ObamaSpeed? President wants 1000 Mbps internet

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President Obama wants to use executive actions, which do not need congressional approval, to help cities develop high speed internet. At this point, the US is 24th in the world in internet speed.

Obama announces executive actions to give Americans 1000Mbps internet
  • Profile picture of the author WalkingCarpet
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    Well good for him.
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    Exec action over internet speed?

    Um...........................
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Originally Posted by joe golfer View Post

    President Obama wants to use executive actions, which do not need congressional approval, to help cities develop high speed internet. At this point, the US is 24th in the world in internet speed.

    Obama announces executive actions to give Americans 1000Mbps internet
    The article said...

    At this point, the US is 24th in the world in internet speed.

    I say...

    Now that's what I'd call "leading from behind".


    From the article...

    For instance, Seoul has an average cost of $30 per month for the fastest internet, which would cost $300 a month in the U.S.

    Wow, now that sounds greedy and excessive.



    And I sincerely hope the net stays like it is - without the ISPS determining who gets what at what speed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      The article said...

      At this point, the US is 24th in the world in internet speed.

      I say...

      Now that's what I'd call "leading from behind".
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      The last time Riffle visited me, I turned around and said "Hey! What you you doing back there?"

      He said "Leading".
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        The last time Riffle visited me, I turned around and said "Hey! What you you doing back there?"

        He said "Leading".

        Pawns always march the front.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          Pawns always march the front.
          I don't know if you mean me to get the picture I got, or put the names to the pawns I did, but it is interesting. You ARE right! And by pawn, I mean PAWN, as it is often understood!

          pawn
          noun

          noun: pawn; plural noun: pawns

          a chess piece of the smallest size and value. A pawn moves one square forward along its file if unobstructed (or two on the first move), or one square diagonally forward when making a capture. Each player begins with eight pawns on the second rank, and can promote a pawn to become any other piece (typically a queen) if it reaches the opponent's end of the board.

          •a person used by others for their own purposes.
          I COULD use the term MARX used, but it is overused at this point and..... Well.....

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          • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
            Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

            I don't know if you mean me to get the picture I got, or put the names to the pawns I did, but it is interesting. You ARE right! And by pawn, I mean PAWN, as it is often understood!



            I COULD use the term MARX used, but it is overused at this point and..... Well.....

            Steve

            Thank you, Steve. It always helps to explain a joke in excruciating detail.
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            • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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              Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

              Thank you, Steve. It always helps to explain a joke in excruciating detail.
              To bad you didn't use prawns instead of pawns. It would make Steve's analysis much more entertaining.
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              • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                To bad you didn't use prawns instead of pawns. It would make Steve's analysis much more entertaining.
                Unfortunately, "prawn" wouldn't have worked in my original post. They have considerably more personality than Claude.
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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                  Unfortunately, "prawn" wouldn't have worked in my original post. They have considerably more personality than Claude.

                  Only as a group. I submit that I have 50% more personality than any single prawn.
                  I don't really like prawn jokes...because they don't get insult humor, and they can't applaud a brilliant witticism.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    Only as a group. I submit that I have 50% more personality than any single prawn.
                    I don't really like prawn jokes...because they don't get insult humor, and they can't applaud a brilliant witticism.
                    I might have agreed with you, but you had to get greedy with 50%.
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                  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    Only as a group. I submit that I have 50% more personality than any single prawn.
                    I don't really like prawn jokes...because they don't get insult humor, and they can't applaud a brilliant witticism.
                    I agree, and they're so Shellfish. (Sounds of barrel being scraped)
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                    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                      Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                      I agree, and their so Shellfish. (Sounds of barrel being scraped)
                      First, very well done. However.....

                      You said "Their" instead of "They're".

                      I'm sorry, I can't be seen with you.



                      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                      I might have agreed with you, but you had to get greedy with 50%.

                      Dan; I was including my hand gestures and nervous tics in my assessment of personality. that's where the 50% came from.
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                      • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                        First, very well done. However.....

                        You said "Their" instead of "They're".

                        I'm sorry, I can't be seen with you.






                        Dan; I was including my hand gestures and nervous tics in my assessment of personality. that's where the 50% came from.
                        I have no idea what you are talking about. And don't think editing my post in your reply to discredit me is going to fool anyone.

