Alabama man so upset Caitlyn Jenner received ESPN award that he shoots his television (Video)

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  • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
    Are you thinking of getting a sex change to?
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Zodiax View Post

      Are you thinking of getting a sex change to?
      Not at all, I'm simply reporting on how upset and ridiculous someone can be on this matter.
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        Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

        Not at all, I'm simply reporting on how upset and ridiculous someone can be on this matter.
        I know, I was just being hard-nosed.
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        Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

        Not at all, I'm simply reporting on how upset and ridiculous someone can be on this matter.
        who is someone?

        the guy from alabama or that other person?
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Yes, l am over the media as well, and the endless crap on tv, but l don't have any comment on the reason he went ape-S***!


          But l agree it seems that if someone went through hell that that means we should watch this episode of "that so called talent show with screaming teenage girls in the audience"!

          Or the media thrash's something like this. I agree he/she, had courage, etc, but thrashing it on tv, don't agree with that!


          I literally don't watch tv anymore, why!


          Endless sitcom reruns.

          Endless murder mystery reruns.

          Endless English renovation shows.

          And endless "we have seen this several times, already", blockbuster movies.

          But we do get latest releases, just as long as they are not very popular or they are some crappy feel good, romantic comedy, but wait, we have already seen those as well!


          We can't shoot tv's in AU, anymore. But my style is to trash a particularly annoying tv series, on occasion!

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        • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
          Originally Posted by hardraysnight View Post

          who is someone?

          the guy from alabama or that other person?
          If someone has to ask - someone will never know.


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          • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
            Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

            If someone has to ask - someone will never know.


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            • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
              Originally Posted by hardraysnight View Post

              add it to the list of never nose

              No one knows what the nose knows when the knows blows.
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              • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
                Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

                No one knows what the nose knows when the knows blows.
                ... but what about known knowns....

                ... and unknown knowns...

                ... and known unknowns...

                ... and unknown unknowns...

                Where's that Rumsfeld fellow when we need him to explain this to us.
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              • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
                Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

                No one knows what the nose knows when the knows blows.
                that is snot true
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                • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
                  I would like to bring something up.

                  We are supposed to live in a tolerant society. Many people self aggrandize themselves and pat themselves on the backs for being tolerant of the recent epidemic of (shall we say) people who wish to attract attention to themselves for being outside the norm.

                  But those same people will chastise the bejesus out of anyone who is not tolerant of circus our country has become.

                  That to me is one of the worst two faced stances anyone can take.

                  They expect everyone to be overly tolerant of the topics they themselves choose to be tolerant of, but they aren't tolerant of the people who aren't tolerant.

                  If you preach tolerance you have to follow your own rules or I call BS.

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                  • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                    Originally Posted by Enfusia View Post


                    They expect everyone to be overly tolerant of the topics they themselves choose to be tolerant of, but they aren't tolerant of the people who aren't tolerant.
                    I think you are onto something, Patrick. The intolerant just may be the last oppressed minority group. I can just see the marches and rallies with signs saying "Tolerate the intolerants." or "Don't hate us, even though we hate you".

                    I just hope they legalize marriage between intolerants.


                    Sorry, I just couldn't resist.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
                      Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                      I think you are onto something, Patrick. The intolerant just may be the last oppressed minority group. I can just see the marches and rallies with signs saying "Tolerate the intolerants." or "Don't hate us, even though we hate you".

                      I just hope they legalize marriage between intolerants.


                      Sorry, I just couldn't resist.
                      Do please understand. I was not espousing whether my views are tolerant are not.

                      Intolerance does not equal hate.
                      I have lactose intolerance but still love some milk products.

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                  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                    Originally Posted by Enfusia View Post

                    I would like to bring something up.

                    We are supposed to live in a tolerant society. Many people self aggrandize themselves and pat themselves on the backs for being tolerant of the recent epidemic of (shall we say) people who wish to attract attention to themselves for being outside the norm.

                    But those same people will chastise the bejesus out of anyone who is not tolerant of circus our country has become.

                    That to me is one of the worst two faced stances anyone can take.

