Sunburn Causes Skin Cancer, Not Exposure!

9 years ago

Looks like Doctors and researchers seriously screwed that one up. Or they have created a cash cow, and just like other nonsense out there, can't or don't want to shut off the money pouring out of the tap?

I suspected this for a while, if brown skin is considered unhealthy then naturally we wouldn't find it attractive. But we do and have done so, for thousands of years at least!

Honestly - sounds to me like you need to get the education/skills required to do the research before claiming scientists are "wrong".

There is a LOT more to it than you are considering. Sometime it's fun and interesting to think about or argue contrary to a scientific fact or theory, b ut not always wise to make your thoughts public.

When you put it in writing for others to read you may not get the "aha" moment you expected but instead receive a collective "huh???"

That said - the studies already say "sunBURN" is the worst culprit so that's not new.

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Originally Posted by Kay King

That said - the studies already say "sunBURN" is the worst culprit so that's not new.

lol ... I thought everyone already knew this. Must be a slow news day.
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tagiscom

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Honestly - sounds to me like you need to get the education/skills required to do the research before claiming scientists are "wrong".

There is a LOT more to it than you are considering. Sometime it's fun and interesting to think about or argue contrary to a scientific fact or theory, b ut not always wise to make your thoughts public.

When you put it in writing for others to read you may not get the "aha" moment you expected but instead receive a collective "huh???"

That said - the studies already say "sunBURN" is the worst culprit so that's not new.

So you are saying that a gov, website is wrong? Ooook!

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Honestly - sounds to me like you need to get the education/skills required to do the research before claiming scientists are "wrong".

There is a LOT more to it than you are considering. Sometime it's fun and interesting to think about or argue contrary to a scientific fact or theory, b ut not always wise to make your thoughts public.

When you put it in writing for others to read you may not get the "aha" moment you expected but instead receive a collective "huh???"

That said - the studies already say "sunBURN" is the worst culprit so that's not new.

I don't think you should be allowed to be the first one to reply to one of Shane's posts. The centrifugal force generated from the quick 180 degree turn, can be jarring.

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Kay King 9 years ago

Nothing better than a little whiplash in the morning....

So you are saying that a gov, website is wrong

No - I'm saying you have to have the knowledge necessary to interpret the findings reported. But then, I also know how some of the "studies" get funded and completed and how unnecessarily repetitive some of them are...
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HeySal

9 years ago

Actually, the studies that are missing are the ones that say the sun causes cancer. Sun creates vitamin D in the body, which is a hormone as well as a vitamin. Much of what we've heard about sun was not from scientific study, but generated from sunscreen manufacturers who pushed sunscreen the same way pharms push meds.

Now, what you were not told is that Vitamin D itself is a "cure" for damage caused by sunlight so our natural protection (and getting sun is the natural state of this planet and we were built to survive in our own environments) is right there. Sunlight also produces a sulfur compound that kills cancers. Burning changes DNA - regular amounts of sunlight does not.

What has been studied is Vitamin D deficiency - which causes 11 different cancers and many syndromes.

Many doctors are now coming out and telling people to use only natural sunscreens (because many contain carcinogens, endocrine blockers, etc. And.......you are to use it after optimal exposure has been reached, you don't slap it on as soon as you plan on going out the door - that is misuse and it was never intended to be used that way in the first place.

And yes - burning is damaging and if you burn, you need to use some conteractive control right then. Aloe (fresh, bottled has no potency) is a good start if you have a plant that you can pick a leaf, break it open and spread it. A few days of supplemental Vit D (and that's D3 not D2) since you can't get more from the sun to help counteract damage. Note that you need calcium and magnesium along with D for skin damage. Some L-glutamine to increase glutathione production helps, too.

I spent a lot of years studying this because it didn't make sense to me that normal exposure to sunlight would cause illness. That's not logical since we evolved on a planet with yellow sunshine that exposure to it would be damaging. If it were we'd have the night vision of cats and would be nocturnal.

