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Just got back from the shelter with Casanova, a Coonhound. Some of you know I had two dogs, a Westie and Basset Hound. A few months ago, my Basset died. I didn't mention it because I can hardly breath when I think of it.

So, today I added a new friend for me and Buddy, my Westie. He came from a place where he was kept in a kennel and was nothing but a hunting dog and grossly underfed. He's skin and bones and will take some time to socialize to the house and to eating regularly.





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    Aww! He's adorable!

    Congrats!!

    Give him some lovin' from me too!


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    • Profile picture of the author Cali16
      Suzanne, no doubt this adorable little guy is very lucky to have found a new home with you and Buddy! It's heartbreaking to see him so thin, but now that he's with you I'm sure he'll get to a healthy weight soon and be a very happy dog who knows he's loved.
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    Awwwwwwwww, that's great. I'm sure you'll nurse him back to health. Adorable dog. Makes miss the ones I used to have....

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I love hounds - once they decide to adopt YOU, they are a friend for life.

      Get some meat on those bones - I bet he'll be a handsome one.
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      • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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        Great news, Suzanne. I am so happy for you - and, him. I hope he likes chicken. :-)

        So sorry to hear that you lost one of your kids. Heart breaking, I know. My Honey is growing into an outstanding creature. Her shelter months are finally starting to fade.

        I hope you are both happy for many years.

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Thanks all ... I have been running around buying new doggie supplies. He's eaten 3 times since he got here this afternoon. Should have picked up an extra 50 lb sack of food. He inhales it.

    He's very calm and loving. I was surprised by his calmness, particularly since he was housed outdoors with other hunting dogs all his life. He seems very happy to be here and he and Buddy get along right off the bat. He's giving the cat the stink eye, but I'll work on that.
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      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      He's giving the cat the stink eye, but I'll work on that.
      They'll wind up being best of friends. It's the cat that generally has issues - not the pooch. You'll see. :-)

      Cheers. - Frank
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

        They'll wind up being best of friends. It's the cat that generally has issues - not the pooch. You'll see. :-)

        Cheers. - Frank
        My cat is a dog lover even when the affection isn't returned. Buddy tolerates her. lol. Casanova seems more curious than anything. They'll get used to each other.
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          Win <-- Win <-- Suzanne <-- Dog

          Just seems logical to me.


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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    OMG - Suzanne. I am so sorry for your loss. I know that one. It's horrendous at best.

    This new guy is just precious. It makes my heart bleed to see the shape he's in and I am so happy he's getting a happy ending to his story. Please keep us posted as you get him back to health and security. His eyes are so soulful. I can tell he knows he's been saved. He'll be as much of a blessing for you as you are for him right now. Thank you for opening your home and heart to him.
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    • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
      Thanks for rescuing him. He should probably fill out like he should be in a short while, at least he's young and should bounce back. How can anyone let their dog get so thin? Well, he's a lucky guy now. Will you be teaching him couch potato behavior soon?

      It's so hard to replace a very beloved pet, the one we have now my son and I picked out the same day as I had my older, very ill one put to sleep. It was all I could do not to pass out signing the papers to get her. I had to get one immediately as our home was so empty without the one we put to sleep.

      Our newest pup was around 12-13 weeks old when we rescued her, mixed large breed, and was totally excited beyond her wildest dreams to get fed four times a day, treats and her own toys. About 10 or so pups were in a kennel together and I don't think she always managed to get enough at feeding time and they had no toys for them.

      By the way, has he been tested for heartworm and lyme disease? There are immunizations for dogs against lyme disease and our pup now has to have that yearly as she had lyme disease--I think the plentiful rabbits that are all over here are the carriers.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

        Thanks for rescuing him. He should probably fill out like he should be in a short while, at least he's young and should bounce back. How can anyone let their dog get so thin? Well, he's a lucky guy now. Will you be teaching him couch potato behavior soon?
        Already done. He spent his first night at the foot of my bed (on the bed). Buddy gets the prime beside me in the bed spot, as he's always been the first dog. lol.

        Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

        It's so hard to replace a very beloved pet, the one we have now my son and I picked out the same day as I had my older, very ill one put to sleep. It was all I could do not to pass out signing the papers to get her. I had to get one immediately as our home was so empty without the one we put to sleep.
        I had to wait a few months. I was so grief stricken that I didn't think I could warm up to another dog until some time had passed.


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        By the way, has he been tested for heartworm and lyme disease? There are immunizations for dogs against lyme disease and our pup now has to have that yearly as she had lyme disease--I think the plentiful rabbits that are all over here are the carriers.
        He's heartworm negative but needs to be tested for lyme.

