Woman Endures 8 Hours Of Catcalling To Prove An Important Point

8 years ago

I had to endure a driving test once to prove an important point that I could drive. Maybe I should have done it in my underwear so I could have also called it art.

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Claude Whitacre

8 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

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Woman Endures 8 Hours Of Catcalling To Prove An Important Point

She didn't endure anything. She decided to do it, wanted to do it, and could have quit at any time.

The lesson I learned? Women standing in a lighted display window without much on, get stared at.

Personally, I think it would have been much better if nobody paid attention to her. To me, that would have been funny.

You don't think a man in his underwear would have been stared at?

You could have put a giant, a dwarf, an obese person (either sex), or any naked person...or any person in a bathing suit, in a lighted display window, with anything playing in the background..and people would have stared and commented.

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lanfear63

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

She didn't endure anything. She decided to do it, wanted to do it, and could have quit at any time.

The lesson I learned? Women standing in a lighted display window without much on, get stared at.

Personally, I think it would have been much better if nobody paid attention to her. To me, that would have been funny.

You don't think a man in his underwear would have been stared at?

You could have put a giant, a dwarf, an obese person (either sex), or any naked person...or any person in a bathing suit, in a lighted display window, with anything playing in the background..and people would have stared and commented.

"You could have put a giant, a goatee dwarf, and an obese person..."

That's probably happened

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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by lanfear63

"You could have put a giant, a goatee dwarf, and an obese person..."

That's probably happened

You could have put a well built man in nice tight undies with a similar result ... only they wouldn't be calling it violence against men. lol. They'd be shaking that thang. And I'd be catcalling ... and probably some gay men too.

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Claude Whitacre

8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

You could have put a well built man in nice tight undies with a similar result ... only they wouldn't be calling it violence against men. lol. They'd be shaking that thang. And I'd be catcalling ... and probably some gay men too.

My wife and I would be standing there, and I'd say to my wife, "What's that guy got, that I haven't got?"

And she would say, "Well, I have a list..."

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Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

My wife and I would be standing there, and I'd say to my wife, "What's that guy got, that I haven't got?"

And she would say, "Well, I have a list..."

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Kay King

8 years ago

On her website, Jones wrote about the "exhausting" endurance performance

Right - have to stand on your feet for 8 hrs....like the people that WORK in the retail shops and galleries???

already so many balloons in the space I can barely move. I am practically crawling on the floor in order to continue to navigate the space. My spine and legs ache. My arms are bound. The blades graze my head, my shoulders, my arms. Suddenly the door opens and another balloon is added to the space. It drifts up. There's a pop, and a moment later a bang bang bang like gun shots.

OMG - another balloon? However can you traverse the dangers? The "blades" (those would be ones you hung yourself to look 'dangerous') are going to attack you! A popped balloon? That qualifies for PTSD right there you poor thing.

"I [had] to make decisions about what spaces in the gallery are still safe for me to move in without coming too close to violence to escape it."

And, according to her blog, just walking to the gallery for her 'performance' was a minefield with men on every corner trying to accost and take advantage of her. Is that a hopeful imagination or did Miss Thunderthighs walk through town dressed for the upcoming performance?

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Right - have to stand on your feet for 8 hrs....like the people that WORK in the retail shops and galleries???

And, according to her blog, just walking to the gallery for her 'performance' was a minefield with men on every corner trying to accost and take advantage of her. Is that a hopeful imagination or did Miss Thunderthighs walk through town dressed for the upcoming performance?

LOL that was my absolute first impression. 8 hours on her feet was an exhausting performance? Well now we know why she's an artist instead of actually working for a living.

And her entire shtick is just one great big political stunt. There was a skit once about a car full of people with neck braces being a car full of plaintiffs trying to find some sucker of a defendant. She is like the conversational equivalent. I can't imagine even making it through a complete conversation with her without rolling my eyes and walking off mid-sentence, because I'd probably reach for the milk (for my coffee) and she'd decide I'm sexually assaulting a cow by proxy or some nutty ish.

And strewn with razor blades like "people do every day"? Um, non herion addict wanna-artists don't wallow in razor blades every day, cookie. How about you get your life together before you blame the world for traumatizing you by, what? Noticing you actually exist? Not noticing you actually exist? Either way it's clearly all about her. Her entire political agenda is nothing more than a shallow ego gratifying self validating pathetic cry for attention.

She is an utter and complete tool, a cheap piece of work, an artist? Yeah, so long as her trust fund holds out.

smh.

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

She didn't endure anything. She decided to do it, wanted to do it, and could have quit at any time.

The lesson I learned? Women standing in a lighted display window without much on, get stared at.

Personally, I think it would have been much better if nobody paid attention to her. To me, that would have been funny.

You don't think a man in his underwear would have been stared at?