Then they say it's because of a "hole" in the ozone layer. Um am I right under that hole? How does ozone prevent sunlight from being toxic if the rest of our atmosphere doesn't?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Actually, the studies that are missing are the ones that say the sun causes cancer. Sun creates vitamin D in the body, which is a hormone as well as a vitamin. Much of what we've heard about sun was not from scientific study, but generated from sunscreen manufacturers who pushed sunscreen the same way pharms push meds.

Now, what you were not told is that Vitamin D itself is a "cure" for damage caused by sunlight so our natural protection (and getting sun is the natural state of this planet and we were built to survive in our own environments) is right there. Sunlight also produces a sulfur compound that kills cancers. Burning changes DNA - regular amounts of sunlight does not.

What has been studied is Vitamin D deficiency - which causes 11 different cancers and many syndromes.

Many doctors are now coming out and telling people to use only natural sunscreens (because many contain carcinogens, endocrine blockers, etc. And.......you are to use it after optimal exposure has been reached, you don't slap it on as soon as you plan on going out the door - that is misuse and it was never intended to be used that way in the first place.

And yes - burning is damaging and if you burn, you need to use some conteractive control right then. Aloe (fresh, bottled has no potency) is a good start if you have a plant that you can pick a leaf, break it open and spread it. A few days of supplemental Vit D (and that's D3 not D2) since you can't get more from the sun to help counteract damage. Note that you need calcium and magnesium along with D for skin damage. Some L-glutamine to increase glutathione production helps, too.

I spent a lot of years studying this because it didn't make sense to me that normal exposure to sunlight would cause illness. That's not logical since we evolved on a planet with yellow sunshine that exposure to it would be damaging. If it were we'd have the night vision of cats and would be nocturnal.

Then they say it's because of a "hole" in the ozone layer. Um am I right under that hole? How does ozone prevent sunlight from being toxic if the rest of our atmosphere doesn't?

Thanks Sal, glad that we have not had any Diploma wavers so far, and our arguments seem pretty logical.

We have had this misinformation since 1989; basically 25 years of telling us to get 5 minutes of exposure during the least affective time of the day and cover up!

With rampant illness as a result!

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Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Thanks Sal, glad that we have not had any Diploma wavers so far, and our arguments seem pretty logical.

We have had this misinformation since 1989; basically 25 years of telling us to get 5 minutes of exposure during the least affective time of the day and cover up!

That's funny. I've always been advised to get plenty of fresh air and sunshine. I've also known about the benefits of Vitamin D for most of my life.

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HeySal

9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

That's funny. I've always been advised to get plenty of fresh air and sunshine. I've also known about the benefits of Vitamin D for most of my life.

So have I. Frankly, it stuns me when people say their doctors tell them to avoid sunlight. I've never heard one say that. Ever. If a doctor I went to said that, I'd be getting a new doctor.

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Originally Posted by HeySal

So have I. Frankly, it stuns me when people say their doctors tell them to avoid sunlight. I've never heard one say that. Ever. If a doctor I went to said that, I'd be getting a new doctor.

So would I... reminds me of a little song. lol

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tagiscom

9 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

That's funny. I've always been advised to get plenty of fresh air and sunshine. I've also known about the benefits of Vitamin D for most of my life.

Originally Posted by HeySal

So have I. Frankly, it stuns me when people say their doctors tell them to avoid sunlight. I've never heard one say that. Ever. If a doctor I went to said that, I'd be getting a new doctor.

Well, smart parents would, but in AU, we have been getting the coverup, suncreen and wear a hat if going out in the sun message, (since the 80's).

Slip! Slop! Slap! - The Original SunSmart...

Slip! Slop! Slap! Original SunSmart Campaign - SunSmart

So basically if your kids are going outside during summer, throw sunscreen all over them and cover up.

No, wonder certain diseases linked to Vitamin D def, is rampant.

Cute Seagull, but not a good message!

He should have said "if going out in the summer sun, Slip, Slop, Slap after 10 minutes or so".

Back then it could be argued that we didn't know any better, but now, different story!