                    They expect everyone to be overly tolerant of the topics they themselves choose to be tolerant of, but they aren't tolerant of the people who aren't tolerant.

                    If you preach tolerance you have to follow your own rules or I call BS.

                    Patrick

                    This is a favorite line of reasoning among those who wish to preserve and defend institutionalized discrimination of any kind.
                    People can be as intolerant as they want to be as long as they don't attempt to impose their ideas and intolerance on everyone else through laws. You want to discriminate? Go ahead, but there are legal protections and you may get sued. You want a government job but your religion says that you can't perform the duties of that job ... tough. Get a job elsewhere. You want white only restrooms and restaurants ... too bad for you. You want to tell other people who they can and can't marry ... that's over. You think a woman's place is serving dinner and cleaning the house? That's over too, unless you marry a Duggar or Duggar type. You may have to end up working for a woman in this day and age. Don't like transgenders or gay people. That's your problem, not theirs.

                    So go ahead and be as intolerant as you wish. I can tolerate that as long as your intolerance doesn't infringe on mine or other's rights.
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                      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                      You think a woman's place is serving dinner and cleaning the house?
                      Yes, although you left out detailing my car. What's your point. :-)

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                      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                        Yes, although you left out detailing my car. What's your point. :-)

                        Cheers. - Frank
                        I'm sure the Duggars have some spare brides around who will do all that for you and more, plus give you 50 or so kids to raise. lol.
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                        • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                          I'm sure the Duggars have some spare brides around who will do all that for you and more,
                          I'd be interested in hear additional information relating to the "more" part.
                          plus give you 50 or so kids to raise. lol.
                          Cool. Kids are bringing good prices on the open market. I think we're looking at a win-win.

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                    • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
                      Originally Posted by outlawdawg View Post

                      Patrick - I agree. If you teach tolerance you must be able to live it.

                      My question is who can we be intolerant with now? Almost all of the "picked on" classes have been eliminated. (note sarcasm)
                      The only thing I truly have intolerance for myself is when they do a pride parade or another gathering and wear 4 foot long paper mache penises that shoot white confetti at the onlookers. There are children in the crowd. So, that action to me is unaceptable. NOTE: I didn't say "they" were unaceptable, I said their action was not.

                      To them I say, if you want people to respect you, act respectable.

                      Other than that, it's supposed to be a free country so have at it!

                      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                      Intolerance of intolerance IS tolerance. It's the double negative thing we were taught at a young age in English class.


                      Just like when multiplying a negative number with another negative number you get a positive number as we were also taught in school. And negative opinions about negative things is positive.


                      The discussion should be about what is positive and negative, not trying to question the logic of not tolerating intolerance. This logic falls apart.


                      BTW, if we used your "logic", shouldn't you also tolerate the "intolerance" of others? Talk about hypocrisy in your accusations of hypocrisy. It works both ways.
                      I didn't say I was intolerant. I was just bringing up a viewpoint for discussion.

                      Personally I don't give a rip what you do so long as you don't disregard the rights of others, harm others or their property.

                      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                      People can be as intolerant as they want to be as long as they don't attempt to impose their ideas and intolerance on everyone else through laws. You want to discriminate? Go ahead, but there are legal protections and you may get sued. You want a government job but your religion says that you can't perform the duties of that job ... tough. Get a job elsewhere. You want white only restrooms and restaurants ... too bad for you. You want to tell other people who they can and can't marry ... that's over. You think a woman's place is serving dinner and cleaning the house? That's over too, unless you marry a Duggar or Duggar type. You may have to end up working for a woman in this day and age. Don't like transgenders or gay people. That's your problem, not theirs.

                      So go ahead and be as intolerant as you wish. I can tolerate that as long as your intolerance doesn't infringe on mine or other's rights.
                      I didn't say I was intolerant.

                      I was just making a point. That those who preach tolerance may want to look in the mirror.

                      Personally I feel that if it's not hurting anyone else then go for it.

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                      • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
                        On another note, one thing that came to mind was that:

                        At least all of the gay sex that happened the other night after national legalization of gay marriage wont result in another baby boomer population explosion.

                        Just sayin....