        ALL: His name at the shelter is Casanova, but I doubt that really is his name. I think this was an animal control seizure and they know only that he was kept outside as a hunting dog and underfed.

        So, I tried calling him Casanova and there's no recognition of that name, so I've decided to change it to something I like better.

        His official name is now Walker. I looked up the different types of coonhounds and the Treeing Walker Coonhound is the best fit. He loves to stand on his hind legs and when he does that ... on me ... we look each other eye to eye. He's very tall and I think he has the treeing instinct down pat.

        He's so tall, that his nose can touch the top of all of our counters in the kitchen and it starts twitching. Being a scent hound and as fond of food as he is, you know what that means ... don't turn your back on food on the counter. I have no doubt that he would stand up, grab it and devour anything up there. lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I'm sure you know this, but coon hounds love (need) to run and run and run to be happy and healthy.


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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      I'm sure you know this, but coon hounds love (need) to run and run and run to be happy and healthy.

      And congratulations on your new family member.
      Yeah ... thanks. I'm aware of their need for scenting time and exercise. My Basset was the same. Nose to the ground and full speed ahead. lol.
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    My rottie's best friend was a black and tan coon hound. They would run together. It worried me a little because rotties really aren't bred to run forever, so I had to keep a good eye on him to make sure he didn't over-exert himself trying to keep up since the coon hound could run all day.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Changing the name is a good idea even if the original name is known - it lets them know their identity and life is changing and allows them to let go of "how it was" and that things are different now. For an abused dog, that's really important they understand that.

    Kurt - two of my rots were extreme about running. Never hurt them any. Blitz was more laid back, but he was a stockier rott, too - German, and the other two were English. From what I've experienced, the English Rotties move faster and longer than the Germans.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      What I've done with a few animals is change the name by adapting the current name. That makes an easy transition for them if they DO know their name.

      If he was ignored and abused - the name may mean nothing to him but he could easily be casey or nova and he'll pick it up fast.

      He's very calm and loving. I was surprised by his calmness, particularly since he was housed outdoors with other hunting dogs all his life. He seems very happy to be here and he and Buddy get along right off the bat. He's giving the cat the stink eye, but I'll work on that.
      I think hounds are often treated as "dumb animals" and I've not found them to be that at all. When you separate one an treat him as a "special guy" he picks up quickly and basks in the attention. That little guy will do his best to please you now until his dying breath.

      I agree about waiting after a loss - I've found when I've lost a much loved pet a new animal often finds me at the right time.

      I've been living here now for 3 months and Gracie (my pit) is only now fully comfortable with the 2 "new" cats here (new to her) but was besties with my son't two dogs within 2-3 days of the move.

      Give the Cass a pat and treat for me!
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        What I've done with a few animals is change the name by adapting the current name. That makes an easy transition for them if they DO know their name.

        If he was ignored and abused - the name may mean nothing to him but he could easily be casey or nova and he'll pick it up fast.

        I think hounds are often treated as "dumb animals" and I've not found them to be that at all. When you separate one an treat him as a "special guy" he picks up quickly and basks in the attention. That little guy will do his best to please you now until his dying breath.

        I agree about waiting after a loss - I've found when I've lost a much loved pet a new animal often finds me at the right time.

        I've been living here now for 3 months and Gracie (my pit) is only now fully comfortable with the 2 "new" cats here (new to her) but was besties with my son't two dogs within 2-3 days of the move.

        Give the Cats a pat and treat for me!

        I think the name Casanova was a marketing thing with the shelter. He doesn't recognize it at all, not even Cass or Cassie. I don't think they know what his name was. He'll eventually hear Walker enough that he'll know that means him.

        I needn't have worried about the cats. One of the cats is very, very old and very weak. The other is in mid-life. He has only gently sniffed them and not bothered them at all. They have taken him in their stride. They're never surprised by or afraid of dogs. So this is going to work out fine for all.

        He is the most well mannered dog for where he came from, other than his desire to stand on hind legs and investigate both me and counters and tables, etc. He does respond to a stern No ... and that surprised me too. He's a real lover.
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        • Profile picture of the author WalkingCarpet
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          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          I think the name Casanova was a marketing thing with the shelter. He doesn't recognize it at all, not even Cass or Cassie. I don't think they know what his name was. He'll eventually hear Walker enough that he'll know that means him.

          I needn't have worried about the cats. One of the cats is very, very old and very weak. The other is in mid-life. He has only gently sniffed them and not bothered them at all. They have taken him in their stride. They're never surprised by or afraid of dogs. So this is going to work out fine for all.

