Entitled Famous US Actor Unlawfully brings Dogs into Australia

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

These Actors are always feeling like they can break the Rules just because of who they are.

Johnny Depp brings in a pair of recently adopted dogs to an acting job in Australia. Without the proper permits/documentation and smuggling in the two little cute Yorkies

There is 50 hrs. left and the Australian Govt will act by putting them down if they are not picked up.

Honestly, Iam praying he does not act within those 50 hours so the Govt can go ahead and exterminate these little guys just to bring home the message that these 'big headed' people like Depp have to play by the Rules as well.

Unbelievable , some of these people. It is amazing how we bolster up the Hollywood crowd on these pedestals like their Gods or something

Australia tells Johnny Depp: Your dogs must 'bugger off' - CNN.com

What are you? Nuts?
You'd kill two innocent little babies to teach someone a lesson?

But yeah, rules are rules even if you are the sexiest man alive.

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Kurt

9 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

What are you? Nuts?
You'd kill two innocent little babies to teach someone a lesson?

But yeah, rules are rules even if you are the sexiest man alive.

Terra

Wouldn't it be more fair to kill Johnny Depp?

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Wouldn't it be more fair to kill Johnny Depp?

I recently saw the movie "Blow:" with Johnny playing the guy (George Yung) who was a major, major cocaine distributor in the U.S. in the late 70s and early 80s.

He almost got killed at least a couple times in the movie.

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MissTerraK

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

I recently saw the movie "Blow:" with Johnny playing the guy (George Yung) who was a major, major cocaine distributor in the U.S. in the late 70s and early 80s.

He almost got killed at least a couple times in the movie.

See?
It just isn't his time!

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writeaway 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Wouldn't it be more fair to kill Johnny Depp?

Wow. Talk about gping 'medieval' on him. Phrase is from Pulp Fiction.
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  Originally Posted by writeaway
  
  Wow. Talk about gping 'medieval' on him. Phrase is from Pulp Fiction.
  
  Just to be clear, my point wasn't to kill Johnny Depp. It was sarcasm to make a point that it was Depp's fault and the dogs shouldn't be killed to punish Depp for his mistake and that the dogs did nothing wrong.
  
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awbenjamin1

9 years ago

Absolutely!! Johnny Depp should be taught a lesson. But the dogs should be spared.

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whateverpedia

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Worner

No sympathy. him and his gf should be fined and thrown in the slammer.

Originally Posted by awbenjamin1

Absolutely!! Johnny Depp should be taught a lesson. But the dogs should be spared.

The dogs have been spared, and were never in any danger. Depp however is now looking down the barrel of up to 10 years in an Australian jail, where I have no doubt he will be very popular at shower time. (Don't drop the soap Johnny). The pilot of the private jet is also facing a possible two year stretch himself.

I have no sympathy for either of them.

Pirates of the Caribbean star Johnny Depp facing up to 10 years’ jail for smuggling dogs to the Gold Coast | Gold Coast Bulletin

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

The dogs have been spared, and were never in any danger. Depp however is now looking down the barrel of up to 10 years in an Australian jail, where I have no doubt he will be very popular at shower time. (Don't drop the soap Johnny). The pilot of the private jet is also facing a possible two year stretch himself.

I have no sympathy for either of them.

Pirates of the Caribbean star Johnny Depp facing up to 10 years’ jail for smuggling dogs to the Gold Coast | Gold Coast Bulletin

Well, in MY book, it depends if the pilot knew. As for Depp, ALL he could claim is ignorance, but even the US has laws here, and if he goes on a private carrier, he must be that much more careful to check laws.
The nasty thing here is that all they can do is validate that they would not have found a problem. If they found one, the best overall solution may be to put them down. If they didn't find one, send them back on a US carrier and fine Depp for the trouble, or keep him in jai a lengthy period. What gets me is that the $340,000 is EXCESSIVE! Depp would laugh it off, and be done with it, possibly hurting australia and getting NO punishment. The AVERAGE american would risk SO much, or spend a lengthy sentence, which is ALSO a risk.

Actors like the public to think they care about "FAIRNESS", but they really don't at all. They will openly flaunt this option, while they know so few others have it.

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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Actors like the public to think they care about "FAIRNESS", but they really don't at all. They will openly flaunt this option, while they know so few others have it.

Steve

People know I hate big time Liberal thinking and big time Conservative thinking.

So I come at this with open mind.

The fact is Hollywood comes at people as ALWAYS being caring but you get people like Decaprio playing the role only to seem him boating down the river in these goliath boats eating up gas and putting pollution in the air.

People get tired of all this irony and contradiction

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

People know I hate big time Liberal thinking and big time Conservative thinking.

So I come at this with open mind.

The fact is Hollywood comes at people as ALWAYS being caring but you get people like Decaprio playing the role only to seem him boating down the river in these goliath boats eating up gas and putting pollution in the air.

People get tired of all this irony and contradiction

I wasn't trying to make a political statement, only a valid observation. And rich stars are among the biggest offenders. Some stars I would have thought were dirt poor are filthy rich and THEY flaunt it.

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agmccall 9 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

But yeah, rules are rules even if you are the sexiest man alive.

Just to clarify, I have never smuggled anything, anywhere, anytime.

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Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

These Actors are always feeling like they can break the Rules just because of who they are.