Here is the updated one, unfortunately it isn't much better than the original.

Put on sunscreen 20 minutes before going outside and cover up as much as possible. Groan, scary!

SLIP SLOP SLAP 2009 - YouTube

Slip, Slop, Slap, Seek & Slide: Sid Seagull - SunSmart

Funny that the original article l linked to on the Alternative Cancer one, has been removed, it just goes to their main page now?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

I spent a lot of years studying this because it didn't make sense to me that normal exposure to sunlight would cause illness. That's not logical since we evolved on a planet with yellow sunshine that exposure to it would be damaging. If it were we'd have the night vision of cats and would be nocturnal.

Then they say it's because of a "hole" in the ozone layer. Um am I right under that hole? How does ozone prevent sunlight from being toxic if the rest of our atmosphere doesn't?

It is "logical" that peoples that evolved paler skin colors in Northern, cloudy climates would be more prone to skin problems due to exposure to the sun due to the evolutionary process of their ancestors.

The rest of our atmosphere DOES help prevent skin cancer caused by the sun. This is a major reason why Colorado has more skin cancer cases per capita than any other state. Lots of sunshine along with less atmosphere equals less more skin cancer.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

I owe my very life to the fact that I told the doctors to stuff it. I'd like to think they were good people, but they knew the drug they had me on was making me sick -- and knew, without telling my family that it was experimental. That, in my book, is criminal. Not saying all doctors are like that - but here in the states many don't know anything about nutrition. They are schooled to diagnose and medicate. Period. Some go beyond and look for logical answers, but if they use treatments that are not sanctioned by our pharmaceutically owned AMA - they get heat, very heavy heat. We've lost a lot of great doctors to foreign countries over it.

Anyway - 15 minutes a side is how I get my first layers of tan. My skin goes golden real fast (caucasian, in the proper sense). If I do that a week running, I can go anywhere and stay out in a bathing suit for hours. I think a lot of people around me are not so fortunate. I never look or feel better, though, than when I have a nice golden tan.

Hmmm, lucky you Sal, l take forever do darken up; but l still have an obvious tan from last summer, so at least l can build on this at the end of the year, (AU summer).

Surprised you don't feel better afterwards, l do feel, good after a session, but also feel tired as well.

But l tend to go out there every second day or one day on, one off.

I have found that every day is too much, or my body will resist the idea of every day exposure!

Some might say that l am asking for trouble with this regime, but l am the one who doesn't look a day over 35, and they look like they have one foot in the grave!

I really feel for seniors who look as white as a ghost, and religiously accept any advise given to them. They might think that avoiding the sun and popping pills will keep them healthy, but, (in my opinion) they are mistaken.

At least when doctors say do half an hour of vigorous exercise a day for it to have any beneficial affect, l won't take this advise at face value.

Common sense says, any exercise of movement is beneficial, or the more the better. But this gets back to oversubscribing health related advise, so most will give up, and go back to less healthy lives.

Originally Posted by Kurt

It is "logical" that peoples that evolved paler skin colors in Northern, cloudy climates would be more prone to skin problems due to exposure to the sun due to the evolutionary process of their ancestors.

The rest of our atmosphere DOES help prevent skin cancer caused by the sun. This is a major reason why Colorado has more skin cancer cases per capita than any other state. Lots of sunshine along with less atmosphere equals less more skin cancer.

Unless Colorado has a high percentage of office workers, going to the Caribbean and coming back red?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Then they say it's because of a "hole" in the ozone layer. Um am I right under that hole? How does ozone prevent sunlight from being toxic if the rest of our atmosphere doesn't?

The hole in the Ozone layer was really a thinning of the Ozone. If there were no Ozone to help reduce the UV radiation, life on land would be impossible.

One reason life didn't come on land, and stayed in the oceans, for so long..is that there was no Ozone layer to stop most of the UV radiation.

And the thinning was over the south pole.

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9 years ago

If I remember rightly, sun exposure, well the rays had been linked to multiple gene mutations some which result in cancer... Can't be bothered to link studies because I've been down this road before but just google "sun exposure gene mutation".