          He is the most well mannered dog for where he came from, other than his desire to stand on hind legs and investigate both me and counters and tables, etc. He does respond to a stern No ... and that surprised me too. He's a real lover.
          The dog looks beaten. Look on his face says something like "From the frying pan into the fire "
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          • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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            Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet View Post

            The dog looks beaten. Look on his face says something like "From the frying pan into the fire "
            That's not a very nice thing to say. Do you ever engage that tiny brain you possess before opening your pie-hole?

            I'm sure that pooch could not be at a better place than he is now.

            Cheers. - Frank
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            • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
              I like the name, Walker. Two-syllable names are much easier than Casanova. We renamed our pup from the shelter, too. They named her Maxine, which just didn't fit her.

              I know what you mean about food within reach. She's a lot better about that now. She was also into checking out the dishes in the sink to see if there was still anything that interested her. She still steals my pot holders and oven mitts every chance she gets. Since she knows she isn't allowed, she cries all the time she has it, so we know she's got yet another one. If we aren't home, she usually hides the evidence.
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by WalkingCarpet View Post

            The dog looks beaten. Look on his face says something like "From the frying pan into the fire "
            Being an asshole is all you really know how to do, isn't it. The pics are him at the shelter. He loves it here. Sometimes it seems like you're trying to be witty ... only you have no wit.
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            • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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              Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

              Being an asshole is all you really know how to do, isn't it.
              That's neither accurate nor fair. He obviously excels at being a douche bag.
              Sometimes it seems like you're trying to be shitty ... and you're succeeding.
              Fixed that one for you.

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              • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                I just saw the bottom picture from the pound. Made me bust out crying. I will never understand how anyone can abuse a dog. I just can't wrap my head around that. It kills me.

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                • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                  Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                  I just saw the bottom picture from the pound. Made me bust out crying. I will never understand how anyone can abuse a dog. I just can't wrap my head around that. It kills me.

                  F.
                  Yeah ... he's painfully thin. He'll never be hungry again. He has nicks on the tips of his ears and scuffs over parts of his body. He's had a rough life so far. He deserves so much better.
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                  • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                    Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                    Yeah ... he's painfully thin. He'll never be hungry again. He has nicks on the tips of his ears and scuffs over parts of his body. He's had a rough life so far. He deserves so much better.
                    I would never tell anyone how to care for their dog, but I would ask that you be very careful not to overcompensate for the prior deprivation he has experienced. It's human nature and a loving act to do so, but there is nothing more taxing on every aspects of a dog's existence than being overweight. A thin dog is a fit dog.

                    I know that you know what I'm trying to communicate. I hope so, anyway.

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                    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                      Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                      I would never tell anyone how to care for their dog, but I would ask that you be very careful not to overcompensate for the prior deprivation he has experienced. It's human nature and a loving act to do so, but there is nothing more taxing on every aspects of a dog's existence than being overweight. A thin dog is a fit dog.

                      I know that you know what I'm trying to communicate. I hope so, anyway.

                      Cheers. - Frank
                      Yeah ... Coondogs are a bit on the thin side naturally. I'm increasing his food enough to put on some weight and then go on a maintenance diet.

                      One guy said that they are such high energy dogs, that they never get fat.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Jeesh - WC might be right - although harshly worded - a new guy doesn't know what to expect. At all. People who love animals as much as Suzanne can take that fear out of him real fast, but when you first take a new abused dog home, they are definitely wondering what is happening to them now.

    This is why changing the name is important. Let's them know new stuff is going on right away.

    I've found the quickest way to teach a dog his name is to get him and anyone else in the house together - pat yourself on the chest and say your name as you will use it to talk to the animal (they don't understand pronouns). Then you pat the dog's chest, say his name - pat the next person or animal on the chest, say their name, pat the new dog on the chest again and say his name. Name everyone he will be living with and name him right after each. All you have to do after that is call another person or animal by name a few times when you talk to them and he will know that he's been named and will also know who's being spoken to once he remembers the name.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    I'm surprised his name isn't Johnny Depp.
    Although Johnny Walker works. LOL

    I had a dog that people kept saying was too thin.
    She was a Husky/Shepherd/possible wolf mix,
    or maybe just pure sled dog lineage Husky (they can
    be on the thin side). She was a very picky eater and would
    only eat what she needed - even if I left a ton of her favorite wet
    food out. (When it came to dogs, I was a mess for about a year
    after she died. Finally forced myself to get another one.)

    Anyway, people in the know, know how to measure if a dog is
    too thin and I suspect that you are one of those in the know.

    Thank you for adopting him.

