If You Don't Want Your Kids to Be 'Assaulted' by the Cops, Teach Them to Respect Authority

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If You Don't Want Your Kids to Be 'Assaulted' by the Cops, Teach Them to Respect Authority

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    Such as respecting the POTUS?
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    I don't teach my son to respect authority. That would be hypocritical, since I don't respect authority myself. I do advise him not to get into needless trouble and that involves abiding by rules, for the sake of order, not out of fake respect.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      We already have am 8 page thread regarding this. Do we really need a new one? This article doesn't add anything new to the discussion except an obvious right wing slant. By the way, I've seen plenty of people condemn the actions of that cop who aren't progressive including several in this forum.
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        We already have am 8 page thread regarding this. Do we really need a new one? This article doesn't add anything new to the discussion except an obvious right wing slant. By the way, I've seen plenty of people condemn the actions of that cop who aren't progressive including several in this forum.
        Yeah. I think Joe's trying to make his skewed point again. He takes it bad when he loses out in the bigger threads.
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    • Profile picture of the author Doran Peck
      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      I don't teach my son to respect authority. That would be hypocritical, since I don't respect authority myself. I do advise him not to get into needless trouble and that involves abiding by rules, for the sake of order, not out of fake respect.
      Excellent sentiments Thunderbird. The article does a fair job of pointing out that the girl didn't even show the minimum amount of "respect" that was reasonable and common in that environment....specifically as you promoted above.

      It seems there is growing mumblings in society that perhaps there is a noticeable increase in the lack of that minimum effort to not get into needless trouble that involves abiding by the rules.

      hopefully we as parents can rise to the challenge and strengthen that attribute in the next generation.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    I don't think we need another thread.

    No need to split hairs over the definitions of respect and obedience, and the appearance of
    respectful or obedient behavior as needed.

    Hopefully parents can do a good job in this crazy world of teaching their kids when to
    go along to get the best result, and when to go into full fight, or run, like hell mode.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

    Well looky here,

    If You Don’t Want Your Kids to Be ‘Assaulted’ by the Cops, Teach Them to Respect Authority

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    No. Simple as that. You wouldn't be so gung ho authority if the authority were making you pay a tax you didn't think you should pay or eliminating some right you think you have, now would you? You are very protective of your second amendment rights but not so much the first amendment ... right?

    Respect is earned.

    By the way, it actually isn't in a cop's job description to assault people who do not respect them. I know that may be shocking to you.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_cop


    “Simply telling a cop to go screw himself is not illegal,” said Denver lawyer David Lane. “The First Amendment lives in a rough neighborhood and if you can’t stand the neighborhood move to China … or somewhere the First Amendment does not exist.”


    Last week, Lane’s client, Bob McIntosh, got a $20,000 settlement from Boulder County over his arrest on Oct. 1.


    McIntosh was pulled over for going 41 mph in a 20 mph school zone and used profanity at Deputy Sheriff Tim Lynch because he got a ticket.



    A police report shows McIntosh repeatedly swore at the deputy and called him a vulgar name and the deputy told him if he didn’t control his language he would be arrested. McIntosh was arrested and charged with disobeying a police officer. The charge was later dropped.


    Boulder County decided to pay up when McIntosh indicated he would sue because the U.S. Supreme Court recognizes that verbal criticism of a police officer is protected speech and McIntosh’s arrest on that charge was a violation of the First Amendment.


    “If it is a situation where somebody is unhappy and vocalizing they are unhappy the courts have decided that police officers have to be able to take it,” said Boulder County Sheriff Commander Rick Brough. “We have to deal with different things than other citizens do. You just have to be thick-skinned sometimes.”


    Just a month ago, prosecutors dismissed a case against Shane Boor, a man who flipped off a state trooper on C-470 near West Bowles Avenue in Jefferson County because his actions are protected under the Constitution.


    The law draws the line at interfering with a police officer in the course of their job or threatening a cop, so choose your words wisely.

    Swearing at or flipping off a police officer is probably rude, but it’s speech that’s protected by the First Amendment.
    http://blogs.denverpost.com/crime/20...or-illegal/48/
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    There's a difference between respect & keeping your mouth shut to avoid abuse.









