'Redskins' Name banned in California

by discrat

Posted: 9 years ago 21 replies

OFF TOPIC

Appropriate or being too thin skinned and bowing down to PC groups ?

California to ban 'Redskins' for school sports, keep Confederate building names

ThomM

9 years ago

But Brown, who last year signed a bill outlawing the sale of faux Confederate currency at the state Capitol gift shop, said local decision-makers should choose names for schools and parks.

But not their sports teams. What an idiot.

Thanks

Signature

Life: Nature's way of keeping meat fresh
Getting old ain't for sissy's
As you are I was, as I am you will be
You can't fix stupid, but you can always out smart it.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10330364].message }}

Tom Addams 9 years ago

Interesting and relevant:

Is 'Redskins' a racial slur? Blackfeet weigh in

- Tom
- Thanks
Signature

I Coach: Learn More | My Latest WF Thread: Dead Domains/ Passive Traffic
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10330370].message }}
TLTheLiberator 9 years ago

If the vast majority of native Americans don't like it - should people use it??

I think not - as a common curtesy.

67 Percent of Native Americans Say

I have a feeling that the 67% number against it is more true than the surveys claiming the majority of native Americans have no problem with the name.
- Thanks
- 1 reply
Signature

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. -- Mark Twain
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10330394].message }}
- TimPhelan 9 years ago
  
  Appropriate.
  
  Thanks
  
  Signature
  Over 50 Dating
  
  {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10330402].message }}

yukon

Banned 9 years ago

Brave: An American Indian warrior

I guess the Braves is also offensive. This shit wouldn't happen If everyone would stop voting for change.

BTW, It would be nice to own 1,500th share of a casino because of something that happened +200 years ago.

Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10330695].message }}

TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

I guess the Braves is also offensive.

Surely you can see the difference between a name for a warrior or a tribe like the Seminoles, or the Fighting Irish and a word that has been considered an ethnic slur for a 100 years? Do you think it would be ok to name a team The Wet Backs or the Slope Heads or The Slant Eyes or The Towel Heads?

[ 1 ] Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Over 50 Dating

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10330718].message }}

yukon

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

So the Fighting Irish aren't terrorist?

See how stupid the rant is?

Vote Trump 2016.

Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10330724].message }}

TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

So the Fighting Irish aren't terrorist?

See how stupid the rant is?

Vote Trump 2016.

Terrorists don't fight.

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Over 50 Dating

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10330730].message }}

yukon

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Terrorists don't fight.

Looks like a vote for Sarah Palin.

Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10330732].message }}

Kay King

9 years ago

Wow - California has a huge drought - forest fires - eocnomic problems due to both of those and more....but there's time to mandate political correctness....

Our local university changed from Redskins to Red Hawks back in the 90's....it took about 10-15 years of dithering and fussing...but they got it done. Between 1970 and the 90's the Indian graphic used to portray the "Redskins" was by an artist and approved for use by the Chief of the Miami Indian tribe.

I have no idea what real American Indians think about it - all the fussing I've seen over use of "Indians" or "Redskins" has been from the PC police.

I think a name deemed offensive to a group of people should not be used. Just don't think a state needs to be dictating it.

That said - I wouldn't changed a damned thing for people like this woman:

A female Native American speaker led a crowd in a chant of “down, down USA” at the Million Man March in Washington, D.C., on Saturday.

Not surprising there are people like this woman - but I'm always shocked by how quickly others are willing to join the chant. Wonder how many doing the chanting collect govt benefits....

[ 2 ] Thanks
2 replies

Signature

Saving one dog will not change the world - but the world changes forever for that one dog

***

Dear April: I don't want any trouble from you.

January was long, February was iffy, March was a freaking dumpster fire.

So sit down, be quiet, and don't touch anything.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10330743].message }}

TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Our local university changed from Redskins to Red Hawks back in the 90's....it took about 10-15 years of dithering and fussing...

So, 10 to 15 years of dithering and fussing is preferable to a very simple bill? Confused.

By the way, we're doing just fine out here dispite the fires and drought, thank you.
- Thanks
- 1 reply
Signature
Over 50 Dating
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10330837].message }}
- Kay King 9 years ago
  
  This was back in the mid-80s to late 90's - before everyone else jumped on the PC bandwagon. Yes, it took debate and consensus and quite a bit of dithering. Part of that was BECAUSE the Miami Indian tribe had approved the "mascot". One group thought it was not right to use "Indians" - while another thought it might be an insult to stop using the term.
  
