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9 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Sad and clueless. Can someone like this actually be helped? Is it wrong to tell them they need to find something else to do with their life? I don't know. I'm just asking.

Cheers. - Frank

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ease-help.html

The fascinating thing to me is that there are people who are offering advice, trying to help.

My ex-wife, from decades ago, recently bought a "Make money online" course from an infomercial. She called me when it arrived and asked; "I just got this course on making money on the internet. I've never been online. So, how do I make money?"

When I told her that it would take at least several months, just to learn how to use a computer, send e-mails, and do an online search (she had no idea what that was) ....she was angry.

"You make money on the computer. Why won't you tell me how to do it?"

Honestly, Every time a word started to form, I just stopped. I knew nothing I would say, would help.

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perryny 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

The fascinating thing to me is that there are people who are offering advice, trying to help.

The only person these people are trying to help are themselves.
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  Thanks you. Sometimes I think I'm a monster for what I feel I should say. :-(
  
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  Dan Riffle 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by BigFrank
  
  Thanks you. Sometimes I think I'm a monster for what I feel I should say. :-(
  
  Cheers. - Frank
  
  We're all monsters down here, Frank.
  
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  BigFrank Banned 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Dan Riffle
  
  We're all monsters down here, Frank.
  
  Well - almost all, anyway. I still maintain that I'm the Mary Poppins of the bunch. lol
  
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  HeySal 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by BigFrank
  
  Well - almost all of, anyway. I still maintain that I'm the Mary Poppins of the bunch. lol
  
  Cheers. - Frank
  
  Oh sure.
  
  Mary - meet Mother Theresa.
  
  I think it's been too long since we've had a humanitarian effort in the OT. Maybe we should set up a day that the OTers will barrage the main forum with truth be told - en force. It might shock the little affiliate, dollar article writers, but it might do them good to see a whole army of people in their right minds about business hit them the same way they hit a lone sane person when they stumble into a thread and try to spread some truth.
  
  Got your parasol handy, Mary?
  
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  MissTerraK 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Dan Riffle
  
  We're all monsters down here, Frank.
  
  Eh-Hem!!
  
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  MikeAmbrosio 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by BigFrank
  
  Thanks you. Sometimes I think I'm a monster for what I feel I should say. :-(
  
  Cheers. - Frank
  
  Sometimes the best thing you can do is be brutally honest. Making money on the internet, or being self employed, etc. is NOT for everyone.
  
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  BigFrank Banned 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio
  
  Sometimes the best thing you can do is be brutally honest. Making money on the internet, or being self employed, etc. is NOT for everyone.
  
  Yes. I did post this in another thread.
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by professorrosado
  Never Give Up!
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  Unless you realize that this type of pursuit is not suited to your skill set, temperament or lifestyle.
  
  If something is not a good fit for you, then giving up is the smartest and most loving thing you can do for yourself.
  
  Introspection is a beautiful and powerful thing.
  
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MikeAmbrosio

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

The fascinating thing to me is that there are people who are offering advice, trying to help.

My ex-wife, from decades ago, recently bought a "Make money online" course from an infomercial. She called me when it arrived and asked; "I just got this course on making money on the internet. I've never been online. So, how do I make money?"

When I told her that it would take at least several months, just to learn how to use a computer, send e-mails, and do an online search (she had no idea what that was) ....she was angry.

"You make money on the computer. Why won't you tell me how to do it?"

Honestly, Every time a word started to form, I just stopped. I knew nothing I would say, would help.

Biggest reason I keep my ex-wife at a very long distance...

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lanfear63

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

The fascinating thing to me is that there are people who are offering advice, trying to help.

My ex-wife, from decades ago, recently bought a "Make money online" course from an infomercial. She called me when it arrived and asked; "I just got this course on making money on the internet. I've never been online. So, how do I make money?"

When I told her that it would take at least several months, just to learn how to use a computer, send e-mails, and do an online search (she had no idea what that was) ....she was angry.

"You make money on the computer. Why won't you tell me how to do it?"

Honestly, Every time a word started to form, I just stopped. I knew nothing I would say, would help.

Extraordinary, buys a make money online course and does not own or know how to switch on a puter? Perhaps she thought on-line was performance tightrope walking?

I have built websites and helped a friend of mine maintain and do stuff related to her business on her various computers for 12 years now (for a fee) She can just about send and receive emails, she still cant copy and paste and surfs the net by typing web addresses into googles search box, not the browser address bar. Her inability to learn just basic stuff is beyond belief.

