Buy another Macbook Pro or Windows Laptop?

6 years ago

Originally Posted by mrdeflation

Lets say you have 2k to spend on a laptop...

do you get a macbook pro or windows laptop?

why?

You could buy 4 decent Windows laptops for 2k. I got an I5 HP 17 inch for $399.00 in last years sales. I think a slightly upgraded version is around $499.00. Windows 8.1 is slick and stable operating system now. The machine is fast enough too.If you subscribe to the Mcaffe Antivirus service which was free for 3 months you will be pretty much free of any virus or ad-ware. I have had no problems. One purchase and you can use it on as many machines as you want to.

If your doing IM then bear in mind that still most software sold runs on Windows, not Mac, you would have to buy emulator software and windows to get it to run. Most software is still for PC, even these days

Sure Mac is well made, looks great but is way overpriced for what it is and does.

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ajacobs 123

6 years ago

I bought my macbook about 6 months ago, and I hate it, yet love it. I would go for one of the beefed up macbook airs offered as refurbs from apple. I love some features of it, but it is very slow to load a browser, and even worst ever since I opted for the OS X Yosemite update. Also, as lanfear63 pointed out, I still have to go back to my windows laptop sometimes, because most programs are built around the windows platform, and are not mac friendly.I have considered putting this one on eBay, and just getting a better computer.

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MikeAmbrosio

6 years ago

What would be your primary use for it?

I use Windows and have for many years. I don't own a Mac but have used many and what many people have said is when you work with graphics, audio, video, etc. Mac is the way to go. I would have to agree.

The only video I work with are typically Camtasia Screen captures, so my Windows is fine for that.

You'll get the usual Apple fan responses about how Macs don't crash, etc. But they do

If your focus has little to do with video and graphic work, you'll get WAY more bang for the buck with Windows.

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BigFrank

Banned 6 years ago

Originally Posted by mrdeflation

do you get a macbook pro or windows laptop?

Any Mac over any PC.

why?

Because you only live once, and you should feel that you always deserve the best in life.

Cheers. - Frank

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WalkingCarpet

Banned 6 years ago

I have used Windows all my life and been always pissed off that I have to get the software separately for it.
So I would bet a Macbook just for the heck of it.

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mrdeflation

6 years ago

Is there a comparable Windows laptop (spec wise) to an Apple Macbook Pro?

Seems apple blows away windows in terms of everything - from weight, graphics, speed, reliability, etc for the same money

I feel I must be missing something though..

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lanfear63 6 years ago

A high end, well built PC Laptop with backlit keyboard will still come in at under $1000.00 and blow the Mac out of the water spec wise. Hit Bestbuy or somwhere and take a look.

Apart from a sliver of an edge on graphic design and multimedia (My Wife's a Professional Graphic Designer and has a Mac) It really is just a status symbol thing. Designer good looks, that's all!

But, Windows really has caught up. If you had said this to me in 2008 when Windows Vista was around I would have had to admit that Mac was more stable. Not anymore.

And don't listen to Big Frank, he has Apple Shares.
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- BigFrank Banned 6 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by lanfear63
  
  And don't listen to Big Frank, he has Apple Shares.
  
  Well, at least your post wasn't totally wrong. :-)
  
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TeKn1qu3z

6 years ago

Originally Posted by mrdeflation

Is there a comparable Windows laptop (spec wise) to an Apple Macbook Pro?

Seems apple blows away windows in terms of everything - from weight, graphics, speed, reliability, etc for the same money

I feel I must be missing something though..

Applications are run on macbook while you can't on windows. There are some differences that you will observe if you check them closely.
Can you tell us for what purpose you need laptop or Macbook?
I never had a Macbook and still using Laptop with windows.

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mrdeflation

6 years ago

Originally Posted by TeKn1qu3z

Applications are run on macbook while you can't on windows. There are some differences that you will observe if you check them closely.
Can you tell us for what purpose you need laptop or Macbook?
I never had a Macbook and still using Laptop with windows.

see thats the thing.. I am a windows guy.. my wife is an appl woman..

I am trying to show her how a windows laptop for 1/2 the price is better than dropping 2k on another macbook again.