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                        • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
                          Originally Posted by Enfusia View Post

                          On another note, one thing that came to mind was that:

                          At least all of the gay sex that happened the other night after national legalization of gay marriage wont result in another baby boomer population explosion.

                          Just sayin....

                          Patrick
                          Wrong. Everyone knows the best way of stopping someone having sex is to marry them.
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    ha ha ha ... what an idiot
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          That takes the phrase "Don't shoot the messenger" to a whole new level...!
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            Originally Posted by Cali16 View Post

            That takes the phrase "Don't shoot the messenger" to a whole new level...!
            He does have a point...

            The media is responsible for glorifying what's clearly a freak show. You can bet Bruce is banking ($$) BIG time on his dysfunction.
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              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              He does have a point...

              The media is responsible for glorifying what's clearly a freak show. You can bet Bruce is banking ($$) BIG time on his dysfunction.
              You're right. Here, shoot your computer.

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                Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                You're right. Here, shoot your computer.

                It needs more makeup.







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                  ummm...is that a human?
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                    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                    ummm...is that a human?
                    I think it's the love child of an Oompa Loompa and Malibu Barbie.
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                Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                You're right. Here, shoot your computer.

                Funniest line of the month - bar, none!!! Outrageous.

                Thanks for that.

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            Originally Posted by Cali16 View Post

            That takes the phrase "Don't shoot the messenger" to a whole new level...!
            Wow. OK, I admit it......that one caught me by surprise. Pretty clever.

            By the way...I'm not a warm person...but I never understood making fun of people, like those in the posted photos.

            They are obviously suffering from some image disorder. They may not be aware of how they look. I just see these odd appearing people as broken.
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              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              Wow. OK, I admit it......that one caught me by surprise. Pretty clever.

              By the way...I'm not a warm person...but I never understood making fun of people, like those in the posted photos.

              They are obviously suffering from some image disorder. They may not be aware of how they look. I just see these odd appearing people as broken.
              Keep in mind Bruce is without a doubt banking more money today from his self inflicted freak show than he ever did playing badminton.

              It's known as the Kardashian Phenomenon ®.

              Their rise to socialite status originated from Star Trek Episode XXVII: Rise of the Kardashians where Captain James T. Kirk assumed he defeated the tallest of the Kardashian clan with a stick of butter & toilet plunger. Unfortunately Kirk's logic failed when he soon realized that not only do Kardashians reproduce, they've also mastered the fine art of shapeshifting, now known as The Caitlyn Paradox ®. Incidentally that was the same episode where Kirk coined the phrase "Where no man has gone before".
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              • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                Keep in mind Bruce is without a doubt banking more money today from his self inflicted freak show than he ever did playing badminton.

                It's known as the Kardashian Phenomenon ®.

                Their rise to socialite status originated from Star Trek Episode XXVII: Rise of the Kardashians where Captain James T. Kirk assumed he defeated the tallest of the Kardashian clan with a stick of butter & toilet plunger. Unfortunately Kirk's logic failed when he soon realized that not only do Kardashians reproduce, they've also mastered the fine art of shapeshifting, now known as The Caitlyn Paradox ®. Incidentally that was the same episode where Kirk coined the phrase "Where no man has gone before".
                Now your unabashed, blatant bigotry makes so much more sense. It's not transphobia. You don't like people who make money for not doing much. I actually don't either, but not with the specific vitriol that you have.
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                  Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                  Now your unabashed, blatant bigotry makes so much more sense. It's not transphobia. You don't like people who make money for not doing much. I actually don't either, but not with the specific vitriol that you have.
                  It's actually Coulrophobia.
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                • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                  Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                  Now your unabashed, blatant bigotry makes so much more sense. It's not transphobia. You don't like people who make money for not doing much. I actually don't either, but not with the specific vitriol that you have.
                  Perhaps you should look up the word vitriol!

                  Vitriol - definition of vitriol by The Free Dictionary

                  They list only TWO definitions! I guess EITHER is as appropriate, but I ASSUME you mean the 2nd one as most do. Stating the truth, and making it a funny joke, isn't vitriolic!

