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Recently members have been especially rude to each other here - the spammers are loose some days - ridiculous posts are the norm in OT. I get that. Ridiculous pranks (always anti-US) are posted daily - and the lewd comments are out of hand at times.

But then - a participating member (i.e., - someone who has tried to help others on this forum rather than only posting 'me, me, me' - asks for help for her much loved pet....and the thread is deleted.

This is a forum that has raised TENS of THOUSANDS of dollars for members in need over the years. Apparently that kind of helpful attitude is out the window here now. I'm disgusted.
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  • I am also not amused with the mean attitudes of some here on the OT as well. Life is far to difficult and far too short to be nasty. That is exactly why perfectly good forums bite the dust and people go elsewhere. Some people just don't get the message to come to this forum and enjoy the "conversations" and have some fun down time.
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    • Yes, l couldn't agree more, one member, (at least at the moment) tends to say very negative things on a regular bases, and says that he was kidding later on!

      It's a pity since he does do some good posts on occasion, but belittling members to boost his ego, isn't on, and will probably lead to more and more members ignoring his posts!

      Individuals like this should go to forums where they allow all out swearing and porn avatar images. He or She would fit right in, and probably not be banned?

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  • Kay, would you mind pm'ing me the pertinent details. I missed the thread.
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    • Info sent, Dan
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    • THANK YOU, DAN!!!!!!! I saw the donation this morning!
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  • Kay,
    is this something to do with Lynn Terry? I know she is grieving about a lost pet - why in the world would such a post be deleted? Hopefully the sins of the Main Forum have not reached the OT.
    bummer,
    --Jack
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  • Really? It got deleted? Oh well, there's always my signature file!

    And THANK YOU SO MUCH Kay for your help!!! I have the GoFundMe link being blasted out on Twitter and Facebook, and added widgets to our blogs too.

    I figure, what comes around, goes around! It's not going to stop me from coming here - there are too many NICE people here - like you - to get too worked up over it.
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  • All I can say is that I hope Allens Vision stays alive and freelancer never gives up on the WF, this place is like my roots. It would be the saddest day on the internet IMO if anything ever happened to the WF. I had a forum, and sold it to a bigger company, thinking they would take it to the next level... Turns out, they didn't know what to do with it, or it's members... It's gone now. I pray that never happens to the WF, and that freelancer can get some traction, figure out their market and what makes this place great... and that SOMEONE in charge will fall in love with this place and really get the vision, love the community, and become altruistic to the forum itself and it's people. Not just see numbers. I hope the best for freelancer. I wish it wasn't about stockholders. The WF cant be treated like a corporation...it is a community of long standing members, and it is meaningful to them. I don't know who is in charge specifically, but I pray for that person to fall in love with it as a community, and not as a financial asset only.
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      Well, dream on. The WF is about numbers in terms of dollars and cents. Many long standing members have left because their ability to make money here has been decimated. Those who have vacated the upstairs for OT are just here to shoot the breeze a little. Both Freelancer and the Members are primarily to here to make a buck and for most, that's no longer happening.

      The only thing determining the length of the WF's life is how long stock holders will be happy with a company that is throwing money at a dying website. Not very long, I would suspect. If you actually think there's some great community thing going on here, other than some friends in OT, you aren't reading enough. At one time that was true, but I'm sure you know as well as anyone, even that community was based on the ability to make money here.
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  • What we see happening is the same thing that happens in real society. You have a well connected community and the people and businesses both bend to help the community thrive. Then the corps start moving in and a new type of people move in with it - and it all goes to crap. I just moved from a town that it is happening to right now and it's tragic at the best.

    We had a few fundraisers. They were members of good standing - Kim and Ken, and even the owner of the forum was behind us and helped us on the cost end of rigging up the WSO's for these members. You are not going to see that anymore. The WF is now corporate and you have to remember that. This is one of the reasons that I hate corporations. They take the humanity out of everything they touch. Some will willfully do harm for profit. They might all do so if they were to get large enough to have the power to swing it.

    Anyway - you are part of a corporation rather than a community now. It's either get with the program or find a new community. Ya know - when people in the area I grew up in retire, they move to Florida to get out of the cold. It's not a surprise that many move to the same town down there. There's nothing stopping us OTers from taking the community elsewhere. There's a site that a lot are already members of and though the owner isn't involved anymore, it's still open, but very rarely do people drop back and post to find out who's still watching. Seems like between all of us in here that there could be a forum to call community again if people are this dissatisfied here.
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    • I'm listening, as are many here I bet.


      Joe Mobley
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    • Some of you may not be aware of this but if you read the rules and terms of service in this forum (last time I looked) they state that actively advertising or promoting another forum is against the rules. Theres nothing to stop you from doing so privately but as I read the rules its not allowed openly on WF forum threads (or sigs).
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  • To be fair, institutional investors generally demand a certain historical share price, like over $5 a share, and they demand a fair percentage to be outstanding and a large amount of stock shares. There are GREAT reasons for that! A stock share of $5 or less is often classed as a penny stock, which means you have fewer options, and more risk. If the partners hold too much, there is too much they can do with it. ALSO, the fund wants their holdings to hold a certain percentage.

    That means it is unlikely that the institutions would be interested. Of course THOSE are good reasons to run ALSO!

    BTW the world is moving more and more to this model, and they were not the first even on the internet. So I think the BIG guys are going to broaden the scope, and freelancer will have less and less of the market share. If memory serves, freelancer is the one that tried to be the DMOZ of the freelancer niche. If true, and they keep up the incentives, they may still get a lot of traffic. eventually IT will wane TOO though. I mean look at DMOZ! A lot of other search engines are now competing, and taking more and more traffic from DMOZ.

    GOOGLE: 1 STEADY
    YAHOO: 5 STEADY
    BING: 23 STEADY
    DMOZ 1782 HEADED LOWER! ~1/2 the traffic of this time last year

    OK, I LEFT ONE OUT!

    FREELANCER 942 HEADED LOWER! ~1/2 the traffic of this time last year. BTW This is the international, to have parity with the others. This is an insignificant point in the other three, but HERE it IS significant. In the US, the ranking is 1983, or over twice as bad as the global.

    DICE in the US has a ranking twice as high as freelancer, and probably fewer "lookiloos"
    MONSTER is 282 in the US. 841 global.

    There are special purpose ones that are closer to freelancer NOW, like:

    angies list 585 in the US 2410 globally.

    Steve
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    • I agree with you in part there, however there are many companies listed on the ASX with strong institutional support that trade for less than $5. Some even trade for less than $1.

      The part about having enough shares available for them to take a stake is correct though, hence my "Avoid" rating because of there only being about 13% of the company's shares (the "free float" I referred to) being available for institutions and individuals to invest in.
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  • You mean not counting the WF OT...
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    this is sad

    Recently members have been especially rude to each other here - the spammers are loose some days - ridiculous posts are the norm in OT. I get that. Ridiculous pranks (always anti-US) are posted daily - and the lewd comments are out of hand at times. But then - a participating member (i.e., - someone who has tried to help others on this forum rather than only posting 'me, me, me' - asks for help for her much loved pet....and the thread is deleted.