Obama's health bill - question for US warriors

by coco28
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Hi,

this post is mainly directed at warriors who are American. There has been a lot of coverage in the UK media about President Obama's health care bill. From an outsider's point of view, there seems to be a very negative view of of Obama's proposals.

Lately a few well known warriors have run into trouble with medical bills, the size of which would financially cripple most people. As a UK citizen, the figures mentioned in those medical bills were eye-watering to say the least.

I appreciate that US taxes may have to rise to cover this health bill, but won't this also mean that your health insurance bills will also vanish?

Forgive me for posting this in the main forum - I have no political agenda, and I'm not trying to cultivate controversy, I am just curious for an insight into the typical American's attitude to Obama's health bill...

Thanks in advance...

Colin.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Pension Guy
    Yeah, wrong forum.
    It should be here: The Off Topic Forum
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  • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
    Originally Posted by coco28 View Post

    I am just curious for an insight into the typical American's attitude to Obama's health bill...

    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Colin, a lot of the negative feeling comes from the fact that absolutely nobody knows exactly what is in that bill. It was cobbled together quickly by people beholden to outside interests (in both parties) and runs over 1,000 pages. Even the sponsors don't know what's in it.

    That's pretty scary when you consider they have the numbers to ramrod the thing through and sort it out later.
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  • Profile picture of the author Whosyou
    Hi Coco,

    I am also from the U.K and have been watching the whole health care bill saga unfold.

    Just like you i would like to gauge the public feeling towards this bill.

    As a U.K resident i have NHS access and as a result paying for health care is very much alien to us U.K residents.

    Whatever happens with this health bill there is one thing i can guarantee: When all is said and done Joe "USA" public is going to pick up the costs and the pharma industry is going to make a Killing. (please excuse the distasteful pun!)
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by coco28 View Post

    Hi,

    this post is mainly directed at warriors who are American. There has been a lot of coverage in the UK media about President Obama's health care bill. From an outsider's point of view, there seems to be a very negative view of of Obama's proposals.

    Lately a few well known warriors have run into trouble with medical bills, the size of which would financially cripple most people. As a UK citizen, the figures mentioned in those medical bills were eye-watering to say the least.

    I appreciate that US taxes may have to rise to cover this health bill, but won't this also mean that your health insurance bills will also vanish?

    Forgive me for posting this in the main forum - I have no political agenda, and I'm not trying to cultivate controversy, I am just curious for an insight into the typical American's attitude to Obama's health bill...

    Thanks in advance...

    Colin.
    You are looking at this as if it were a REAL healthcare bill. It ISN'T! You are looking at it like the US government has a just record. It DOESN'T!

    TAXES will go UP! That is a GIVEN and SPECIFIED in the bill! Cost for insurance, at least for people like me, will go UP! That is a given, AND SPECIFIED! Some existing plans will be SHUT DOWN, SPECIFIED! NO existing plans can accept new members, SPECIFIED!

    As for the typical american? GOOD LUCK! I really have NO party affiliation, am NOT rich, and currently have healthcare. I have ALSO read key parts of the bill. I am AGAINST IT!

    Some republicans are AGAINST it because the follow the party, hear about the garbage, distrust the democrats, distrust the government, hate taxes, or have read the bill.

    Some democrats are FOR it because they love obama, love blacks, follow the party, hear only good things, believe the hype, trust the government, get paid, etc....

    I had a friend once that was among many BUSSED IN to disrupt republican gatherings and protest, though she was a MINOR! She ALSO seemed very PRO democrat. She told me how she was once bussed to the Sherman Oaks Galleria so she could help basically close down stores so the clintons could shop. This was when Bill Clinton was president. She LATER told me she did all that garbage only to help her mother stay on welfare. Let me tell you about her mother....

    She got public assistance to go to school and improve her lot.
    She used that money to move to california.
    She smoked INCESSANTLY, and did NOTHING! He car was practically worthless, and OTHER people went to the store for her.

    http://blogs.reuters.com/photo/2009/...air-force-one/

    Only once in recent history has Air Force One been delayed beyond the commander's control. That incident occurred in the 1990's when President Bill Clinton insisted on bringing a Beverly Hills stylist out to the readied aircraft before take-off while it sat on the airport's tarmac in Los Angeles. He wanted to experience a $200 "Christophe" hair treatment. Commercial aircraft waited patiently to take off during the airport's mandatory Air Force One ramp-freeze while Clinton received the cut.

    The nickname "Hair Force One" grew out of that exclusive appointment.
    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/05...are-force-one/

    Her daughters battle cry(apparently one of that group) was ironic.... "Too young to vote, not too young to care.".

    Even AIR FORCE ONE isn't safe from such garbage!
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    People really want to know what this bill really is? LOL
    Taxes - oh yeah, plenty of taxes. You might be able to use your own insurer, but
    you are going to pay through the nose to do so. We are also allowing for free
    medical care of illegals - isn't that a treat? There's a lot more surprises in there, too.
    This bill is excellent reading if you love science fiction.


    http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf
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