10 Polite Things People Just Don't Seem To Do Anymore

11 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

This one is related to driving:

When people are allowed to enter a lane/come over they don't wave thanks as much anymore.

According to my experiences it's down to about 25% when I'm the nice person driving.

I am in no way obsessed about it but it is something I have noticed.

I find drivers nearly always wave to me when I let them enter a lane, even if I have to chase them for several blocks.

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Kurt 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

I find drivers nearly always wave to me when I let them enter a lane, even if I have to chase them for several blocks.

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But the real question is, how many of them aren't waving a middle finger at you?

On a serious note (kind of)...An elderly aunt of mine asked me a while back what it meant when someone give her the middle finger...she really didn't know. I told her it meant "You're a great driver, Lady!".
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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

10 Polite Things People Just Don't Seem To Do Anymore

This one is related to driving:

When people are allowed to enter a lane/come over they don't wave thanks as much anymore.

According to my experiences it's down to about 25% when I'm the nice person driving.

I am in no way obsessed about it but it is something I have noticed.

I lived in Pennsylvania for a few years. The drivers there are unfailingly polite, And I found out that any slight (on the road) is taken very personally.

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WalkingCarpet

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I lived in Pennsylvania for a few years. The drivers there are unfailingly polite, And I found out that any slight f*rt (on the road) is taken very personally.

Fixed for you.

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Synnuh

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I lived in Pennsylvania for a few years. The drivers there are unfailingly polite, And I found out that any slight (on the road) is taken very personally.

I think it's the area. New Jersey was just as bad with no left turns.

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

I'll fess up to two of them:

Leaving my hat on indoors

Saying "not a problem" instead on "you're welcome."

I think the hat issue is antiquated. If my cap is on, it's staying on. I've never really understood why it was considered impolite. Not waving or saying thank you I get, but how is leaving my hat on an affront to someone? Oooh, I'm hiding my hair from you. I'm such a bad person.

As for "not a problem," that's probably a habit I should break.

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BigFrank

Banned 11 years ago

My personal pet-peeve is the inability to extend a gracious 'thank you' when someone, especially someone that you do not know, does something to assist you.

Recently we had someone post here about some surgery they were looking to have performed on their dog. I had never had any personal contact with that individual, but I am a 'soft-touch' for any animal in need or any person that is unable to meet their pets needs.

I went to the fund-raising site and donated $50 and never received so mach as a simple thank you. Yes, I understand that when we give we should never expect anything in return and that's fine. Still, is it really too much to expect that someone might say thank you? I don't feel that it is and I think it is rude to not do so.

Of course, once the fund-raising drive ended, that person has not been back, since.

One word; gauche.

I would never have been able to live with myself had I shown myself to be that unappreciative.

That is all. We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.

Cheers. - Frank

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

My personal pet-peeve is the inability to extend a gracious 'thank you' when someone, especially someone that you do not know, does something to assist you.

Recently we had someone post here about some surgery they were looking to have performed on their dog. I had never had any personal contact with that individual, but I am a 'soft-touch' for any animal in need or any person that is unable to meet their pets needs.

I went to the fund-raising site and donated $50 and never received so mach as a simple thank you. Yes, I understand that when we give we should never expect anything in return and that's fine. Still, is it really too much to expect that someone might say thank you? I don't feel that it is and I think it is rude to not do so.

Of course, once the fund-raising drive ended, that person has not been back, since.

One word; gauche.

I would never have been able to live with myself had I shown myself to be that unappreciative.

That is all. We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.

Cheers. - Frank

Frank, I received several updates from the fundraising website that contained several thank you's. Maybe you unsubscribed from those emails?

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BigFrank Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Frank, I received several updates from the fundraising website that contained several thank you's.

I did receive an occasional email, for a very short period of time, but if memory serves they were just a notification that another donation had been made. Not certain. What I am certain about is the the words 'thank you' never reached me in any way.