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    • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
      Adopting the same day was one of the most difficult things I have ever done. It certainly wasn't out of disrespect for the one we lost as we really loved her, and of course, really spoiled her. What adopting so quickly for us did was help keep our attention focused on a very naughty and needy puppy. It wasn't easy, but it really did help.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        He'll never be hungry again.
        It will take him a while to figure that out. Untl he does, he'll attack every piece of food in sight.

        I've given pets new names - in many cases they didn't have a name when I rescued them.

        What worked best for me was to clearly say the name and then the word "treat" and then give them a doggie biscuit. After a day or two, I would start saying the dog's name well away from the "treats" and then say "treat" when I reached that cabinet in the kitchen.

        By the 3rd or 4th day - saying the name alone would get the dog's attention immediately. Once that happened I gave them a lot of positive attention and they knew their name from then on. I've done the same with cats and every cat I've had for years came to his NAME.

        I want to see Walker's photos in about 2 months - he'll look like a different dude by then!
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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          It will take him a while to figure that out. Untl he does, he'll attack every piece of food in sight.

          I've given pets new names - in many cases they didn't have a name when I rescued them.

          What worked best for me was to clearly say the name and then the word "treat" and then give them a doggie biscuit. After a day or two, I would start saying the dog's name well away from the "treats" and then say "treat" when I reached that cabinet in the kitchen.

          By the 3rd or 4th day - saying the name alone would get the dog's attention immediately. Once that happened I gave them a lot of positive attention and they knew their name from then on. I've done the same with cats and every cat I've had for years came to his NAME.

          I want to see Walker's photos in about 2 months - he'll look like a different dude by then!
          Yeah ... I agree. As for the food, right now he is completely obsessed with it. I just cooked dinner and he never took his eyes off the counter and stove. lol. And I had just fed him, so he shouldn't have been hungry. Buddy makes a mess and scatters some of his nuggets on the floor. No problem now. Walker eats every one of them.

          He has done a lot of relaxing today. I think all the changes tired him out. I will post some pics of him after he starts to look healthier.
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            Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

            Yeah ... I agree. As for the food, right now he is completely obsessed with it. I just cooked dinner and he never took his eyes off the counter and stove. lol. And I had just fed him, so he shouldn't have been hungry. Buddy makes a mess and scatters some of his nuggets on the floor. No problem now. Walker eats every one of them.

            He has done a lot of relaxing today. I think all the changes tired him out. I will post some pics of him after he starts to look healthier.
            I have a feeling Walker is going to be like Cooper, another hound in the video below, which by the way is one of my all-time favorite videos.


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            • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              I have a feeling Walker is going to be like Cooper, another hound in the video below, which by the way is one of my all-time favorite videos.
              lol .... that is sooo Walker. I was talking to a friend who had a Coonhound and he said there was a pot of spaghetti sauce simmering on the stove and the dog just stood up and buried his head in the pot and ate all the simmering spaghetti sauce. Walker would have easily devoured the chicken I was cooking last night if I weren't supervising. Great video. I loved it.

              Originally Posted by Cali16 View Post

              Suzanne, Walker is a great name!

              I didn't realize from the photos just how big this dog is. He must think he's died and gone to heaven now that he's with you, getting lots of love, plenty of food, and getting to sleep on your bed!
              Yeah Cali, he's HUGE. He wagged his tail and looked real happy last night when he realized that it wasn't just a dream and that he actually was going to bed with me again. lol.

              Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

              I'm sure it goes without saying, but careful about taking, touching, or moving his food.
              Especially kiddos. (I think it should be kiddows, like minnows, but kiddos is more common
              and passes spell check.)
              I've tested him. He doesn't have food aggression, but I still wouldn't allow my grandchildren to test that for me. So far, haven't seen an ounce of aggression of any type from him. He's just very loving.
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                Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post


                Yeah Cali, he's HUGE. He wagged his tail and looked real happy last night when he realized that it wasn't just a dream and that he actually was going to bed with me again. lol.

                I've tested him. He doesn't have food aggression, but I still wouldn't allow my grandchildren to test that for me. So far, haven't seen an ounce of aggression of any type from him. He's just very loving.

                (We'll work on Johnny Depp's reality for ya. I'm having my people get in touch with Taylor Swift's people to get in touch with Depp's people. Could be awhile.)

                Exactly good thinking as I figure you have. So many unique situations can arise. I had a very docile dog - not Alpha or Beta, type C or D, I'd say - and I was single. So she was never really around dogs or children. I could move her food all I wanted. Then, one time, one time, I'm at my brother's house for a few hours and she snarled and snapped at my brother's dog while they were eating. That's the only time I ever saw her 'viscious'.

