Two More Major Movie Chains Drop The Movie "The Interview"

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Major chains drop Sony's 'The Interview' - Dec. 17, 2014

I can only shake my head. This sets up a bad precedent. What do y'all think?

RoD
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  • Yes, this will make it tempting for trolls and pranksters everywhere (forget hardcore hackers and terrorists) to try to create similar outcomes.

    On the other hand, this will probably end up making more people want to see The Interview and may ultimately improve its long term profits. It's transforming what would otherwise be just another trivial Hollywood comedy into some kind of memorable, socially significant event. I can even imagine some people now feeling like they are being brave and patriotic by seeing it!
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      Lol.

      If this becomes a memorable socially significant event, it just shows how non-sensical and decadent Western culture has become.

    • I agree with your statement.
      I already know some people who at first didn't have interest in watching it and now do.
  • What a world.
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    But what if the movie was about assassinating obama

    Clearly, the US is blaming the Democratic People's Republic of Korea for its internal problems.
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    • It would be in bad taste, just like Death of a President was. Other than that, meh . . .
  • We don't negotiate with terrorists. We just roll over and beg them to use lube.
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  • As self-professed business owners, I am surprised at the lack of empathy towards the businesses that were affected by this.

    Sony was facing the prospect of much bigger, and presumably much more damaging releases of their hacked data.

    Theatre owners were facing the threat of violence against their customers and in their establishments.

    By making this incredibly tough decision, Sony gets to begin to rebuild after this catastrophe, and lives to fight another day.

    How would YOU react if all of your secrets were stolen and published, humiliating you and threatening your ability to do business?
  • I don't see this as anything but a publicity stunt. I know I didn't have one drop in the movie until I heard this stuff.

    A threatened cyber attack keeps people out of a theater? What is being said? Did Kimmy say that he has people over here that are gonna bomb the theatres or mass shoot the customers? If that is the case, then there are people here that our highly paid FBI and CIA should be kicking right back across the ocean if not jailing, ya think? Threatening the US is not gonna go over well with Kimmy's mommy country, either maybe?

    Sorry - there's nothing about this "report" that even starts to sound logical to me.
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      It became a bit more than a cyber attack...the hackers threatened a physical attack on theaters that showed the movie.

      Sony hackers threaten moviegoers with terrorist acts - Dec. 16, 2014

      The hacker group the "Guardians of Peace" is supposedly behind the hack and the threats. After that threat was made the major movie theater chains started dropping like flies. No credible evidence of a security threat exists.

      Sony has already suffered significant damage due to the hack.

      The feds say they have found linkage and are are naming North Korea as the hacking instigator.

      http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/no...icials-n270451

      Cheers

      -don
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  • I get the highly emotional response, and I share it.

    But the correct business response is to not knowingly walk into a situation with an elevated chance of another theatre massacre. They have threatened blood.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/17/bu...interview.html

    Would they dare? Who knows. There is no reason to believe they are not crazed enough to do it though.
  • It's actually against the law to even HAVE it, let alone show it:

    News Default Page - FreeRealTime.com

    So HOW could a Movie chain ****CLAIM**** to not be showing a movie that they aren't allowed to have. SONY cancelled it!

    They introduced a set of thunderbird type series some time ago, and one of the marrienettes Was KIM JUNG IL!!!!! HERE is one of his scenes from the movie!

    Team America: World Police (6/10) Movie CLIP - I'm So Ronery (2004) HD - YouTube
    It is said that he was upset about THAT! They LOVE killing communication channels, so this is NOTHING new! HECK, the terrorists did the SAME with a CARTOONIST in DENMARK!!!!!

    BTW I say THUNDERBIRDS because this hearkens back to an old show in the 1960s!

    Thunderbirds TV Show Intro - YouTube
    Steve
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      Good grief, Steve! The Interview was set to show in theaters across the nation on Christmas Day! The New York premiere set for tomorrow has been cancelled, the regular showings across the nation have been cancelled, and Sony allowed the scheduled theaters to pull out of the screenings! According to Sony they have no future plans to release the movie in any form.

      After several theater chains pulled out Sony has cancelled the entire theatrical release.

      FTR --> The Interview has not yet been turned loose on pirate sites.

      Cheers

      -don
  • Then again, this could also be a publicity stunt to generate interest in the movie or even a false flag to generate interest in our next military action.
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      Conspiracy theory much? Let me get this straight --> You think it's possible that Sony is trying to seriously damage themselves (or the U.S. Gov is doing this to them) for publicity? Or they are trying to seriously damage themselves (or the U.S. Gov is doing this to them) to drum up a war with North Korea?