Johnny Depp smuggles in a pair of recently adopted dogs to an acting job in Australia. Without the proper permits/documentation for these two cute little Yorkies

There is 50 hrs. left and the Australian Govt will act by putting them down if they are not picked up

Old news ... Whoooo what a scandal. This is BIG. pffffft.
Flight out for dogs already in progress.

Now for the next earth shattering news story ....

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Cali16

9 years ago

Putting the dogs down for this reason makes me sick to my stomach. Put them in a no-kill shelter and adopt them out.

The dogs are innocent victims of people's stupidity (not just Johnny Depps', but the Australian govt. as well).

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whateverpedia

9 years ago

Australia has very necessary, and therefore very strict quarantine laws. All animals brought in have to go through a very strict quarantine process to protect our unique and very fragile ecosystem. Something benign in your neck of the woods can have a devastating effect here, and that's before considering the effect they can have by being carnivores.

The dogs were never going to be killed. As soon as Mr Depp was informed of this he took them away immediately. No dogs were harmed, nor were they ever going to be harmed by this incident.

The whole dog angle is a distraction. So is the entitlement angle, or at least it's a part of a much bigger story at least. Mr Depp appears to have shown scant regard for Australian laws and needs have his arse introduced to some steel toe capped industrial footwear. That too may be just a distraction from the real story.

It's interesting that the Minister for Agriculture, who has elsewhere been described as being a horse with no head, just an arse at each end, has now made international news.by playing tough guy against some "entitled Yank". Very interesting.

Why was Mr Depp was allowed to bypass Australia's very strict and very necessary quarantine laws? Is he seriously stupid?

No, he seems to have gotten a very real understanding of Australia's very strict and very necessary quarantine laws very quickly, and has safely whisked the dogs away from those savage Australians and their very strict and very necessary quarantine laws.

The big question is how was it allowed to happen? Was Mr Depp provided with assurances that made him believe he was entitled to circumvent Australia's very strict and very necessary quarantine laws? If so, the who provided that assurance? His employer? Someone in Australian officialdom?

Others questions include how did he get through Customs? Did no-one inspect his private jet? If not, then why not? Does Mr Depp have diplomatic immunity? Were they asleep on duty or did they turn a blind eye? If so, then why? Were they incompetent? Were they told to turn a blind eye? Were they paid to turn a blind eye? Of so, then by whom?

Which department is responsible for administering Australia's very strict and very necessary quarantine laws? An online search for "quarantine minister australia" brings up the Department of Agriculture. That makes the bloke in charge of quarantine matters is someone who is elsewhere described as a horse with no head, just an arse at each end.

How comforting.

As far as the media is concerned, they'll soon move on to the next shiny object, if they haven't already.

After that there'll be a lot of questions asked of everyone from "the world's sexiest man" to "a horse with no head just an arse at each end", and a lot of people in between.

That's the real story but ooh look, over there, a shiny object...

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Cali16

9 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

Australia has very necessary, and therefore very strict quarantine laws. All animals brought in have to go through a very strict quarantine process to protect our unique and very fragile ecosystem.

I certainly understand that and have no issues with that at all. I would imagine most countries have a strict protocol with regards to bringing animals into the country. I would also think that most people - especially someone who travels all over the world as much as Johnny Depp - would be aware that you can't just bring your animals into another country without permission and proper documentation, etc.

But rather than euthanize unauthorized / undocumented animals (if that does happen in cases like this), I would hope they would consider quarantining them (for however long is needed) instead - and fining the owner, airline carrier, or whoever is responsible, to cover all costs incurred.

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Originally Posted by Cali16

I certainly understand that and have no issues with that at all. I would imagine most countries have a strict protocol with regards to bringing animals into the country. I would also think that most people - especially someone who travels all over the world as much as Johnny Depp - would be aware that you can't just bring your animals into another country without permission and proper documentation, etc.

But rather than euthanize unauthorized / undocumented animals (if that does happen in cases like this), I would hope they would consider quarantining them (for however long is needed) instead - and fining the owner, airline carrier, or whoever is responsible, to cover all costs incurred.

I think the guy in charge just wanted to get his name in the news and make a big statement because of the celebrity involved. I don't know of any country that does allow animals to come in freely without quarantine. Nothing new about that and it's not exclusive to Australia. Probably the biggest case of "animal smuggling" he's been involved in so he gets his pat on the back and a lot of press for breaking this case. Australia is now safe from Yorkies. Never mind the great whites that will eat you up over there. lol.

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HeySal

9 years ago

These are his dogs - family. That's on entitlement - that's love and can't stand being away from them. Fine his ass, take the dogs to the vet and have them declared healthy and get over it.

Don't you people have any ISIS or gov corruption over there to handle instead of worrying about someone loving their dogs a little too much? What a crime.

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sbucciarel

Banned 9 years ago

Depp can bring his dogs to my house anytime. Just dump the fiancee... uhhh I mean wife. I'm in denial.

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Karen Blundell

9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Depp can bring his dogs to my house anytime. Just dump the fiancee... uhhh I mean wife. I'm in denial.

I agree - I have a soft spot for him

also - do you really think he'll get jail time? He won't - he'll pay a hefty fine and that's it -

I too think everyone's making a mountain out of a molehill. And no, I don't think Johnny Depp acts at all entitled. He comes across as humble, intelligent, and quietly sexy in every interview I have ever viewed.

