And Following On The Heels Of Ebola Is . . . .

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Lets hope this has been detected early enough as it can spread faster than Claude's belly when he gets undressed.

Madagascar plague outbreak kills 40, says World Health Organization

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  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    Originally Posted by positivenegative View Post

    Lets hope this has been detected early enough as it can spread faster than Claude's belly when he gets undressed.

    Madagascar plague outbreak kills 40, says World Health Organization

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    And what does the WHO know about it anyway? Perhaps they think we Wont Get Fooled Again.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

      And what does the WHO know about it anyway? Perhaps they think we Wont Get Fooled Again.
      What exactly do you mean? This may not spread as fast as it did last time, and may be more treatable now, but it is STILL a NASTY disease to have, etc... Ironically, on "monster inside me"(A REAL docudrama of real pests that were hard to discover, etc...) YESTERDAY, IIRC, the victims were a couple. The lymph glands were maybe 5 times the size of normal highly infected lymph glands. That is THE key symptom of bubonic plague, and where it gets its name.

      Anyway, it was NASTY! Once they found out what it was, the wife lucked out. The special antibiotic they used worked quickly, and it looked like she had a full recovery. Well, the husband didn't do so well. They had to put him in a coma, because he got gangrene, and was dying. Often any of that is a death sentence! The wife had a decision to make. Keep the legs, and maybe have an 80% chance of any success being destroyed by his death, or amputate his legs. She chose to amputate his legs. LUCKILY, he magaed to heal up, and LUCKILY he managed to wake up. They are OK now, but the husband has prostetic legs. And they are musing that one little flea could have been the cause.

      LUCKILY, today, rats aren't as common, fleas aren't as common, antibiotics usually work, and any decent doctor SHOULD be able to spot it. Outside of that, this stuff is little better than ebola.

      Steve.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    There's all sorts of viruses going around Africa right now. Ebola is spreading there. It's in about 6 countries there now. Mali has its first death and Sierra Lione is still getting hammered. In Sudan they have what they are calling "bleeding fever" and I'm not sure how much different that is from Ebola or Marburg. A couple of countries in that region recently reported Marburg. They have anthrax spreading in cows in Maka-Mombolo and another cow virus in S. Zimbabwe. There's African Swine flu in Kafu and African Swine fever is all over the Russian border. What bothers me is that I'm seeing ebola in Nigeria again - the WHO now says 5,000 dead there, yet they thought or were at least reported to have stopped it. I'm not sure whether those figures are totals and it just flaired back up or whether the reports that it was stemed there were false.

    ChikV spread all over Central America and is now in N and S America. From the progression, it looks like Chik was brought over the border from MX. It seems to have traveled S. from Panama.

    We've got swine flu in one eastern state and viral meningitis as well.

    BTW - the US usually has a few plague victims every year, too.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    I don't know about bleeding fever, but ebola gives you a fever, and a key symptom that defines it as ebola symptom wise is BLEEDING! You bleed all over internally, but the most obvious external place is the eyes. If I were to call something bleeding fever, ebola would be it.

    Wikipedia brought up the term "Viral hemorrhagic fever" which obviously means a virus that presents a fever and causes bleeding. It said ebola is a worst case example. But it is more a class than a disease, and includes even the hantavirus. The hantavirus is probably relatively common in the US, and not NEARLY as bad as ebola.

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Steve - I'm pretty sure the bleeding fevers and hemorrhagic fever they are getting there are strains of virus closely related to ebola and marburg. You're right that they all include bleed out.

    We've had rodents with hantavirus just recently in the US, too. I'm not sure if any humans caught it or not. I think it was in Colorado but could be mistaken - it was a state out there in that direction for sure, though.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

      And what does the WHO know about it anyway? Perhaps they think we Wont Get Fooled Again.
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      What exactly do you mean?
      Looks like someone got fooled again, and if you're talking 'bout my generation, we're not going to take it.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        Looks like someone got fooled again, and if you're talking 'bout my generation, we're not going to take it.

        Oh just get up and get down with the sickness. This is no social crisis - he's just caught in a trip he can't grip - never thought he'd be the one that slipped.
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        • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          This is no social crisis
          Just another tricky day for you...

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      • Profile picture of the author Midnight Oil
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        Looks like someone got fooled again, and if you're talking 'bout my generation, we're not going to take it.
        Right behind you, I see the millions. They're all wasted.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Steve - I'm pretty sure the bleeding fevers and hemorrhagic fever they are getting there are strains of virus closely related to ebola and marburg. You're right that they all include bleed out.
      Yeah, and the level and types of bleeding are unusual. This is why I likened it to scurvy, but scurvy is slower and takes another path. ALSO, scurvy isn't so much a sickness, caused by some pathogen per se, so far as anyone knows.

      We've had rodents with hantavirus just recently in the US, too. I'm not sure if any humans caught it or not. I think it was in Colorado but could be mistaken - it was a state out there in that direction for sure, though.
      YEP, like I said we have it in the US. LUCKILY, it isn't as contagious, or as bad.

      Steve
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