                  NOW, as to bigotry? It is WAY over used BUT... Bigotry - definition of bigotry by The Free Dictionary
                  AGAIN, not bigotry, but whatever. That definition is SOOOOO loose that you must accept a burglar trying to rob you at gun point, and even offer up all you own, or you are a BIGOT! I guess they expect you to assume that it is the act of being a bigot, which is FAR more precise, though still biased, etc...., and says:

                  One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

                  AGAIN though, technically that means you must allow a burglar to steal all you have, etc... After all, they have made that POLITICAL! It is ALSO interesting that it doesn't mention sex, though a "transsexual" is really not quite there. Last I heard, they were ACTUALLY trying to get people to accept the idea of FIVE "sexes"! And CAITLYN wants a NEW title. I BELIEVE it was Mx, but I wasn't interested enough to care at the time. So feminists wanted Ms, and caitlyn, IIRC, wanted Mx

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    Really he got it! Nice to see :p
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    WOW! I expected this to be WORSE, based on what you guys said. I figured a guy used a shotgun(he didn't), in the home(he didn't), from his seat(he didn't), etc....

    One person, spoke about how a person deciding to get a "sex change", after so many DECADES no less, is being called "COURAGOUS", and a person losing 2 legs in a war to fight for such freedom is being held in lower esteem. THAT person got ATTACKED for saying what he didn't, etc... Peter Berg slams Caitlyn Jenner: Trading testicles for boobs not award-worthy - Hartford Top News | Examiner.com

    And they certainly have a point. As I have said so many times before... A guy once came up with a format, that became a comic strip, a TV series, and later a few movies. HECK, the concept has been carried over to similar things. The basic format was one where people eschewed the norm, and treated their new life as the norm, and expected others to do the same. The name used for it was "The Addams family" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Addams_Family

    What we have NOW, is actually WORSE, though no less weird. At least the addams family was live and let live, and THEY actually GAVE money out, as opposed to expecting everyone else to pay THEM. And the addams family was not only pro gun, but pro BOMB! They liked torture, but kept it among themselves.

    But the idea of weird creatures, like caitlyn, weird "marriages", and considering uglyness beauty? It was all there in the Addams family. For those that haven't seen it, morticia, to the delight and agreement of the rest of the family, would, if she got roses, cut the flowers off, throw them away, and display them upside down! YEP, just ANOTHER example of how they were like today. GEE! WWII might have been avoided if that school didn't have such a weird expectation of art and all. I wonder what artists they DID accept! It IS interesting that artists, like those that painted the presidential paintings in the US https://www.google.com/search?q=pres...Nv4ZiUIZTZ8%3D , are held in FAR lower esteem than ones that did things like "The scream". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scream

    And WHAT could jenner lose at this point? And the action did NOTHING to further anyone elses decision. MY GOD, the US has paid to have a MALE prisoner "become a female". So WHY did jenner get ANY award?

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      WOW! I expected this to be WORSE, based on what you guys said. I figured a guy used a shotgun(he didn't), in the home(he didn't), from his seat(he didn't), etc....

      But the idea of weird creatures, like caitlyn, weird "marriages", and considering uglyness beauty? It was all there in the Addams family. For those that haven't seen it, morticia, to the delight and agreement of the rest of the family, would, if she got roses, cut the flowers off, throw them away, and display them upside down! YEP, just ANOTHER example of how they were like today. GEE! WWII might have been avoided if that school didn't have such a weird expectation of art and all. I wonder what artists they DID accept! It IS interesting that artists, like those that painted the presidential paintings in the US
      And WHAT could jenner lose at this point? And the action did NOTHING to further anyone elses decision. MY GOD, the US has paid to have a MALE prisoner "become a female". So WHY did jenner get ANY award?

      Steve
      Apparently in a civilized society anything goes!

      That is where we are headed, and why rules need to be enforced to keep a society strong, instead of falling apart at the seams!

      Some people might think that is fine as long as it doesn't affect me, but is it???

      Look at this, only a matter of time before total f***heads like this are allowed to wed!