      I think I've heard it all now...

      http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/18/wo...y-hacking.html

      Let us not forget that Sony Corporation (founded by Masaru Ibuka & Akio Morita) is a Japanese multinational conglomerate corporation headquartered in Kōnan Minato, Tokyo, Japan.

      Cheers

      -don
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    We shall see how long the stand down holds...

    https://variety.com/2014/film/news/s...ew-1201382167/

    Cheers

    -don
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  • As far as I'm concerned - if we were threatened, we should feel obligated to run it. They've warned us they will shed blood -- and I would think we should be able to handle security of any theater between bomb squades, secret service, citizens with concealed carry - and some military.

    When someone threatens you like this - the worst thing you can do is cower. If we take a stand now - it will be the end of the threats. If we back down - we're going to get threatened every time we breathe crooked. If we can't keep an attack out of a few theaters to run this show - we're pretty screwed, because there's a lot of different factions right now that feel because of our PC stupidity they can tell us exactly what and what not to do.

    As far as I'm concerned - they just forced our hand to show it.
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      How big of a commercial success do you actually think it would be with the threat of a terrorist attack and it is simply not feasible to guard every single theater for every single showing that runs it. Who would actually want to go spend money in a heavily guarded theater, knowing that there was a terrorist attack directed towards it?

      Not me. Not a lot of people. Entertainment is supposed to be fun. Not life threatening. If one person died, Sony's head would be on the chopping block.
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  • I suspect there is much that hasn't been publicly released, that could be very damaging to Sony and could be a contributing factor to their recent decisions.

    (On another note, it is funny that that clownish little turd who heads North Korea imagines that he could look even worse and more ridiculous than he already does. I personally believe that his days are numbered. He's angered China and that can't end nicely. Neither China nor South Korea want a total regime collapse, I don't think. They would naturally favor a regime modification..perhaps as a result of an illness that seems to be caused by the Dear Leader's bad habits).
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  • I love Rogen and company, and their brand of comedy might be offensive to some, but it only gets funnier as soon as people overreact to it. The hype is indeed working. I guess the world has to adapt to the fact that is no longer black-and-white political farce but a psychosocial propaganda-- people's opinions via social media and the interwebs... *yawn*
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  • Did I say I thought it was a publicity stunt? Ya know something -- apparently other people decided that Kim is not the dictator of the US, either.

    There's this funny thing about terror. Once you bend to it - you are always bending to it. Terrorist love cowardism.

    Kim Jong Un Death Scene (The Interview) - YouTube
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      Well, you have to actually give a shit about something before you're willing to die for it and I for one, never intended to see the movie to begin with and wouldn't now if I could. It's a movie. ho hum. Sony needs to come up with better ideas and stop gossiping about all the actors and actresses.

      And by the looks of the image on the opening screen of the video you posted, they didn't even get Kim right. Kim is a big fat doughboy with a ridiculous haircut. The guy in that pic didn't closely resemble the grotesque ahole that Kim is. Geeesh. You think they could have found someone to do it who was a lot fatter and uglier.
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  • OK, now there's at least two people that movies about them will make all hell break loose...

    Kim, the present day leader of North Korea and the prophet Muhammad.

    Is there anyone else who could generate this type of response from their followers?
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    • TL; Nobody has attempted to make a movie about me. Hollywood is so afraid of me, that they won't even whisper my name.

      They only call me by the name...The Professor.


      Suzanne said that he was fatter and uglier. So I fixed your post for you.
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  • I have absolutely no idea what anybody is talking about. What is the movie about and why has the release been canceled?
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      Since you're completely in the dark perhaps you should just google sony and the movie name in google news. It's been all over the news for a couple of weeks or so.
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  • I don't know much about the story as I haven't watched the news that much lately, but I do think that pulling it definitely sends out the wrong message.

    Some of the responses here do make me chuckle though. Talk about getting your knickers in a twist.
  • While you're at it, Suzanne, would you bring us up to speed on the Cuba situation? I'll require the full backstory, if you don't mind.

    You're a peach.
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  • At first I was peeved that the movie was pulled. How dare somebody try to bully Us like this?! Then I thought about it...

    It wasn't the American government that bowed in deference.

    It wasn't the American people that kowtowed.

    Hell, it wasn't even an American company.

    My only concern is how this will affect gutsy filmmakers. If cyber terrorists can shut down a stupid, pointless movie such as The Interview, what will happen to the next Schindler's List?
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      Right you are and that caliber of movie would have made all the difference in my response. An important movie vs a not so important movie.
  • Here's the answer to my question.