Not a big deal. Like I said, at some level one shouldn't even expect a thank you, but hey, narcissists have feelings, too. A little. :-)

Maybe you unsubscribed from those emails?

I neither subscribed nor unsubscribed. I made the donation, briefly received emails and that was the end of that.

Cheers. - Frank
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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

I'll fess up to two of them:

Leaving my hat on indoors

Saying "not a problem" instead on "you're welcome."

I think the hat issue is antiquated. If my cap is on, it's staying on. I've never really understood why it was considered impolite. Not waving or saying thank you I get, but how's is leaving my hat on an affront to someone? Oooh, I'm hiding my hair from you. I'm such a bad person.

As for "not a problem," that's probably a habit I should break.

Trust me, I've seen you live. Not saying "Thank you" is the least of your social foibles.

Some things I think are funny;
When someone right in front of you doesn't hold the door for you.
When you hold the door for someone and they ignore you.
When you wave for someone to pull out in traffic, in front of you...but they don't acknowledge it.

These things don't irritate me, but I think they are funny.

But not taking off your hat, when you go inside? What are you, an animal?

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BigFrank Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

When you hold the door for someone and they ignore you.

I always say, quite loudly, "You're very welcome."

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BigFrank Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

If my cap is on, it's staying on.

Keeps the cooties safe and warm.

Cheers. - Frank
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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

I'll fess up to two of them:

Leaving my hat on indoors

Saying "not a problem" instead on "you're welcome."

I think the hat issue is antiquated. If my cap is on, it's staying on. I've never really understood why it was considered impolite. Not waving or saying thank you I get, but how's is leaving my hat on an affront to someone? Oooh, I'm hiding my hair from you. I'm such a bad person.

As for "not a problem," that's probably a habit I should break.

Don't thank me for the research. It's not a problem.

Hats Off! The Who-What-When-Where of the Hat

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

Originally Posted by bizgrower

Don't thank me for the research. It's not a problem.

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Emily Post, much like those rules for hat wearing, hasn't been relevant since the '50's.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Emily Post, much like those rules for hat wearing, haven't been relevant since the '50's.

Who determines if it is "relevant"? People think, for example, that it is SUPERSTITIOUS that it is bad luck to open your umbrella inside, or walk under a ladder. They are just blithering IDIOTS! You walk under a ladder, or even near one, or open an umbrella inside, and you are LOOKING for trouble! Ladders aren't always stable, and many people, like perhaps 98%, DON'T CARE if a spline hits you in the eye, which can EASILY tear your eyelid, leave a nasty bruise, and blind you for life! It is a good thing that the splines are as much as 2 feet apart, and you only have TWO really delicate spots that are about 1.5"across.

But go ahead and walk under ladders, even though a slight mistep could trigger the death of maybe a dozen people. IMAGINE that the ladder is at a construction site, and near one of those makeshift structures that are SUPPOSED to be for safety. If the ladder went down, there are a lot of ways it could be the primary or secondary cause of disaster, Go ahead and just don't worry about your umbrella even though you could SEVERELY hurt people. As for the hat? WHO KNOWS, but it has always been considered the polite and appropriate thing to do. There ARE some low hanging things, and a hat COULD limit your view, so I guess it could be safer ALSO.

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BigFrank

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Who determines if it is "relevant"? People think, for example, that it is SUPERSTITIOUS that it is bad luck to open your umbrella inside, or walk under a ladder. They are just blithering IDIOTS! You walk under a ladder, or even near one, or open an umbrella inside, and you are LOOKING for trouble! Ladders aren't always stable, and many people, like perhaps 98%, DON'T CARE if a spline hits you in the eye, which can EASILY tear your eyelid, leave a nasty bruise, and blind you for life! It is a good thing that the splines are as much as 2 feet apart, and you only have TWO really delicate spots that are about 1.5"across.