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HeySal

9 years ago

Originally Posted by butters

If I remember rightly, sun exposure, well the rays had been linked to multiple gene mutations some which result in cancer... Can't be bothered to link studies because I've been down this road before but just google "sun exposure gene mutation".

That's over-exposure (burning), not exposure. We evolved in sunlight, as I pointed out above. Vitamin D3 has the power to correct damage from from normal exposure, so you are actually self healing from normal exposure. I've not seen a valid study yet that shows normal sun exposure causes cancers. There's a few out there that were funded by sun screen manufacturers (fox/henhouse).

How many studies are there that show the lack of Vit D3 causes how many cancers and how many syndromes?

Shane - that's really odd, since it was an Aussie Doctor who did the most publicized research exposing the sun/cancer/sunscreen scam.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

That's over-exposure (burning), not exposure. We evolved in sunlight, as I pointed out above. Vitamin D3 has the power to correct damage from from normal exposure, so you are actually self healing from normal exposure. I've not seen a valid study yet that shows normal sun exposure causes cancers. There's a few out there that were funded by sun screen manufacturers (fox/henhouse).

How many studies are there that show the lack of Vit D3 causes how many cancers and how many syndromes?

Shane - that's really odd, since it was an Aussie Doctor who did the most publicized research exposing the sun/cancer/sunscreen scam.

I feel like this argument is being played with semantics... Exposure or over exposure is still exposure... Burning is due to over exposure, so it is the exposure which causes the damage, burning is just the byproduct. Kinda like when you turn the water on, it's cold at first but if you leave your hand under it, it's still the exposure to water which causes the damage.

I'd also like to point out most health professional says over exposure so I'm not really getting the point. Obviously standing in the sun for a short period doesn't cause cancer.

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tagiscom

9 years ago

Originally Posted by butters

I feel like this argument is being played with semantics... Exposure or over exposure is still exposure... Burning is due to over exposure, so it is the exposure which causes the damage, burning is just the byproduct. Kinda like when you turn the water on, it's cold at first but if you leave your hand under it, it's still the exposure to water which causes the damage.

I'd also like to point out most health professional says over exposure so I'm not really getting the point. Obviously standing in the sun for a short period doesn't cause cancer.

Overexposure, could mean, (as media campaigns push) any direct summer sun?

Or does it mean burning?

Don't worry found this....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slip-Slop-Slap

Doctors recommend spending small amounts of time in the sun without sun protection to ensure adequate production of vitamin D

Other supposedly sun related deseases have decreased in AU, since this campaign, but the Melanoma one has increased.

If doctors recommend this, when why is this campaign so See Spot Run?

The stupid Seagull, could say somewhere, that you should get small and regular periods of raw sun exposure for optimum health.

Then after that slap and slop your brains out?

If this campaign if still running, (l don't watch tv) it needs to relay a more balanced message, since it has obviously left a gap in individuals who watch tv.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Overexposure, could mean, (as media campaigns push) any direct summer sun?

Or does it mean burning?

Don't worry found this....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slip-Slop-Slap

No, burning is the byproduct of over exposure. Like an allergic reaction is a byproduct exposure to an alligen.

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whateverpedia

9 years ago

Disclaimer - I've only read the title of this thread so far and none of the OP or replies as yet.

Seriously WTF!!!! Exposure to the sun doesn't cause skin cancer but sunburn does. I repeat, seriously WTF!!!!

Pray tell, what is it that causes sunburn then? Wouldn't that be exposure to the sun?

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9 years ago

Pray tell, what is it that causes sunburn then? Wouldn't that be exposure to the sun?

Oh yikes. You need to read the thread I guess. OVER-EXPOSURE causes burn. Forget it Wped. You don't need sunlight - you're already fried.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Oh yikes. You need to read the thread I guess. OVER-EXPOSURE causes burn. Forget it Wped. You don't need sunlight - you're already fried.

My statement stands due to the fact that in order to be over-exposed you first need to be exposed.