      Man who wants to MARRY his laptop says computers are his 'preferred sexual object' | Daily Mail Online

      And some wacko Chinese lady already married a Dolphin, and an equally nutso man married a cardboard cutout of himself!

      If this crap continues, we will take a walk one day and see someone walking his newly married sheep, or worse some else kissing his or her, god knows!

      This isn't equality it is a global mental asylum, period!


      At least in the past when society started to fall apart some other less f***up one would go to war and take over, then impose common sense laws, so they could keep a lid on the resident nutters!

      But before someone asks should gays be allowed to marry, of course, but they need to develop their own version as the man/woman one doesn't seem to be working?

      Or it doesn't cut/paste very well?

      Should someone be allowed to marry inaminate objects or animals or computers, (including any human looking ones) definately not!

      Society will well and truely go off the cliff if this nonsense gets any worse!



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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Apparently in a civilized society anything goes!

        That is where we are headed, and why rules need to be enforced to keep a society strong, instead of falling apart at the seams!
        Who's rules? Yours? A civilized society is tolerant and applies justice and rights equally for all rather than a society of discrimination and oppression. Not your brand of "civilized" that imposes a set of rules based on your way of thinking things should be done or your religious beliefs or your prejudices.
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          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Who's rules?
          Mine, of course - if you seek utopia. :-)

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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Apparently in a civilized society anything goes!

        That is where we are headed, and why rules need to be enforced to keep a society strong, instead of falling apart at the seams!
        So... we should be more like Saudi Arabia?

        Some people might think that is fine as long as it doesn't affect me, but is it???
        Of course it is. If it doesn't harm you, me or anyone else, and makes them happy, then go for it.

        Let's not forget that some people think that males with long hair are effeminate. Has society collapsed because a few males choose to grow their hair long? Should we round up all long haired males and force them to have the traditional "short back and sides"?

        Any "society" that feels threatened by non-conformism or ibeing diffeent to the herd is built on very shaky ground indeed, and will inevitably collapse anyway for reasons totally unrelated to a few people being different.

        It's a sad indictment of any such society that they will always try to make scapegoats of individuals who don't conform to a very narrow view of the world. It is also very dangerous. At the risk of invoking Godwin's Law, we don't have to look too far back in history to see what happens when a group of people who are "different" are blamed for all the ills of the world.
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    HECK, if they allow even men to marry men, and women to marry women, than why can't SINGLE people take advantage of the benefits of "marriage"? Did anyone else here see "I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry"? It is a GREAT example of what I am talking about. Is it "fiction"? YEAH. Is it based in reality? ******YEP******! Does it ever happen? You can bet it DOES!

    The movie is about a person that finds his insurance is not good enough. That has ALWAYS happened, and is likely to happen far MORE now! He wanted to get it upgraded, and they said FORGET IT! I don't know why, but such things have been the case for at least my whole life and, in the US, they are STILL THE CASE! Anyway, the insurance company is allowed to do that unless you have some sort of, AS THEY SEE IT, life changing event! One such event? *****MARRIAGE*****! AND, with recent laws, a marriage of homosexuals counts for this.

    OK, Chuck and Larry are STRAIGHT! But they have determined that the best way to allow this guy to change his coverage is to get married. Because they both happen to be male, they have to pretend to be homosexuals. And hopefully you get the point. There are insurance, tax, and information benefits that they ONLY give to people that are married.

    Who is to say that the people that SEEM crazy out there aren't doing this for the same kind of reason? I mean WHY would you want to get married in a church if you think a church is HOGWASH? If you feel it ISN'T hogwash, you must believe the ideas in the bible and respect the religion which means you can NOT force ANYONE to change it or go against it, because doing so would not be possible! You would ALSO be against it from a 1st amendment standpoint. So homosexuals aren't doing it because they are religious!

    And WHY would you go looking for the one place that would NOT do the job? Can't you go to one of the many that WOULD?

    The idea, of these benefits, was OBVIOUSLY to cover the idea of a one worker, two adult, family with kids, but that has somehow been lost in the whole thing. I mean you can't know about a spouse until you marry them, and kids are always a surprise of SOME sort, so it is reasonable to allow them as a life changing event if you are the only one likely to be paying. It also increases impact from taxes, so the tax deduction makes sense. It ALSO means things can happen to other members, and the information thing is a good deal ALSO.