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Originally Posted by Karen Blundell

I agree - I have a soft spot for him

also - do you really think he'll get jail time? He won't - he'll pay a hefty fine and that's it -

I too think everyone's making a mountain out of a molehill. And no, I don't think Johnny Depp acts at all entitled. He comes across as humble, intelligent, and quietly sexy in every interview I have ever viewed.

He'll pay the big fine that he can well afford to pay and Australia beauracracy can pat themselves on the back for their big case and be joyous that they spared Australia from the horrors of Yorkies. lol.

Originally Posted by discrat

People know I hate big time Liberal thinking and big time Conservative thinking.

So I come at this with open mind.

The fact is Hollywood comes at people as ALWAYS being caring but you get people like Decaprio playing the role only to seem him boating down the river in these goliath boats eating up gas and putting pollution in the air.

People get tired of all this irony and contradiction

I don't think about DiCapprio and what he owns or anyone else for that matter. They earn their money and owning a big boat isn't illegal in this country. Politicians and CEOs and other just generally filthy rich people also own big boats and other stuff that I won't ever have. I'm not jealous of what other people own and it seems there is a lot of animosity you hold towards people for just being rich and famous.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

He'll pay the big fine that he can well afford to pay and Australia beauracracy can pat themselves on the back for their big case and be joyous that they spared Australia from the horrors of Yorkies. lol.

I don't think about DiCapprio and what he owns or anyone else for that matter. They earn their money and owning a big boat isn't illegal in this country. Politicians and CEOs and other just generally filthy rich people also own big boats and other stuff that I won't ever have. I'm not jealous of what other people own and it seems there is a lot of animosity you hold towards people for just being rich and famous.

Yeah, I think you are confusing my point. I don't care if people indulge in Life at all !

Iam all for it. P-Diddy and his ship are cool. Owning big toys are fun, and I would do the same

Its the hypocrisy I have a problem with. If you are passionate about pollution control to the extent you are going out to buy a small 'green' automobile ( Decaprio) and encourage everyone should do the same...and then party down the river with a boat that gets "gallons per mile"and pollutes our air.. Well that makes no sense at all and it is hard to take you serious !

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Originally Posted by discrat

Yeah, I think you are confusing my point. I don't care if people indulge in Life at all !

Iam all for it. P-Diddy and his ship are cool. Owning big toys are fun, and I would do the same

Its the hypocrisy I have a problem with. If you are passionate about pollution control to the extent you are going out to buy a small 'green' automobile ( Decaprio) and encourage everyone should do the same...and then party down the river with a boat that gets "gallons per mile"and pollutes our air.. Well that makes no sense at all and it is hard to take you serious !

Yeah, I agree. I think he should have bought a Hummer and said to hell with it.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

These Actors are always feeling like they can break the Rules just because of who they are.

Johnny Depp smuggles in a pair of recently adopted dogs to an acting job in Australia. Without the proper permits/documentation for these two cute little Yorkies

There is 50 hrs. left and the Australian Govt will act by putting them down if they are not picked up.

Honestly, Iam praying he does not act within those 50 hours so the Govt can go ahead and exterminate these little guys just to put their foot down and send a clear message that these 'big headed' people like Depp have to play by the Rules like everybody else !!!!

Unbelievable , people really can disgust me. It is amazing how we bolster up the Hollywood crowd on these pedestals like their Gods or something

Australia tells Johnny Depp: Your dogs must 'bugger off' - CNN.com

Actually I'm more "disgusted" with your hope of his dogs being killed just to "teach that entitled Hollywood jerk a lesson".

Perhaps it wasn't an entitlement thing or a smuggle...maybe he was just clueless, flew in on a private jet and simply brought along the family dogs. If you read the article, he wasn't exactly hiding them out. He took them to a groomer and allowed pictures.

I find it hysterical how much of an uproar this kind of non-news story actually creates. People really need to get a grip (go to the link and read the comments...).

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Cali16

9 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio

I find it hysterical how much of an uproar this kind of non-news story actually creates.

For me, the "uproar" is about innocent animals potentially being put down for such a stupid reason. Punish the owner (with a severe fine, or whatever is appropriate), not the animals.

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9 years ago

Honestly, Iam praying he does not act within those 50 hours so the Govt can go ahead and exterminate these little guys just to put their foot down and send a clear message that these 'big headed' people like Depp have to play by the Rules like everybody else !!!!

You would kill two dogs just to "show" a celebrity he wasn't special? That's sad. It was Depp's fault they were smuggled in - not thee dogs' fault.

Perhaps "Mr Depp" might want to take his film elsewhere?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

For me, the "uproar" is about innocent animals potentially being put down for such a stupid reason. Punish the owner (with a severe fine, or whatever is appropriate), not the animals.

I agree. But according to the story, he was already arranging a private jet to fly the dogs home so I wasn't too concerned. Hence the "non-story" viewpoint.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

For me, the "uproar" is about innocent animals potentially being put down for such a stupid reason. Punish the owner (with a severe fine, or whatever is appropriate), not the animals.

Actually, the dogs were presumed innocent. Right now, they are probably begging to confess.. If I know these dogs, they are now shaking handsl with the DA...to snitch on Depp. The first one offered a Beggin Strip will bark.