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    Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

    [Warning: This article deals with facts, logic and reason.]
    Then I respectfully request that you immediately remove it from this forum. It simply has no place, here!

    Cheers. - Frank
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      Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

      Then I respectfully request that you immediately remove it from this forum. It simply has no place, here!

      Cheers. - Frank
      Don't worry Frank. It has the usual bias, so it is nothing more really than right wing spin, so it can stay.

      The first line:
      Let’s take a look at the latest bit of evidence presented by the left to prove that law enforcement in America is nothing more than a racist conspiracy against black folks.
      TheBlaze is an independent news and entertainment television network and website founded by conservative talk radio personality and entrepreneur >>> Glenn Beck.<<<
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        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        Don't worry Frank. It has the usual bias, so it is nothing more really than right wing spin, so it can stay.

        The first line:
        Glenn Beck = chimp cranium filled with projectile diarrhea. And that's on a good day!

        Cheers. - Frank
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    Darn. I thought I posted the thread ender earlier. LOL

    One thing we don't want is another Hitler. Extreme example, I know,
    yet it did happen.

    Never forget.

    Always have and teach good judgment. There are bad eggs, Stranger Danger,
    date rape and date rape drugs....
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

      Darn. I thought I posted the thread ender earlier. LOL

      One thing we don't want is another Hitler. Extreme example, I know,
      yet it did happen.

      Never forget. Always have good judgment.
      ... and yet, the majority seem to just spout off the same old "respect authority" mantra. lol. Like little yes sir, no sir, anything you say bots. I had enough sense to survive cops and taught my children the same, but by no means did I teach them undeserved respect.

      Neither myself nor my children led a criminal life, but some of these people are getting shot down or assaulted in routine traffic stops ... and then there's the teen thing for a cellphone.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    I've had some experiences with bad cops or troopers. Traffic stops. Nothing major bad, just jerks really.
    To me in those situations, but enough to make wonder how bad they can get.

    One thing I will do is file a letter for their personnel file so it does get considered if they get up for a raise or promotion
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      I noticed people with extreme views, never think they are at the extreme. They always think that are in the middle.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I noticed people with extreme views, never think they are at the extreme. They always think that are in the middle.
        I notice that some people think always being in the middle is a good thing.
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        • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          I notice that some people think always being in the middle is a good thing.
          "We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. They get run over."
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

            "We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. They get run over."
            ~Ambrose Bierce
            There are a fair amount of things I am in the middle because I don't really care enough about it either way. Police brutalizing unarmed citizens isn't one of them.
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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

            lol ... I often think that you don't really care at all about the issue, and that would qualify as not being in the middle or either end. But I don't know for certain because your stance is never really apparent.
            And that's insightful.

            It's not my habit to take a stance. I have a few things I feel strongly about, but to me, it's always the argument that is more interesting than the subject.

            You are right, I don't care about the issue. And when I read posts from people that feel strongly, one way or the other, that intensity they have is magnified.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          I notice that some people think always being in the middle is a good thing.
          Good comeback.

          But I'm never in the middle....unless you are suggesting.....Hey!
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            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Good comeback.

            But I'm never in the middle....unless you are suggesting.....Hey!
            lol ... I often think that you don't really care at all about the issue, and that would qualify as not being in the middle or either end. But I don't know for certain because your stance is never really apparent.
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I noticed people with extreme views, never think they are at the extreme. They always think that are in the middle.
        If I were to start a political party, I'd call it the Idea Party. Of course it's very subjective, but I like to think I'm for the best, most pragmatic ideas and practicable solutions.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

          If I were to start a political party, I'd call it the Idea Party. Of course it's very subjective, but I like to think I'm for the best, most pragmatic ideas and practicable solutions.
          You would get nowhere. Being fair minded and rational doesn't appeal to the people at the ends of the spectrum. They are the most passionate voters. They vote in large numbers. Rational people are less passionate about positions, and are more willing to compromise. And they are less likely to contribute, and less likely to vote.

          Anyone that would say, "Sure, I'd work with the other side, we aren't the only people with good ideas"...would get nowhere politically. And no news organization would cover you.