Another friend who expressed an interest in making money online, owned a mac, surfed the net and sends emails via an online service wanted to join forces, collaborate. I showed him how to do various things, run a simple keyword search using some software, real, patient, I was, step by step instructions. sent him away to come up with single keywords that were highly searched and had low competition. (The software did that) After weeks of gales of free air blowing through my inbox, finally, he was ready to send me something.

Instead of just a few choice keywords he just copied and pasted the entire search results screen. I gave up after that.

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perryny

9 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Sad and clueless. Can someone like this actually be helped?

No.

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Is it wrong to tell them they need to find something else to do with their life?

It would be wrong to believe a word of your advice - any advice - would be heard or accepted.

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sbucciarel

Banned 9 years ago

Helped? No. He's plagiarizing other people's content and asking for advice to monetize a worthless blog. He barely knows any English, so writing his own articles is out of the question.

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Jack Gordon

9 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ease-help.html

oy vey.

Here is one I and others have been trying to get through to. I had to get brutally blunt with him at the very end. People will keep asking the same terrible questions until they get the answer they want to hear.

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...l-product.html

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yukon

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Sad and clueless. Can someone like this actually be helped? Is it wrong to tell them they need to find something else to do with their life? I don't know. I'm just asking.

Cheers. - Frank

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ease-help.html

That's the Freelancer way of driving useless traffic. No IQ required.

The SEO forum is also a mindless crap storm of garbage thanks to Freelancer modding skills.

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Dennis Gaskill

9 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

That's the Freelancer way of driving useless traffic. No IQ required.

The SEO forum is also a mindless crap storm of garbage thanks to Freelancer modding skills.

I just visited the SEO forum for the first time in a long time. When did they add that "overview" of what SEO is at the top? The overview itself looks like an amateur attempt at SEO.

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Cali16 9 years ago

Dennis, looks like they've done that with other subforums as well (not sure when that started).

You'd think a company like Freelancer could at least find a decent writer for these "overviews". The first sentence of the overview for email marketing starts out:

Email marketing is a powerful one to many online marketing strategy...

Social media marketing:

It can be a very effective one to many marketing channel to reach a large group of people.

Um, okay...
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yukon

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

I just visited the SEO forum for the first time in a long time. When did they add that "overview" of what SEO is at the top? The overview itself looks like an amateur attempt at SEO.

Yea, that's an SEO fiverr gig that's been up there for about a month, they struggled with the $5 budget but eventually nailed it. The quality was in the intent, not so much the actual content.

They're currently ranking #35 for the over optimized keyword search engine optimization which brings in well over 3 unique traffic per month from rural India.

Congratulations goes out to the team that made this happen.

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salegurus

9 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Sad and clueless. Can someone like this actually be helped? Is it wrong to tell them they need to find something else to do with their life? I don't know. I'm just asking.

Cheers. - Frank

No and No
No-Mere mortals like us can not help them but luckily the MF is chock full of people with God-like powers of creating wealth from nothing no brain required...

No-They are too lazy to do anything else, they want the life style, be their own boss yada yada

Originally Posted by perryny

The only person these people are trying to help are themselves.

Spot on, that's why no matter how ridiculous the question they will ignore all else just to add their "expert advice" which has made them millions...

Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio

Sometimes the best thing you can do is be brutally honest. Making money on the internet, or being self employed, etc. is NOT for everyone.

It may be the best thing you can do, and i totally agree that IM is not for everyone but post that and you are soon drowned out by the sheep and people with an agenda.
According to them a chimp with one eye and dodgy motor skills can succeed at IM if he:
Never gave up (Could take decades)
Changed his mindset
Took Massive action (I now hate that word)
Etc...

THEO

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Cali16

9 years ago

Originally Posted by salegurus

According to them a chimp with one eye and dodgy motor skills can succeed at IM if he:
Never gave up (Could take decades)
Changed his mindset
Took Massive action (I now hate that word)
Etc...

Oh, Theo, you're so negative! Haven't you learned by now that even someone with the IQ of a baked potato can make millions in IM with just a few mouse clicks...?

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salegurus 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

Oh, Theo, you're so negative!

LOL, you know Cali i've tried real hard not to be so negative but all it takes is one or two threads and i lose my way....
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BigFrank

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

Oh, Theo, you're so negative! Haven't you learned by now that even someone with the IQ of a baked potato can make millions in IM with just a few mouse clicks...?

You must also truly believe in your dream. If you believe, then nothing can stop you. You'll get there. Don't stop believing.