Ask someone with red hair and freckles about how little the difference between exposure and over-exposure is.

It also depends on the time of year as well as geographic location. On a bright and sunny day in winter, I can spend all day outside without getting burnt or being in danger of over-exposure. In summer that time span is reduced to about 15 minutes.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

It also depends on the time of year as well as geographic location. On a bright and sunny day in winter, I can spend all day outside without getting burnt or being in danger of over-exposure. In summer that time span is reduced to about 15 minutes.

Gee, do you think that's why humans who evolved in sunny locations developed dark skin while those who inhabited territories further north had fairer skin?

Not to pick on you, WP, but this whole thread seems like a lesson in the bleedin' obvious. Of course sunlight, being the source of all energy on the planet, is natural and good for us. It provides the mechanism with which our bodies manufacture vitamin D and has a host of other physiological and psychological benefits. The problems start when fair-skinned humans - who have evolved to exist in less-sunny regions - migrate to or vacation in the tropics and encounter conditions for which their bodies are not adapted. You can blame the ease and cheapness of worldwide travel. You can blame fashion and culture for indoctrinating us with the urge to sport suntans. But sunlight isn't the bad boy here.

Originally Posted by tagiscom

I suspected this for a while, if brown skin is considered unhealthy then naturally we wouldn't find it attractive. But we do and have done so, for thousands of years at least!

Firstly, who on earth considers brown skin unhealthy? Secondly, if you're talking about Western society, tanned skin on white people has only been considered "attractive" for around a century or so, when it started to become a status symbol for those rich enough to afford foreign vacations. Before then, it was fashionable (and hence socially desirable) to have pale skin, as only laborers forced to work outdoors had tans.

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9 years ago

I think we are forgetting the obvious.

Superman developed his super powers under a yellow Sun. So, all we need to do is soak up the Sun's rays...and we too will develop super powers.

The Sun also kills vampires. Why nobody has brought this up, puzzles me. And vampires are bad. So, Sunlight is good.

And Sunlight isn't harmful unless you add one thing, a magnifying glass. Ask any ant, on a hot Summer day. Magnifying glasses are the worst. But it's sunlight that gets all the bad press.

That's all for now.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I think we are forgetting the obvious.

Superman developed his super powers under a yellow Sun. So, all we need to do is soak up the Sun's rays...and we too will develop super powers.

The Sun also kills vampires. Why nobody has brought this up, puzzles me. And vampires are bad. So, Sunlight is good.

And Sunlight isn't harmful unless you add one thing, a magnifying glass. Ask any ant, on a hot Summer day. Magnifying glasses are the worst. But it's sunlight that gets all the bad press.

That's all for now.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I think we are forgetting the obvious.

Superman developed his super powers under a yellow Sun. So, all we need to do is soak up the Sun's rays...and we too will develop super powers.

The Sun also kills vampires. Why nobody has brought this up, puzzles me. And vampires are bad. So, Sunlight is good.

And Sunlight isn't harmful unless you add one thing, a magnifying glass. Ask any ant, on a hot Summer day. Magnifying glasses are the worst. But it's sunlight that gets all the bad press.

That's all for now.

According to my Irish friend, it does the same to them. He also spells sunscreen P U B.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Superman developed his super powers under a yellow Sun. So, all we need to do is soak up the Sun's rays...and we too will develop super powers.

Is that your excuse for why you wear your underpants on the outside of your tights?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

Gee, do you think that's why humans who evolved in sunny locations developed dark skin while those who inhabited territories further north had fairer skin?

Not to pick on you, WP, but this whole thread seems like a lesson in the bleedin' obvious. Of course sunlight, being the source of all energy on the planet, is natural and good for us. It provides the mechanism with which our bodies manufacture vitamin D and has a host of other physiological and psychological benefits. The problems start when fair-skinned humans - who have evolved to exist in less-sunny regions - migrate to or vacation in the tropics and encounter conditions for which their bodies are not adapted. You can blame the ease and cheapness of worldwide travel. You can blame fashion and culture for indoctrinating us with the urge to sport suntans. But sunlight isn't the bad boy here.

