Paranoia Strikes Deep

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We are repainting, new flooring, new fan, etc. fixing up a bedroom.

Lots of years ago, where I used to live, a psycho arsonist destroyed a lot in the neighborhood very close to us-entire homes, basements, porches, etc. (No, it wasn't a rough area.) Three years ago, our neighbor's home burned and was totaled. There was only one other home in between the fire and us, and that home sustained damage.

Now I want fire alarms (battery) put in ceilings of all bedrooms as well as our hallway. This bedroom is a back corner room with the roof of a porch outside. In fact, the roof is just a few inches under the back window.

Where is the best place to stick that fire alarm on the ceiling? I am thinking about two feet in, in the middle from the back wall. The cold air return register is on the right hand side of the room (back wall) if that makes any difference.

Don't start buying any stock in the alarm companies, this is a very small home so I won't be buying that many more extra alarms.
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  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

    We are repainting, new flooring, new fan, etc. fixing up a bedroom.

    Lots of years ago, where I used to live, a psycho arsonist destroyed a lot in the neighborhood very close to us-entire homes, basements, porches, etc. (No, it wasn't a rough area.) Three years ago, our neighbor's home burned and was totaled. There was only one other home in between the fire and us, and that home sustained damage.

    Now I want fire alarms (battery) put in ceilings of all bedrooms as well as our hallway. This bedroom is a back corner room with the roof of a porch outside. In fact, the roof is just a few inches under the back window.

    Where is the best place to stick that fire alarm on the ceiling? I am thinking about two feet in, in the middle from the back wall. The cold air return register is on the right hand side of the room (back wall) if that makes any difference.

    Don't start buying any stock in the alarm companies, this is a very small home so I won't be buying that many more extra alarms.
    Ironic that this was the first thing I read. I just managed to set off our home security alarm by accidentally depressing a button on the keyfob in my pocket. It's unnerving that a voice comes out of the speaker on the wall asking if we want the police and whats your password etc.

    I presume you are just talking about battery smoke detectors. We have a one floor house and just just have one on the wall in the largest room. It works well and sets off easily if we create some smoke or burn some food in the kitchen. You should not need many. They pick up from afar.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      We have them in all bedrooms - the office and hallways. Just don't put one too close to the kitchen or you'll be turning it off here and there.

      Are you talking about individual smoke detectors - or a full wired in alarm system?
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      • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        We have them in all bedrooms - the office and hallways. Just don't put one too close to the kitchen or you'll be turning it off here and there.

        Are you talking about individual smoke detectors - or a full wired in alarm system?
        Individual battery powered alarms, Kay. Thanks for mentioning you have them in every bedroom, now I don't feel so excessive! And I do have to shut off the alarm in the kitchen often enough. It's a bit overly sensitive, but it's got a permanent home in there.

        The only thing I know about a wired in system is that my sister's home had one and thank God, it was at the same time for them to get up in the morning and they could smell the fire before the dang wired in system went off.
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    • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
      Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

      We have a one floor house and just just have one on the wall in the largest room. It works well and sets off easily if we create some smoke or burn some food in the kitchen. You should not need many. They pick up from afar.
      Only one for a one floor home? Sorry to have to disagree with that, even if if the one you have does a great job. Fire moves really, really fast and from what I've seen first hand, I probably couldn't sleep if there was only one in the house.

      Yes, I have one in my kitchen and believe me, I know how to pull a battery very fast. It's on the wall, away from the range/oven, but I refuse to get rid of it :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    April, if you call them, your local fire department would probably come out and show you exactly where to put them.

    Outside of that, maybe this will help:

    Installing and maintaining smoke alarms - NFPA
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Fire can move very fast. My sister's house burned down once. She and her husband lived on the Marina that her inlaws and husband owned. Their back porch was a dock. the sun room led to the dock and was lined with windows. In the sun room they had a glass top table. My sister's husband was home for lunch one day - drank a coke and left the bottle on the table. The sun came through the window, through the bottle on through the table and started the floor on fire. My brother in law was about 100 feet from the house and turned around to see it engulfed. The fire team told him that had he been in the house when it ignited, he'd not gotten out alive. That was in a dry area (Stockton, CA), but still.....fire alarms are good - but make sure you have an escape plan that includes the window in every room. You don't have time to figure out what to do once the fire is already started. Emergency ladders for a second floor in each room are a real good idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    In the US I think they are REQUIRED to have a battery backup. ALSO, CHECK YOUR BUILDING CODE! Some building codes have rules on such things.

    And heysal is right, fire alarms work best in homes that are open plan with smoking fires, If your room Is pretty isolated, and it is just a FIRE, like a real arson fire, you may find that you are TRAPPED INSIDE by the time the alarm goes off in your room.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      April - the advice to check with a local fire department is excellent.

      Our alarms are wired into the security system for the house. Due to my son's work we have to have full security systems - and if you set off an alarm...it's a Major deal. The whole house starts "whooping" loudly - fire call goes out automatically and trucks are dispatched. Not a good time - and don't ask me how I know what happens.....
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    April,

    Because I run a hotel and worry about what guests do in their rooms, I'd say you are not paranoid.

    The info in the link Riffle provided mentions putting them outside sleeping areas as well as
    in the bedrooms. I'd go with that, too.

    You wrote that you have a cold air return. I assume that means a gas forced air heat system.
    If so, I'd strongly recommend getting carbon monoxide detectors as well - especially if the
    system is older and/or you live in a high humidity (rust) area.

    The Fire department should also tell you which brands of smoke detectors and carbon monoxide
    detectors are preferred. Other safety tips as well.

    Dan

    Kay - I'd love to know what your son does for a living, but then you'd probably have to kill us.
    So never mind. I almost rented a rural property I owned to a jewelry maker. He was asking all
    kinds of questions about security and electric power supply for is equipment, and wanted to
    install an alarm system.

    I accidentally tripped a burglar alarm at a place I worked at. The sounds were enough to temporarily
    disable me. High pitched and low pitched.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

      Because I run a hotel and worry about what guests do in their rooms, I'd say you are not paranoid.

      The info in the link Riffle provided mentions putting them outside sleeping areas as well as in the bedrooms. I'd go with that, too.

      You wrote that you have a cold air return. I assume that means a gas forced air heat system.
      If so, I'd strongly recommend getting carbon monoxide detectors as well - especially if the system is older and/or you live in a high humidity (rust) area.

      The Fire department should also tell you which brands of smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors are preferred. And other safety tips.

      Dan


      Excellent post.


      (I also see you, Biz. I see you slowly and strategically trying to usurp my first name.)
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      • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

        Excellent post.


        (I also see you, Biz. I see you slowly and strategically trying to usurp my first name.)
        I had the name first - by about 15 years. So there. (My Tom Brady impression.)
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