Plea bargaining is what dogs are good at. And they will roll over on a friend in a heartbeat.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Actually, the dogs were presumed innocent. Right now, they are probably begging to confess.. If I know these dogs, they are now shaking handsl with the DA...to snitch on Depp. The first one offered a Beggin Strip will bark.

Plea bargaining is what dogs are good at. And they will roll over on a friend in a heartbeat.

I fail to see how they got through Border Collie patrol. They must be very ADeppt. Guns are not used, but if they put up a fight they are Towsered. Australia is also very wary of letting in Yorkshire Terrorists.

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Originally Posted by lanfear63

I fail to see how they got through Border Collie patrol. They must be very ADeppt. Guns are not used, but if they put up a fight they are Towsered. Australia is also very wary of letting in Yorkshire Terrorists.

It's just your typical War on Terrier.

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9 years ago

The dogs have left, but will they be permitted to enter the US?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Honestly, Iam praying he does not act within those 50 hours so the Govt can go ahead and exterminate these little guys just to put their foot down and send a clear message...

I agree about how some of these celebs conduct themselves but seriously put the dogs down? Come on man......

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alistair

9 years ago

I think Australia did the right thing. It's their country and their laws so either respect them or pay the consequences. They gave him a choice and he's done the right thing.

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Floyd Fisher

9 years ago

How much do you want to bet this was all a marketing ploy to drum up publicity for 'Pirates of the Caribbean' since the last film bombed so badly?

And you all fell for it to boot.

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Kay King

9 years ago

Australia has very necessary, and therefore very strict quarantine laws. All animals brought in have to go through a very strict quarantine process to protect our unique and very fragile ecosystem.

That's true and understandable. On the other hand, Austrailia has more bugs, snakes and other things that can kill you than most other countries, doesn't it?

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9 years ago

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Chris Worner

9 years ago

Depp and his girlfriend smuggled the dogs in hiding them in a luxury handbag just before they exited the plane, lied on official legal documentation stating that they didn't have any animals with them, and got caught (Due to their own epic arrogance/stupidity take your pick) This wasn't some innocent mistake.

No sympathy. him and his gf should be fined and thrown in the slammer.

All they had to do was declare the dogs, they'd have been quarantined for a couple of weeks then released. Avoiding this whole mess.

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Originally Posted by Chris Worner

Depp and his girlfriend smuggled the dogs in hiding them in a luxury handbag just before they exited the plane, lied on official legal documentation stating that they didn't have any animals with them, and got caught (Due to their own epic arrogance/stupidity take your pick) This wasn't some innocent mistake.

No sympathy. him and his gf should be fined and thrown in the slammer.

All they had to do was declare the dogs, they'd have been quarantined for a couple of weeks then released. Avoiding this whole mess.

The woman, sadly, is his wife, not his girlfriend. Depp doesn't want or need your sympathy. He flew them out on a private jet costing $350,000 and can afford any fines incurred and still be filthy rich (estimated $400 million worth). His fans could care less about this. They'll still be his fans. Now maybe if he went to Australia and murdered someone or molested a child, or had sex with a kangaroo they might not be his fans anymore ... but that isn't the case and it's far from it.

You're also incorrect about the procedures for bringing a dog from the US to Australia.

Step 1: Confirm general eligibility
Timeframe: Before starting the export process

Dogs must not be under quarantine restrictions at the time of export and can only be exported to Australia from an approved country.
Pregnancy: Dogs must not be more than 30 days pregnant nor be suckling young at the time of export.
Dog Breeds: In accordance with the Customs (prohibited imports) Regulations 1956, dogs of the following pure breeds are prohibited and not eligible for import into Australia:
dogo Argentino; fila Brasileiro; Japanese tosa; American pit bull terrier or pit bull terrier; Perro de Presa Canario or Presa Canario.
[For information about prohibited dog breeds, contact the Australian Customs by phone: +61 2 6275 6666 or 1300 363 263 (within Australia) or email.]
Hybrids : Any domestic/non-domestic animal hybrids (e.g. wolf-dog crosses) are generally not eligible for import.
[For information about prohibited dog breeds, contact the Department of the Environment on 1800 803 772.]

Step 2: Verify existing microchip or implant a new microchip
Timeframe: A microchip must be present before you can start blood sampling for any pre export testing

Dogs must be identified by a microchip that can be read by an Avid, Trovan, Destron or other ISO compatible reader.
A Government Approved Veterinarian must scan the microchip at each veterinary visit. The scanned microchip number must be correctly recorded on all documentation.
If the microchip cannot be read or is recorded incorrectly across the dog's documentation, it will not be eligible for import to Australia.

Step 3: Check Rabies Vaccination
Timeframe: Dependent on vaccine validity

Your dog must be vaccinated with an inactivated rabies virus vaccine that:
was given when the dog was at least 90 days of age; and
is valid, in accordance with the manufacturer's directions at the time of export.

The rabies vaccine must be approved for use in dogs by the Competent Authority of the country of export.
Three (3) yearly rabies vaccinations are acceptable.
Rabies vaccinations must be administered in an approved country.