She loves everything about it except its weight and how hot it gets... but for her use I cannot convince her otherwise.

Has a online coaching/consultation business, uses web cam, mic, has to read and create pdf's, doc files, answer 100's of emails per day, social media marketing, type in the dark, and needs a long battery life..

ideas? thoughts?

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BigFrank Banned 6 years ago

Originally Posted by mrdeflation

see thats the thing.. I am a windows guy.. my wife is an appl woman..

ideas? thoughts?

I guess it all comes down to whether or not the additional expense is a small price to pay to save the marriage. :-)

Cheers. - Frank
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- mrdeflation 6 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by BigFrank
  
  I guess it all comes down to whether or not the additional expense is a small price to pay to save the marriage. :-)
  
  Cheers. - Frank
  
  happy wife.. happy life =-)
  
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  WalkingCarpet Banned 6 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by mrdeflation
  
  happy wife.. happy life =-)
  
  I don't need no macbook to make a woman happy.
  
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lanfear63 6 years ago

Not much in the way of graphic design then? I would not call what you said as stretching the machine to it's limits and as you know, a PC laptop can handle all that.

Your first problem is she is used to it and likes it, that's a hurdle in itself. You need to show her a latest and greatest PC laptop to compare. Show her how easy it is to do the same stuff. Have you got one yourself?

Funnily enough, I have a 65 year old art professor lady friend who is sold on Mac despite having problems with it, mainly having slow internet and a lack of knowledge, however, she is doing similar stuff to your wife.

She wants a new Mac too and wants to sink 2000 bucks into getting one. Thinks all her problems will go away.

Consider this though, unless your wife is travelling a lot, what the hell is she doing sitting cowering over a laptop doing this stuff anyway, even using the pad and not a mouse perhaps?.

I have a full size PC and big monitor and sit up to a proper desk. I have a laptop but would never even consider doing serious work on it. I use the PC for the intensive productivity. I have never understood that mentality that a laptop is comfortable to use for long periods.

If she travels then she should just use an ok laptop as a stop gap. At home, use the big machine.

Now if you can convince her of that you can get an all in one desktop mac for cheaper than a Laptop version. Or a seriously good and fast PC with a big screen for even cheaper.
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BigFrank

Banned 6 years ago

Originally Posted by mrdeflation

I feel I must be missing something though..

That would be the orgasmic joy of owning the Rolls-Royce of computers.

As they say, "Once you go Mac, you will never go back." :-)

Cheers. - Frank

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MikeAmbrosio

6 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

That would be the orgasmic joy of owning the Rolls-Royce of computers.

As they say, "Once you go Mac, you will never go back." :-)

Cheers. - Frank

Spoken like a true "fanboy"

I went Mac once, briefly. I went back

Every time I have used Macs, they work just fine. I just never understood what all the fuss is about. It's a computer. A much more expensive one.

I guess it's personal preference.

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BigFrank

Banned 6 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio

It's a computer.

Well, I have learned that if that's all it is to you, then you will never truly understand the intense personal relationship between man and machine that brings inspiration, empowerment, motivation, fulfillment and enjoyment to those that truly love the Mac experience.

Of course, you are correct. If you are using a PC it is nothing more than 'a computer.'

To each his own. :-)

Cheers. - Frank

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MikeAmbrosio

6 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Well, I have learned that if that's all it is to you, then you will never truly understand the intense personal relationship between man and machine that brings inspiration, empowerment, motivation, fulfillment and enjoyment to those that truly love the Mac experience.

Of course, you are correct. If you are using a PC it is nothing more than 'a computer.'

To each his own. :-)

Cheers. - Frank

Actually, I DO understand this very thing - but with my Harley. And my drums.

A computer (to me) is a tool. Which explains it I guess. I don't go "gaga" over any tools...

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BigFrank

Banned 6 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio

Actually, I DO understand this very thing - but with my Harley.

Harley? Really? Talk about a Fan Boy mentality. :-)

A computer (to me) is a tool. Which explains it I guess.

It most certainly does.

I don't go "gaga" over any tools...

A drum set is not just a tool used to produce a beat? I guess I'm missing something. From where I sit if you've heard one set of drums, you've basically heard them all.