Firstly, who on earth considers brown skin unhealthy? Secondly, if you're talking about Western society, tanned skin on white people has only been considered "attractive" for around a century or so, when it started to become a status symbol for those rich enough to afford foreign vacations. Before then, it was fashionable (and hence socially desirable) to have pale skin, as only laborers forced to work outdoors had tans.

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Yes, that is the key point here, if Doctors tell us to do something but common sense says otherwise, then don't accept their judgement at face value, do some research, ask around, do a study on animals and what they do!

If you trusted the seagull implicitly, when you would stand a good chance of getting a melanoma cancer, since that key piece of advise is missing?

If l trusted doctors 100%, or more importantly what mass media says, (you would assume that they are one and the same) then l would eventually get sick of a healthy diet and within a few short years be seeing one of them on and off for health related disorders!

They offer good advise but tend to overdo it, or go to far! So it is believable or seems like good advise.

No doubt there are some good doctors out there, but the Phar, company's behind them always have their hands out!

True that fair skinned people going to the tropics and getting burned is a cliche, but they can get decent sun exposure during the summer months in their country, (well, most can) and develop some resistance to burning.

I am fair skinned and get out in the sun, every 2 days in warmer months if possible, to get 15 minutes each side, on as much of myself as possible, so if l went somewhere hot in winter l wouldn't come back red.

As for fashionable, fair enough, but l think that our DNA is wired to be attracted to someone with brown skin, since we can sense that they are healthier as a result!

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I think we are forgetting the obvious.

Superman developed his super powers under a yellow Sun. So, all we need to do is soak up the Sun's rays...and we too will develop super powers.

The Sun also kills vampires. Why nobody has brought this up, puzzles me. And vampires are bad. So, Sunlight is good.

And Sunlight isn't harmful unless you add one thing, a magnifying glass. Ask any ant, on a hot Summer day. Magnifying glasses are the worst. But it's sunlight that gets all the bad press.

That's all for now.

I have alerted all the main Cinema chains in the US, and sent them your mug shot Claude. You won't be allowed to see Ant-man under any circumstances!

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Yes, that is the key point here, if Doctors tell us to do something but common sense says otherwise, then don't accept their judgement at face value, do some research, ask around, do a study on animals and what they do!

If you trusted the seagull implicitly, when you would stand a good chance of getting a melanoma cancer, since that key piece of advise is missing?

If l trusted doctors 100%, or more importantly what mass media says, (you would assume that they are one and the same) then l would eventually get sick of a healthy diet and within a few short years be seeing one of them on and off for health related disorders!

They offer good advise but tend to overdo it, or go to far! So it is believable or seems like good advise.

No doubt there are some good doctors out there, but the Phar, company's behind them always have their hands out!

True that fair skinned people going to the tropics and getting burned is a cliche, but they can get decent sun exposure during the summer months in their country, (well, most can) and develop some resistance to burning.

I am fair skinned and get out in the sun, every 2 days in warmer months if possible, to get 15 minutes each side, on as much of myself as possible, so if l went somewhere hot in winter l wouldn't come back red.

As for fashionable, fair enough, but l think that our DNA is wired to be attracted to someone with brown skin, since we can sense that they are healthier as a result!

I have alerted all the main Cinema chains in the US, and sent them your mug shot Claude. You won't be allowed to see Ant-man under any circumstances!

I owe my very life to the fact that I told the doctors to stuff it. I'd like to think they were good people, but they knew the drug they had me on was making me sick -- and knew, without telling my family that it was experimental. That, in my book, is criminal. Not saying all doctors are like that - but here in the states many don't know anything about nutrition. They are schooled to diagnose and medicate. Period. Some go beyond and look for logical answers, but if they use treatments that are not sanctioned by our pharmaceutically owned AMA - they get heat, very heavy heat. We've lost a lot of great doctors to foreign countries over it.

