Can anybody help with a computer tech problem, please?

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My computer was recently infested with a sales system called Windows System Suite that denied access to any of my computer proceses until I had been through several screens (and piggy squeals) warning me of a virus or trojan infestation.

This was simply an orchestrated blitz to try to get me to pay Windows System Suite so that they would leave me alone.

I finally managed to get rid of this nightmare (it took about six hours because the damn thing kept re-installing itself) but now I cannot access any of my Google accounts - I get a message that the web site cannot be displayed. My older machine displays Google quite happily so it is definitely a problem with my computer.

I have tried to adjust browser settings but that has made no difference and I have used System Restore for a date two days before I became aware of the WSS infestation (it could have been dormant before attacking).

Any ideas, anybody?
  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    Run a cleaner and clear your cache.

    Such as free download from ccleaner.com - (crap cleaner)

    Do applications/windows - delete all files
    Then Sweep the registry - fix all issues

    If that doesn't help:

    Go to Start
    Go to Run
    Type 'regedit' (without ' and ')

    Go to HKEY__LOCALMACHINE/
    Go to Software

    Search for a folder with the name of the program you want to nix.

    CAREFULLY delete the folder - if you can't, then click on it to open it and delete the files in there, then go back and delete the folder. (careful not to delete any other folder as this may cause a program you do want, not to work)

    Reboot your PC.

    (if you don't find the folder there search the other H_KEY directories)


    The 'damn thing kept reinstalling itself' is indicative that there is some remnant or fragment in the Registry. (that is if it isn't a real malicious worm and more than adware)
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Usher
    Go here and download MalwareBytes Anti-Malware program.

    Malwarebytes.org

    It's free and is the best program I have found for detecting and removing all sorts of Trojans etc you never knew you had. That should really clean up your system.

    Jeff
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Jeff is right, malwarebyte is one of the tools I tell people about in that report I offered to send you.
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  • Profile picture of the author acreativetouch
    My mac is running so slow, it reminds me of the day when I first started using computers. I would go to lunch while waiting for a letter to send to the printer. I've cleaned out my cache, cookies, etc, and it's still painfully slow. Need to upgrade or get a new computer.

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  • Profile picture of the author ralphalt
    Another recommendation for malwarebytes and also you should turn off system restore and run a program like CleanUp first before running th malware scanner.
    Oh and try to uninstall the program System Suite or whatever it is called, first.
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  • Profile picture of the author ralphalt
    You may need to uninstall, reinstall or upgrade Internet Explorer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    if it comes to that

    uninstall explorer and then install a decent browser /firefox/chrome/safari

    i think you should not assume it is malware first, until you rule out the normal possibilities.

    worst case scenario then you take action for malware.

    knock on wood big time, i can't believe all the crap with security/malware issues so many suffer. i never get that stuff. and all i use is the much maligned mcafee security suite and do regular maintenance on files - for 20+years, now with an added router; like i said knock on wood knock on wood.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    It's already been determined it's malware. He's also been given the tools to fix it.
    So Art, are you still having a problem?
    I see no reason to uninstall internet explorer, it's a browser that does what it is suppose to do and like MaCafee, much maligned.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
    One thing that has completely saved my bacon once, is Avast. When you download it and first install it, you have the option of running a boot time scan when you first start it. If you select that option, it stops your computer half way through the restart (needed to complete the install) and does a scan when nothing else is moving. It found 2 files when I was under attack and I was happy to allow it to delete (or whatever) them and everything was back to normal.

    I've suggested to them by their feedback form that it would be nice if this boot time scan was available any time but so far they haven't listened to me (!)

    The only way I've been able to do it again is uninstall Avast, download and install it again, and select that scan again. Since it is the only thing that is moving at that time, it does the scan really fast. I didn't have a huge load on the puter at that time, probably around 100 gb, but it took less than half an hour.
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  • Profile picture of the author artwebster
    Hi,

    Thanks for the great help and ideas.

    I have been able to remove Windows Security Suite so I do not have that problem but the removal which took the combined efforts of Spybot S & D and Malwarebytes has left me with a very shaky I.E. 7.

    I cannot access any of my Google accounts - IE 7 says the web siite does not exist - nor can I always click on a link in search results and be taken to the site I selected. Often I am taken to a .com generic page or another search engine log in page.