Infuriating isn't it, when someone demeans your perception of something that's important to you? lol

Cheers. - Frank

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MikeAmbrosio

6 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Harley? Really? Talk about a Fan Boy mentality. :-)

Yeah, but at least it's for something that actually gets you out of the house...

Actually it's not a really "fanboy" thing for me. I have owned, would not mind owning, nor do I cut down others who ride, say, Suzuki's (my last 2 bikes were Suzukis). Most Apple fanboys I have come across are way worse than Harley owners. I know a lot of both...trust me on this

Originally Posted by BigFrank

It most certainly does.
A drum set is not just a tool used to produce a beat? I guess I'm missing something. From where I sit if you've heard one set of drums, you've basically heard them all.

Years ago I worked with a guy who used to say that a drummer was nothing more than that guy who sits at the back of the band keeping time. He played the tuba...which to me is the same thing but for the brass section... haha.

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Infuriating isn't it, when someone demeans your perception of something that's important to you? lol

Cheers. - Frank

Actually, it's not infuriating at all. To each their own. If you were infuriated about what I said about Macs, well, sorry I guess...lol.

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BigFrank

Banned 6 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio

Yeah, but at least it's for something that actually gets you out of the house...

I rode and raced bikes for a decade. I got out of the house, plenty. Because of where I now live, I truly have no desire or actual good reason to leave the house.

Actually it's not a really "fanboy" thing for me. I have owned, would not mind owning, nor do I cut down others who ride, say, Suzuki's (my last 2 bikes were Suzukis). Most Apple fanboys I have come across are way worse than Harley owners. I know a lot of both...trust me on this

Well, I don't really put down those that ride Harleys, although most Harley riders I know are more into the image they attempt to portray than their love of motorcycling. I will admit to feeling just a wee-bit sorry for them if they have never ridden a Triumph, BSA, Norton or Ducati for any extended period on a tightly-twisted country road. Those would be motorcycle Macs while the Harley would be the PC of bikes. lol

Years ago I worked with a guy who used to say that a drummer was nothing more than that guy who sits at the back of the band keeping time. He played the tuba...which to me is the same thing but for the brass section... haha.

I made no such reference to 'drummers." I was referring to the drum kit. Just a tool - no matter how you look at it.

Actually, it's not infuriating at all. To each their own. If you were infuriated about what I said about Macs, well, sorry I guess...lol.

Well, I was going to change that word as infuriating was way too strong. I think what I do find disappointing is my inability to get people to see the tragic results of living in a bland, uninteresting space, shackled to such an uninspiring box. I'm simply looking to make the world a better place for all. :-)

Cheers. - Frank

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MikeAmbrosio

6 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

I rode and raced bikes for a decade. I got out of the house, plenty. Because of where I now live, I truly have no desire or actual good reason to leave the house.
Well, I don't really put down those that ride Harleys, although most Harley riders I know are more into the image they attempt to portray than their love of motorcycling. I will admit to feeling just a wee-bit sorry for them if they have never ridden a Triumph, BSA, Norton or Ducati for any extended period on a tightly-twisted country road. Those would be motorcycle Macs while the Harley would be the PC of bikes. lol
I made no such reference to 'drummers." I was referring to the drum kit. Just a tool - no matter how you look at it.
Well, I was going to change that word as infuriating was way too strong. I think what I do find disappointing is my inability to get people to see the tragic results of living in a bland, uninteresting space, shackled to such an uninspiring box. I'm simply looking to make the world a better place for all. :-)

Cheers. - Frank

I have run into Harley owners who, when I owned my Suzuki, would literally snub any attempt at conversation. I called them Harley Snobs. Plenty of them around...

I want a Triumph. I may get one next year as a second bike.

Yeah, I know you weren't disparaging drummers. I just like that little story... To answer that, I never looked at my drums as a tool. That's because I think of a tool as something that is used to help complete a task, or something you use for work. Since I don't drum for a living, play with any other musicians, etc., it's not a tool to me. It's a toy

Although, sometimes I get a good workout from playing.