    The movie's about getting an interview with the leader of North Korea and a plot to kill him. North Korean terrorists hacked Sony and threatened to blow up movie theaters if the movie was released. Because of this, Sony pulled the movie.

    Wow, even shorter than I thought.
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    • It is amazing what one can accomplish with just a smidgen of internal effort...
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  • Texas Theater to Show 'Team America' In Place of 'The Interview' - The Hollywood Reporter

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  • This article in the LA Weekly gives a good overview of the movie and why it's supposedly so scary to North Korea. It seems inevitable that this incident will cause 10x as many people to see The Interview, even if not right away. For me, it's the kind of movie I'd watch once it hits cable or Netflix.

    Seth Rogen
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    Quite a few people are pointing the finger at Bureau 121 --> and many are saying that North Korea may have just won it's first cyber battle against the U.S.

    Info on Bureau 121...

    North Korea deep into cyber warfare, defector says - CNN.com

    Sony Hack: Secrets Of Unit 121, North Korea's Elite Hackers Who Live Like Stars In Luxury Hotel

    The North Korean genius state-sponsored hackers believed to be behind the Sony take-down | Daily Mail Online

    Gingrich on the cyberwar...

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/18/opinio...cyberwar-sony/

    Cheers

    -don
  • Posters for the movie are already collector's items.

    Movie Posters For 'The Interview' Are Going For $550
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    @Alexa

    The top five North American theater chains decided not to show the film so Sony had little choice. In-fact it has been said that some of those theater chains were worried that people may stay away from the other movies they were showing if they ran The Interview due to those "911" threats.

    I agree though, many of the reviews so far have not been that great, and this event may empower other terrorists to try similar.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ircuits-758843

    Cheers

    -don
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    • We've had movies in poor taste since movies began. What we have here is cyber crime - an attack on an American industry by hackers thought to be acting at the direction of a foreign nation.

      SONY could have - and perhaps should have - immediately released the movie on DVD.
  • 12 innocent people were randomly killed here.

    Cinemark acquired the Century chain 2006, but the Aurora
    theater still carries the Century name. I think the cost to the
    theater chain over this one incident by one, lone crazy man is still
    unknown. I believe there are still active civil suits filed by
    surviving family members against the theater chain....

    Can you imagine the legal and financial impacts, if something bad
    happened, after they proceeded to show this stupid movie while knowing there
    were state backed threats?

    Can you imagine the personal impact, if something bad did happen,
    and you were a theater or Sony exec who decided to go ahead after hearing
    the information that the FBI likely provided?

    2012 Aurora shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Cinemark Theatres - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Century Theatres - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    We laypeople don't know North Korea's capabilities - nuclear or not.
    Would we want find out over a stupid movie?

    We have no border security.

    As a nation, we do need to get feared and respected again.
    In an intelligent way.

    Dan

    PS - I pretty much agree with Newt in this one. Our government did not respond swiftly and strongly enough.
    Corporations are not supposed to, or able to, defend themselves against nation states.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/18/opinio...Most+Recent%29
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    • Sorry. You can't be both.

      Wait until the ink is dry on the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP). Nation states will then fear corporations, and with good reason.

      Air, water, land, people and whole ecosystems will be sacrificed to allow corporations the "right" to make money.

      If you want something to be scared of, the TPP is the mother of all of them.
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    • This ought to accomplish what you want...


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  • So give up our freedoms because our politicians are allowing any crap over the border than wants to slither in here. Good idea.

    As you pointed out - there is no safety guarantee anywhere you go. The one shooting was just a random case of a drugged out walking nut farm. It doesn't even compare to a terror threat.

    We've already seen what bending to terror and PC crap has done. We've lost some of our most basic rights because so many were ready to cower after 9/11. "Ho -I don't do anything wrong, so let them collect every fact about me and every conversation I have." People who are scared don't seem to understand the social profiling that can be done via this information farming. They don't seem to be able to use enough logical thinking to understand that once your rights are gone, anything can instantaneously be made illegal and they could end up prosecuted and punished for something that seemed very moot and was very legal because they will be considered a "threat" under the new proclamations.

    Many in here just condoned censorship because they think it's a good idea to bend to terrorism. What will be the next attack on us? Now that Kimmy sees he has power over the gutless, he's going to be back. That's what terrorists do. That's how it works.

    I have a better analogy for you than a lone nut in a theater and a terrorist threat.
    When a rapist approaches a woman - if she shows fear instead of standing up and showing she will fight back if attacked - she is around 97% more likely to be raped, and possibly even killed. (why 97% you ask? Because 3% are actually looking for a struggle - only 3%).