          You never hear, "And here is Bob Jones with 3 rational ideas that will take work on our part"

          You hear, "Senator Bob Jones says that the president voted secretly to outlaw chocolate".
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            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            You would get nowhere. Being fair minded and rational doesn't appeal to the people at the ends of the spectrum. They are the most passionate voters. They vote in large numbers. Rational people are less passionate about positions, and are more willing to compromise. And they are less likely to contribute, and less likely to vote.

            Anyone that would say, "Sure, I'd work with the other side, we aren't the only people with good ideas"...would get nowhere politically. And no news organization would cover you.

            You never hear, "And here is Bob Jones with 3 rational ideas that will take work on our part"

            You hear, "Senator Bob Jones says that the president voted secretly to outlaw chocolate".
            But, but, but we all love Kay. LOL

            Seriously, I know, but it's how I think. I don't believe in having to believe in a party's "platform"
            or approach to world problems...

            A girlfriend of mine was in a "Young ______" group and she presented an idea that was popular
            in the other party. Her group just about had her in tears at the meeting. I left it blank because I
            don't think it matters which party she was in - the results would have been the same.

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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

              A girlfriend of mine was in a "Young ______" group and she presented an idea that was popular
              in the other party. Her group just about had her in tears at the meeting. I left it blank because I
              don't think it matters which party she was in - the results would have been the same.
              Both parties act as tribes, but one party seems to more than the other.

              And yeah, even if they have an idea, and the other side agrees with it, suddenly they are against their own idea. Politics more and more just appeals to the lizard part of the brain; Everything on the other side is treated as a threat to your position.

              Thirty years ago, a mall was being proposed in our small town. There was a meeting of all the retail store owners (all were on the Right). Maybe 300 in all.

              They kept saying how the mall would destroy their business, and we had to fight it.

              I raised my hand and said something like, "We make up less that half a percent of the town. And we want to deny everyone else the shopping option, because we will finally have to compete? The mall would bring in jobs, shoppers, and would increase our businesses."

              You would have thought that I just killed a baby. Stone silence for a minute. And a friend(up until that moment) turned to me , and told me to leave. And there are still shop owners in town that won't talk to me.

              Humans.
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              • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


                And yeah, even if they have an idea, and the other side agrees with it, suddenly they are against their own idea.
                The best example is the ACA. Honestly, I can't think of an example from the other side. Not trying to be argumentative. I'm sure there is one from the other side but I can't come up with one.

                Thirty years ago, a mall was being proposed in our small town. There was a meeting of all the retail store owners (all were on the Right). Maybe 300 in all.

                They kept saying how the mall would destroy their business, and we had to fight it.

                I raised my hand and said something like, "We make up less that half a percent of the town. And we want to deny everyone else the shopping option, because we will finally have to compete? The mall would bring in jobs, shoppers, and would increase our businesses."

                You would have thought that I just killed a baby. Stone silence for a minute. And a friend(up until that moment) turned to me , and told me to leave. And there are still shop owners in town that won't talk to me.

                Humans.
                Good story and good for you, Claude. ( not being sarcastic btw )
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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                  The best example is the ACA. Honestly, I can't think of an example from the other side. Not trying to be argumentative. I'm sure there is one from the other side but I can't come up with one.

                  I get that completely. I'm also assuming there is something like that on the other side. I can't think of anything, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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                  • Profile picture of the author discrat
                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    I get that completely. I'm also assuming there is something like that on the other side. I can't think of anything, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
                    Wait a second. I thought you didn't believe in the "other side"?

                    Claude, some here must be influencing you about the afterlife lol
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                  Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                  The best example is the ACA. Honestly, I can't think of an example from the other side. Not trying to be argumentative. I'm sure there is one from the other side but I can't come up with one.
                  Feel free to start a thread...


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                    Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

                    Feel free to start a thread...


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                    Naw. I think we can keep it in this one. You have any examples?
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                    Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

                    Feel free to start a thread...