You could have put a giant, a dwarf, an obese person (either sex), or any naked person...or any person in a bathing suit, in a lighted display window, with anything playing in the background..and people would have stared and commented.

You missed the point of this all. This has NOTHING to do with a person complaining about enduring this or that.
And this has NOTHING to do with whether or not it was her choice or not to do.

This is moot.. And you are looking at the superficial part of it, Dig deeper

The fact of the matter is she was doing an experiment to garnish 'general' awareness for a particular problem that has become an accepted form of harassment for many years towards women in our Society.

She's expressing what many feel in this very EXAGGERATED form of Performance Art/Social Experiment.

With the end result being more and more people becoming perceptive and more educated that this has been an ongoing problem for some women for a very long time

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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

can be an act of violence against women, making them feel unsafe and exposed in public spaces

Duh ... she was exposed, by her own doing, in a public place. She proved nothing except that she's an idiot.

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butters

8 years ago

Pssh, women in Amsterdam stand in a window for a lot longer!!

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Mike Anthony 8 years ago

Originally Posted by butters

Pssh, women in Amsterdam stand in a window for a lot longer!!

The plural in that statement of experience indicates someone we know went to Amsterdam - and without enough money.
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If Claude was in that storefront window people on the sidewalk would be calling 911.

911: 911 what's your emergency?
Caller: Yeh, I'm over here at the pet store & there's a Claude stuck in the window.
911: That will happen sometimes... [dial tone].

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whateverpedia

8 years ago

So, now every exhibitionist *male and female) is going to put themselves on display to get their jollies by being ogled at.

Not my idea of art.

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bizgrower

8 years ago

I can't believe how insensitive the responses are. I think we should send her some cookies and chocolate milk. And give her a retreat room of her very own.

Sounds like she went to one of those colleges where they protest offensive words/ideas.

I think she needs lessons on becoming a woman from this real woman:
Sex Attacker Left Beaten To A Pulp After Woman Fights Back

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yukon

Banned 8 years ago

Here's the same women when her 8 hour shift was over...

FRIENDS - S09E20 - The play - YouTube

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

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Woman Endures 8 Hours Of Catcalling To Prove An Important Point

***********BULL************! HERE is a quote from the article YOU linked to:

For eight hours on a Saturday in November, performance artist Mirabelle Jones subjected herself to an ongoing loop of catcalling and street harassment in a piece called "To Skin a Catcaller." In a gallery window facing a busy L.A. sidewalk, Jones paced back and forth in just her underwear, to an ongoing loop of her voice reciting 200 real catcalls drawn from an online survey.

So SHE wanted to get some PUBLICITY and and wanted to DISPLAY in as little clothing as possible. In fact, she really looks NUDE! Did she do this to CATCALLS? *****NOPE*****! She did it to a TAPE RECORDING of HER VOICE reading SUPPOSED CATCALLS from an ON LINE SURVEY! WHAT did the survey even cover? Maybe it was merely a request of what people THOUGHT catcalls would be.

BTW I have been in a number of areas INCLUDING areas with men and attractive women around, and I don't recall ANY catcalls given. I have also NEVER given a cat call. So men do NOT automatically do this.

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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

BTW I have been in a number of areas INCLUDING areas with men and attractive women around, and I don't recall ANY catcalls given. I have also NEVER given a cat call. So men do NOT automatically do this.

Steve

That really isn't the point. I lived in one place where there was a 7-11 open all night and I worked some nights and would stop there for something before coming home. There was always a bunch of drunks and bottom of the barrel characters hanging around there and they would catcall every time any woman walked into the store. It was beyond creepy and it felt scary, given the rural location and the darkness. I always breathed a sigh of relief when I was back in my car locked in. That wasn't the only occasion that I encountered uncomfortable catcalling that made me frightened. It freaking happens all of the time .... and just because you don't catcall, doesn't mean that it isn't prevalent. It is.

This stupid bi%ch didn't encounter any such thing. For one, when I went to the 7-11 at night, I was fully clothed and just wanted a pack of cigarettes or a snack or a newspaper. She voluntarily pranced around in her undies, hoping to elicit a response. She could have left any time she wanted to. She's your typical media whore, professional victim that doesn't get enough attention, so creates a situation where she claims victimhood and revels in it. She makes a mockery of real victims of violence, although I don't even go so far as to call catcalling violence. It is very uncomfortable and it is frightening at times. During daylight hours in less secluded areas, it might even be amusing, but is less frightening, so no, I don't label it violence, and no, I never considered myself a victim because a bunch of derelicts catcall.

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Kay King

8 years ago

I have a different view of catcalls. From drunks they are totally creepy - but when I worked in Atlanta it was common to get catcalls and whistles from the construction sites, etc. They were not lewd and crude, though, and if you gave them a wave as you walked by they would cheer and clap. Good old days when you didn't feel the need to be outraged all the time....

