Someone conned me some Paypal money - This never happened to me before

by awledd
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I was in need of some cash fast and was searching exchanges from Paypal to Payoneer. Then I thought I found some FB page. I know all the rules but as I started chatting with the scammer, he told me to send money as to friends and family. Again I know that refunds will be hard that way but said let me try if at all I got the chance of a real exchange. Sent him the money, he disappeared from Skype instantly.

I clicked on dispute with PP and the system tells me you can not open dispute to the transaction b/c it is paid to friends and family. Lucky scammer. Anyways I wrote to Paypal in the contact us page. Let us see what will happen. Hope I will get my money back.
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  • Profile picture of the author awledd
    This is Paypal's error message:

    We're sorry, but this transaction cannot be disputed because it is not a purchase of goods or services. Please contact the recipient directly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    You just "gifted" money to your "friend".

    Hope you learn something from it, there's nothing you can do about it and trying is a waste of energy.

    Don't gift money to people and try to figure out why you were so gullible.

    That's why he told you to do it that way, because he knew PayPal wouldn't do anything about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author @tjr
    IMers Log Day 6: I've found a new low. This time, I gave away money without getting anything in return. I don't know how much longer I can hold out. Free trials are running low and back links are not incoming. Should this be my last entry: please tell my wife to give me the code on the back of her credit card.
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    • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
      Originally Posted by @tjr View Post

      IMers Log Day 6: I've found a new low. This time, I gave away money without getting anything in return. I don't know how much longer I can hold out. Free trials are running low and back links are not incoming. Should this be my last entry: please tell my wife to give me the code on the back of her credit card.
      Makes me laugh, but the part about asking the wife for the code on the back rings true. Sadly.

      At the hotel I manage, I've found that if they are going to try and scam with a third party credit card,
      they are usually in their thirties or forties and have the numbers from a card written down on paper -
      including the code on the back. Then they have a phone number of the supposed card owner whom
      I can call to verify.

      The last time somebody tried, he was about thirty five and claimed it was his wife's credit card.
      After that failed, he spent about an hour in the lobby supposedly calling from his cell phone to
      get other friends or relatives to help him out. (I think he was hoping I would give in.)


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  • You should still be able to get your money back. I would actually call paypal and talk to someone. Don't give up
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    • Profile picture of the author fantrom
      Originally Posted by TotalWebsiteControl View Post

      You should still be able to get your money back. I would actually call paypal and talk to someone. Don't give up
      Not gonna happen. If Paypal was to refund everyone that fell for this classic scam they would be taking a loss which they hate to do.

      Unfortunately for the OP the scammer knew exactly what he was doing when he asked the payment to be sent as a gift.

      Chalk it up as "Live and Learn".
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      • Originally Posted by fantrom View Post

        Not gonna happen. If Paypal was to refund everyone that fell for this classic scam they would be taking a loss which they hate to do.

        Unfortunately for the OP the scammer knew exactly what he was doing when he asked the payment to be sent as a gift.

        Chalk it up as "Live and Learn".
        Look i have been using paypal for over 10 years. I know them pretty well. If he was legitimately scammed they will make sure he gets his money back.
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        • Profile picture of the author fantrom
          Originally Posted by TotalWebsiteControl View Post

          Look i have been using paypal for over 10 years. I know them pretty well. If he was legitimately scammed they will make sure he gets his money back.
          And I have been using Paypal even longer than that and their protocol is not to pay. Unless in a very unusual circumstance which this is not.

          There's been Paypal fraud going back to 2001 when they made their name processing most of Ebay transactions. So this is nothing new to them.

          He is trying to recoup his loss and we'll soon find out how it turns out.
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  • Profile picture of the author awledd
    I am such an idiot but this kind of thing never happened before. Am cautious most of the time. besides it is just below 100. Darn it though.
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  • Profile picture of the author namehero
    Originally Posted by awledd View Post

    I was in need of some cash fast and was searching exchanges from Paypal to Payoneer. Then I thought I found some FB page. I know all the rules but as I started chatting with the scammer, he told me to send money as to friends and family. Again I know that refunds will be hard that way but said let me try if at all I got the chance of a real exchange. Sent him the money, he disappeared from Skype instantly.

    I clicked on dispute with PP and the system tells me you can not open dispute to the transaction b/c it is paid to friends and family. Lucky scammer. Anyways I wrote to Paypal in the contact us page. Let us see what will happen. Hope I will get my money back.
    Their customer support is pretty good, so you may want to try to call them an explain. Also, may try to contact your bank or credit card (depending on your funding source).

    Sorry to hear, nothing worse than a dead beat scammer.
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by namehero View Post

      Sorry to hear, nothing worse than a dead beat scammer.
      Except for people that help them practice their craft.