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                    Why bother? If you guys insist on making veiled political posts, this thread or a new one won't last very long.
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            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


            Anyone that would say, "Sure, I'd work with the other side, we aren't the only people with good ideas"...would get nowhere politically. And no news organization would cover you.
            That's not really true. Our current president has said the exact same thing many times and he's done all right. It's one relatively small group of one party which have kept both parties from compromising the past few years.
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              Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

              That's not really true. Our current president has said the exact same thing many times and he's done all right. It's one relatively small group of one party which have kept both parties from compromising the past few years.


              There are extremists in both parties. The more extreme the voter, the more likely they are to vote...and the more vocal they are. The more likely to contribute. The campaigns are being led more and more to appeal to the fringe elements.

              And...I agree.....but I was being polite.


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    I didn't even read the article.

    One of my friends posted a video on FB of a policeman telling how to avoid bad experiences with police. His advice? "COMPLY!" That is in bold because he raised his voice like he was ordering me to do something.

    As soon as he raised his voice, I raised my middle finger and shut off the video. Ordering me to comply is like ordering me to eat a cockroach. Ain't going to happen unless I want to.

    What makes me want to? I don't want to get shot or tasered and I have too few years left to spend any of them in prison.

    I respect - totally - police officers that do their jobs with dignity, compassion, and respect for the people they come in contact with. Unfortunately, in my experience officers like those are in the minority.

    I know a cop's job is hard. I wouldn't want it, I wouldn't do it.

    Cops think in "us vs. them" mentality. I get it. If they didn't, they wouldn't survive long in many places.

    It's the view of the "them" category that has shifted over the years from "bad guys" to "everyone else".

    That and like Sue said in another thread (paraphrasing) many cops are "short guys with little weenies" and overblown egos who have a need to push people around. In short, little people who live for having authority.

    John Mellencamp says "authority always wins". That may be true most of the time, but it isn't because of respect.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by SteveJohnson View Post


      I respect - totally - police officers that do their jobs with dignity, compassion, and respect for the people they come in contact with. Unfortunately, in my experience officers like those are in the minority.



      That and like Sue said in another thread (paraphrasing) many cops are "short guys with little weenies" and overblown egos who have a need to push people around. In short, little people who live for having authority.
      I can honestly say that ALL the police officers Ive dealt with over the years including 6 of them who made me get on the crowd with Glocks in my face ( because they thought I was an intruder in my parent's house) they have all been very dignified and very respectable human beings.

      Even the 4 or 5 incidents where I was pulled over for suspected DUI ( in my early twenties)they were totally good people

      Of course I know there are bad cops but in my own experience I have never seen one first hand
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      • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        ...
        Even the 4 or 5 incidents where I was pulled over for suspected DUI ( in my early twenties)they were totally good people
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        You must have needed to hone your driving skills a little if you were driving bad enough to get stopped for a sobriety check
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      Originally Posted by SteveJohnson View Post

      As soon as he raised his voice, I raised my middle finger and shut off the video. Ordering me to comply is like ordering me to eat a cockroach. Ain't going to happen unless I want to.
      Same with me, and I have to say, most of the time, being polite to cops is not a burden for me. Especially here in Mayberry.

      But I'm not really the demographic or in a location where citizens normally are unduly assaulted, and cops are usually very polite to me. Probably all that gray hair and reminding them of their mother or something. lol.

      But I haven't always been this age and I have been in a demographic that was frequently harassed for no real cause when younger. While the outside wrapper is different, I am still the same person I was then, with a few adjustments in attitude and philosophy.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    Do extremists really think they're middle of the road?

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  • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
    I have to add - a lot of the animosity against police comes from animosity against the institutions themselves.

    I live at the top of a 'T' intersection, left side of the T, right side of the street. A girl delivering pizzas was coming up the T, turned left, got distracted, and hit the wheel/tire of my boat trailer that was parked in the street. Broke the spindle, the wheel rolled down the street. Knocked the right front wheel clean off her car. I was working in my office and heard the accident, went out front to see what the commotion was.

    The poor girl was in tears. She'd just bought the car the week before and got the pizza delivery job to help pay for it. She was like very early twenties, never been in an accident, didn't have the slightest idea what to do. Was worried about getting a ticket on top of everything else. I told her "ah, you won't get a ticket. No reason." Dumbass me.