  In the end - they reached what I think is the right decision - 15 years before California had to mandate it - and they did it by people compromising and coming together...rather than by a dictate.
  
  Yes, I think that's a better way. The will of the people might be slow and messy but it's far better than the whims of govt.
  
  [ 1 ] Thanks
  
  1 reply
  
  Signature
  
  Saving one dog will not change the world - but the world changes forever for that one dog
  ***
  Dear April: I don't want any trouble from you.
  January was long, February was iffy, March was a freaking dumpster fire.
  So sit down, be quiet, and don't touch anything.
  
  {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10330909].message }}
  
  TimPhelan 9 years ago
  
  California didn't "have" to mandate it. We just did and became the first state to do so as we have often done in the past on many issues. Other cities have "mandated" the same thing including Houston Texas and Madison, Wisconsin, but no state had done so.
  
  By the way, we had a simular situation in a local college back in 1972. Several hundred Native American students ( not pc police ) petitioned Stanford to change their sports name which was the Indians. The student body voted and agreed. Then the President made a ruling and changed the name. All within a few months. Not 25 years of dithering and fussing. Lol
  
  [ 1 ] Thanks
  
  Signature
  Over 50 Dating
  
  {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10331012].message }}

TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Wonder how many doing the chanting collect govt benefits....

Probably less than at an average tea party get together where they rant against the government.

[ 1 ] Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Over 50 Dating

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10331026].message }}

Joe Mobley

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Probably less than at an average tea party get together where they rant against the government.

That would be ranting against the current socialist government.

...

And I prefer coffee.

Joe Mobley

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Follow Me on Twitter: @daVinciJoe

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10331080].message }}

TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Mobley

That would be ranting against the current socialist government.

...

And I prefer coffee.

Joe Mobley

Hardly socialist. Remember the top 10 most prosperous countries who you wanted us to compete against? All WAY more socialist.

I prefer coffee too.

[ 2 ] Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Over 50 Dating

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10331103].message }}

Kay King

9 years ago

Wow, I was wrong. I thought Tim was in the Northeast - something he posted about NYC and a schedule of dates or something. I had it wrong - he's in California...explains a lot.

P.S. - Forget it, Joe. TP is one of the handful here that are permitted to go political. Not worth the digital ink to worry about it.

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Saving one dog will not change the world - but the world changes forever for that one dog

***

Dear April: I don't want any trouble from you.

January was long, February was iffy, March was a freaking dumpster fire.

So sit down, be quiet, and don't touch anything.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10331175].message }}

discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Wow, I was wrong. I thought Tim was in the Northeast - something he posted about NYC and a schedule of dates or something. I had it wrong - he's in California...explains a lot.

P.S. - Forget it, Joe. TP is one of the handful here that are permitted to go political. Not worth the digital ink to worry about it.

Kay,
thats pure blasphemy for any die hard Warriors fan to be mistaken as living in the land of Melo

[ 1 ] Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10331255].message }}

TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Kay,
thats pure blasphemy for any die hard Warriors fan to be mistaken as living in the land of Melo

Lol. But I love NYC also. Not the Knicks or Phil Jackson though. Btw saw the score from the Spurs game tonight. All I can say is Tim Duncan is unreal! And he and Aldridge together will be tough to beat.

[ 1 ] Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Over 50 Dating

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10331270].message }}

discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Man Im slipping. Had to be over at the inlaws all night. And missed this

Thnx for heads up

Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10331317].message }}

TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Man Im slipping. Had to be over at the inlaws all night. And missed this

Thnx for heads up

They lost, but Duncan was 7 for 7 fg, 6 rbs 2 asts in 19 minutes and Aldridge had a good game too, 17 pnts.
- Thanks
Signature
Over 50 Dating
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[10331336].message }}

'Redskins' Name banned in California

Trending Topics

Been a while! Any of you Old Timers here?

How much does the rebranding affect CR ?

Are billboards still effective in driving customers?

Boat and Jet Ski Rentals...... Door Hangers Effective?

A Very Strange Internet Problem