                With another dog, I was at an off leash bark park and, without any provocation, he was very aggressively charged by another dog. A Golden Retriever of all breeds. Idiot that I can be, I stuck my hand out and got
                a fang deep puncture wound. (note to self: yelling knock it off at said dog put him into submission) As I'm
                leaving to go wash my wound, the owner tells me she is working with a trainer. How about getting the training
                done before going to an off leash park?
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                  Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

                  With another dog, I was at an off leash bark park and, without any provocation, he was very aggressively charged by another dog. A Golden Retriever of all breeds. Idiot that I can be, I stuck my hand out and got a fang deep puncture wound. (note to self: yelling knock it off at said dog put him into submission) As I'm leaving to go wash my wound, the owner tells me she is working with a trainer. How about getting the training
                  done before going to an off leash park?
                  That would really tick me off if me or my dog got bit at an off leash dog park. Those places aren't for training aggressive dogs, using everyone else as the guinea pigs.

                  Originally Posted by Karen Blundell View Post

                  he's beautiful, Suzanne - enjoy your new member of your family - I'm sure you'll have lots and lots of happy times together
                  Thanks, Karen.
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                    Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                    That would really tick me off if me or my dog got bit at an off leash dog park. Those places aren't for training aggressive dogs, using everyone else as the guinea pigs.



                    Thanks, Karen.
                    My veterinarian was at that same bark park and almost got into fisticuffs with some woman because
                    the woman was spraying something - probably just water - at every dog that came near. She had
                    some attitude when my vet asked her to stop and wanted to know what the heck she was spraying.

                    I stopped going to bark parks because of aggressive dogs and stupid humans. I had a lady snap
                    a leash on her dog right in front of my dog. She knew that her dog gets aggressive when on leash.

                    Humans.

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                    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                      My veterinarian was at that same bark park and almost got into fisticuffs with some woman because the woman was spraying something - probably just water - at every dog that came near. She had some attitude when my vet asked her to stop and wanted to know what the heck she was spraying.

                      I stopped going to bark parks because of aggressive dogs and stupid humans. I had a lady snap a leash on her dog right in front of my dog. She knew that her dog gets aggressive when on leash.

                      Humans.

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                      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                      I had to stop taking Ricky to one of the parks I lived by, too. I don't often go to parks with a dog anyway, I usually live by a lot of wide open space and take advantage of it to let the dog off leash and experience the wild. God I miss having a dog. Soon. Very soon I'll be in a situation to adopt again. It's being a very hard wait.
                      Yeah, I hated taking Buddy, but I really wanted him to be dog socialized. As soon as he was, I stopped taking him. The risk was greater than I was willing to take after that. Buddy is a little guy and some of the dogs there were just enormous and one bite could have killed him.

                      ... and yeah, Sal. I don't know how you do it. I've lived with dogs for so long, my heart would stop if I didn't have one. I think in the back of my mind, it's why I have had two for so long. When Boomer died, Buddy got me through. He always has.

                      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                      Suzanne - when I met Ricky, he wasn't allowed in the house unless it got frigid outside. He had a couch in the garage so it wasn't like he was outside outside, but he was still sick, miserable, forlorn, and cold. When Sue found out he had cancer she let me start keeping him with me at night. I'll never forget the first night he slept beside me. The second night he stood and looked at me like he was hoping but didn't know if he'd been just given a treat or if life was new. The look on that boys face when I put him on the bed and told him "Ricky bed with Sal now". If dogs could cry - he would have been sobbing with relief.
                      My brother has two dogs that have a big kennel outside and they are always outside except when it is frigid. I don't know why he bothers with dogs, because training and companionship is not in his vocabulary.

                      Walker's third night now on the bed and this time he knew this was where he was going. He leaped on the bed and did this happy dance .... lol. He wouldn't lay down and be still until I laid down. He's really a great dog.

                      There's something about a shelter dog that has had a hard life. Buddy has never known anything but love and care, so he expects it. Walker and other shelter dogs are so happy and grateful that life has changed, it seems they tread on eggshells not to upset the applecart. I know some people have more difficulty training and socializing and gaining trust of shelter dogs, but when I choose one (and I did this with my cat too), I choose one that is looking at me, barking at me and literally begging me to notice him/her. Walker did that. Another Coonhound that I took for a walk there, did not. He didn't engage with me in any way. He was only interested in the walk and tracking a scent. I know that is what he was bred for, but Walker bent over backwards to get my attention.

