HEY - guess what?

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As of tonight's vote it is now LEGAL to smoke pot in my state of Oregon.

Yep - state #3 to legalize pot.

As Claude would say - I'll be back in 5 minutes!
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  • Oh,...Oh!
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    • And it's really cloudy tonight. I wonder what that's all about?
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    Pot makes me wanna do stuff.
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    • Pot makes me want to do things...but not stuff.
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  • Yeah, right. We'll see you next week. Maybe.
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    Congrats ... as of Oct 6, it's now legal for same sex marriages in my state and 31 other states. Doesn't impact me directly, but I'm happy for those that it does.

    Pot will catch up eventually. Again, doesn't impact me either way, but glad for those that it does.
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    • Oh but it does. Arrests for victimless crimes keep the corporate prison system in money - and slaves. I worked for a company that had slave labor from a prison. Those guys never hurt anyone else, but they were forced to work 15 hour days for something like 50 cents an hour to their own pockets and the rest to the prison system. If they said no - it was isolated confinement and longer sentencing.

      Drug cartels also effect everyone - and they undermine this country's security.

      So smoker or non-smoker, keeping pot illegal effects everyone.

      Despite what everyone here thinks - I am not an every day smoker. Thom can tell you firsthand how I react to one too many tokes. I go months without ever smoking just because I don't feel like it.

      You don't need to be a 24/7 smoker to appreciate what freedom looks like.
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  • I'm surprised it's not legal in more places. I would have guessed government would be licking their chops on taxing it.
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    • It is RIDICULOUS, they EVEN had a BALLOT, never mind a measure, but a BALLOT in Washington DC. GIVE ME A BREAK! ******IT IS NOT A STATE******! It's not even a city. And THAT WAS INTENTIONAL!

      And how could a DISTRICT have rules different from the ones they pass for everyone else?

      You know, if we had an HONEST government, we could save BILLIONS just on the DC garbage!

      Steve
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  • Is it restricted to - basically - where you live?
    In Colorado, landlords and homeowners associations can say no.
    Not in public places.
    I could allow it at my hotel. Hotels can allow smoking in up to 20% of their rooms.
    Some hotels are catering to the marijuana crowd.

    Dan
  • Some folks in Washington state regret voting it in. I hear weed costs twice as much (with all the state added taxes) as it used to cost when it wasn't legal. Not only that, there's not nearly enough legal weed to meet the demand, even with the high price. It's still available on the black market but now the penalties for growing and distribution are really stiff. No, no no! Mustn't be competing with the state.
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  • Pot still NOT LEGAL federally wise !!

    You get a Federal Marshall walking down your sidewalk in Eugene and he smells Pot coming up out your bedroom window by Law he has every right to handcuff you and take you to jail

    What a crazy World we live in.
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    • It's weird. I have a friend that actually grows medical marijuana. He was visited by some tri-jurisdictional group of cops consisting of the FBI, state police and county sheriff. Each law enforcement agency, including the feds had growing guidelines for medical weed.

      The state police and the county created their rules around what the feds published years ago. But that's weird because according to them, no one has the right to grow, smoke or eat pot.

      When they visited my friend (a tenant of his ratted him out because he insisted the guy pay his rent) they told him that his growing operation was within the guidelines set by the federal authorities. It's nuts...
    • Public Service Announcement:

      Everyone, please at least make the attempt to purchase
      your drugs grown in the US, especially Mom & Pop shops.
      Make the attempt to avoid sending your money to cartels
      that dismember women and children in a lame attempt
      to imitate the Taliban/ISIS, etc.

      Otherwise, enjoy!


      The current Administration seems to have made it clear that
      they will not be pushing back at this point in time. I haven't
      heard of any cases in which they have gone back on that yet?
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    • I hope I do not see any Federal Marshalls in my back yard! Fortunatley I usually just see deer, coyotes and rabbits.
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  • I have a very heightened sense of pizza without any help.

    It's been way more than five minutes, should we send out a search party?

    As far as I know here in Colorado, the Feds don't do much about recreational use
    or private medical use.

    I don't have enough knowledge/information about why the medical marijuana would
    have Federal guidelines.

    I do know a female who was in the retail/medical pot business until recently. She did
    not like it because she felt like technically a criminal in the eyes of the Feds and
    customers thought nothing of that. So, she worked for minimum wage and not enough
    tips. I guess their set up encouraged tipping because it is weird legal ground.

    She also did not like the store owners. Kind of a rough element. She felt they probably had
    criminal backgrounds - which they're not supposed to have to run a legit center.