    The problem is duplicated on Firefox so it isn't a unique IE problem but none of my browser settings seems to provide a solution. If worst comes to worst, I might try to upgrade to I.E. 8 and hope the latest updates have improved it and re-install Firefox.

    My very old computer can still access my Google accounts and I have compared browser settings between them but there are no differences.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    You might need to try something else then Art.
    Download and run this program:
    WinSock XP Fix Freeware download and review - fix XP internet connectivity from SnapFiles
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    you have what is called a redirect virus.

    you might try pulling a copy of firefox and see if you can access with that.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Michael,he said:
    "The problem is duplicated on Firefox so it isn't a unique IE problem but none of my browser settings seems to provide a solution. If worst comes to worst, I might try to upgrade to I.E. 8 and hope the latest updates have improved it and re-install Firefox."

    BUt you might also add this to your arsenal Art:
    Ad-Aware Free - Download security software for spyware removal - Lavasoft
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  • Profile picture of the author artwebster
    I have tried just about everything and nothing changed the results. I have now upgraded to IE8 but the problem persists with the added information that there is a DNS error when I try to access Google accounts.

    My search results are now mainly Spanish and French sites so I am wondering if there is a setting where I can opt for English/American search results.

    IE 8 is running excruciating slowly - it is almost as though my machine goes into hibernation mode.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Did you update malwarebyte and the do athrough scan in safe mode?
    It sounds like you are still infected like Michael said.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    try a program called 'hijack this'

    its made specifically for hijack virus.

    if you added firefox, then told it to import your i.e. settings during installation then all you did was move the problem to firefox.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    Did you try the registry cleaning process at all? Either the crap cleaner or the manual process?

    Whether or not if it is "cleaned" malware, if you still have fragments from the program it can cause issues.

    Then again you may have to reinstall Windows unless that snap thingy Kim gave you works or the hijack one from Michael.

    You poor man - this does sound like something serious and so many people telling you different things to do...

    I cannot use IE at all - I have deleted 7 and reinstalled it, etc several times - wouldn't dare even try IE8 because of all the problems I have had with IE 6 and 7.

    It is completely slowed down and locks up my computer if I use it.

    Firefox is a nag but it works and Chrome is ok too.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Patrician View Post

      You poor man - this does sound like something serious and so many people telling you different things to do....
      Well HEY, he installed the worst virus on his system ever known to computer kind!!!!!!

      M/S WINDOWS! So what do you expect? And even M/S won't help you!!!!! That is why even THEY suggest THIRD PARTY software to keep people from further exploiting it, and third parties have little access to ANYTHING! Nobody does it 100%.

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author artwebster
    I have used every malware and antivirus programme I can lay my hands on as well as all those suggested in these responses. The Firefox browser (which was installed a year ago) was affected even though I did not use it while Windows Security Suite was trying to blackmail me.

    It seems strange that IE8 is indicating a DNS error.

    As for MS Windows being the worst possible virus - it never created this problem before so I don't know how to answer that assertion.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by artwebster View Post

      I have used every malware and antivirus programme I can lay my hands on as well as all those suggested in these responses. The Firefox browser (which was installed a year ago) was affected even though I did not use it while Windows Security Suite was trying to blackmail me.

      It seems strange that IE8 is indicating a DNS error.

      As for MS Windows being the worst possible virus - it never created this problem before so I don't know how to answer that assertion.
      OK, NOW you are starting to sound a BIT more logical.... 8-)

      1. look at c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

      It will likely have lines prefixed with #, and a line that says:

      127.0.0.1 localhost

      Put a ## in front of any other line that has data on it.

      2. Do you have a CUSTOM wireless services app, such as smith micros(verizon calls it vzaccess)? If YES, start it up, and make sure it connects to the system. If NO, start up the wireless zero configuration service, and make sure you can connect.

      Can you connect to the server? GREAT! You are CLOSER!

      in a cmd window, type:

      ipconfig/release

      Did it give errors? If no, you may be CLOSER!

      ipconfig/renew

      Did it give errors? If no, you may be CLOSER!

      3. Try IE again!

      If it fails, tell us the device you are using to hook to the internet, carrier, and what ipconfig/renew returns.

