Starbucks and "Race Together"

Unfortunately, Seasoned IS a fan of Mr. Limbaugh.

I doubt racism in in our genetics, I think its taught more than anything else.

I agree with your last sentence and another equally big disservice are the people trying to deny the existence of it and/or its effects.

I actually don't drink much coffee when I travel. Just a couple of cups with my meals. Locally (and I use that term loosely) I always go to Stewarts. I don't have anything against Starbucks, just never been in one.

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Joe a lot of this stuff I agree with. I think 'victomhood' is a huge business for a number of people.

People make huge livings off ' victimhood '

Also 'identity politics' is a scary notion. College Educated women voting for Barack Obama based on the one fact that he would push govt subsidized contraceptives. I voted for him but for several reasons

But here is the thing that bothers me. The young woman, the second one speaking was talking about how women are strong and that they do not need to play the victim had me going until she said..."women standing around and staying married to people like Bill Clinton who does these horrible things to you and embarrasses you etc "

its like whoa where did that come from ?

And why ? Why does she have to get into attacking and bi-partisan politics and throw this in the there?

She is so much more intelligent than that ( at least she seems to be)

Yes, I agree with her I think Militant feminizing is a very narrow way to view and act in the World around you. It limits an individual so much

But then why go into the personal attack mode.

Its just a huge turnoff for me. And takes away her credibility. Don't these people see this ?

Thats why I can't stand hardcore Conservatives and hardcore liberals.
They can both kiss my a$$

And I have beliefs that might fall under both

But they are too emotional and extremely biased towards concepts which are unfortunately hardwired into their Minds without little to any wiggle room

People need to have wiggle room and start thinking for themselves and not let their emotions think for them

Here's the difference Steve. All I had to do was cut my hair, shave and ride a different type of motorcycle to end the profiling and harassment.

I understand that - all I was pointing out is that it doesn't matter what color the predominate power group is, they will enslave people if they can. Here in the US it was predominantly whites enslaving blacks - because it was blacks that were available. The slave traders (predominantly Islams) bought blacks from other blacks who captured them for trade from Africa. Here it was whites that bought them because the US was predominantly white at the time, and subsequently, the power group. Had the Natives realized what was coming down, they might have turned the tables on us and we'd have been a nation of Natives owning white slaves.

My whole point was that - it doesn't matter what color a power group is, they will abuse other groups when they have the opportunity to do so. I in no way was trying to lessen what happened here, or the fact that whites were mostly the guilty party. I was just stating that it's not a "white" issue generally, it's a "power" issue predominantly. Right now we still have issues globally with female slavery, and human trafficking that includes all colors of wealthy. It's what people do generally because people aren't nearly as kewl as they want to believe they are. About all we can do is resist any propaganda that tries to tear us into factions and work to be better humans than the present enslavers our ancestors were.

Phfft who cares?? I want to know the juicier stuff. Given Steve's claims, which one of these guys before Obama was passing for white and really was a brother. Can you spot the hair relaxant?


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They WEREN'T completely oppressed and segregated! Many states did NOT allow slavery! MOST of the people that ran for office were WHITE! And MOST of the people that dictated what people do, at least today, were NOT kings or queens or presidents! Does the queen of Britain really dictate ANYTHING of note today? The president doesn't. Prime ministers don't.

As for the HIGHEST position in britain, meaning the king/queen, apparently there HAS been some hispanic history there. I don't know about black, but I don't think so. But HEY, that IS the royal family! You know how such things work, right?
NOW, as to WOMEN in great britain that were in power? HERE are a few:

1919 - First female MP to sit in Parliament, Nacy Astor

1979 - First female prime minister, Margaret Thatcher

1982 - First female leader of the House of Lords, Baroness Janet mary Young

1992 - First female Speaker of the House of Commons, Betty Boothroyd

2006 - The first Lord Speaker, Baroness Hayman.

Here is a snippet about MINORITIES in UK parliament

Minority ethnic Members of Parliament (Sept 2013)
Name Constituency Party
1 Abbott Diane Hackney North & Stoke Newington Labour
2 Afriyie Adam Windsor Conservative
3 Ali Rushanara Bethnal Green & Bow Labour
4 Chishti Rehman Gillingham & Rainham Conservative
5 Grant Helen Maidstone Conservative
6 Gyimah Sam East Surrey Conservative
7 Hendrick Mark Preston Labour
8 Javid Sajid Bromsgrove Conservative
9 Khan Sadiq Tooting Labour
10 Kwarteng Kwasi Spelthorne Conservative
11 Lammy David Tottenham Labour
12 Mahmood Khalid Birmingham, Perry Barr Labour
13 Mahmood Shabana Birmingham Ladywood Labour
14 Malhotra Seema Feltham & Heston Labour
15 Nandy Lisa Wigan Labour
16 Onwurah Chi Newcastle Central Labour
17 Patel Pritti Witham Conservative
18 Qureshi Yasmin Bolton Labour
19 Sarwar Anas Glasgow Central Labour
20 Sharma Alok Reading West Conservative
21 Sharma Virenda Ealing Southall Labour
22 Ummuna Chuka Streatham Labour
23 Uppal Paul Wolverhampton SW Conservative
24 Vara Shailesh North West Cambridgeshire Conservative
25 Vaz Keith Leicester East Labour
26 Vaz Valerie Walsall Labour
27 Zahawi Nadhim Stratford upon Avon Conservative
2.2 Ethnic minority women in Parliament
Women from ethnic minorities have been particularly under-represented at Westminster.
Prior to 2010, there had only ever been two black female Members and no Asian woman had
ever been elected. The 2010 General Election saw the first Asian women MPs. The total
number of minority ethnic female MPs increased by seven in 2010, and following the
December 2011 by-election in Feltham and Heston the number of minority ethnic female
MPs currently stands at 108.
2.3 The House of Lords
Information for the House of Lords is more difficult to collate, and no definitive list of ethnic
origins exists. In July 2000, The Earl of Listowel asked Her Majesty's Government for a
breakdown of Lords membership by ethnicity. Baroness Jay replied as follows:
This information is not collected at present. In order to collect personal information
such as this, the Information Office of the House of Lords would need the authority of a
domestic sub-committee or the Offices Committee itself. It is for these committees
whether they wish to consider the matter.9
8 2 Conservative and 8 Labour.
9 House of Lords Hansard, 26.07.00, 616 c67WA
6
The first Indian peer and probably the first non-white peer, was Sir Satyendra Sinha, created
Baron Sinha of Raipur, an hereditary peerage, in 1919.10 The first peer of African descent is
widely reported to have been the Trinidadian cricketer and lawyer Learie Constantine,
created Baron Constantine of Maraval and Nelson in 1969.
Based on information from various unofficial sources, including Operation Black Vote, there
are currently 44 minority ethnic members of the House of Lords, 5.4% of the total
membership of 801 peers.11
Ethnic minority Members of the House of Lords by gender and party/group
01 October 2013
Female Male All
Conservative 3 3 6
Labour 3 8 11
Liberal Democrat 4 4 8
Independent 1 5 6
Crossbench 4 8 12
Bishops 1 1
All 15 29 44

SOOOOOOOO SORRY, THEY aren't all white or all male EITHER!

Steve