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author iiibinion2012
    I think its Ridiculous.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by iiibinion2012 View Post

      I think its Ridiculous.
      Right on!

      A total waste of a 1991 Sylvania TV.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    The problem with utopia is that there are TWO ways to do it!

    1. Have EVERYONE benefit 100% and get all the goodies! That FAILS, because WHO will produce them?
    2. Have everyone work towards the goal, and be rewarded ACCORDINGLY! If you fail in the first part, things can go from easy to IMPOSSIBLE! If you fail in the second part, people will be upset and the first WILL suffer.

    REMEMBER. this is the only reason why there are things to argue about! IRONIC, BUT TRUE! If there were no farmers, ranchers, or fishermen, we wouldn't have to worry about feeding the poor and starving, or the transportation to transport the food, or the stores, because there would be NO food to transport!

    BTW if you have a small farm, you could probably spend a couple hours, each day, and feed yourself for your life. RESELLING the food requires transportation, sales, agreements, new ways to compete, etc... and is FAR harder.

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      The problem with utopia is that there are TWO ways to do it!

      1. Have EVERYONE benefit 100% and get all the goodies! That FAILS, because WHO will produce them?
      2. Have everyone work towards the goal, and be rewarded ACCORDINGLY! If you fail in the first part, things can go from easy to IMPOSSIBLE! If you fail in the second part, people will be upset and the first WILL suffer.

      REMEMBER. this is the only reason why there are things to argue about! IRONIC, BUT TRUE! If there were no farmers, ranchers, or fishermen, we wouldn't have to worry about feeding the poor and starving, or the transportation to transport the food, or the stores, because there would be NO food to transport!

      Steve
      Dearest Steve,

      My utopia would be predicated on the premise that in no way, shape or form would your inane posts even exist.

      Additionally, please look up the meaning of the word, 'facetious.' Rarely is anything I post meant to be as serious as you seem so hell-bent on interpreting it.

      Cheers. - Frank
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

        Dearest Steve,

        My utopia would be predicated on the premise that in no way, shape or form would your inane posts even exist.

        Additionally, please look up the meaning of the word, 'facetious.' Rarely is anything I post meant to be as serious as you seem so hell-bent on interpreting it.

        Cheers. - Frank
        Steve must be slipping.

        Utopia - definition of utopia by The Free Dictionary

        Facetious - definition of facetious by The Free Dictionary

        Somebody had to do it. lol
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Who's rules? Yours? A civilized society is tolerant and applies justice and rights equally for all rather than a society of discrimination and oppression. Not your brand of "civilized" that imposes a set of rules based on your way of thinking things should be done or your religious beliefs or your prejudices.
          bottom line is society needs rules or it will fall apart!


          They are not my rules just common sense ones!


          If you are happy to go take a walk and see someone kissing his newly married sheep, or someone else kissing his Laptop then fair enough, but l suspect most people are not!

          Me included!

          Religious beliefs or oppression, LOL, l don't think that it is too much to ask to go take a walk without being sick!!!!

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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

            bottom line is society needs rules or it will fall apart!


            They are not my rules just common sense ones!


            If you are happy to go take a walk and see someone kissing his newly married sheep, or someone else kissing his Laptop then fair enough, but l suspect most people are not!

            Me included!

            Religious beliefs or oppression, LOL, l don't think that it is too much to ask to go take a walk without being sick!!!!

            Baaaahhh. Baaaahhhhh. Actually, I don't think you should ever leave the house what with all those electronics and married farm animals around. It's likely to give you bad ideas. Come on, we know you love sheep.
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

              So... we should be more like Saudi Arabia?

              Of course it is. If it doesn't harm you, me or anyone else, and makes them happy, then go for it.

              Let's not forget that some people think that males with long hair are effeminate. Has society collapsed because a few males choose to grow their hair long? Should we round up all long haired males and force them to have the traditional "short back and sides"?

