Smokers, beware...

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Now I can see both sides to this. The HOA of this little subdivision technically owns all the homes, and they are all apparently multi-family units. They are trying to keep the stink down in homes that they will probably resell. So i can see that point.

However, I can also see the homeowners point. If i purchased this home and tobacco is a legal product, i should be able to smoke in my house.


I quit smoking a while ago, and personally i think tobacco should be outlawed. But until it is, this kind of stuff sounds unfair for people who are doing nothing illegal and are in their own homes.
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  • Heh...just heard this on Rush today.
    The funny part is that they banned it INSIDE one's home, but its still allowed on patios/porches.
    Given the fact that this is Wisconsin and nobody in their right mind would have their windows open w/ the possible exception of 2-3 months out of the year, what scenario would be more likely to offend the neighbors w/ second hand smoke....smoking inside your home, or smoking outside on your patio? Duh...

    And while this stupid law is going on, Obama is smoking outside on the WhiteHouse grounds...hmmmm, yah that makes sense.
  • I really don't understand radical moves but this one can make me smile. Tobacco companies are losing their power, aren't they?
  • Like i said, i dont know why tobacco is still legal other than the obvious reason of lobbyists. There isnt anything else in this country with the history of causing so much death that we allow to be sold.
  • I'm also an ex smoker. But, I think tobacco should be legal. People should decide what they put into their bodies, not the government.

    Also, if a smoker moved in BEFORE the new rules, they should be allowed to smoke. I don't believe something like this should be retroactive...Not to mention, what a person does in their own home is no one's business.
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    • Do you also think that all drugs should be legal? coke, crack, meth..etc.?
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    • So why do you deny ME that right!?!?!? If you want TOBACCO! FINE! Chew and swallow! HECK, soak it in DMSO and paint it on your skin!

      Steve
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  • Yep. With regulatons and taxation. I'd rather have the money go to our governement to be used on drug rehab programs that to the street gangs and drug cartels, with me footing the bill for prisons and drug treatment. Let the heroine addicts pay for their own rehab through taxation.

    BTW, when they were legal, very few people used them. In pre 1920, they were known as vices, not crimes.

    And if you did some research, you'd see that the usage of legal drugs after prohibition has greatly decreased since, but the usage of illegal drugs has greatly risen. The "theory" that making drugs legal increases usage goes totally againsst the historical FACTS.

    Using the taxes collected from tabacco and alchohol for public education has helped decrease their usage greatly...In the 30's, over 70% of people smoked and over 70% drank. Now it's down to about 20% for each. Let's learn from history and the REAL facts.
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  • They just passed a law that will regulate the poisons that they put in tobacco. Why bother if we aren't allowed to smoke. If I bought a home and then was told I couldn't smoke in it after I bought it, I would sue for the price of the home. I'd want out of the deal completely. People don't buy homes so someone else can tell them how to live in them. What next? Will someone be coming in to make sure we are raising our kids according to some policy or watching us have sex to make sure we don't violate any rules? Telling people how to live in their own homes goes way too far and once there are laws allowing them to restrict one behavior - let's see what the next one is.
    Who is going to be the one monitoring these homes to make sure people aren't smoking in them anyway? Are they allowed to just barge in if they suspect something or will they have to have search warrants? Will they be snooping through the trash or looking in your windows? This whole country is going regulation crazy. Let people live how they want to for cripes sakes - it used to be nobody's business but their own if they killed themselves or not. It still should be.
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    • It's why I won't buy in an area where there is HOA control - too many busybodies and control freaks in some of those associations.

      If you think about tobacco as a business, it's funny. Subsidies to tobacco farmers, huge taxes on finished products, companies paying billions in lawsuits, millions to be made on anti-smoking products, billions in health care costs. If it all disappeared, might it tip the economy over the brink?

      And somewhere at the bottom of the heap of this huge money pit is a little guy just trying to have a smoke.

      kay
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  • Frankly, I think smoking is a disgusting, dangerous and deadly addiction. I want nothing to do with and I don't want to be around it at all. Now, anybody who wants to give me grief might as well save your breath. Until you spend time caring for a dying loved one (emphysema)...well, I just don't even want to hear it.

    Now, having said that. I deplore HOAs. My property is my own. Nobody should have the authority to restrict activities when someone is living lawfully in their own dwelling.

    While I have no desire to smoke in my home, I will fight for the right to do so. It's my property. My choice.

    Oh, did I mention that I detest HOAs?

    Cindy
  • I agree with MizzCindy!
  • I totally agree with you with this one. I am a smoker, and whatever I do inside my own house is none of their business. It's not that smoking can be compared to smoking joints. Thanks for sharing
  • Hey there that is plain rude. I think that if people cannot get over the fact that we breath air that is just as bad as the smoke then we got social issues. God people got the stick so far up their crack that they cannot even walk.

    Thanks,
    Dave
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  • I don't see why they don't legalize more stuff. Maybe not meth, crack, or heroin : ) but Pot for sure, I've never seen anyone want to go crazy and kill people while they were high, but alcohol kills people who don't even drink.

    Yeah, smoking anything is bad for your health, but the key operative word is YOUR. and if it's YOUR house, and YOUR body, and YOUR yard, maybe YOU are paying taxes to use the air for the small amount of time it is passing through YOUR airspace.

    Choosing to pollute it is moraly irresponsible, but heck, every time we drive we do the same thing.
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    • One of the dangers of the Obmanation health care plan is that once they get it passed they will want to use it as a way to control our lives in ways people might never have imagined (unless you're Michael M )

      Any substance that the government declares as unhealthful and will impact health care costs would be easy prey for these morons.

      Big Macs? Forget 'em. Cigarettes? Gone.

      You name it, and unless some PAC is lining the pockets of our legislators all we'll be eating will be government cheese on our tofu.

      For the life of me I can't figure out how my generation (early boomers) ever lived to be as old as we are now that the lawyers have proved every dollar that doesn't go into their pockets is dollar for death.

      Government running our health care system? I'm hard pressed to find anything more repulsive.

      KJ
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  • damn him from saving us from our own stupidity
  • Perhaps if the powers that be didn't cram this country full of people and build over the open spaces, we would be more inclined to do positive things instead of drinking, smoking and eating.
    Don't blame it all on the individual, this problem is a product of profit making.
  • At least government have a good purposed for our own healht:rolleyes:
  • At least government have a good purposed for our own health:rolleyes:
  • Hey Motley,

    Thanks for the info, I will definitely pass it to my friends who are smokers. I hope it will make them quit smoking.
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  • I just feel that why government is trying to stop smoking form the user end. This is not the right way to stop smokers to stop smoking. Buy passing this kind of rules the tobacco company, wholesale and the retailers are not going to loose anything. The government should ban the manufacturing and the sales the of tobacco. This would be the right way and why they are doing the same.
  • Pretty soon a person won't be able to smoke even in their own car.

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