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Spam posts often wait a while before deletion - but a request for help from a Warrior who has been contributing here since 2004 is instantly deleted?

I know the rules - but that was the quickest I've seen ANY thread removed.

Hopefully enough saw the thread that BigMike's covered for now....
#off topic forum
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    Missed that one Kay.
    Probably drowned out by the numerous threads being bumped.
    Shame they can't delete a few of those.
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  • I had one recently that was intended to spur some creativity. It got closed within the hour as self promotion.

    I know what promotion is. I have a degree and decades of experience in it. This was no promotion.

    I don't think the mods have any clue or frankly care about how to nurture a community.

    Too bad. I am growing less fond of this place by the day.
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    • True, canning a thread about Martian anomalies, based on red tape, was a bad decision.

      Especially since it was a draw card for the Off Topic, had about 57k of visitors and got about 1000 every time l posted!

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    • You're absolutely right - there is no community here now. Alexa might or might not have been Alexa, and she might not have been a million dollar IMer - but she was here forever as Alexa and talked sense. Whatever her real identity was, she kept the same one for a decade here and we liked her. I'm presuming she's not the only faux identity here. At least she had some intellect - yet she's banned.

      Freelance is, and always has been, a human factory farm. It's a large corporation. They saw a profitable entity, thought it would profit them, while, the whole time missing the point of what made this place profitable. The first thing they did when they bought this is go for the low end cheap meat instead of taking a few more funds and finding quality staff within that understood the dynamics here and could have kept it rolling. We've always had spammers and newbies, yet the community hung together. At the rate this forum community is deteriorating into DP, they'll be lucky if they can turn it for only a small loss before it is worthless to them.
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    • I don't blame the mods. When Freelancer decided to move from a volunteer moderation system - in which mods were selected from within the active membership - to a salaried, externally-sourced moderation set-up, the dynamic was inevitably altered.

      As professional as they might be, salaried employees can't help but have a different mindset and motivation to long-serving volunteers who are emotionally invested in the community. Plus employees have to abide by rules laid down by the management and usually have limited scope to act on their own initiative.

      The problem is that, outside of the obvious spam deletion, moderation - especially of a place the size of the WF - is largely a thankless task (as we've seen in this thread). So much so that many of the old mods only stayed on and took the criticism and abuse they did out of loyalty to the forum and friendship with the owner. In turn, the previous owner trusted and supported those mods by giving them quite a bit of freedom to act. It's almost impossible to get that degree of balance and flexibility with salaried employees, however good they may be.

      In time and with experience, the mods will get more of a feel for the dynamics of the community and perhaps will be allowed more latitude. But it will never be the same.


      Frank
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  • Big Mike's was asking for help? Is he sick - what's on with this?
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    At least my reports on religious posts are being deleted almost instantly. Maybe some of the mods are atheists. :-)

    Cheers. - Frank
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  • So basically the mods did the right thing then. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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  • Wow, what a potent thread. I tend to agree with most of what has been said. While I have been here for 5 years, I know many have been here much longer. It is sad when members of the old guard leave and it has been like a revolving door since the change of ownership. I don't post as often here but I still do visit most days.
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  • Huge thanks to Kay and Thomas for lending a hand to someone who over the years has gone above and beyond in helping other members here, most notably the fundraiser he spearheaded for Michael Tracey. How ironic Mike's blog post regarding community here seems in retrospect.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/blogs/bi...el-tracey.html
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  • This thread is ridiculous.

    The mods had every right to delete any thread asking for money as fast as they can. BigMike could and should have just Pmed people who he knows (sorry to hear about whats going on in greece as I know some great programmers over there - real bummer).

    Some people here are constantly complaining for special privilege to be restored. Would any of the people here be complaining if it was someone they didn't count as friend? nope.

    Internet has far too many scammers to allow solicitation of donations on open forums. Good call by the mods.
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      Do you need a loan?
    • But We know BigMike isn't a scammer. I would have left his thread stay up because I have been here for awhile and have gotten to know BigMike. AS far as special privileges I think people who have contributed as much as BigMike should be given some cosideration.
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  • Big Mike - glad your problem wasn't health related. I can pretty well say that the days of the WF fundraisers are over.

    While you're not in life threatening shape, it's still a scary situation. People need to pay attention to what's happening, though, because it can happen here, too.
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  • I would think that a company spending the kind of cash they did in this forum, might have wanted to hire a sociologist to read this thing and make suggestions on moderation. Corps with smart leaders that taken over new companies do that so they don't get massive turn over due to new "governance". If you look at the way the longer term members relate to others in comparison with new ones, you can pick up the ethos of the place. Any smart corporate leader knows that if you change the ethos, you'll be changing the whole internal structure and in an extremely successful forum the last thing you want to do is destroy the existing social structure. Forums aren't corporate cafeterias -- they are......um...........how do I put this delicately.............SOCIAL MEDIA.
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    • I want to start a fundraiser to donate cheesecake to Claude.

      I don't know if the Mods would approve though.
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  • spam post may not make the Website administrator happy, but i believe that there are still much information for learn if they post some interesting news but not ads, do you think so?
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  • Excellent post, Mike. I think it really captures the frustrations so many of us are feeling lately.

    And I am happy for the way things turned out in this case. You have my best wishes for getting full control of your financial situation back to normal just as soon as humanly possible.
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  • I have my own thoughts about this forum and could probably write a whole book about them, but I won't bore you with those details here. Suffice to say, what I used to get from this forum I now get from communities in private, paid forums as well as a couple of masterminds that I meet with frequently.

    I think this forum has changed quite a bit from what it used to be, but from my vantage point it's not a good thing or a bad thing, it's just different. Some people have chosen to move on because of those changes while others have stayed and have chosen to thrive. It's very much an individual decision.

    It's owned by a large corporation now that has much different ideas and goals than the previous owner had. The moderators have to follow very specific policies and procedures and in many ways it pigeon-holes them into a very specific way of moderating. I think they are doing a great job despite all the limitations that have been placed on them. There are lots of things that moderators were able to do before because Allen gave them a lot of leeway, whereas in the new corporate-run paradigm, that's not the case.

    As a former moderator I have my own thoughts about that. It has it's own strengths and weaknesses. It's a new and different paradigm now and I think it's a lot better today than it was even 6 months ago.

    I also want to state for the record that if this happens to you again BigMike, you have my permission to contact me directly for assistance. You've helped me in the past more than once in different ways and would be glad to help.

    Everyone have a wonderful day.

    RoD
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    interesting timing

    Spam posts often wait a while before deletion - but a request for help from a Warrior who has been contributing here since 2004 is instantly deleted? I know the rules - but that was the quickest I've seen ANY thread removed.