But go ahead and walk under ladders, even though a slight mistep could trigger the death of maybe a dozen people. IMAGINE that the ladder is at a construction site, and near one of those makeshift structures that are SUPPOSED to be for safety. If the ladder went down, there are a lot of ways it could be the primary or secondary cause of disaster, Go ahead and just don't worry about your umbrella even though you could SEVERELY hurt people. As for the hat? WHO KNOWS, but it has always been considered the polite and appropriate thing to do. There ARE some low hanging things, and a hat COULD limit your view, so I guess it could be safer ALSO.

Steve

Stupefyingly ridiculous. I don't know what else to say.

Cheers. - Frank

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Originally Posted by BigFrank

Stupefyingly ridiculous. I don't know what else to say.

Cheers. - Frank

Well, I am not that crazy about most of new york anyway, and it is a big place, so we likely won't bump into one another.

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Who determines if it is "relevant"?

I do.

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Kay King

11 years ago

Frank -

She did come here and thank those that donated and she has posted since. Also, the dog was able to have surgery and is doing well.

There are rude people and scammers out there - but Karen isn't one of them.

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BigFrank

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Originally Posted by Kay King

Frank -

She did come here and thank those that donated and she has posted since. Also, the dog was able to have surgery and is doing well.

There are rude people and scammers out there - but Karen isn't one of them.

I never accused her of being a scammer. I voiced my displeasure at not being thanked personally, which I believe is a very simple gesture and the least someone should do. I'm certain that it's something you would do.

I'm very happy to hear that the dog is doing well.

Cheers. - Frank

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bizgrower 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Emily Post, much like those rules for hat wearing, hasn't been relevant since the '50's.

Nor have I.
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Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Emily Post, much like those rules for hat wearing, hasn't been relevant since the '50's.

The only time hats indoors bother me is if I'm sitting behind someone at a movie or some other entertainment event with a hat taller than a baseball cap. There isn't always another chair or spot to move to so you can enjoy the show.
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11 years ago

Originally Posted by bizgrower

Don't thank me for the research. It's not a problem.

Hats Off! The Who-What-When-Where of the Hat

Walking around St Paul's Cathedral a few years back with the wife at Christmas time I was asked by a priest to remove my woolly hat (No bobble) Everyone in the Uk wears them as it's cold that time of year and a lot of body heat is lost through the head. (having a small brain does not help either)

While I was there just to marvel at the architecture and history, I was told to remove it as a mark of respect. I did because it was the priests abode . Of course I knew really that he meant it was to show respect to the big gaffer in the sky.

So just remember folks, if confronted by a deity, take your hat off.

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BigFrank

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by lanfear63

So just remember folks, if confronted by a deity, take your hat off.

I'm extremely forgiving in that regard. Just be sure to hit the donation box on your way out the door.

Cheers. - Frank

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HeySal

11 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

The only time hats indoors bother me is if I'm sitting behind someone at a movie or some other entertainment event with a hat taller than a baseball cap. There isn't always another chair or spot to move to so you can enjoy the show.

Maybe that's where the tradition came from - so people behind someone in a church or theater or like settings would be able to see? It's probably on google somewhere if anyone's really curious about how that bit of manners came about.

Originally Posted by BigFrank

I'm extremely forgiving in that regard. Just be sure to hit the donation box on your way out the door.

Cheers. - Frank

Ah. I didn't realize that all the animosity shown to WC when he quiped that he was God was because someone here had already claimed the role for himself.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Maybe that's where the tradition came from - so people behind someone in a church or theater or like settings would be able to see? It's probably on google somewhere if anyone's really curious about how that bit of manners came about.

Ah. I didn't realize that all the animosity shown to WC when he quiped that he was God was because someone here had already claimed the role for himself.

Hats Off! The Who-What-When-Where of the Hat

Then there is a tradition of my ancestors:

[QUOTE] The yarmulke, meaning skullcap in Yiddish, is a beanie that covers a Jewish man's head. The Hebrew term for it is Kippah. Jews cover their heads during prayer, eating and studying as a sign of respect toward God, who is above you. Religious Jews will wear it all the time. [QUOTE]
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11 years ago

[quote=bizgrower;10076120]Hats Off! The Who-What-When-Where of the Hat

Then there is a tradition of my ancestors:

[QUOTE] The yarmulke, meaning skullcap in Yiddish, is a beanie that covers a Jewish man's head. The Hebrew term for it is Kippah. Jews cover their heads during prayer, eating and studying as a sign of respect toward God, who is above you. Religious Jews will wear it all the time.