    It's the same for bullying. Either stand up for yourself, or ignore them, and almost always they will go away. If you bend in fear, you will be under attack any time you are in proximity of the bully unless someone else stops them. Now that Kimmy has succeeded in getting the movie pulled - do you think his little inflated ego is going to stop making proclamations about what he's going to attack other countries over? Now that everyone cowered to his threats (for safety, you understand) we're going to have to count on big momma China to Shut him up for us. Great huh?

    Letting a terrorist win in not one way or in any stretch of imagination has ever or will ever make anyone safe.
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    • Terra won't be pleased!

      Sounds like it is time to clean your hard disk again? Photoshop software doesn't like it when the hard disk is a mess!

      Or if you go to the Pen tool, and it doesn't show the nib, then it is time to clean up, or take your chances and hope that it behaves!

    • Hey HeySal,

      I assume you're addressing my post, and we are not all that far off on standing up against
      this crap. NK appears to have won this cyber attack, but not the war.

      What I'm saying is:

      Our borders should have been as secure as possible long ago

      Our military needs to be stronger against all the kinds of threats we have today; cyber, electromagnetic pulse, financial and banking systems, nukes in the hands of terrorists or stable or unstable governments, terrorism, traditional threats...

      Our intelligence community needs to be stronger

      Sony and all allied governments should have taken swift action the day of the cyber attack
      so it maybe did not have to become a personal and business and liability decision for the theater chains.

      The Aurora Theater shooting was a terrible emotional and financial tragedy by a lone, untrained individual.
      We can't imagine what a trained, state supported soldier could do. We do not know what the actual threat was ( I just overheard someone who works for the sheriff's department say it was a 911 level attack
      on an island or coastal city.)

      We just have to fight intelligently, strategically, militarily and diplomatically. Maybe not today, but tomorrow with a better plan and pieces in place. I don't think Kim is strongly supported (some out of fear and ignorance, and some out of plain greed) and toppling that government is IMO the more likely and smart thing to happen.

      On a case by case basis, sometimes it's best for the woman to fight the rapist and win and bring him to justice that day. Sometimes it's best for her to run to save her life and identify him and bring him to justice in a week.


      Dan
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  • And YEAH, the whole idea of terrorism is:

    1. Get what you want.
    2. Have the ones you don't like cower at the POSSIBILITY.
    3. Have them destroy themselves and limit others.

    It IS an old concept. It is also COMMON for communists and other dictators. That IS one reason to limit communication. You don't know who your friends are, how far the control extends, and feel alone.

    Steve
  • It seems that "Team America" which featured Kim Jong Il has been pulled as well.

    At one theater, 'Team America' replaces 'The Interview' - CNN.com
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  • We know that North Korea is behind the hacking and threats because an anonymous government spokesperson said so.
  • Where's Dennis Rodman when you need him?
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    • OTO:
      Congratulations, now you're the leader of a country, but this is NOT COMPLETE!!!

      If you want to be taken seriously and GAIN RESPECT, hang out with Dennis Rodman while you can...before he is gone.

      The legendary basketball player and SHOWMAN will show YOU how to be seen, make waves, grab press time. He'll even sing a song for you in front of the masses.

      HERE'S YOUR CHANCE

      INVITE HIM NOW or the CLOCK will RUN OUT!.
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    Senator Chris Dodd, the Chairman of the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), says the amount of material stolen in the Sony hack was many times greater than the volume of all the printed material at the U.S. Library of Congress. Talk about a lot of stolen material! Good grief...

    FWIW --> Back in June, North Korea said this film was an act of war and that they would retaliate.

    Cheers

    -don
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    • From what I understand, the US LOC includes nearly every picture made for DECADES from MANY countries, including Japan, along with a lot of software, patents, trademarks, books, etc... After all, THAT IS where the actual copyrighted work recognized by the USPTO, and the copyright office is supposed to be stored?

      What is the Library of Congress?
      The Library serves as the research arm of Congress and is recognized as the national library of the United States. Its collections comprise the world's most comprehensive record of human creativity and knowledge. Open to those age 16 and older without charge or special permission, it is the world's largest library and a great resource to scholars and researchers.

      How does the Library acquire its holdings?
      Through exchange with libraries in this country and abroad, gifts, materials received from local, state and federal agencies as well as foreign governments, purchase, and copyright deposits. Materials are added to the collections of the Library at a rate of 12,000 items per working day. Selection officers review materials and decide which should be kept and added to the permanent collections. Copyright deposits make up the core of the collections, particularly those in the map, music, motion picture, and prints and photographs divisions.