"Uninspiring box". Interesting way to look at any computer. They are all uninspiring to me

My step daughter has a Dell Ultrabook and a Macbook. When you close them, they both have a similar look. She likes them both. Neither one give her any issues. They each have their purpose for her. She DOES use the Macbook about twice as much though...

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MikeAmbrosio

6 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

I rode and raced bikes for a decade. I got out of the house, plenty. Because of where I now live, I truly have no desire or actual good reason to leave the house.
Well, I don't really put down those that ride Harleys, although most Harley riders I know are more into the image they attempt to portray than their love of motorcycling. I will admit to feeling just a wee-bit sorry for them if they have never ridden a Triumph, BSA, Norton or Ducati for any extended period on a tightly-twisted country road. Those would be motorcycle Macs while the Harley would be the PC of bikes. lol
I made no such reference to 'drummers." I was referring to the drum kit. Just a tool - no matter how you look at it.
Well, I was going to change that word as infuriating was way too strong. I think what I do find disappointing is my inability to get people to see the tragic results of living in a bland, uninteresting space, shackled to such an uninspiring box. I'm simply looking to make the world a better place for all. :-)

Cheers. - Frank

I never raced bikes, but when I was young and in the Navy I used to get drunk and ride my Suzuki. I called it the ultimate video game.

Yeah - pretty dumb...

I have run into Harley owners who, when I owned my Suzuki, would literally snub any attempt at conversation. I called them Harley Snobs. Plenty of them around...

I want a Triumph. I may get one next year as a second bike.

Yeah, I know you weren't disparaging drummers. I just like that little story... To answer that, I never looked at my drums as a tool. That's because I think of a tool as something that is used to help complete a task, or something you use for work. Since I don't drum for a living, play with any other musicians, etc., it's not a tool to me. It's a toy

Although, sometimes I get a good workout from playing.

"Uninspiring box". Interesting way to look at any computer. They are all uninspiring to me

My step daughter has a Dell Ultrabook and a Macbook. When you close them, they both have a similar look. She likes them both. Neither one give her any issues. They each have their purpose for her. She DOES use the Macbook about twice as much though...

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BigFrank

Banned 6 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio

I never raced bikes, but when I was young and in the Navy I used to get drunk and ride my Suzuki. I called it the ultimate video game.

Yeah - pretty dumb...

We've all made that dumb mistake. Part of growing up. In the early 70's I was the sales manager at Triumph of Philadelphia. I sold bikes to a lot of my friends. One of them got drunk and killed himself and the other took drugs and killed himself, both on the bikes that I had sold them. I fully realize that it was their decision and their mistake, but the fact haunts me to this day. Then I start to think about how many guys that I sold bikes to that I didn't know personally, that possibly suffered the same fate. It's funny what stays at the surface of our memories over the decades.

I have run into Harley owners who, when I owned my Suzuki, would literally snub any attempt at conversation. I called them Harley Snobs. Plenty of them around...

lol Yeah, that's part of the 'Macho Biker' persona I was referring to. Being the shortest guy in my crowd, whenever we would encounter a bunch of wannabes, I would be the one to inform them that unless they were willing to share their woman (mama) with us, they weren't really 'bikers." Man, they hated that, but it was always good for a laugh - especially since none of them could catch us.

I want a Triumph. I may get one next year as a second bike.

Go classic. Either a '68 Bonneville or a 72' Trident. Two of the sweetest rides ever produced. The Trident is a three-cylinder machine with each one 120º out of phase. A smoother power curve does not exist on two wheels.

BTW - Triumph of Philadelphia was the first Kawasaki dealer on the east coast. You talk about snobs. We hated them bikes and the mechanics loathed working on them. (I think we just hated how fast they were, as 'fast' is never the most important thing about biking). Plus, we ridiculed those 2-stroke lawnmower engines. Horrid pieces of junk, they were. Every time I sold one I felt as if I had committed a sin against the natural order of the universe. :-)

Yeah, I know you weren't disparaging drummers. I just like that little story... To answer that, I never looked at my drums as a tool. That's because I think of a tool as something that is used to help complete a task, or something you use for work. Since I don't drum for a living, play with any other musicians, etc., it's not a tool to me. It's a toy

Although, sometimes I get a good workout from playing.