Step 4: Rabies Neutralising Antibody Titre (RNAT) test and waiting period
Timeframe: Between 180 days and 24 months before export
For your RNAT test to be valid, the following requirements must be met:

Following a rabies virus vaccination, a Government Approved Veterinarian must scan the animal's microchip and collect a blood sample for the RNAT test.
The blood sample must be drawn in a Department of Agriculture approved country.
The animal's microchip number must be written on the blood tube and the laboratory submission form.
The testing laboratory must be approved by the Competent Authority in the exporting country. It is acceptable to draw blood in a Department of Agriculture approved country and be tested at a laboratory in a different approved country.
The testing laboratory must use either a fluorescent antibody virus neutralisation (FAVN) test or a rapid fluorescent focus inhibition test (RFFIT).
The laboratory report must be in English and completed on the testing laboratory's letterhead. The report must include the animal's microchip number, the blood sampling date, the signature of the person responsible for issuing the laboratory report, the location where the blood sample was taken, the test type and the test result.
A result of 0.5 IU/ml or more is acceptable. A result of less than 0.5 IU/ml is not acceptable and in this circumstance you may re-vaccinate and repeat the testing process.
The department recognises the RNAT test result for 24 months from the date of blood sampling to the date of export. The animal must have a valid RNAT test laboratory report at the time of export. If the RNAT test is due to expire (i.e., greater than 24 months old) prior to the date of export, you must have your dog retested prior to the expiry date.
The animal is not eligible for export to Australia until at least one hundred and eighty (180) days have passed from the date that the blood sample is drawn for the RNAT test (with a satisfactory result). There is no requirement for the animal to remain in an approved country during this period.

Step 5: The Official Government Veterinarian must complete the Rabies Vaccination and Rabies Neutralising Antibody Titre (RNAT) test declaration
Timeframe: Before applying for the import permit

You must contact an Official Government Veterinarian in the country of export to complete the RNAT test Declaration. This is not the Government Approved Veterinarian (your preparing veterinarian).
You must submit the RNAT test laboratory report and rabies vaccination certificate to the Official Government Veterinarian so they can complete the RNAT test Declaration.
The microchip number, test result and blood sampling date must be consistent between the RNAT test laboratory report and RNAT test Declaration.
You must ensure that the completed RNAT test Declaration states the name of the testing laboratory, not the submitting laboratory.

Step 6: Apply and pay for the import permit
Timeframe: After you have received the completed Rabies Vaccination and RNAT test declaration, and at least 42 days prior to proposed date of export.

Please ensure you allow at least 20 working days for the processing and granting of your permit application. It is recommended that you read How to complete the import application before proceeding.

How to apply

You may submit your import permit application, as well as full payment and all supporting documentation by any of the following methods:
Online application using e-lodge (You must scan and attach all supporting documentation).
Manual application - send a copy of your application and all supporting documentation to:
Email to Animal and Biological Import Assessments Branch
Fax to +61 2 6272 3110; or
Post to Animal and Biological Import Assessments Branch: GPO Box 858, Canberra ACT 2601, Australia
Additional charges may be applied if information required to assess the application is missing, incorrect or if an application is put on hold.
Import permits are valid for up to twelve (12) months from the date of issue.

Step 7: Book tentative post arrival quarantine accommodation at an Australian government quarantine facility and make travel arrangements
Timeframe: After you have received your import permit

See the Australian Post Entry Quarantine Facilities webpage for information on booking quarantine accommodation and arranging transport for your dog(s).

Please also note the following:

The department does not place any restrictions on the airline you choose. However, the animal must travel as "manifested cargo" (not in the cabin) and in an International Air Transport Association (IATA) approved crate for dogs.
IATA guidelines can be viewed at Traveller's Pet Corner.
There are animal transport companies in most countries that can make arrangements on your behalf. Visit Independent Pet and Animal Transportation Association International, Inc for a list of animal transport companies worldwide.
The department accepts no responsibility for animals that escape en route, and all transport costs are at the importer's expense.

Transit/Transhipment

The dog may transit (touch down but stay on the same plane) or tranship (change aircraft) in any country en route to Australia.
Dogs transhipped through international airports in non-approved countries must not leave the international side of the airport.
The dog may not be eligible for import if these requirements are not met.

Note: It is the importer's responsibility to contact the competent authority in the country of transhipment to find out:

- whether they allow animals to tranship
- whether they have a facility to accommodate animals during transhipment
- how long the animals can be held
- any additional conditions that may apply.

Step 8: Check other vaccinations
Timeframe: Dependent on the validity of your dog's vaccination and at least 14 days before export

Dogs may be vaccinated against Leptospira interrogans serovar Canicola as an alternative to the testing outlined under Step 13. If you choose to do this, dogs must be fully vaccinated against Leptospira interrogans serovar Canicola, according to manufacturer's recommendations (For most vaccines an initial course of two vaccines 2-4 weeks apart followed by yearly boosters), at least 14 days prior to export and the vaccination must be valid at the time of export.

The department recommends that your dog receives a vaccination that protects against Distemper, Hepatitis, Parvovirus, Para-influenza and Bordetella bronchiseptica and is valid for the entire post-arrival quarantine period.

USA Only: Dogs exported from the USA must be fully vaccinated against canine influenza virus (CIV).

Vaccinations must be administered between 12 months and 14 days before export.
Vaccinations must be valid for the entire quarantine period in Australia.