The Jewish Outreach Institute

Why do I get the feel that it's not the only "rule" you're an exception to?

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11 years ago

[quote=HeySal;10076145] [quote=bizgrower;10076120]Hats Off! The Who-What-When-Where of the Hat

Then there is a tradition of my ancestors:

[QUOTE] The yarmulke, meaning skullcap in Yiddish, is a beanie that covers a Jewish man's head. The Hebrew term for it is Kippah. Jews cover their heads during prayer, eating and studying as a sign of respect toward God, who is above you. Religious Jews will wear it all the time.

Why do I get the feel that it's not the only "rule" you're an exception to?[quote]

If you're referencing WF forum rules, if posting something that simply explains one religious tradition is breaking the rules, then I don't mind if the mods delete it. Otherwise, I've no idea what you're referring to.

If you're talking about other Jewish traditions, I am so far from being any religious expert that
people should do some Googling if they want to know more.

Kind of funny to me. My parents chose to not raise us with any religion - not even an intellectual exposure to different religions. Their thinking is that we should choose on our own. Much, much later on, Mom wanted me to be Jewish - I thought it was too late for such wishes since they had decided in the 50's to present no religious
influence to their kids.

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HeySal

11 years ago

[quote=bizgrower;10076169][quote=HeySal;10076145] [quote=bizgrower;10076120]Hats Off! The Who-What-When-Where of the Hat

Then there is a tradition of my ancestors:

[QUOTE] The yarmulke, meaning skullcap in Yiddish, is a beanie that covers a Jewish man's head. The Hebrew term for it is Kippah. Jews cover their heads during prayer, eating and studying as a sign of respect toward God, who is above you. Religious Jews will wear it all the time.

Why do I get the feel that it's not the only "rule" you're an exception to?

If you're referencing WF forum rules, if posting something that simply explains one religious tradition is breaking the rules, then I don't mind if the mods delete it. Otherwise, I've no idea what you're referring to.

If you're talking about other Jewish traditions, I am so far from being any religious expert that
people should do some Googling if they want to know more.

Kind of funny to me. My parents chose to not raise us with any religion - even an intellectual exposure to different religions. Their thinking is that we should choose on our own. Much, much later on, Mom wanted me to be Jewish - I thought it was too late for such wishes since they had decided in the 50's to present no religion.

Dan

Me? Referring to the rules? LMAO. Someone musta p***ed in your wheaties this morning. No - what I was doing is adding a little humor. Very little, I guess, huh? I hate to ruin a joke by explaining it, but if it was so bad that you didn't get it, well.........

We were talking about traditional manners, right? Taking a hat off is kinda an etiquette rule, and you're family has an adverse rule. So I was just being humors and saying there were probably all sorts of stuff just a tad different about you.

Okay - groan. I tried. It's early - guess I'll go to bed now.

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Then there is a tradition of my ancestors:

The yarmulke, meaning skullcap in Yiddish, is a beanie that covers a Jewish man's head. The Hebrew term for it is Kippah. Jews cover their heads during prayer, eating and studying as a sign of respect toward God, who is above you. Religious Jews will wear it all the time.

Why do I get the feel that it's not the only "rule" you're an exception to?

Me? Referring to the rules? LMAO. Someone musta p***ed in your wheaties this morning. No - what I was doing is adding a little humor. Very little, I guess, huh? I hate to ruin a joke by explaining it, but if it was so bad that you didn't get it, well.........

We were talking about traditional manners, right? Taking a hat off is kinda an etiquette rule, and you're family has an adverse rule. So I was just being humors and saying there were probably all sorts of stuff just a tad different about you.