    We got everything sorted out, police were called because of the amount of damage. Cop was nice enough, did all his measuring and photographing. Just before leaving, he waltzed up to the girl and I and handed her a ticked for some shit thing like 'driving while distracted'.

    I said, "WTF are you giving her a ticket for?? She hasn't been punished enough? Dickwad." Yes, I really did call him that. Fortunately I guess, he didn't react to it. Maybe was used to it.

    He just said, "Department policy is any time there is an accident, if it can be determined who is at fault, they get some kind of ticket."

    How can a normal person respect that kind of 'policy' in this kind of situation?
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by SteveJohnson View Post



      I said, "WTF are you giving her a ticket for?? She hasn't been punished enough? Dickwad." Yes, I really did call him that. Fortunately I guess, he didn't react to it. Maybe was used to it.

      He just said, "Department policy is any time there is an accident, if it can be determined who is at fault, they get some kind of ticket."

      How can a normal person respect that kind of 'policy' in this kind of situation?
      Wow, someone just doing their job and you belittle him and disrespect him with profanity ?

      Now I understand why you've had bad experiences with Cops lol
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        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        Wow, someone just doing their job and you belittle him and disrespect him with profanity ?

        Now I understand why you've had bad experiences with Cops lol
        Yeah, because there was no need to give the girl a ticket, none at all. It was just adding insult to injury. People get ticketed to influence their behavior by attaching consequences to that behavior. She already experienced the consequences. Getting a ticket was just piling on, to use football parlance.

        Had I known it was 'policy', I wouldn't have said what I did in the way that I said it. And I did apologize - "sorry for the remarks, I get that it's beyond your control but that is a stupid-ass policy."
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    I have nothing against cops myself. When a belligerent turd enters the scene, belligerent turd things are going to happen, but that's about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      John Mellencamp says "authority always wins". That may be true most of the time, but it isn't because of respect.
      Maybe "respect for authority" isn't the right term. How about "self protection"?

      Simple fact is a teen is not going to WIN against a teacher, an Asst Principal, or a cop. There is zero chance any of the three are going to say "oh, never mind - if you want to keep texting in class, just go ahead".

      Maybe all kids need to learn is common sense to know what battles are worth fighting - and to not start battles they can't possibly win.
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      • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Maybe "respect for authority" isn't the right term. How about "self protection"?

        Simple fact is a teen is not going to WIN against a teacher, an Asst Principal, or a cop. There is zero chance any of the three are going to say "oh, never mind - if you want to keep texting in class, just go ahead".

        Maybe all kids need to learn is common sense to know what battles are worth fighting - and to not start battles they can't possibly win.
        Ding, ding. BINGO.
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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Maybe all kids need to learn is common sense to know what battles are worth fighting - and to not start battles they can't possibly win.
        ^^^^^^^^
        This exactly. This is what they should be taught.
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        • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          Maybe "respect for authority" isn't the right term. How about "self protection"?

          Simple fact is a teen is not going to WIN against a teacher, an Asst Principal, or a cop. There is zero chance any of the three are going to say "oh, never mind - if you want to keep texting in class, just go ahead".

          Maybe all kids need to learn is common sense to know what battles are worth fighting - and to not start battles they can't possibly win.
          Originally Posted by SteveJohnson View Post

          Ding, ding. BINGO.
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          ^^^^^^^^
          This exactly. This is what they should be taught.
          As they say in the military, "Is that the hill you want to die on?"
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    I'm just wondering... For someone who obviously does not respect authority and continuously ignores the reasonable requests to get off her phone, and ultimately, leave the class--since she is a disruption, not to mention insolent--from her teacher, the administrator, and the school resource officer, how would you have had her removed physically from where she is seated in the room? You know that talking to her won't soften her defiant stance.
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      Originally Posted by webmarketer View Post

      I'm just wondering... For someone who obviously does not respect authority and continuously ignores the reasonable requests to get off her phone, and ultimately, leave the class--since she is a disruption, not to mention insolent--from her teacher, the administrator, and the school resource officer, how would you have had her removed physically from where she is seated in the room? You know that talking to her won't soften her defiant stance.
      Some people who lack imagination, compassion and tact, think brutally manhandling a teenage girl is an appropriate way to handle the situation. The sheriff didn't, so he fired Ben Fields.
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      • Profile picture of the author webmarketer
        I didn't ask about the sheriff or Ben Fields.