                      He has zero behavior problems with the exception of food obsession and that's not really a problem, because I know it and won't leave food out on the counter for him to gobble up. I know that he won't be able to control himself if left with a big, smelly ham on the counter. lol. Other than that, he walks without pulling me, has had no accidents in the house, doesn't bark in the house, and understands what I mean when I say no. I feel like I got very lucky to have him.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            Suzanne - earlier this afternoon I read a quick little ebook I picked up for 99 cents from Amazon. It reminded me of dogs I've rescued and made me cry happy tears. It's about a 30 minute read and I loved it.

            It's a story about rescue from a dog's viewpoint - and the author obviously knows dogs well. You might enjoy it (not affiliate, of course)

            A Life Worth Living - Kindle edition by Jennifer...A Life Worth Living - Kindle edition by Jennifer...
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          Suzanne, Walker is a great name!

          I didn't realize from the photos just how big this dog is. He must think he's died and gone to heaven now that he's with you, getting lots of love, plenty of food, and getting to sleep on your bed!
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

        Adopting the same day was one of the most difficult things I have ever done. It certainly wasn't out of disrespect for the one we lost as we really loved her, and of course, really spoiled her. What adopting so quickly for us did was help keep our attention focused on a very naughty and needy puppy. It wasn't easy, but it really did help.
        Everyone handles things differently. I was so depressed, I didn't feel that I could give another dog the love and attention that they needed at the time. I just had to walk through the days and take care of me and Buddy (and the cats).

        I knew I was getting better when I started visiting Petfinder.com and looking at the shelter dogs.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    I'm sure it goes without saying, but careful about taking, touching, or moving his food.
    Especially kiddos. (I think it should be kiddows, like minnows, but kiddos is more common
    and passes spell check.)
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I disagree. When I have a dog that is what I call "food sensitive" (hasn't had enough regular food in the past)...

      I DO move his food. I'm the boss and he needs to know that (in a gentle way) from the get go. I move the food, pick it up, put it down....feed him from my hand, etc. Food aggression is possessive and you can't allow a dog to do that as it puts the dog at risk.

      The best time to stop any behavioral problems is right away as he adapts to a new home. I doubt this dog is food aggressive - I think he's probably anxious for now and Suzanne will fix him!
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    Ohhh, I was not saying to allow it. To be aware of the possibility of it because
    he's maybe from a food competitive environment. Train it absolutely. But watch out
    until he is trained.
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    he's beautiful, Suzanne - enjoy your new member of your family - I'm sure you'll have lots and lots of happy times together
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I had to stop taking Ricky to one of the parks I lived by, too. I don't often go to parks with a dog anyway, I usually live by a lot of wide open space and take advantage of it to let the dog off leash and experience the wild. God I miss having a dog. Soon. Very soon I'll be in a situation to adopt again. It's being a very hard wait.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Sal, I can't believe you've lasted this long without a dog. You gotta get situated so you can have a companion this summer.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Kay, it's tough alright. Where I live now they just "rescued" a second dog. As far as I'm concerned they shouldn't have the first one. These animals are never taken anywhere and can't even see out of the backyard because of a privacy fence. They are bored crapless and I feel bad for them. They're fed and housed, but they're just kind of there. The new dog cries a lot because he wants to go - but nobody will take him. It breaks my heart. Not sure what will happen to him after I leave. I do as much as I can with him and at least offer a little entertainment for the little guy. Of course, these people don't take care of themselves either. They're both on disability and sick as hell all the time. Wife is a walking drug cocktail that can barely walk. Never leaves the house, and has nothing to talk about but how sick she is. They're honest and kind, but I can hardly wait to get situated to get my own place - I'll be able to afford to do that here as some rents are really low. Getting close. Getting real close.

    Suzanne - when I met Ricky, he wasn't allowed in the house unless it got frigid outside. He had a couch in the garage so it wasn't like he was outside outside, but he was still sick, miserable, forlorn, and cold. When Sue found out he had cancer she let me start keeping him with me at night. I'll never forget the first night he slept beside me. The second night he stood and looked at me like he was hoping but didn't know if he'd been just given a treat or if life was new. The look on that boys face when I put him on the bed and told him "Ricky bed with Sal now". If dogs could cry - he would have been sobbing with relief.
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    • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
      I would never take any pet of mine to a dog park. There's just no way to depend on every other owner to have their dog properly immunized. Some think they can go there with a sick dog or get theirs socialized. There are so many people you just can't trust and I have no plans to deal with those consequences.

      At one time I worked with a woman who adopted a dog, really needed it for her own socialization and always took her to the dog park. The poor dog caught something and died before she realized what happened to her.
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        Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

        I would never take any pet of mine to a dog park. There's just no way to depend on every other owner to have their dog properly immunized. Some think they can go there with a sick dog or get theirs socialized. There are so many people you just can't trust and I have no plans to deal with those consequences.