      General Information | Library of Congress

      HOW was that much stuff stolen without nobody noticing? BTW If Dodd said the sky were blue, I would be running to the window to see what color it was! The US would likely be a better country if he had never been born.

      Steve
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  • Banned
    George Clooney says Sony stood alone...

    Clooney...


    Clooney was circulating a petition for those in power to stand with Sony. Below is the letter:

    Unfortunately for Sony and U.S principles, nobody would sign... You can read the full Clooney interview with Deadline here:

    https://deadline.com/2014/12/george-...on-1201329988/

    In related news, the hacker group says they will stand down if the movie is never released in any form. The U.S. has now confirmed North Korea was behind the attack and President Obama has vowed to respond to the attack, proportionally.

    Cheers

    -don
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    • On Christmas, every major movie studio, and every theater, should join in showing The Interview. For free. Everyone should go to show North Korea it cannot dictate our First Amendment rights.

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      Well Clooney was one of the actors that Sony apparently loves, unlike all the actors and actresses and Amy Pascal and Aaron Sorkin, Sony execs ridiculed in emails that were hacked and released....Angelina Jolie, Leonardo DiCaprio, Michael Fassbender, Kevin Hart, Willow and Jaden Smith, Cameron Crowe, Alex Trebek,etc. "An incendiary email exchange between Amy Pascal and Scott Rudin, joking about President Barack Obama's race, was posted on Dec. 10. In the messages."

      Apparently, except for conjuring up stupid ideas for movies, Sony execs have little else to do but gossip about actors and directors and ridicule them via email.

      Sometimes idiocy is punished. But if I were Sony, I'd release that movie on DVD and mail it to everyone in the US. But Sony won't do that. They've already been hacked and embarrassed to death by the stupidity of their emails about actors, actresses and directors.
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    ...and President Obama should kick things off with a White House screening.

    Unfortunately, our president is scolding Sony for "pulling" the movie. Obviously he did not get the memo that the top 5 North American and many other theater chains dropped the movie. They flat out refused to show it. Sony planned to release the movie in the U.S. on Dec. 25th and it is the theaters that pulled the plug, not Sony. Sony DOES NOT own the distribution pipes.

    But here is Mr. Uninformed on this issue...

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...-gop/20635449/

    The Sony Pictures CEO has done a in-depth interview with CNN that is already in the can which will be airing soon. The Sony CEO said that film may be released later, and the fact remains that nobody would show the movie when it was released on the 25th.

    Sony has talked to the White House and has been working with government officials for weeks. The Sony CEO says he has every desire to have the American public see the movie.

    It sounds like negotiations are ongoing to stream this movie or offer it on VOD. Supposedly they have even discussed releasing the movie on YouTube.

    According to the Sony Pictures CEO...no major VOD distributors or ECOM sites have stepped up to deliver the movie for them. The Sony CEO says he would make the movie again...

    So as it stands now, according to Sony --> Netflix, On Demand and/or another major VOD distributor(s) need to step up. According to some sources, these entities are afraid of getting hacked if they run the movie.

    Cheers

    -don
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    • OK, I made a mistake there, but legally Sony *******DOES******* own the rights and supplies the content. So if they say DON'T SHOW, they have that right and power. YEAH, they should compensate theaters, but that is about as far as it goes.

      I am ALL FOR having it shown everywhere, to FORMALLY SPITE any terrorists, but understand why all did it.



      So THIS film may end up like another "Master George"(AKA 'Innocence Of Muslims' )! A straight to youtube silly concept movie that may, or may not, have something to do with terrorism from a foreign "society".

      Steve
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    Sony CEO Responds To Obama Comments: “We Have Not Caved…We Have Not Backed Down” - YouTube
    In a later snippet he says NO digital delivery platforms (VOD or Streaming) have stepped up to deliver the film (probably for fear of getting hacked). Fareed says even Walmart and other DVD distributors are probably scared to distribute the DVDs because of the same concern.

    Cheers

    -don
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    • Of course as things usually go these days. This movie has been kissed (or given a boost) with controversy and mixed with hoopla.

      So, if the movie is ever shown or cloned (bad concept/script and all) - it will probably break earnings records, illegal downloads, most pirated copies or some similar record.
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    Here he is saying no online distributors are yet willing to distribute the movie.

    sdf - CNN.com Video

    This will probably display a playlist so you may need select: --> Will Sony release "The Interview" online <-- to see that particular snippet.
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    I just hear Fareed say that what he took away from his interview with Sony Pics CEO Michael Lynton is that we will be seeing this film relatively soon, not in 6 months, but more like within the next month.