All vaccinations must be administered in an approved country
Step 9: External parasite treatments
Timeframe: Start external parasite treatment at least 21 days before blood sampling for Ehrlichia canis (Step 10).

A Government Approved Veterinarian must treat the dog with a product that kills ticks and fleas on contact at least 21 days before blood collection for Ehrlichia canis antibody testing. Protection from external parasites must be maintained until the time of export, treatments may need to be repeated by the veterinarian in accordance with the manufacturer's directions .
To calculate 21 days after initial external parasite treatment, the day the treatment is applied must be counted as day 0.
You should discuss suitable external parasite treatments with the Government Approved Veterinarian.
At each subsequent veterinary visit, the Government Approved Veterinarian should thoroughly examine the dog for external parasites. If any fleas or ticks are found from the time of treatment referred to above until export, they must be removed and the preparation must be restarted, including testing for Ehrlichia canis antibodies.
Further information on acceptable treatments.

Step 10: Testing for Ehrlichia canis
Timeframe: Ehrlichia canis blood sampling must occur within 45 days before export

A blood sample collected at least 21 days after external parasite treatment starts (Step 9) and within 45 days before export must be tested for Ehrlichia canis infection by an Indirect Fluorescent Antibody Test (IFAT).
The test must produce a negative result at a dilution of 1:40. Testing done using the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test will not be accepted.
If external parasite treatments do not provide continuous protection from at least 21 days prior to this testing until the time of export then the test result will be invalidated and must be repeated in accordance with Steps 9 and 10.

Step 11: Testing for Brucella canis (Brucellosis)
Timeframe: Within 45 days before export

If the dog is desexed, no testing for Brucellosis is required (Note: Evidence of desexing may be requested by the Competent Authority in the exporting country or the Department of Agriculture).
OR
A blood sample must be taken by a Government Approved Veterinarian from the dog and tested for Brucella canis using a rapid slide agglutination test (RSAT), a tube agglutination test (TAT) or an indirect fluorescent antibody test (IFAT) within 45 days before export.
The test must produce a negative result.
If the dog returns a positive or inconclusive result please contact the department for further advice.

Step 12: Testing for Leishmania infantum (Leishmaniosis)
Timeframe: Within 45 days before export

A blood sample must be taken by a Government Approved Veterinarian from the dog and tested for Leishmania infantum using either an indirect fluorescent antibody test (IFAT) or an enzyme linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) within 45 days before export. The test must produce a negative result.
The test must produce a negative result

Step 13: Testing for Leptospira canicola (Leptospirosis)
Timeframe: Within 45 days before export

Note:This step only applies if the dog has not been vaccinated against Leptospira interrogans serovar Canicola as per Step 8.

A blood sample must be taken by a Government Approved Veterinarian from the dog and tested for Leptospira interrogans serovar Canicola using a microscopic agglutination test (MAT) within 45 days before export. The test must produce a negative result (less than 50% agglutination) at a serum dilution of 1:100.

Step14: (only if your dog has ever visited mainland Africa): Babesia Canis Treatment
Timeframe: Within 28 days before export
If your dog has ever visited mainland Africa, it must be treated by a Government Approved Veterinarian with a single dose of imidocarb dipropionate at a rate of 7.5mg/kg body weight, or two doses at a rate of 6.0 mg/kg body weight given at least 14 days apart. Treatments must be by subcutaneous injection and given within 28 days before export.
Step 15: Internal parasite treatments
Timeframe: Two treatments at least 14 days apart, with the second treatment given within 5 days before export.
The dog must be treated by a Government Approved Veterinarian twice with an internal parasite treatment effective against internal parasites (nematodes and cestodes). The two treatments must be administered at least 14 days apart and within 45 days before export. The second treatment must be given within 5 days before export. Further information on acceptable treatments.
Step 16: Pre export clinical examination
Timeframe: Within 5 days before export
The dog must be examined by a Government Approved Veterinarian or an Official Government Veterinarian and found to be free from external parasites and clinical signs of infectious or contagious disease within 5 days before export. You must take the animal and all documentation to this examination.
Step 17: Completion of Veterinary Health Certificate (Attachment A)
Timeframe: Within 5 days before export
The Veterinary Health Certificate is located as Attachment A to your valid import permit. It must be completed by the Official Government Veterinarian.
The following documents must accompany the animal on arrival in Australia. Copies can be used, but all documents must bear the original signature of the Official Government Veterinarian and stamp of the Competent Authority on each page:

A valid import permit
A completed Veterinary Health Certificate (Attachment A of the import permit)
Ehrlichia canis laboratory report
Leishmania infantum laboratory report
Brucella canis laboratory report (if not desexed)
Leptospira canicola laboratory report (if not vaccinated)
Rabies Neutralising Antibody Titre (RNAT) test laboratory report; and
Rabies Neutralising Antibody Titre (RNAT) Test Declaration.

[It is recommended that you retain a copy of each of these documents.]

Any corrections made to the Veterinary Health Certificate must be struck through, remain legible and be signed and stamped by the Official Government Veterinarian (NB: Correction fluid must not be used).
Step 18: Travel to Australia

The dog must be consigned to Australia in a container that meets the standard required in the International Air Transport Association (IATA) Live Animals Regulation Container Requirement 1.
In most cases the animal will be checked in at the freight terminal, not the passenger terminal.
The dog must arrive in Australia prior to the expiry date of the import permit.