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Originally Posted by Kay King

I have a different view of catcalls. From drunks they are totally creepy - but when I worked in Atlanta it was common to get catcalls and whistles from the construction sites, etc. They were not lewd and crude, though, and if you gave them a wave as you walked by they would cheer and clap. Good old days when you didn't feel the need to be outraged all the time....

I'm from the same good old days and have smiled and waved at my share of benign catcallers, mostly at construction sites too. Of course I wasn't prancing around in my undies, so the situation didn't feel very threatening. I wonder what makes these professional crybabies tick ... it never occurred to me that I was missing out on anything by not being a victim, and yet they bend over backwards to fabricate their victimization.

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Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Of course I wasn't prancing around in my undies,

Totally not buying that.

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bizgrower

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

I have a different view of catcalls. From drunks they are totally creepy - but when I worked in Atlanta it was common to get catcalls and whistles from the construction sites, etc. They were not lewd and crude, though, and if you gave them a wave as you walked by they would cheer and clap. Good old days when you didn't feel the need to be outraged all the time....

Expected behavior, I guess. My brother was in construction, so Dad was
okay with him cussing all the time but would have a cow if I cussed. LOL

At my hotel, we used to have this group of tow truck drivers stay at a low rate.
It was a "community service" thing that started before I began working here.
They would get accidents and break downs off the highways quickly during
peak tourist periods. It was free to motorists because the State paid the tow company.

I got rid of them because one season I caught the so called leader of the group ogling
one of my customers way too grossly. Fortunately she was walking away and did not
see him, but I had to wonder what they did outside of my eyesight and I want my
customers to feel safe and comfortable. A bit of steady income ain't worth breaking
a reputation.

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Claude Whitacre

8 years ago

Ogling and at calling can be aggravating. I can see that.

But what's more dangerous is a quiet guy, just staring.

The guys making lewd comments? That's their release. Like people yelling at each other. In the vast majority of cases, that's as far as it gets.

The cat callers are trying to impress each other, more than the lady. At least, that's my observation.

The very quiet guy, standing alone, staring at you...... that's the guy I would avoid.

Lions don't roar before they attack.

There are always exceptions, of course. Crazies come in all varieties.

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Ogling and at calling can be aggravating. I can see that.

But what's more dangerous is a quiet guy, just staring.

The guys making lewd comments? That's their release. Like people yelling at each other. In the vast majority of cases, that's as far as it gets.

The cat callers are trying to impress each other, more than the lady. At least, that's my observation.

The very quiet guy, standing alone, staring at you...... that's the guy I would avoid.

Lions don't roar before they attack.

There are always exceptions, of course. Crazies come in all varieties.

"That very quiet Kurt guy, standing alone, staring at you...... that's the guy I would avoid.

Kurt doesn't insult before he attacks."

Be afraid, be very afraid.

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discrat

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Ogling and at calling can be aggravating. I can see that.

But what's more dangerous is a quiet guy, just staring.

The guys making lewd comments? That's their release. Like people yelling at each other. In the vast majority of cases, that's as far as it gets.

The cat callers are trying to impress each other, more than the lady. At least, that's my observation.

The very quiet guy, standing alone, staring at you...... that's the guy I would avoid.

Lions don't roar before they attack.

There are always exceptions, of course. Crazies come in all varieties.

Sorry Iam not trying to beat up on you but sometimes things you say really puzzle me. In all due respect, a 62 year old man tying to relate to something he CANNOT possibly relate to is just plain offensive to many people , to be quite frank !

I have no idea what it is like to be a woman. Especially an attractive women who has to put up with a-hole jerks on the street harassing them.

And yes it is indeed harassment. Make no mistake about it.

But of course since that is the extent of it according to you it seems to be no harm done .

Wow, imagine if all facets in our Society worked based on that premise. .safe to say we would have chaos !!

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Claude Whitacre

8 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Sorry Iam not trying to beat up on you but sometimes things you say really puzzle me. In all due respect, a 62 year old man tying to relate to something he CANNOT possibly relate to is just plain offensive to many people , to be quite frank !

Robert;

I never think you are trying to beat up on me.
I'm 60.

You are right, I cannot relate to anything women do, or put up with. I also cannot relate to being offended.

But Robert, read my posts again. I know I have no insight into women's plights. I wasn't commenting on that. I was commenting on the title of the thread. "Endures"? I was commenting on her stunt, and how it could be done by just about anyone, and get similar results.

I'm aware that it has nothing to do with the woman's intentions. I'm oblivious to her intentions.

The woman didn't endure anything doing her stunt. Everything was there, because she set it up the way she wanted to. Everything in the stunt was her choice.

Now, outside of that display, she very well my have been subjected to harassment. But that's not what I was talking about.