        At one time I worked with a woman who adopted a dog, really needed it for her own socialization and always took her to the dog park. The poor dog caught something and died before she realized what happened to her.
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        Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

        I would never take any pet of mine to a dog park. There's just no way to depend on every other owner to have their dog properly immunized. Some think they can go there with a sick dog or get theirs socialized. There are so many people you just can't trust and I have no plans to deal with those consequences.

        At one time I worked with a woman who adopted a dog, really needed it for her own socialization and always took her to the dog park. The poor dog caught something and died before she realized what happened to her.
        Was her dog properly Immunized then ?

        Back on topic, this thread shows both the bad in people and the good / kindness in people, and what a great outcome for that dog now.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Here's some pics.

    This is Walker doing the dishes and cooking dinner. lol. This is why you don't leave food on the counter with him around. You can see how tall he is (and what an old beat up farm kitchen we have).



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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Checking out the microwave? I love it!

      There's something about a shelter dog that has had a hard life. ..., I choose one that is looking at me, barking at me and literally begging me to notice him/her. Walker did that. Another Coonhound that I took for a walk there, did not. He didn't engage with me in any way. He was only interested in the walk and tracking a scent. I know that is what he was bred for, but Walker bent over backwards to get my attention.
      I know what you mean. I chose a dog once because he put his paw on my foot and just looked at me like "please"...home we went. Another one was when I was TRYING to volunteer at an animal shelter. I was walking a dog and she stopped and just leaned into me...and home we went.

      I've never taken a dog to a dog park. The concept is great for city dogs in my opinion. Dogs that would otherwise have no chance to ever be off leash will love a dog park. Dogs in apartments and small lots or condos are usually socialized and need a place to run.

      There is a large dog park near my new home - and the park is in a STATE park where there are miles of wooded trails, etc. Why would I sit in a "dog park" instead of walking trails with my dog???
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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Checking out the microwave? I love it!

        I know what you mean. I chose a dog once because he put his paw on my foot and just looked at me like "please"...home we went. Another one was when I was TRYING to volunteer at an animal shelter. I was walking a dog and she stopped and just leaned into me...and home we went.
        My cat did that. There were two rows of cats. She was on the bottom row and the top row was eye level so they got noticed a lot more. She stretched her leg out and caught my pants and patted my leg ... like hey ... down here. Please take me. So I did.

        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        I've never taken a dog to a dog park. The concept is great for city dogs in my opinion. Dogs that would otherwise have no chance to ever be off leash will love a dog park. Dogs in apartments and small lots or condos are usually socialized and need a place to run.

        There is a large dog park near my new home - and the park is in a STATE park where there are miles of wooded trails, etc. Why would I sit in a "dog park" instead of walking trails with my dog???
        Buddy was the only dog when I got him and a city dog and had no dog friends. I wanted him to be social with dogs, so I took him. It worked. He never meets a dog he doesn't like.
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    ... and yeah, Sal. I don't know how you do it. I've lived with dogs for so long, my heart would stop if I didn't have one. I think in the back of my mind, it's why I have had two for so long. When Boomer died, Buddy got me through. He always has.
    I'm not handling it well at all. Trust me on that one.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Just reading the morning news and found this
    Rescued dog found frozen to ground - KTVU -

    It's just beyond belief the cruelty that humans are capable of.
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      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Just reading the morning news and found this
      Rescued dog found frozen to ground - KTVU -

      It's just beyond belief the cruelty that humans are capable of.
      Unimaginable cruelty!

      I watched this last week on the local news as it unfolded and I cried. When hubby came into the family room, he asked me what the matter was and I pointed to the television.

      He got angry and called the owners a few choice words, then looked over at me. He's a mind reader I tell ya.

      He then said, No, Honey, you want a small, little puppy, remember?


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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        That broke my heart. Has the dog survived?
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          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          That broke my heart. Has the dog survived?

          Yes, but she may lose a leg.


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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            If it's only one leg, she can overcome that easily. She looks so much like my Sheba - one of the gentlest dogs I've ever had.
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              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

              If it's only one leg, she can overcome that easily. She looks so much like my Sheba - one of the gentlest dogs I've ever had.
              They are saying she'll likely only lose one leg and if it helps at all, the owner is being charged with felony animal cruelty.


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                Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                They are saying she'll likely only lose one leg and if it helps at all, the owner is being charged with felony animal cruelty.