    Also, some back door dealings went on. And, it was an all cash business because very
    few - if any banks - allow pot businesses to do banking because of the Federal laws
    concerning marijuana. One large Colorado bank even closed out pot store owners
    personal bank accounts because they feared it might be pot money.

    Finally, she did not feel comfortable with all the cash laying around and no security at the stores
    she worked in

    I don't use or buy the stuff, so I have no idea how street prices have been impacted by legality.
    I'm pretty sure the pricing is different for medical v recreational marijuana.

    There is a growing - te he - grow your own medical marijuana faction. One of the things they stress is
    purity. Apparently, because of the humidity in large grow rooms, there is a problem with some kind
    of tiny spider or insect that can get ingested and make people sick. A bronchitis kind of thing, I guess.

    Dan

    PS - I still get a kick out of this one customer interaction. He was a 70ish, very conservative looking Texan.
    His truck said Justice of the Peace on the side. In the morning, at check out, he surprised me by asking if I wanted to buy his cookie. He wanted $20 for it. It was about 5" diameter and had about 5 doses in it. He went on
    to tell me that because it was legal, he wanted to try it for the first time and all it did was make him dizzy.


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  • Feds tried to enforce federal law over and above states. They were basically kicked to the curb in WA - told they don't take precedence over state's rights.

    As far as price - I've not heard anyone complaining at all out here. WA has picked up some taxes for a few things they've needed taxes for and don't have to rely on fed money now, which gives them even more independence.

    Also - once pot is legalized, hemp can be grown - and think of the industries and ecological benefit we'll get from hemp!
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  • I'm not sure how I feel about it being legal in some states, but if it's going to be legal, they need to allow people to grow their own pot, not a select few businesses capitalizing on everyone's weed habit. Makes you wonder why it became legal in the first place.

  • Wow. Can it be sold legally or just grown for personal use? If I came to visit where would I get it?

    Andrew
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    • I imagine licensed growers will be allowed to sell it to anyone, about like WA. Not sure what CO does.

      Where would you get it? I don't know. I haven't bought any in many years. It is "gifted" to me by relatives who grow some, and a friend who is a legal grower makes sure I have a supply at our meet ups every year. It takes me a year to go through an ounce, and that's even sharing the pipe. I don't smoke frequently. The most I've used in years was to make a tincture for Ricky for rubbing on him when he was hurting.
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  • For those in those states what are the laws around online sales?
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    • Pretty sure you can't mail it or the paraphernalia. Age limits and Federal law.
      Companies like FedEx and UPS probably have policies against.
      Of course you can't legally take any out of State.
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  • maybe 10 minutes?
    lol, and hopefully Canada won't be too far behind that is if we can get rid of Herr Harper
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  • Tommy Chong of, Cheech and Chong. went to jail for selling bongs. Sort of looks like he took the fall for his son. Selling paraphernalia is illegal. Feds did it to curb the illegal drug trade. Tommy Chong's cellmate was Jordan Belfort - the Wolf of Wall Street.

    Tommy Chong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Jordan Belfort Went To Jail With Chong - Business Insider
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    • Four little words would of prevented that "For tobacco use only".
      Here in NY selling "drug paraphernalia" is illegal. Yet at the tobacco store where I buy my tobacco they sell bongs, hookahs, water pipes, vaporizers, glass pipes, rolling papers, etc. I bought a grinder online that was listed for tobacco or legal herb use. It's all in how they are promoted. As long as there is no mention of any of that being used for cannabis it's all legal. Same goes for "grow stores" that sell fertilizers, lights, etc. You can talk about growing all day in a store, but if you mention or even imply it's for cannabis you'll get your ass booted out the door and get a strong lecture about the store not selling anything for cannabis cultivation.
  • Rondo - found your answer.

    Pot, where it is legal sells for between $12 and $22 a gram. In CO it's only around $12 per gram which is approximately $340 an ounce - nearly half of what it is in WA.

    Here's a link that has all the info - including a map of where it's illegal (still 21 states), decriminalized, medical, and just legal (4 states now and DC, someone above was correct - it's legal in Alaska, I believe that's since yesterday, too, but not sure). Other info you can get at the link is how much it costs and where you can get it, etc.

    State of the Leaf - Leafly
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  • Thanks HeySal. That's a cool website.

    Andrew
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  • I don't know how it's going in the recreational states, but I've never heard of the feds targeting or picking up individuals who are legal medical users in California. Probably way too politically unpopular. Every once in a blue they come in and try to shut down an individual dispensary or farm for one reason or another but they've largely been hands-off medical for years now.
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