    Cheers

    -don
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    • So did all the rest of us watching CNN today
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      Some may. I still have zero interest in the film.
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  • It's still far from clear who was really behind this and we'll probably never know -as with many big events. I've noticed, though, that terrorist related news seems to occur in groupings. There was the recent attack in Australia, which happened to coincide with the anniversary of Sandy Hook. Then we had the North Korea thing. I can't tell you what it all means, but I'm sure we are only seeing a small piece of the picture and probably a very distorted one at that.

    Evan Goldberg wonders if the Sony hack was an inside job | Georgia Straight, Vancouver's News & Entertainment Weekly

    Then today, this:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6353190.html
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    With 'Interview' pulled back, N. Korea wins?(Opinion) - CNN.com

    Interesting new article

    North Korea denies hacking Sony, U.S. stands by its assertion
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    In related news...

    President Obama said he has not seen the film, and the Sony Pics CEO says he would send him a copy if asked. I'm anxiously awaiting the presidential review...

    Cheers

    -don
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    Mark Stroh, a spokesman for the National Security Council said this:

    Cheers

    -don
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    Tons of films have been made that "his most fervent followers" probably find offensive. This of course has nothing to do with the largest hack in U.S. history. Not only was it a devestating hack, it was directed by a nation state --> and then of course we have the related threats.

    Vampire hunting anyone? Quite a few people liked this comedic flick...

    Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter (Trailer) - YouTube
    Cheers

    -don
  • Banned
    Remember when the literary world and many, many others stood behind Salman Rushdie? It was Valentine's Day 1989 when the Ayatollah Khomeini issued that Fatwa on him.

    Salman Rushdie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Satanic Verses controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Looking back at Salman Rushdie's The Satanic Verses | Books | The Guardian

    The inspiring truth behind Salman Rushdie's exile - Telegraph

    Salman Rushdie Under the Fatwa: The Satanic Verses Controversy - Freedom of Speech (1993) - YouTube
    It's time to stand tall and not cower to terrorism --> freedom of speech and expression must rule the day!

    Cheers

    -don
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      Be my guest. I'll leave it to Sony to stand up tall for their work of art, thank you. I could care less about Sony or N. Korea, but if they think this was an epic that everyone must see, let them stand tall and not cower. Personally, I think it was an ill conceived piece of trash. Freedom of speech ..... Yay! .... only I don't care to stand up for or watch a stupid movie that pokes sticks at a leader I could care less about.
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    I consider it more than just standing up for a single movie or company, but to each their own!

    Cheers

    -don
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    Remember when Kim Jong was reduced to a cockroach? Many of us do...

    Team America - Kim Jong Il is an Alien Cockroach - YouTube


    Cheers!

    -don
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      No, I don't remember ... I guess I just have no fascination whatsoever with watching movies about Kim Jong, but speaking of Death of a President ...

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    A presidential sized molehill, no doubt.

    WATCH: Barack Obama Criticizing Sony For Canceling The Interview Movie | Obama On Sony Hack - YouTube
    So did you love Billy Bob in Bad Santa or what?

    Bad Santa Official Trailer #1 - (2003) HD - YouTube
    And I have your pathetic right here --> without a doubt it's one of my all-time favorite Five.Bolt.Main tracks!

    Five Bolt Main - Pathetic - YouTube
    Cheers

    -don
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    • Ahhhhh. The important thing is, we haven't strayed from the thoughtful, objective, friendly posts that have come to define the OT Forum.

      Please, nobody change.
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      Sad indeed ... and such a promising, well thought out film to be released on Christmas Day. I mean who didn't want to see Kim whatshisface's head explode on Christmas Day. It was right at the top of my list of Christmas must dos ... even taking priority over visiting my children and playing with my grandchildren.

      Nothing says Christmas like the smell of Christmas cookies baking, the pine scent of a Christmas tree in the house, friends and family gathering together, the joy of watching children opening their presents ... and uh ... Kim whatshisface's head exploding.
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  • I have decided to drop "The Review" from my movie chain.
    This consists of my living room and my bedroom.
    That will be all.
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  • Let's face it folks, this was a dumb idea for a comedy movie in the first place. I very much doubt it would've made the studio back any of the money that was invested in it.

    Ironically, now they may be able to recoup some of the money due to the publicity it's received, as people will buy copies of it to see what the fuss was all about. I also doubt very much that anyone who does finally get to see it will consider the experience worthwhile.
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  • The latest is that Sony plans to release the movie on a streaming service. First it was supposed to be Crackle, but that story was apparently premature. So we will soon be able to do our patriotic duty and watch this masterpiece for free!