Step 19: On Arrival in Australia

Staff from the department will collect your animal on arrival for transport directly to the Quarantine Facility.
All cats and dogs must complete a minimum of 10 days in an Australian quarantine facility. Please note that 10 days quarantine is the minimum requirement only and that any issues that may increase the biosecurity risk posed by an animal may result in a longer stay in post-entry quarantine (for example, if a tick is found on your dog, they will need to stay for 21-30+ days until they repeat their blood testing; at the importer's cost).

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07 Apr 2015

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Chris Worner

9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

The woman, sadly, is his wife, not his girlfriend. Depp doesn't want or need your sympathy. He flew them out on a private jet costing $350,000 and can afford any fines incurred and still be filthy rich. His fans could care less about this. They'll still be his fans. Now maybe if he went to Australia and murdered someone or molested a child, they might not be his fans anymore ... but that isn't the case and it's far from it.

Blah blah blah other countries laws don't matter...........

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

You're also incorrect about the procedures for bringing a dog from the US to Australia.

You seem to be wilfully ignorant of the fact that Depp and his wife didn't have the dogs undergo any of the necessary testing before bringing them over here. If he had done, then declared them, they'd have been in quarantine for a couple of weeks and allowed to stay.

Ironically, the dogs could be put down back in the US.

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sbucciarel

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Worner

You seem to be wilfully ignorant of the fact that Depp and his wife didn't have the dogs undergo any of the necessary testing before bringing them over here. If he had done, then declared them, they'd have been in quarantine for a couple of weeks and allowed to stay.

blah blah blah ... I'm not willfully ignorant of the facts. I just don't give a shit, and I'm certain that Depp's yorkies did have all the necessary immunizations and tests by his own vet. That's called routine vet care and I'm sure that were free of rabies and parasites. But the process Australia takes so long that his film will be done by the time they could come over.

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Chris Worner

9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

blah blah blah ... I'm not willfully ignorant of the facts. I just don't give a shit, and I'm certain that Depp's yorkies did have all the necessary immunizations and tests by his own vet. That's called routine vet care and I'm sure that were free of rabies and parasites.

What you personally believe is irrelevant and changes nothing.

But the process Australia takes so long that his film will be done by the time they could come over.

So it's okay to violate other countries laws if they are inconvenient? LOL.

Thanks for the laugh.

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sbucciarel Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Worner

So it's okay to violate other countries laws if they are inconvenient? LOL.

Thanks for the laugh.

You're quite welcome. Now keep raging because an incredibly wealthy, adored by fans worldwide and sexy man broke a little law. Mountains ... molehills. He'll pay his fine and the dogs are out, so your outrage is amusing. Jealousy I imagine.
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seasoned

9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

That's called routine vet care and I'm sure that were free of rabies and parasites. But the process Australia takes so long that his film will be done by the time they could come over.

WHAT is routine care? At least earlier, many cars outside of california had problems with california law. My uncle, in denmark, told me of a person that had his corvette shipped from the states into denmark, and it was ripped apart and REinspected! In california, there are parts where if you bring fruit in from mexico, they can make a FEDERAL CASE out of it, and it can be BAD! WHY? Because Mexico has pests the US doesn't, and the US doesn't want them! HECK, a few weeks ago I watched a show about a little island town. One distinction is that they have some trees that are no longer common in the mainland, because a FOREIGN disease wiped them out! The island town was far enough off the coast that their trees weren't affected.

Does the US have things Australia doesn't? YEP! Does Australia have things the US doesn't? YEP! So HOW can you speak of "ROUTINE"? Follow only "US" routine in australia, and you could be DEAD! Aren't we glad that the Australian government tailors THEIR "routine" to THEIR area!?!?!? HECK, just TODAY I heard people remarking about all the poisonous creatures they have there. If such a creature bites you in australia, you might make it to a prepared hospital. If the same creature bit you in the US, GOOD LUCK!

As for the time? If they are SO worried about such things, maybe they should keep the pets IN THE US!!!!!!!!

They actually have companies in the US that are JUST for such things! I got a kick out of one I recently saw in boston. THEY are called YUPPIE PUPPY! Here is their site! http://www.yuppup.com/ THEY will even let you track your dog on the internet, and report on almost EVERYTHING!

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sbucciarel

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

WHAT is routine care? At least earlier, many cars outside of california had problems with california law. My uncle, in denmark, told me of a person that had his corvette shipped from the states into denmark, and it was ripped apart and REinspected! In california, there are parts where if you bring fruit in from mexico, they can make a FEDERAL CASE out of it, and it can be BAD! WHY? Because Mexico has pests the US doesn't, and the US doesn't want them! HECK, a few weeks ago I watched a show about a little island town. One distinction is that they have some trees that are no longer common in the mainland, because a FOREIGN disease wiped them out! The island town was far enough off the coast that their trees weren't affected.

Does the US have things Australia doesn't? YEP! Does Australia have things the US doesn't?

