World's earliest engraving found in Indonesia

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The simple zigzag pattern, found on a fossilised shell from the Indonesian island of Java, has been dated to at least 430,000 years.

The find, reported in the journal Nature on Thursday, predates by some 300,000 years other markings made by modern humans or Neanderthals, previously thought the oldest.

The age and location of the shell suggests the pattern was carved by an even earlier human ancestor known as Homo erectus.

“It rewrites human history,” said Dr Stephen Munro, the Australian National University paleoanthropologist who made the find.

It suggests Homo erectus had considerable manual dexterity and possibly greater cognitive abilities, and raises the prospect that they might have been more “human” than previously thought. “That’s something people will argue about,” Munro said.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Very interesting. Not fully surprising to me, though. After all, the first beads we have are 135,000 years old. Now if we were to find that those scratchings were an attempt at a written language, then I'd be not only surprised, but a tad overwhelmed.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Reminds me of how bears scratch trees to mark their territories.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I'm inclined to think the scratches were from some sort of work on shaping tools.
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    • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I'm inclined to think the scratches were from some sort of work on shaping tools.
      I'm sure tools, too, for the humans. Just the principles of primitive forms of communication.


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    Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

    (And before Kurt or Riffle get in - Homo Erectus does not refer to Claude in a state of arousal )
    I was thinking of Professor Carpet when I read this only I read
    .... Homo Erectus Dysfunctus
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    Sometimes I think the Prof has a few more evolutionary steps to go before he gets to the homo erectus stage.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      Sometimes I think the Prof has a few more evolutionary steps to go before he gets to the homo erectus stage.
      Where do you think he fits on the evolutionary scale?


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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        Where do you think he fits on the evolutionary scale?


        That one on the left explains why our ancestors learned to walk upright. Who would want to move around with their head at the same level as the butt of Homo Claudicus.

        As for your question, I think Homo Professicus is on the far left (out of shot).
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        Where do you think he fits on the evolutionary scale?


        Are those short forearms...or...huge.....I don't know....what's the word I'm looking for?

        I notice in Kurt's illustrations...he always pictures evolved men as highly...um....well......I can't think of the word....

        Are those fists?
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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          Are those short forearms...or...huge.....I don't know....what's the word I'm looking for?

          I notice in Kurt's illustrations...he always pictures evolved men as highly...um....well......I can't think of the word....

          Are those fists?
          There's a couple of mistakes in your post, as usual. First, the images aren't "mine". I just reposted them from Wikipedia.

          Second, did you notice the hominid that's second from the left in the evolution time line doesn't have a "fist" at all and is a lot chubbier than the others?
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          • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            There's a couple of mistakes in your post, as usual. First, the images aren't "mine". I just reposted them from Wikipedia.

            Second, did you notice the hominid that's second from the left in the evolution time line doesn't have a "fist" at all and is a lot chubbier than the others?

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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I don't want to say Claude is old...but here's a copy of his birth certificate.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

    (And before Kurt or Riffle get in - Homo Erectus does not refer to Claude in a state of arousal )

    Neither Kurt nor I would have made the joke you were anticipating. Every good joke contains an element of truth. There's no truth in that joke.
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