I see your point, but for most drummers - it's a tool and that's not disparaging the drums, either. A paint brush is a tool when it's parked on a palette, but when held by an artist it can become a magic wand. :-)

"Uninspiring box". Interesting way to look at any computer. They are all uninspiring to me

Well, I certainly hope that never happens to me. I think the problem may be in the fact that you are used to buying a computer that is not very expensive. When you sit in front of a $12K computer system that you're leasing or making CC payments on, trust me - you tend to get very inspired, and motivated, and creative and most importantly productive. I'm quite serious.

My step daughter has a Dell Ultrabook and a Macbook. When you close them, they both have a similar look. She likes them both. Neither one give her any issues. They each have their purpose for her. She DOES use the Macbook about twice as much though...

Ask her which she'd choose if she could only keep one. :-)

A pleasure chatting with you.

Cheers. - Frank

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BigFrank Banned 6 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio

Spoken like a true "fanboy"

Gee - I didn't see that coming.

I went Mac once, briefly. I went back

The first time I ate asparagus I thought it was OK, but I didn't understand the fuss. It took a while to register.

Every time I have used Macs, they work just fine. I just never understood what all the fuss is about. It's a computer. A much more expensive one.

Much more expensive. The most persistent myth in computerdom.

I guess it's personal preference.

Uh, ya' think? Last time I checked, no one puts a gun to your head in making your decision. lol

Cheers. - Mr. Fan Boy
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quinng123

6 years ago

It really depends on what you are going to use it for.

Mac- for creative and entertainment purposes

PC- for IM

I have both and Macs are for more efficient in terms of my creative projects and ease of use. I can also use VPS when necessary

PC has tons of features and is the default for IM tools

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We Sell Sunglasses 6 years ago

Originally Posted by quinng123

It really depends on what you are going to use it for.

Mac- for creative and entertainment purposes

PC- for IM

Hogwash. I use a Macbook Air for everything IM related including rendering gig after gig of video. I would never go back to using a PC and I don't think too many people who've actually used a Mac would either.
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vne5

6 years ago

If you are considering doing anything graphics wise (photo editing, CGI, video production, etc.), go with a macbook pro. However, I don't think you can get a new macbook pro for 2k. I purchased a late 2013 macbook pro about 8 months ago and wouldn't trade it for any PC.

The people complaining or having slow internet problems probably have a hard drive maxed out. My wife has a brand new, high end PC and my mac will run circles around it. not to mention, I haven't seen a "error" message since owning macs since 2009 and my first was a used, early 2008 macbook pro.

Although I can't ever see myself going back to anything windows, I have noticed a few flaws since Mr. Jobs passed away. Just my .02

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butters

6 years ago

I got an iMac, here's my oppinion. It depends if you want to spend the money, I bought an iMac for a reasonable sum of money but after 3 years it hasn't got sluggish yet, I generally find when I use my windows laptops they are sluggish. Yes spec wise you should get a windows laptop but unless your doing serious gaming then it's not really that good of a point. Most editors will use a Mac, I can't figure out why myself but that seems to be what they use. I got my iMac because it looked nice in the house and only one wire

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Jeff Gilbert

6 years ago

When people are paying $2,000 for a laptop, windows or mac, you have to ask yourself, why? In a world where you can get a great windows laptop for $500 in this time and space, because everybody is crazy buying tablets.

Here's what I suggest. You've owned the mac, you've had that experience. Get the windows laptop. Just get it with Windows 7. You're getting a false view of windows if your first introduction to it Windows 8. If you look at Newegg or Tigerdirect, they will still have laptops with Windows 7. So, you try it. If after the first 28 days you really hate it, you can always send it back and spend $2,000(!!!!) on a mac laptop.

The only time when you spend $2,000 on a laptop is if you're using your laptop as a music production computer, you're doing super advanced gaming, or your using your laptop as a professional graphics studio, and you're rendering video. (Although everyone would do that on a desktop). But I'm just saying. If you're just going to wordprocess, surf the web and hang out on the web, that's WAY too much money for a laptop. No matter who makes it.

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