    Sony Hasn’t Decided Where to Stream “The Interview” — Meaning Not on Crackle (For Now) | Re/code
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  • This is now turning into a comedy in its own right. Get me some popcorn because I have a feeling the best is yet to come. LOL
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    North Korea is having internet issues:

    Reports: North Korea knocked offline

    North Korea Loses (Its Little) Internet Access - Digits - WSJ

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6367654.html

    http://research.dyn.com/2013/03/nort...uffers-outage/



    Cheers

    -don
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    • OH! SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE! Maybe someone is "jiggling the wires"! ALSO, websites are relatively forgiving about flaky connections. Each hit opens, processes, and closes. Transfers, and hacking often aren't. A broken connection may mean starting an operation from scratch.

      And one wonders about anonymous! I MEAN SERIOUSLY? Trying to claim a violation of FOIA? FOIA was created to facilitate transparency in the US government! A lot fo good it has done(sarc), and there are a lot of loopholes, but that is what it was for. Unless the comedy was for some government propaganda that THEY helped facilitate, or maybe funded by the government in some way, you would probably just give someone a good chuckle.

      FOIA.gov - Freedom of Information Act

      Steve
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    Like China or Iran is going to start a World War because of this Seth Rogen comedy. Give me a break! President Obama is not worried about it...have another listen to his comments, and note what he says at about the 1:00 mark.

    WATCH: Barack Obama Criticizing Sony For Canceling The Interview Movie | Obama On Sony Hack - YouTube
    Did you forget what you just said? You posted some junk about about North Korea hitting us with a Nuke. Good grief! If North Korea hit us with a Nuke we would wipe several cities from the face of the earth. If they attempt to hit us with a Nuke and fail, we will bomb them back to the stone age. If we tie a physical attack on a theater showing this movie to North Korea we will launch a bombing campaign against them that will set them back decades.

    Cheers

    -don
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    • I don't know why you dragged Iran into this as IMHO, the other countries in question are China and Russia and I'm sure both have advised us that they will not take kindly to a tactical weapon dropped in NK.

      Of course we reserve the right to do what we think we have to do.

      Even if a theater is attacked by anyone, we are not going to launch a military war against NK.
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  • Just noticed the discussion has been on-going for a long-time, and the title of the movie is The Interview and not The Review
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    • The NKs changed it to "The Review"...They are everywhere!
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  • While blaming North Korea fits nicely into the simplistic narrative so many people are eager to embrace, there are good reasons to be skeptical.

    A Lot of Smart People Think North Korea Didn't Hack Sony
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    • Whenever something like this is the main news story on all the outlets I always look for what is really happening that will actually effect us. This time it was congress passing a 1.1 trillion dollar budget many parts of which will naturally screw us (the tab for one) and parts that are going to benefit the "to big to fail" banks and corporations.
      While it's impossible to miss anything on the news about the movie, you have to pay real close attention to hear anything about the budget, and then it's only that one was passed by both houses and the President will sign it.
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    • But the FBI claims they are responsible.


      Let's hope this doesn't become another "slam dunk" situation.
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  • Nobody covers politics in depth except the political outlets.

    The network nightly news always covers big political news but never goes really in depth and allegedly tries to avoid any political slant in the story - to a fault IMHO.

    All the political outlets on the net and on TV covered the budget deal in detail with straight news and also with their opinion arms.

    If people want to know what's going on in politics there are plenty of ways to find out.

    So was this Sony stuff cooked up to hide the budget deal? I doubt it. Things happen.
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    Back to the business of the Movie --> Note to the hackers, the movie is going to be widely distributed TODAY.

    Sony has cut a deal with Google Play, YouTube and Xbox Video starting today as early as 1PM. The movie will cost $6 to rent and $15 to own. Sony has also made it available through this special page.

    Cheers

    -don
  • Apparently, NK is STILL down! So it looks like SOMEONE there, here, or in between, did SOMETHING to the connection! It could be as simple and non invasive as excluding ports on a firewall, or pulling all the connections out. Due to the government of NK and all, it is probably not overly redundant, and it may be just one little connection. Last I heard, NOBODY is claiming responsibility.

    BTW Apparently someone thought the NK did a DDoS attack on Sony. NOPE! A DDoS attack is a one way and relatively benign attack to disrupt their ability to handle connections, and sony had FAR bigger problems. And the current problem with the NK apparently isn't a DDoS attack either. They probably COULD, if they wanted, have someone hookup a connection using SK resources though. I bet SK is 100% AOK! Of course, if NK did that, it COULD be looked at as a violation of the treaty.

    Steve
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    Here is the last report I caught from Dyn...connectivity has been spotty. The entire country of North Korea has roughly 1,024 IP addresses.