                        I'm calling in the Prawn Squad for a full investigation. They will go to the ends of the Earth and the bottom of the sea to find out the truth about this cocktail of fisherman's tales you have concocted. The net draws ever closer on your operations and they will haul you in.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          Pawns always march the front.
          Looks like Claude got pwned (again).
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          Pawns always march the front.

          I remember asking you 'What are you doing that makes your hips thrust with such vigor?"

          And you said "Marching".

          I was in the hospital for 3 days. Thanks.
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        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          Pawns always march the front.
          With an old Queen following on behind.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    The ISPS will ALWAYS determine who gets what! If their routers only support 100MBPS, SORRY! That is ALL YOU GET!

    What is next? He determines that an egg and chicken breakfast be served for FREE by ALL rest areas, convenience stores or restaurants, and OUTLAWS all PORK products? BTW some cultures LOVE pork! There IS a reason why it has sold for over a millenia even though islam, and the old testament have declared it bad. Science DID find ONE thing bad about it, that ironically may be why the OT declared it bad, but proper curing and/or cooking gets rid of THAT problem.

    This is LUDICROUS! Do you guys have any idea what it would take to get 1GB connections everywhere? Here's a HINT! less than a decade ago, the basic infrastructure for a MAJOR ILEC only allowed for a maximum of about 6GB across part of the nation. THEY have to share their resources with CLECs! So they can NOT use all they have! SO, for the two ends there to communicate at 1GB, they would have to have had VERY few users.

    Now GRANTED, they may have upgraded a lot by now, but every major upgrade costs a BUNDLE. They will have to upgrade all the systems, switches, routers, etc... And I bet almost NO sites go faster than 1Gbps, that FEW go at 1Gbps, and a fair chunk go at 10Mbps. Hopefully by now at least close to 50% run at about 100Mbps. That USED to be a GOOD internal network. Last I heard, a GOOD INTERNAL network was 1Gbps. HECK, MY internal network is only 100Mbps, and the most demanding actions STILL don't use all the bandwidth! What is the average user going to use the 1Gbps for? HR gaming? Piracy? Spamming?

    ALSO, it could take YEARS to upgrade the country. If the US did this, it might not even START until he gets out of office.

    OH YEAH, humans can't really process things that fast, so don't talk to me about human rights, digital divide, school, etc... 1Gbps is ********WAY******** beyond that!

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      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      The ISPS will ALWAYS determine who gets what! If their routers only support 100MBPS, SORRY! That is ALL YOU GET!

      What is next? He determines that an egg and chicken breakfast be served for FREE by ALL rest areas, convenience stores or restaurants, and OUTLAWS all PORK products? BTW some cultures LOVE pork! There IS a reason why it has sold for over a millenia even though islam, and the old testament have declared it bad. Science DID find ONE thing bad about it, that ironically may be why the OT declared it bad, but proper curing and/or cooking gets rid of THAT problem.



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    cool, maybe it will take effect by 2050!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      ...did not outline the details of the plan

      Ok - the list is growing

      1. free community college for everyone
      2. paid time off for family leave act
      3. paid sick leave
      4. high speed internet for all

      ...keep em comin'
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
        ObamaSpeed? President wants 1000 Mbps internet

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        Sounds like a desperate man seeking relevance.

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        • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
          Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

          ObamaSpeed? President wants 1000 Mbps internet

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          Sounds like a desperate man seeking relevance.

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          And that makes a lot of sense?
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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Ok - the list is growing

        1. free community college for everyone
        2. paid time off for family leave act
        3. paid sick leave
        4. high speed internet for all

        ...keep em comin'
        I love the smell of executive action in the morning. Smells like . . . . . . victory over a do nothing Congress.

        Cheers. - Frank
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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Ok - the list is growing


        2. paid time off for family leave act
        3. paid sick leave


        ...keep em comin'
        So, America is about to finally join the rest of the OECD countries. About time.
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        • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
          nice to see Obama has his priorities figured out -
          1000 Mbps internet will only be for the top American corps - I think - everyone else will be on the Internet slow lane if the "powers that be" have their way -
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Gordon
    We have stopped investing in our infrastructure for so long that the very notion of planning for the next generation seems alien and out of place.

    Compared to, say, committing us to putting a man on the moon in a decade, this seems pretty mundane and doable.

    C'mon people. Fast, accessible internet access gives our children better tools to stay competitive. And free community college does too. It does not seem like too much to ask from this generation.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Jack Gordon View Post

      We have stopped investing in our infrastructure for so long that the very notion of planning for the next generation seems alien and out of place.