Cheers. - Frank

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MikeAmbrosio

9 years ago

Originally Posted by salegurus

It may be the best thing you can do, and i totally agree that IM is not for everyone but post that and you are soon drowned out by the sheep and people with an agenda.
According to them a chimp with one eye and dodgy motor skills can succeed at IM if he:
Never gave up (Could take decades)
Changed his mindset
Took Massive action (I now hate that word)
Etc...

THEO

Yeah. That's why I stopped posting (for the most part) upstairs. I have been 1600-some posts for 7 years now. Not worth the aggravation.

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tagiscom

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

The fascinating thing to me is that there are people who are offering advice, trying to help.

My ex-wife, from decades ago, recently bought a "Make money online" course from an infomercial. She called me when it arrived and asked; "I just got this course on making money on the internet. I've never been online. So, how do I make money?"

When I told her that it would take at least several months, just to learn how to use a computer, send e-mails, and do an online search (she had no idea what that was) ....she was angry.

"You make money on the computer. Why won't you tell me how to do it?"

Honestly, Every time a word started to form, I just stopped. I knew nothing I would say, would help.

Yes, that is the crux of it, someone goes online see's a Make Money while in your underpants and tossing midgets, (small people, political corrected) on Clickbank and they spend years in the "Shiny Object or Bust mode".

It typically takes 5 to 7 years to make it online, (it has taken me almost 7) so most newbies with a shiny object syndrome, (or SOS) in their eyes, Definitely Don't want to hear that!

I don't go upstairs much either, because l got fed up with helping others, and seeing them vanish, or accept the advise and vanish.

It is easy for a seasoned marketer to give advise, very hard for someone who just learned that a mouse isn't something a cat plays with, to accept it!

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

We're all monsters down here, Frank.

I'm not a monster, l am a human being!!!

At least during the day?

Originally Posted by salegurus

No and No
No-Mere mortals like us can not help them but luckily the MF is chock full of people with God-like powers of creating wealth from nothing no brain required...

No-They are too lazy to do anything else, they want the life style, be their own boss yada yada

Spot on, that's why no matter how ridiculous the question they will ignore all else just to add their "expert advice" which has made them millions...

It may be the best thing you can do, and i totally agree that IM is not for everyone but post that and you are soon drowned out by the sheep and people with an agenda.
According to them a chimp with one eye and dodgy motor skills can succeed at IM if he:
Never gave up (Could take decades)
Changed his mindset
Took Massive action (I now hate that word)
Etc...

THEO

Originally Posted by Cali16

Oh, Theo, you're so negative! Haven't you learned by now that even someone with the IQ of a baked potato can make millions in IM with just a few mouse clicks...?

Yes, my cat has done it, so can you!!!!

See you on the other side, friend, brother, su...ahem!

Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio

Yeah. That's why I stopped posting (for the most part) upstairs. I have been 1600-some posts for 7 years now. Not worth the aggravation.

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tryinhere

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

I just visited the SEO forum for the first time in a long time. When did they add that "overview" of what SEO is at the top? The overview itself looks like an amateur attempt at SEO.

They have the same crap in the offline marketing header, looks and smells like a fresh turd.

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Dennis Gaskill

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

Dennis, looks like they've done that with other subforums as well (not sure when that started).

You'd think a company like Freelancer could at least find a decent writer for these "overviews". The first sentence of the overview for email marketing starts out:

Email marketing is a powerful one to many online marketing strategy...

Social media marketing:

It can be a very effective one to many marketing channel to reach a large group of people.

Um, okay...

Hard to believe someone approved that.

Originally Posted by yukon

They're currently ranking #35 for the over optimized keyword search engine optimization which brings in well over 3 unique traffic per month from rural India.

#46 a few minutes ago.

Originally Posted by tryinhere

They have the same crap in the offline marketing header, looks and smells like a fresh turd.

Yep, looks like it's a process. They haven't gotten to them all yet, but they have a lot them.

I wonder what they'll think up for Off Topic forum. Anyone care to take a stab it?

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salegurus

9 years ago

This thread ties in to what i just said: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ave-dream.html

It's impossible to fail with that kind of advice, oh and as always "Never Give Up"....."ever".....

Thanks to WF i now detest the phrases "massive action" and "never give up"... It's like when i overdosed on Tequila in my younger days and now i can't even stand the smell of that sweet nectar...

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BigFrank Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by salegurus

It's like when i overdosed on Tequila in my younger days and now i can't even stand the smell of that sweet nectar...

Yeah. It's like eating a bad clam. Total deal-breaker, for life. :-)

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