Okay - groan. I tried. It's early - guess I'll go to bed now.

Sorry, I did not make the leap. Kind of tired this morning. And, yeah, I'm pretty unconventional
in my own way. LOL

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HeySal

11 years ago

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Originally Posted by bizgrower

Hats Off! The Who-What-When-Where of the Hat

Then there is a tradition of my ancestors:

Sorry, I did not make the leap. Kind of tired this morning. And, yeah, I'm pretty unconventional
in my own way. LOL

I was up all night, too. Trying to get unwound to go to sleep - but excuses aside - if I were all that funny, I'd be gettin' paid to be a comedian. Since I'm not - I also don't get the laughs that someone who's funny for a living gets. Sigh. Glad it's a holiday at any rate.

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11 years ago

#1 I rarely do, but I let people know I'm grateful.
#2 I DO say hello.
#3 It depends. Sometimes I DO! I generally leave a LOT of seats free though, like 98% of the time. SERIOUSLY! Nearly every metro rail I have been on, I STAND even though there are PLENTY of seats around. The same is true of the airport, etc... So if someone is hogging the seats it is generally anyone BUT me!
#4 I ALWAYS do!
#5 I generally do if I where a hat. I rarely do wear hats.
#6 I almost ALWAYS do, but cut it short if it delays the person behind me.
#7 I ALWAYS say when I mean it!
#8 I generally ALWAYS do.
#9 I OFTEN do!
#10 I usually dedicate my time to my guests, etc...

So HEY, I guess I live up to the reputation I have with those that KNOW me, and that I work with!

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HeySal

11 years ago

I got two thank-you notes this week. I went to my niece's baby shower in Cal last weekend. My nephew had his first 8 months ago, so I made baskets for both of them filled with neat little baby items. Thank you's sent (btw - my grandniece is adorable!).
Out here in the smaller town areas, drivers yield for pedestrians when the weather sucks, and often to other cars just to be friendly. On the back roads and 4WD, it's rare to come across another vehicle and not wave and nod - and occasionally stop and chat, too.
I always chatter with people when I'm stuck in a line.
Doors are a thing that I still do if anyone is either behind me or coming the other direction if I get there first........but then I don't have to worry about some dumb feminist yelling that I think she's less of a person for not being able to open her own damned door. I rarely come across someone of either sex that doesn't hold one open for me in the same circumstance unless they are distracted and just don't notice.
Phones - I just don't hang out with people that are stupidly addicted to being connected. If I'm expecting an important call when I meet up with someone, I warn them I'll have to take it. If I see the call is not the number I'm expecting the call from - I don't answer it. That's what voicemail is for.
Maybe this article reflects how people are in larger cities, but for the most part if you get away from the madding crowds people are still people and aren't like this. Just one of the perks of living in small town America, I guess.

PS - I don't see anything wrong with "not a problem" in place of "you're welcome". It's still an acknowledgement and that's basically what is being said is that acknowledgement isn't given anymore.........which I don't find to be the case at all.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

PS - I don't see anything wrong with "not a problem" in place of "you're welcome". It's still an acknowledgement and that's basically what is being said is that acknowledgement isn't given anymore.........which I don't find to be the case at all.

HECK, maybe some languages don't even have a word for welcome as a response. Apparently the common spanish phrase translates as don't mention it, or it was nothing. And the german word translates as please/pardon/or ask(Bitte The Many Meanings of Bitte in German - Meanings of Bitte in German ). And YEAH, I have heard ALL SORTS of welcomes!

When I went to denmark, a few people chuckled. I asked them why, and they said that it was clear that I studied older materials. They dispensed, at least in THEIR areas, with the formal YOU some time ago. Regardless, It is nice that I learned it. I was dealing with older people as well. And HECK, my aunt once met the QUEEN as she was shopping. Apparently the Danish queen is rather nice, and doesn't act all high and mighty, but it WOULD be nice to use the formal YOU to her, if I ever met her. I bet my aunt did!