    Someone Disconnects North Korea - Who? - Dyn Research | The New Home Of Renesys

    North Korea only has four official networks that connect to them to the Internet and they are completely reliant on a single internet provider, China Unicom.

    This is the update that was posted:
    Cheers

    -don
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    Salman Rushdie tweets...





    https://twitter.com/SalmanRushdie

    Cheers

    -don
  • WOW! ONE provider! Maybe china told them "WE DON'T WANT THIS", and they simply disabled the account. It takes only SECONDS, and BYE BYE! China may hate the US as much as NK BUT, economically, socially, and in other ways, they have more to lose.

    Steve
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    Yeah, some have speculated that after the U.S. reached out to China they may have sent North Korea a message by blocking them for a bit. On the other hand, while they have condemned the attack, China has said (at least through public channels) that they have no evidence that N.K. was involved in the hack.

    Cheers

    -don
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  • Just pirated it and watched it. It sucks. I probably would have liked it in high-school. But this bad publicity is by far the best thing that could have happened for this film. I would have never paid to see it before - and I'm glad I didn't pay for it this time.
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  • And by the way - most of the online streaming movie rental sites have it. You can see it from any Roku.
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    • We haven't got it in AU, but sure to get it in time!

      My brother works at an independent chain of cinemas, and when Sony spit the dummy, and said no release, he quickly got one of the posters, time will tell if it is worth something one day?

      His boss also waiched it, (this is allowed, since the codex of the 200 odd gig memory module allows the owner one screening, so he or she can decide to put it in their cinema or not) so it was screened technically, but not in the true sense?

      Then the software seizes up and it is unwatchable until Sony releases an undate!


      Online is good, they can only attack Sony directly and not a Cinema!

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  • Just watched it. Not the worst movie I've seen. However, you know a movie is bad when you think, "Boy, I could have used more Seth Rogan."

    One thing I learned: Youtube's VOD sucks.
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  • To me, the silliest aspect of this whole issue is how much attention this movie is getting. I haven't seen it but from all reports it's just an ordinary Hollywood lowbrow comedy. But now it's becoming a bold political statement and an expression of free speech to see it.
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    • From the commercials for it that I have seen, calling it an ordinary Hollywood lowbrow comedy is a complement.
      Makes me wonder if this wasn't all a publicity stunt to get people to watch it because, amurica
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  • For Sony's next trick they will do a movie about the profit Muhammad and pit the non Muslim world against the Muslim world.
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    • So just how much is a Muhammad going for these days?
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      They'll have to get Salman Rushdie involved, to work on the script, for that ...
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    We get you drift...the government and the media lie and you are keeping an open mind. Got it. You have made your "the government lies" and "conspiracy theory" points several times on this thread already, and the majority of those were made after the U.S. announced North Korea was behind the attack.

    Allow me to balance those statements with this one from the FBI.

    Cheers

    -don
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      I don't really care either way who hacked Sony, and I don't care about Sony's losses. Stupidity is ofen punished. But allow me to balance your undying belief in everything the government says. Makes for some very amusing reading.


      10 Nefarious Conspiracies Proven True - Listverse

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  • Don, I'm glad you find my statements so fascinating that you took so much time to collect them. I'm starting to see why you are a "Forum Guru." Forums are obviously a major part of your existence.
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      LoL!

      Larry, you are a funny guy. I don't know if you intend to be such a funny guy, but your posts read like a slightly troubled comedy to me. I operate a hundred of my own websites, run my photo biz, and currently this forum is the only forum that I am active in.

      So no, you have missed the mark by a country mile. Just so you know, I am fairly certain it took me less time to multi-quote you than it took you to write the posts. How much time? Maybe 60-80 seconds to grab them all.

      You are worth it Larry...as you are one of my favorite false flag conspiracy theory guys on the forum.

      Happy New Year!

      -don
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    @ Suzanne

    You really don't have a clue on how much of what the government tells us that I believe. In-fact, IMO, a large percentage of politicians are full of shi$ and tell lies for a living. Do I think that, at times, parts of the gov pitches us a bunch of bullshi&?..of course I do.

    So you can stop with the I have an "undying belief in everything the government says" because it's a lie. A big fat lie. I worked for the government long enough to know the deal from the INSIDE so please stop with that line of B.S.

    As far as the Sony hack goes, yes, I believe the U.S. Gov when they tell us they believe they have linked the hack to North Korea...and we all know North Korea had threatened an an attack for months if the picture was released.

    This thread is about The Interview --> but it's obvious some of you members want to turn this into a "the government lies to us" conspiracy theory thread.

    Knock yourselves out.

    Cheers

    -don
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