        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        Some people who lack imagination, compassion and tact, think brutally manhandling a teenage girl is an appropriate way to handle the situation. The sheriff didn't, so he fired Ben Fields.
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          Originally Posted by webmarketer View Post

          I didn't ask about the sheriff or Ben Fields.
          Try using your imagination if you have any
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          • Profile picture of the author webmarketer
            Weak. The refuge of a dead end reply.

            Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

            Try using your imagination if you have any
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      Originally Posted by webmarketer View Post

      I'm just wondering... For someone who obviously does not respect authority and continuously ignores the reasonable requests to get off her phone, and ultimately, leave the class--since she is a disruption, not to mention insolent--from her teacher, the administrator, and the school resource officer, how would you have had her removed physically from where she is seated in the room? You know that talking to her won't soften her defiant stance.
      Numerous people covered that in the original huge thread. This thread is just redundant.
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    Rational people can be quite passionate.
    As evidenced by Joseph Stalin.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      Rational people can be quite passionate.
      As evidenced by Joseph Stalin.

      If I were an evil dictator, I think I'd give myself more than two medals.
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      • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        If I were an evil dictator, I think I'd give myself more than two medals.
        Evil Dick Tater was actually Claude's porn name in some specialist fruit and veg movies he made in the eighties.

        Titles included:

        Parsnip passion

        Aubergine Orgy

        Eggplant Erotica

        Golden Leek's

        Banana Splits

        Oh there were so many, the props were cheap but they had to make the movies within 7 days of getting them.
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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

          Evil Dick Tater was actually Claude's porn name in some specialist fruit and veg movies he made in the eighties.

          Titles included:

          Parsnip passion

          Aubergine Orgy

          Eggplant Erotica

          Golden Leek's

          Banana Splits

          Oh there were so many, the props were cheap but they had to make the movies within 7 days of getting them.

          Wait!

          Aren't leaks always golden? I think so, especially when leaked in the snow!






          It's enough to make a snow man cry, I tell ya!


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          • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
            Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

            Wait!

            Aren't leaks always golden? I think so, especially when leaked in the snow!






            It's enough to make a snow man cry, I tell ya!



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            Terra, is that really you?




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              Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

              Terra, is that really you?






              No! Duh!

              If pee should ever happen to land on me, it turns neon pink. No, seriously!

              The pee stimulates my love for pink and it naturally just "leaks" out!


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                Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post



                No! Duh!

                If pee should ever happen to land on me, it turns neon pink. No, seriously!

                The pee stimulates my love for pink and it naturally just "leaks" out!


                Terra
                So, I see by your post that Pot is legal in Michigan now.
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                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                  So, I see by your post that Pot is legal in Michigan now.

                  No, hahahaha...













                  But pain meds are.


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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

          Evil Dick Tater was actually Claude's porn name in some specialist fruit and veg movies he made in the eighties.

          Titles included:

          Parsnip passion

          Aubergine Orgy

          Eggplant Erotica

          Golden Leek's

          Banana Splits

          Oh there were so many, the props were cheap but they had to make the movies within 7 days of getting them.
          It was worse than that. The veggies had to be refrigerated. Brrrrr.
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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        If I were an evil dictator, I think I'd give myself more than two medals.
        Gaddafi was much better than Stalin in giving himself medals.
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          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          Gaddafi was much better than Stalin in giving himself medals.
          But Gaddafi was only a Colonel. If I was an evil dictator, I'd make myself a General.
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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            But Gaddafi was only a Colonel. If I was an evil dictator, I'd make myself a General.
            Good point, but Gaddafi had more flare and his female body guards were a nice touch:

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            • Profile picture of the author discrat
              Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

              Good point, but Gaddafi had more flare and his female body guards were a nice touch:

              Wow, what a broken looking man.( he looks like he could have been a Ramone lol) There is almost never a happen ending for these evil dictators. Hardly Ever !!
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