NSA Has Ability To Hide Spying Software Deep Within Hard Drives

This only becomes a problem if you have anything to hide.

Came across this comment recently, makes yuo think who is spying on who?

International spyware operation linked to NSA

How do you know you have nothing to hide? I suspect it isn't true, but it IS plausible. In one text book, that made it into several colleges, there is a story claiming that the US was debating about dropping the bomb. The story goes that the Japanese were speaking, in a secret brief about CONSIDERING the surrender, and it was intercepted and translated as REJECTING the surrender. The moral was that a SINGLE misunderstood word could have been responsible for a decision that LITERALLY haunts this world TO THIS DAY!

I have seen enough examples of this kind of disaster PERSONALLY, and some happen behind your back. You may NEVER realize WHY! And remember, this has ******NOTHING****** to do with what you say or do! NOTHING!!!!!!! It has to do what a person is willing to CLAIM they IMAGINED based on their INTERPRETATION of what you say and/or do. Did Richard Jewell say, do, or buy anything suspicious? NOPE! The New York times is LITERALLY calling him a HERO! HERE is his obituary: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/30/us/30jewell.html?_r=0

But interpretation made him out to be some EVIL good for nothing lazy bum that wanted to bomb the olympics, or at least put them at risk, just to see himself in the paper.

Steve

No idea, Joe. I have never heard of malware detectors that checked for changes in the firmware that way.

actually your bios is supposedly locked already, and this (locking) is being raised as a conspiracy by some.

For example:

Yes, UEFI 'secure boot' could lock out Linux from Windows 8 PCs | ZDNet

EDIT: Yesterday I came across more info on the OP... it's not the computer firmware or bios, it's the hard drive firmware that is being infected. Nasty. Guess the hard drive mfr's are going to have to go back to ROM and not EEPROM or flash for their controller code. I means it's not like I ever had to update the frmware on my hard drive controller board in the last 20 years.

So, it's the countries the NSA should be spying on anyway.

Maybe if people in this world started acting like human beings and not animals, then the NSA wouldn't have to do this. When I say acting like animals I'm talking like very illegal stuff such as terrorism, child porn, and ect.... It's only for the better IMO.

BTW Denmark recently had attacks. DW did another report on denmark. A lot of people there speak english fine, so you don't even have to rely on translation:

VIDEO | DW.DE

Listen to how matter of fact the whole thing is! Frankly, I am SHOCKED! One of my anecdotes has been about how I described a FAR less violent area, and people many HUNDREDS OF MILES away could tell me the name of the STREET I was on! I guess that is now but a fond memory, as the area described here is obviously WORSE!

Steve

I can just hear the intel briefings they are having on Steve: "Watch out boys - he's armed to the teeth with punctuation marks!! and CAPITAL LETTERS!! and he isn't afraid to use them!! When we go in we are going to have to go hard and heavy with our grammar books drawn and our English usage guides as backups. Be careful guys and make sure you Skype with your family before we hit his house."

Mark

Okay I have posted in another thread and stated I have a degree in Counter Terrorism Studies.

As Obama says, "Let ME Be Clear," We have the largest unprotected border in the world with millions of people illegally crossing into this country every year, and from all kinds of nationalities, Mexican, South American, Chinese, Middle Eastern, etc. No check on their affiliations, many carrying diseases that we are not immune to, nor do we hold enough vaccines to combat certain viruses. There are over 371 known terrorist training camps here on US soil, and the feds say they can't do anything until they actually commit a crime? These are real facts, not a simple conspiracy theory.

So, with all that said.....if terrorism were such a huge threat, and it really is, ( I could tell you about thwarted attacks that would make your head spin that you have never heard about), then why is the spying into the everyday citizen's lives necessary? i.e. we will not control the border, we have definite terrorist groups training on US soil, but will not stop them until an attack, and all of these other blunt in your face dangers? Yet Jim Bob drinking a beer in his living room is necessary to watch, record? That 80 year old granny, who learned how to email her grandkids is such a huge threat, that we have to monitor her phone calls, emails, etc?

This has been going on since the Cold War secretly, and was proven to be unconstitutional, illegal, and made to be kept quiet until it was upheld by the supreme court as being "constitutional." This was going on way before Edward Snowden leaked it. At&t, Verizon, Google, Yahoo, and other hosting companies all took the case to the supreme court in 2004, where they were ordered to give up their client's information, data, etc., as well as received a gag order of non-disclosure.

My point being, their spying on US citizens is a huge overreach, and it is way out of control! There are real threats, many they know of, yet they would rather spy on you and I instead of actually going after the issue.

We live in a state of idiocracy, and the masses are sheeple giving away their freedoms for what? A false sense of security? What a JOKE! You give them an inch, and they will take a mile under the guise of terrorism, that they are not even being proactive in stopping.

Ponder on that for a while, then come back and tell me you are okay with being spied on.

Regarding capability to mine data. I have SERIOUSLY lost track of all of this. By that, I mean I just go to the store every now and then now t see what is popular, capabilities, technology, and price. And what we have TRADITIONALLY been sold in stores is virtually JUNK! So you can only estimate lower end capabilities. STILL, the lower end capabilities today are ASTOUNDING! 1TB solid state hard drives are now common place. Keep in mind that solid state disk drives have been available on the open market for over 30 years, and many only now really pay attention to them because you can now get them in the stores. FURTHER, some drive units now have capabilities of several petabytes, and HEYSAL said she has seen some that were exabytes. I literally laughed in 1998 when Microsoft said their SQL SERVER 1999 could now handle 16 exabytes. I thought WHO would use so much, and how would MICROSOFT handle it? Of course Microsoft then still said to keep it down to 1TB, which then sounded almost as crazy to most. Think of it! An Exabyte is over a million Terabytes!

As for what SAL said about water? It may seem crazy, but using air for cooling only works to a degree. CPUs in IBM compatibles today conduct decently, have a large surface area, and selectively throttle down and sleep if they get too hot. STILL, you need a fan to help limit all of that. That is one reason why it often takes SO long to get a new chip into laptops. They often make a special version just for laptops, because desktops can be noisier, have more dead air area, and are bigger. If things get denser, or you want a 100% duty cycle, you may need some other media, and that is often water. That is what cars use, for example. Large mainframe computers often do ALSO! So if the NEW NSA systems use water, you can imagine how fast they must be.

Steve