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                That helps a lot, Terra. I can't remember what state it is, but I saw someplace they just made it an arrestable crime to not take animals in when temps get to a certain point. If that doesn't start to send the message, I'm not sure what will. I hope the rest of the states adopt the same law. This crap has gotten out of control.
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                • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                  This crap has gotten out of control.
                  It's been out of control. What is completely unacceptable is we know so much more about animals now - about how they socialize and what they need to survive and to be comfortable.

                  There is no reason for people to be stupidly cruel now unless are, in fact, stupid and cruel. The "I didn't know" excuse doesn't fly these days.
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                    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                    It's been out of control. What is completely unacceptable is we know so much more about animals now - about how they socialize and what they need to survive and to be comfortable.

                    There is no reason for people to be stupidly cruel now unless are, in fact, stupid and cruel. The "I didn't know" excuse doesn't fly these days.
                    I agree. That case wasn't "I didn't know." There isn't any possible excuse that I could see for a dog to be chained so that it cannot reach it's food and water and has enough time with no one noticing anything amiss, to freeze to the ground. Jail is where they belong.
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                      Hell is where they belong.
                      Fixed that for you.

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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Cruel and stupid: "Oh it's a chow mix, it likes cold weather."

    Every dog has what I call it's shiver point, and every owner
    of a dog that likes to stay outside should learn when it's too cold
    for that particular dog and pay attention to the weather.

    Factor in the breed, skin, coat, whether it's moving or not, wind chill, humidity,
    snow crystals irritating the paws...

    I almost got into a fist fight with this guy who would not put his
    dog inside after I nicely pointed out that it was shivering. The dog is
    a Labrador and it was in front of the bar lying down an wooden bench.
    Temp was only about 45 degrees, but the dog was not moving around and
    the cooler air was circulating around his body.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      My Gracie is a pit and she wears her coat outside here every time the temp is under 30 degrees. She LOVES the snow and loves her plaid coat.

      She's a dog from the deep south and animals there don't get winter coats. People there are often too dumb to realize that so in cold snaps, animals suffer.
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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        My Gracie is a pit and she wears her coat outside here every time the temp is under 30 degrees. She LOVES the snow and loves her plaid coat.

        She's a dog from the deep south and animals there don't get winter coats. People there are often too dumb to realize that so in cold snaps, animals suffer.
        I was surprised to see Walker wanting to come back in after his walk pretty quickly. It is bitter cold here right now and he has quickly taken a liking to the fireplace and warmth of our house.

        Glad to see the owner charged with a felony. That is just uncomprehensible to me.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          We had such bitter cold last week - and our Black Lab scared us. He weighs about 110-120 - he's huge and deep chested. The 3 dogs were out just for 15 minutes or so and had been running and playing. I noticed Rocky (lab) laying down in the snow, then getting up and walking a few steps and laying down again. He was way out near the back of the fenced area.

          I realized something wasn't right - we went out and helped the dog back in. He was hacking and spitting up and seemed to feel bad for hours but was fine the next day. We think the below 0 weather was hurting his lungs because he was running and breathing deeply. It's the only explanation that makes sense.

          I'm going to take some photos to show you guys one of these days!
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          • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
            people can be so cruel -
            it has been so bitterly cold here that I believe the feral cats in the neighbourhood may have not survived - it makes me sad when people get pets and then can't take care of them and instead of finding homes for them - they just abandon them
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Pits and pit mixes are not my first choice of breed, but I recently had to help
    someone take care of her pit mix (I think there might be some hound dog in him)
    for a couple of days.

    After I walked him, fed him, and gave him some pets, he is just like one big
    tail wag when he sees me. Might be sold on this one if he needs a new home. LOL
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Update on Elsa:

      She is coming along great in her healing and is walking on all fours! No lost leg thus far.

      She'll stay at the shelter to continue mending but won't be available for adoption until she's completely healed and something about the charges on the owner. Conviction, perhaps?

      Sorry, I missed that part.


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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    That's great news. I'm glad she hasn't lost a leg and hope they get her squared away and adopted out to someone who will take care of her soon.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I expect they have to convict the owner in order to take away ownership of the dog? Hope it moves quickly so the animal doesn't have to stay in a shelter for months and months.

      Good news about the leg! I'm sure she's getting great care - but what she needs is a forever home and to be spoiled rotten.
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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        I expect they have to convict the owner in order to take away ownership of the dog? Hope it moves quickly so the animal doesn't have to stay in a shelter for months and months.

        Good news about the leg! I'm sure she's getting great care - but what she needs is a forever home and to be spoiled rotten.
        All I can say to that is,

        Amen, sister! Lol!


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