      Compared to, say, committing us to putting a man on the moon in a decade, this seems pretty mundane and doable.

      C'mon people. Fast, accessible internet access gives our children better tools to stay competitive. And free community college does too. It does not seem like too much to ask from this generation.

      You forget the Prime Directive;

      If Obama proposed it, it's bad. The brain produces reasons afterward.

      And on the other side of the isle, if Obama proposed it, it's good. And the brain produces reasons afterward.

      The actual benefits of the idea are secondary to the Prime Directive.

      Silly Rabbits.
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        And on the other side of the isle, if Obama proposed it, it's good. And the brain produces reasons afterward.
        Personally, I don't care if Attila the Hun proposed the idea. It's a good one.

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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        You forget the Prime Directive;
        You forget simple wisdom. The PRIMARY Indicator of future results??? Past performance!

        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        If Obama proposed it, it's bad.
        Lack of leadership renders him unable to deliver on his proposals. Lack of judgement inhibits his ability to make "good" proposals.


        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        The actual benefits of the idea are...
        are overshadowed by the character of it's originator.

        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Silly Rabbits.
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        • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
          Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

          You forget simple wisdom. The PRIMARY Indicator of future results??? Past performance!



          Lack of leadership renders him unable to deliver on his proposals. Lack of judgement inhibits his ability to make "good" proposals.


          are overshadowed by the character of it's originator.



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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


        And on the other side of the isle, if Obama proposed it, it's good. And the brain produces reasons afterward.
        The other side of what isle? The one with Tom Hanks and Wilson?
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          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

          And on the other side of the isle, if Obama proposed it, it's good. And the brain produces reasons afterward.

          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          The other side of what isle? The one with Tom Hanks and Wilson?
          Speaking of "typos"...looks like I'll have to explain this joke to Claude...

          The correct word is "aisle", not "isle". An aisle is defined as a passage between a row of seats. An isle is a small island.

          The Tom Hanks and Wilson reference is from the movie "Cast Away", where Hanks was shipwrecked on a small island and talked to his volley ball friend "Wilson".
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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            Speaking of "typos"...looks like I'll have to explain this joke to Claude...

            The correct word is "aisle", not "isle". An aisle is defined as a passage between a row of seats. An isle is a small island.

            The Tom Hanks and Wilson reference is from the movie "Cast Away", where Hanks was shipwrecked on a small island and talked to his volley ball friend "Wilson".

            Well, thank God you explained it to me.

            Wilson reminded me of you. A perfectly round head, full of hot air, with a fixed blank expression...with lots of make up....and no muscles....who people want to kick in the face.
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        The bran produces reasons afterward.
        Funny - I thought bran produced regularity...
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      • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        You forget the Prime Directive;

        If Obama proposed it, it's bad. The bran produces reasons afterward.

        And on the other side of the isle, if Obama proposed it, it's good. And the brain produces reasons afterward.

        The actual benefits of the idea are secondary to the Prime Directive.

        Silly Rabbits.
        No comments here, just preserving the typo for posterity. Too much bran definitely produces something though, and my reasoning is solid.


        Added: Sorry Mike, did not notice your comment till just now, but I'm on a mission.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

          No comments here, just preserving the typo for posterity. Too much bran definitely produces something though, and my reasoning is solid.


          Added: Sorry Mike, did not notice your comment till just now, but I'm on a mission.
          See...you are all wrong. Bran is the word I intended. You guys think with your brain, but my head is bigger, because it's full of bran...a whole isle of bran.
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          • Profile picture of the author Midnight Oil
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            See...you are all wrong. Bran is the word I intended. You guys think with your brain, but my head is bigger, because it's full of bran...a whole isle of bran.
            Hodor? Hodor!
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          • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            See...you are all wrong. Bran is the word I intended. You guys think with your brain, but my head is bigger, because it's full of bran...a whole isle of bran.

            And, since we know what excessive bran causes the body to do, it's no surprise yours stores it in your head.
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

              And, since we know what excessive bran causes the body to do, it's no surprise yours stores it in your head.
              Now, when you hear me burp, you know what it really is.
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          • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            See...you are all wrong. Bran is the word I intended. You guys think with your brain, but my head is bigger, because it's full of bran...a whole isle of bran.
            A man of loose moral fiber.
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

              A man of loose moral fiber.
              Brilliant....not "Riffle brilliant", but really truly brilliant........ It would have taken me hours to think of that.