Steve

If you'd bothered to read the 19 "simple" steps that you need to follow to import a dog, you would see that the tests and immunizations required are simple, routine vet care in the US. They are not looking for some hocus pocus exotic disease. As for cars and fruit ... focus Steve .... focus. We're talking about dogs. lol

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seasoned

9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

If you'd bothered to read the 19 "simple" steps that you need to follow to import a dog, you would see that the tests and immunizations required are simple, routine vet care in the US. They are not looking for some hocus pocus exotic disease. As for cars and fruit ... focus Steve .... focus. We're talking about dogs. lol

ACTUALLY, it ISN'T 19 steps! It is more like TWENTY! I bet a number of the tests aren't always done, unless specified, AND they state SPECIFICALLY when they must be done! If some are done a week prior to the import of the dog, they are NOT valid! The rabies test has to be done between 180 days and 24 months. And ALL they allow you to do is have the australian government get access to the dog. THEY then have to watch it for at least 10 days! I never claimed they were doing any magic. I was simply saying that australia, as far as diseases, creatures, and policies, is different from the US. And the fact that you have all these things simply to get your pet into quarantine THERE is a deal breaker. They obviously want to validate it themselves, and make sure the dog didn't catch something on the way.

The valid import permit provides the specific conditions for importing your animal. The conditions on the import permit take precedence over any other source of information. The information below is a general guide to assist in the preparation of your animal for export to Australia; it is not a substitute for the import permit.
To be eligible for import, all dogs must be compliant with all the import conditions stated on the valid import permit. All dogs must complete a minimum 10 day period in an Australian quarantine facility.
It is a requirement under Australian legislation that all live animals coming to Australia from category 3 countries must be accompanied by a valid import permit.
If an animal arrives in Australia and it does not meet all of the conditions on the accompanying import permit, then it may be returned to the country of export or euthanized at the importer's expense.
A Government Approved Veterinarian or Official Government Veterinarian must perform all veterinary procedures listed below.
All testing must be conducted in an approved country in a laboratory recognised by the government of the country of export.
You must contact the competent authority in the country of export to determine which veterinarians and laboratories are approved to prepare your cat for export.
You must contact the competent authority in the country of export to determine if there are any additional export requirements and/or if the country of export has an agreed veterinary health certificate to use in place of the Department of Agriculture's standard veterinary health certificate.
The Department of Agriculture recommends that you take this information to your Government Approved Veterinarian or pet transport agent to assist you with understanding the requirements.
Import conditions stated on the Import Permit must be strictly complied with. Failure to comply with the import conditions on the Import Permit may result in the imported animal being held longer in post entry quarantine, requiring additional testing or subject to re-export. Importers will be charged additional fees for costs associated with managing non-compliant animals.
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Step 1: Confirm general eligibility
Timeframe: Before starting the export process
Step 2: Verify existing microchip or implant a new microchip
Timeframe: A microchip must be present before you can start blood sampling for any pre export testing
Step 3: Check Rabies Vaccination
Timeframe: Dependent on vaccine validity
Step 4: Rabies Neutralising Antibody Titre (RNAT) test and waiting period
Timeframe: Between 180 days and 24 months before export
Step 5: The Official Government Veterinarian must complete the Rabies Vaccination and Rabies Neutralising Antibody Titre (RNAT) test declaration
Timeframe: Before applying for the import permit
Step 6: Apply and pay for the import permit
Timeframe: After you have received the completed Rabies Vaccination and RNAT test declaration, and at least 42 days prior to proposed date of export.
Step 7: Book tentative post arrival quarantine accommodation at an Australian government quarantine facility and make travel arrangements
Timeframe: After you have received your import permit
Step 8: Check other vaccinations
Timeframe: Dependent on the validity of your dog's vaccination and at least 14 days before export
Step 9: External parasite treatments
Timeframe: Start external parasite treatment at least 21 days before blood sampling for Ehrlichia canis (Step 10).
Step 10: Testing for Ehrlichia canis
Timeframe: Ehrlichia canis blood sampling must occur within 45 days before export
Step 11: Testing for Brucella canis (Brucellosis)
Timeframe: Within 45 days before export
Step 12: Testing for Leishmania infantum (Leishmaniosis)
Timeframe: Within 45 days before export
Step 13: Testing for Leptospira canicola (Leptospirosis)
Timeframe: Within 45 days before export
Step14: (only if your dog has ever visited mainland Africa): Babesia Canis Treatment
Timeframe: Within 28 days before export
Step 15: Internal parasite treatments
Timeframe: Two treatments at least 14 days apart, with the second treatment given within 5 days before export.
Step 16: Pre export clinical examination
Timeframe: Within 5 days before export
Step 17: Completion of Veterinary Health Certificate (Attachment A)
Timeframe: Within 5 days before export
Step 18: Travel to Australia
Step 19: On Arrival in Australia

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agmccall

9 years ago

All this about Depp. What about Australian Customs. It does not matter if you come through on a commercial plane or a private jet. You still need to clear customs. They did not see 2 live animals?

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seasoned

9 years ago

Originally Posted by agmccall

All this about Depp. What about Australian Customs. It does not matter if you come through on a commercial plane or a private jet. You still need to clear customs. They did not see 2 live animals?

al

There are a lot of ways to hide it. Planes are considered to be kind of sterile, in the security sense. Before TSA, the AIRLINES were responsible for checking luggage, and they didn't check everything and I distinctly remember not having to take my checked luggage through customs in denmark. Of course I MUSED at the laxed security! A chance inspection of my passport by a swiss agent noted that the danish customs official hadn't changed the month on his stamp!!!!!! So this is apparently COMMON!

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