Anyway - 15 minutes a side is how I get my first layers of tan. My skin goes golden real fast (caucasian, in the proper sense). If I do that a week running, I can go anywhere and stay out in a bathing suit for hours. I think a lot of people around me are not so fortunate. I never look or feel better, though, than when I have a nice golden tan.

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Kurt

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

Gee, do you think that's why humans who evolved in sunny locations developed dark skin while those who inhabited territories further north had fairer skin?

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Originally Posted by whateverpedia

Partially true. Inuit people have darker skin than your average Viking descendant.

Just sayin'.

Inuit/Eskimo are descended from Asians and came to the Americas over the Bering Ice Bridge during the last ice age. Their darker skin color evolved while they were in Asia.

One popular theory is light skin evolved in order to absorb more sun in the North where there is less sunshine and people wore more clothes.

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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

Is that your excuse for why you wear your underpants on the outside of your tights?

I wear my underpants over my pants for the same reason Superman does..... It prevents pick pocketing.

And these aren't tights. They are regular pants. They just fit like tights....as do all my pants.....because I'm heavy.......

Nobody loves me.

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lanfear63

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I wear my underpants over my pants for the same reason Superman does..... It prevents pick pocketing.

And these aren't tights. They are regular pants. They just fit like tights....as do all my pants.....because I'm heavy.......

Nobody loves me.

The crotchless tights and dress pants Kurt found in your top drawer tell a different story.

Yes Kurt is a professional Burglar

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Dan Riffle 9 years ago

Originally Posted by lanfear63

Yes Kurt is a professional Burglar

Sounds pretty amateur if you know about it.
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whateverpedia

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

Gee, do you think that's why humans who evolved in sunny locations developed dark skin while those who inhabited territories further north had fairer skin?.

Partially true. Inuit people have darker skin than your average Viking descendant.

Just sayin'.

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Dan Riffle 9 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

Partially true. Inuit people have darker skin than your average Viking descendant.

Just sayin'.

Inuit are a bit of an outlier due to their extreme diets:

Inuits live in very cold climates, why do they have dark skin? » Scienceline
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Frank Donovan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

Partially true. Inuit people have darker skin than your average Viking descendant.
Just sayin'.

Ever been skiing? The reflections off the snow intensify the sun's rays and can make them equivalent in strength to those found in the tropics.
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Floyd Fisher

9 years ago

Here's another sacred cow about to tip over.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...20on%20Fat.pdf

That article is a reprint from Time Magazine....and it could have profound implications for diet.

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HeySal

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher

Here's another sacred cow about to tip over.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...20on%20Fat.pdf

That article is a reprint from Time Magazine....and it could have profound implications for diet.

That one's already under the bus. I never bought into that one. I've seen people taking statin drugs for cholesterol and wonder if anyone ever told them the danger of long term use of those drugs.............or that you can beat high cholesterol with aerobic exercise.

One of the things that really irked me is that a lot of doctors would treat men and women the same yet women actually need more cholesterol than men. Those doctors put a lot of women in a world of hurt. Then there's the guy I knew who became phobic of cholesterol and cleaned it out of his system so well that he started losing blood because it was all leaking out of his veins. He almost died from it. Seems to me that that scam was more food industry induced "science" than biological research. Even nurses know that you need fat to maintain the fat coating around cells.

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bojan92

9 years ago

You have to be very careful when you expose yourself to sun on very hot days without any sun cream. It may cause nausea, sun burns and even cancer.

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butters 9 years ago

Originally Posted by bojan92

You have to be very careful when you expose yourself to sun on very hot days without any sun cream. It may cause nausea, sun burns and even cancer.

Someone read the back of the bottle.
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tagiscom 9 years ago

Originally Posted by bojan92

You have to be very careful when you expose yourself to sun on very hot days without any sun cream. It may cause nausea, sun burns and even cancer.

I recommend rereading this thread!

I usually go out on 40d days to add to my tan, and don't get any of that!

And as it has be said several times, exposure to the sun, for short periods is beneficial, and will actually reduce Cancer!

But getting burned, probably increases it?
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