      BTW oddly this affects some wired connections as well as wireless. 1 makes sure your dns hosts are setup to not interfere, but loopback is enabled. 2 makes sure your drivers are ok, for wireless at least. 3 makes sure routing and dhcp is ok. I would discuss it more, but microsoft has dedicated whole books to this, and they are large. This USUALLY works on its own. If it fails, you have to get more involved. EVEN if it fails, it may pinpoint WHAT is failing.

      Steve

      BTW windows really IS a piece of garbage, and invades EVERYTHING! So it really does meet the defnition of a virus. XPSP2 disabled some of the virus like features, and maybe you recall what happened!
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
      Originally Posted by artwebster View Post

      I have used every malware and antivirus programme I can lay my hands on as well as all those suggested in these responses. The Firefox browser (which was installed a year ago) was affected even though I did not use it while Windows Security Suite was trying to blackmail me.

      It seems strange that IE8 is indicating a DNS error.

      As for MS Windows being the worst possible virus - it never created this problem before so I don't know how to answer that assertion.
      well are you sure you dont have a dns error? Usually a dns error means you have an error with your isp as that is usually where your DNS information resides. maybe your isp is having some kind of an issue.

      before you call them, let me just say that i have never seen an isp that is having an issue. you can call them when their building is on fire and they will tell you everything is ok and that you need to call your computer manufacturer.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

        well are you sure you dont have a dns error? Usually a dns error means you have an error with your isp as that is usually where your DNS information resides. maybe your isp is having some kind of an issue.

        before you call them, let me just say that i have never seen an isp that is having an issue. you can call them when their building is on fire and they will tell you everything is ok and that you need to call your computer manufacturer.
        Michael is right here, and SOME of those issues will become OBVIOUS with the ipconfig/renew(One thing it does is request IP setup details from the host(aka ISP in this case). That is known as DHCP(Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol). With SOME ISPs, you can ping the gateway, and that will tell you if THEY are bad. Sadly, that is one of the easiest ways to start a DoS attack, so SOME disable that ability. So a response will indicate that something else is ok, and a non reponse only says there MIGHT be a problem.

        ALSO, Michael is right in that you can NOT trust what the ISP says.

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    nolol - the 'latest and greatest' or 'most horrible ever'...

    microsoft just announced the last week or so that it has yet another off-cycle PATCH. they are always BEHIND the fricking 8-ball.

    these security breaches are exactly why Firefox is anything right now.

    but like i say they are a horrible nag and i have most of the security disabled in order to be able to function using FF (why i also use Chrome simultaneously)

    Malicious Software (malware) can wreak havoc - they can destroy your hard drive/hardware, destroy your Windows System Configuration, corrupt applications, or just mess with you and make your life a nightmare for a while.

    (plugin here: my vision of malware makers hanging by their fingernails in the Arabian desert)

    MICROSOFT IS THE ONE WITH THE VULNERABILITIES THAT EXPOSE US TO THESE VULNERABILITIES.

    EXPLORER IS TIED TO WINDOWS SYSTEM NO MATTER WHAT BROWSER YOU ARE USING EVEN AS THE DEFAULT.

    THAT IS EXACTLY WHY A MALICIOUS ATTACK ON WINDOWS CAN USUALLY ONLY BE FIXED BY A COMPLETE REINSTALLATION IF THE MALWARE REMOVER DID NOT MOP UP THE BLOOD.

    been there. (not from a virus) from BOTH hardware failure and to my antics (back in the day) blowing up my FAT once, by opening the control panel, while wide open with PacBel trying to install their internet service, way down in the guts. Mess with DOS* which fried segments on my hard drive permanently.

    lol - DOS - Disk Operating System*

    nowadays speaking of the devil, DOS stands for Denial of Service.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Did you try winsock fix?
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    might also want to try rebuildig the ip stack, or could just be as simple as rebooting the modem.
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  • Profile picture of the author artwebster
    After a dramatic day at the hospital yesterday I have finally managed to get connected to my Google accounts but don't know which particular item fixed it.

    IE8 seems to be running OK but Fire Fox is its usual old granny self - questioning everything I try to do.

    The only remaining problem is that my computer appears to be using alot of RAM even when the indications are that there is nothing trying to use it. I have noticed that the computer seems to go to sleep in the middle of opening some web pages - very frustrating but it gets there eventually (37 seconds to open WF!)

    Thanks for all the help.
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