              Any "society" that feels threatened by non-conformism or ibeing diffeent to the herd is built on very shaky ground indeed, and will inevitably collapse anyway for reasons totally unrelated to a few people being different.

              It's a sad indictment of any such society that they will always try to make scapegoats of individuals who don't conform to a very narrow view of the world. It is also very dangerous. At the risk of invoking Godwin's Law, we don't have to look too far back in history to see what happens when a group of people who are "different" are blamed for all the ills of the world.
              Go for it, not a good term to use!


              Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

              Baaaahhh. Baaaahhhhh. Actually, I don't think you should ever leave the house what with all those electronics and married farm animals around. It's likely to give you bad ideas. Come on, we know you love sheep.
              I don't like black sheep!

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              • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                I don't like black sheep!

                That does not surprise me at all.
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              • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                I don't like black sheep!
                Sounds like a cue for a song to me.
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                So that blind people can hate them as well.
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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

                  Sounds like a cue for a song to me.
                  Rainbow - Black sheep of the family - YouTube
                  I will give you credit for not posting the Ba Ba Black Sheep one!

                  Or should l say Ba Ba Colored Sheep? Groan!

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  • Profile picture of the author outlawdawg
    Patrick - I agree. If you teach tolerance you must be able to live it.

    My question is who can we be intolerant with now? Almost all of the "picked on" classes have been eliminated. (note sarcasm)
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by outlawdawg View Post

      Patrick - I agree. If you teach tolerance you must be able to live it.

      My question is who can we be intolerant with now? Almost all of the "picked on" classes have been eliminated. (note sarcasm)
      Considering that I represent at least 5 classes that are picked on that AREN'T eliminated, I would say your sarcasm is well placed. Then again, the "elimination" requires picking on the REMAINDER, so the plan is DOOMED to hypocrisy!

      I mean "affirmative action", for example, REQUIRES that classes be picked on! If they AREN'T, the classes are then equal, and "affirmative action" means NOTHING! I mean WHERE would we be if universities and the like didn't care about sex, race, orientation, creed, etc? WHERE would we be if ALL people were treated the SAME!?

      I wish people would realize what the idea of "affirmative action" is REALLY saying! HECK, many in high positions, even at the tops of colleges, government, and companies, are not white, male, or even straight. WHY would you believe that they would favor such only because of that quality?

      Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by Enfusia View Post

        I would like to bring something up.

        We are supposed to live in a tolerant society. Many people self aggrandize themselves and pat themselves on the backs for being tolerant of the recent epidemic of (shall we say) people who wish to attract attention to themselves for being outside the norm.

        But those same people will chastise the bejesus out of anyone who is not tolerant of circus our country has become.

        That to me is one of the worst two faced stances anyone can take.

        They expect everyone to be overly tolerant of the topics they themselves choose to be tolerant of, but they aren't tolerant of the people who aren't tolerant.

        If you preach tolerance you have to follow your own rules or I call BS.

        Patrick
        Originally Posted by outlawdawg View Post

        Patrick - I agree. If you teach tolerance you must be able to live it.

        My question is who can we be intolerant with now? Almost all of the "picked on" classes have been eliminated. (note sarcasm)
        Intolerance of intolerance IS tolerance. It's the double negative thing we were taught at a young age in English class.


        Just like when multiplying a negative number with another negative number you get a positive number as we were also taught in school. And negative opinions about negative things is positive.


        The discussion should be about what is positive and negative, not trying to question the logic of not tolerating intolerance. This logic falls apart.


        BTW, if we used your "logic", shouldn't you also tolerate the "intolerance" of others? Talk about hypocrisy in your accusations of hypocrisy. It works both ways.
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  • Profile picture of the author mentat47
    To be honest, I don't feel sorry for BRUCE Jenner.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by mentat47 View Post

      To be honest, I don't feel sorry for BRUCE Jenner.
      She, Caitlyn Jenner doesn't really need your empathy. She has huge amounts of money to console herself with.
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      • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        She, Caitlyn Jenner doesn't really need your empathy. She has huge amounts of money to console herself with.
        And that's besides having Claude as her snuggle-bunny.

        Cheers. - Frank
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