              Bravo...and Damn you, Sir!
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Jack Gordon View Post

      We have stopped investing in our infrastructure for so long that the very notion of planning for the next generation seems alien and out of place.

      Compared to, say, committing us to putting a man on the moon in a decade, this seems pretty mundane and doable.

      C'mon people. Fast, accessible internet access gives our children better tools to stay competitive. And free community college does too.


      It does not seem like too much to ask from this generation.
      The notion of investing in infrastructure isn't alien to all of us - just some of us.

      And IMHO...

      Lots of baby boomers like to call the up and coming generation lazy, entitled etc., but an argument can be made that the baby boomers have failed and are failing those that will follow them in a big way.

      IMHO, its not and hasn't been all the baby boomers - just some of them.

      And BTW, there are a lot of older, dangerously bitter people running around the country.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Jack Gordon View Post

      We have stopped investing in our infrastructure for so long that the very notion of planning for the next generation seems alien and out of place.

      Compared to, say, committing us to putting a man on the moon in a decade, this seems pretty mundane and doable.

      C'mon people. Fast, accessible internet access gives our children better tools to stay competitive. And free community college does too. It does not seem like too much to ask from this generation.
      There WAS a LOT of "investing in infrastructure" for the internet in the 1990s. There likely still is. But nobody ever expected to rip up the streets so much, etc...

      Name ********ONE******** reasonable thing that "children" can do with a 1Gbps connection, that they can't do JUST AS WELL with a 100Mbps, or even a 10Mbps connection.. JUST ONE! Putting a man on the moon is at least something that required maybe a few acres of resources. Having national 1Gbps everywhere requires every square inch between the nearest capable connection and the DP, for EACH WAN connection. I once saw the phone company do that for one of our customers. It was quite a production! HECK, my father was in an old house, and had to get a new line. It took WEEKS!!!!!!!!!! And HE lucked out! The nearest capable line was right on the street, RIGHT IN FRONT of his home!

      So WHY did it take so long? The point of demarcation was FAR away, and there were problems, so it had to be moved to another spot on the home. The lines were not pulled to the home, and they had to be. This meant THE ENTIRE DRIVEWAY HAD TO BE RIPPED UP! LUCKILY, a compromise was arrived at, and they cut out a portion of the driveway that was the width of about two bricks. The line was routed across THAT section, and it was filled with bricks. It ended up looking nice, but those bricks are still there after 2 DECADES. But HEY, if they needed a 1Gbps connection, they would STILL have had to do all that because that home was built BEFORE even CAT3, and 1Gbps needs CAT5!

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author marionca
    i wants 1000 Mbps internet too
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Well, If I got 1Gbps, I would have to upgrade my internal network, and likely go wired with my notebook, and I would have to get a VERY fast solid state disk drive, or make my own, and I would download whole disks in 10seconds to 1.5 minutes. I could MAYBE upgrade my server, and provide a backup or whatever. YEAH, I checked. The server I started leasing a year or so ago is 100Mbps! My current NAS, that I bought a few months ago, doesn't even handle 50Mbps!

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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    I do have 1000Mbps uplink ports on my dedicated servers but on the (non-raid) SSD I am running I am getting sequential read and write speeds near between 370-510MB/sec (SATA III) . My old spindle drives are doing less than 200MB/sec. That said, with 95th percentile billing, I can run through my allocated bandwidth (10KGB per/month on each) relative quickly if I allow unlimited download speeds on large download packages (say five 1GB files) and I am getting a good number of sales.

    Many buyers hit my box at around 100-140 Mbps and that's plenty fast enough when allowing unrestricted simultaneous downloads.

    Cheers

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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Perhaps one of the goals of this proposal is to bring higher speed internet to rural communities across the country much like FDR and the TVA first brought electricity to a large part of the south in the 1930s.

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    The Biggest Foes of Obama's High Speed Internet Plan | Motherboard

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    "Last year, a report by the Center for Public Integrity found that US cable and telecom giants have spent millions of dollars over the last decade to “lobby state legislatures, influence state elections and buy research to try to stop the spread of public internet services that often offer faster speeds at cheaper rates.”
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    "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. -- Mark Twain

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