      Cheers. - Frank
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        I'm constantly amazed here by the number of people who believe "if you tell someone, they will fix it". In the real world, if you make a stupid mistake sometimes you have to live with it.

        The OP knows he did a stupid thing....that's how the scam works. He knowingly sent money - and it's gone.

        Harsh lesson - but bet you won't do that again.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by namehero View Post

      Sorry to hear, nothing worse than a dead beat scammer.
      Dan Riffle. Dan Riffle is worse than a deadbeat scammer.

      Your sentence should read, "Dan Riffle is worse than a dead beat scammer."


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  • Profile picture of the author hardworker2013
    I am sure if you contact Paypal they will do something about it because the money went to a paypal account.The problem is that the scammer perhaps have cleaned out or closed the account already.
    You will have to take it as a loss and a lesson for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author awledd
    I have contacted Paypal but not through the dispute interface b/c that wouldn't let me proceed. I contacted them from the contact us page. Let us see what happens. Thx guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    He wasn't legitimately scammed -- according to them. He gifted the money to someone he didn't know.

    They're not going to do a thing about it. OP, don't waste your time trying.

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the money's gone.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnsams364
    Originally Posted by awledd View Post

    I was in need of some cash fast and was searching exchanges from Paypal to Payoneer. Then I thought I found some FB page. I know all the rules but as I started chatting with the scammer, he told me to send money as to friends and family. Again I know that refunds will be hard that way but said let me try if at all I got the chance of a real exchange. Sent him the money, he disappeared from Skype instantly. I clicked on dispute with PP and the system tells me you can not open dispute to the transaction b/c it is paid to friends and family. Lucky scammer. Anyways I wrote to Paypal in the contact us page. Let us see what will happen. Hope I will get my money back.
    Exactly the Paypal is correct. You are not eligible to make dispute due to you did not purchase anything. You send money to the Scammer as Friends & Family. Before doing this kind of transaction,we should know this person first. Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by awledd View Post

      I am such an idiot but this kind of thing never happened before. Am cautious most of the time. besides it is just below 100. Darn it though.
      I lost a lot more than that, but she and her accomplishes were professionals, and it went on for weeks with phone calls, emails and fake flatmates.

      She even used some black magic or new age tricks to suck me into the "Falling in love, soulmate BS"!

      I did feel a physical connection to her, or someone she knows, and she did mention it, to this day l don't know how she did it, but it certainly sucked me in!

      I was thinking how could a scammer, do something like this? But she did!

      She also knew how much to scam, which company to use to transfer the funds, and so forth, so, l couldn't do anything to get it back, and l tried everything!

      She also said that she worked in a hospital in Melbourne, one of 6 or 7 within the same area with similar names, very hard to check up!

      This B*** covered all the bases, and at least l know that it took a professional to screw me over!

      I have almost recovered what this creature took, so you can try, but l wouldn't count on a refund, unless PP is feeling generous?

      These a***sw**** usually cover all the bases, so it is probably best to do what l did, just bury yourself in getting ahead financially online, and let these creatures have there blood money and 10 pairs of shoes, and keel over and have a life review, and go through all the torment these creatures put their victims through!


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  • Profile picture of the author ProServices
    Sorry to hear about your problems with a scammer. Paypal should do more and track the payments and claw back that payment if you can prove you were conned. That would be a fair thing to do but unfortunately we live in an unfair world.
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by ProServices View Post

      Sorry to hear about your problems with a scammer. Paypal should do more and track the payments and claw back that payment if you can prove you were conned. That would be a fair thing to do but unfortunately we live in an unfair world.
      PayPal is not responsible for the bad choices you make in life. My 80 year old mother would not have made this bonehead move. She knows better. Live and learn.

      Cheers. - Frank
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    Use that $62.66 free report in your forum sig & you'll be back in business in less than two days.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I would have never contacted Paypal to tell them that I used their "send money to friends or family" to send money to an unknown scammer. All I can say is ... don't do that again.
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  • Profile picture of the author awledd
    Sure Yukon. Here is the final result though. thank God I got my money back. Here is what they wrote me:

    I have reviewed your account and I saw that the payment was made as "Personal Payment"
    As you are ware of, personal payments are not covered under the PayPal Purchase Protection (PPP).
    However, I realized that you have been a very loyal customer to us and I really appreciate your patronage with PayPal.
    As a one time courtesy, I will assist to reimburse you with the full amount of the transaction to your account. Please allow 3-5 business days for the funds to be reflected in your account.
    For your future reference, please do not send the money as "personal" if you intend to purchase goods and please be very careful to consider the merchant's advise should they instruct you to make the payment as friends and family.
    We appreciate your patience and cooperation while having you issue sorted out.

    Please let me know if you need further assistance.


    Practically the money is in my acct. now. Thanks for the concern and support guys.
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