And my comments about cat calling, were about the guys doing it, not the women that had to put up with it.

One more thing, you cannot offend me. The other side of that, is that I don't try to offend others, but when they take offence (like you did), it doesn't bother me at all.

I don't understand how people can be offended, about anything.

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a 62 year old man tying to relate to something he CANNOT possibly relate to is just plain offensive to many people

And........ I can't relate to the woman. But then, I can't relate to just about everybody. But we all comment on things we don't completely understand. All of us.

You are commenting about my posts, but you can't think like I do, or understand my motives behind what I say...and yet, I'm not offended at all. See? We all do it.

I would never try to relate to another person. You are reading more meaning into my posts, than I intended. But I know something about human behavior, and I posted, based on that.

And I still like you, even though I feel deeply wounded by your post.

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

That really isn't the point. I lived in one place where there was a 7-11 open all night and I worked some nights and would stop there for something before coming home. There was always a bunch of drunks and bottom of the barrel characters hanging around there and they would catcall every time any woman walked into the store. It was beyond creepy and it felt scary, given the rural location and the darkness. I always breathed a sigh of relief when I was back in my car locked in. That wasn't the only occasion that I encountered uncomfortable catcalling that made me frightened. It freaking happens all of the time .... and just because you don't catcall, doesn't mean that it isn't prevalent. It is.

This stupid bi%ch didn't encounter any such thing. For one, when I went to the 7-11 at night, I was fully clothed and just wanted a pack of cigarettes or a snack or a newspaper. She voluntarily pranced around in her undies, hoping to elicit a response. She could have left any time she wanted to. She's your typical media whore, professional victim that doesn't get enough attention, so creates a situation where she claims victimhood and revels in it. She makes a mockery of real victims of violence, although I don't even go so far as to call catcalling violence. It is very uncomfortable and it is frightening at times. During daylight hours in less secluded areas, it might even be amusing, but is less frightening, so no, I don't label it violence, and no, I never considered myself a victim because a bunch of derelicts catcall.

I don't believe I have ****EVER**** seen it! I'm sure SOME DO DO it, but they must be a small subsection in a small part. BTW I have only seen ONE intentional fire/riot, that happened with that rodney king thing happened. I have had my home burgeled only ONCE, by ONE ethnic couple. HECK, one guy on youtube spoke of how he was CONSTANTLY in fear of robberies, etc... He moved to a place HE thought would be SO foreign, and two "STRANGERS" came up to his home, did a very threatening thing(Well, he THOUGHT it was threatening!), and said they would make sure all was safe, etc... He found out the whole town was 180 degrees from where he was brought up, and he NEVER had a problem.

ANYWAY, people speak of racism, etc... If I watch the news, listen to "#44", listen to 1/2 the politicians, etc.... I see some people elevated for NO reason, and see people attacking my sex, race, country, etc..... So I think all know why I feel as I do there.

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Originally Posted by seasoned

I don't believe I have ****EVER**** seen it!

blah blah blah blah

Steve

The world according to Steve. If he hasn't seen it, it doesn't exist. I don't imagine that you have ever been cat called ... that's for certain. Other than that, you are obviously both oblivious to what goes on in society and delusional. But we all knew that anyway.

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

The world according to Steve. If he hasn't seen it, it doesn't exist. I don't imagine that you have ever been cat called ... that's for certain. Other than that, you are obviously both oblivious to what goes on in society and delusional. But we all knew that anyway.

I admit, I have never seen a catcaller in person. But I have seen them on reality TV, and I have seen them on the News and on Youtube. As well as personal friends and gfs have told me it happened to them in past.

Real people, real incidences.

Pretty disgusting and scary.

Its just an extraordinarily lack of respect towards another human being who is a stranger. It defies my imagination how someone can do that to someone they do not know. Dehumanizing that person in a way.

Just a few steps below a narcissistic sociopath, imo
That's someone's Mother, daughter, sister, friend etc..etc..

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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Yes, I have never seen a catcaller in person. But I have seen them on reality TV, and I have seen it on the News and on Youtube.

Real people, real incidences. Pretty disgusting and scary.

Its just an extraordinarily lack of respect towards another human being. Dehumanizing that person in a way

See posts 19 and 20. It isn't always disgusting and it isn't always scary. In fact, most of the catcalling I've encountered, wasn't in the last bit disgusting or scary and a couple of the guys were pretty cute and if they hadn't been on a construction site and me on my way somewhere, we might have struck up a conversation.

I find that woman far more offensive than most benign catcalling. I don't like professional victims speaking on behalf of all women. I particularly find it disgusting that she wore nothing but underwear to pull off her stunt. What's the problem? She couldn't get a response standing in the window in normal, every day clothes and most of us have done when catcalling occurred?

The only time catcalling has bothered me in any way was at night at a grocery store I stopped at on my way home in the country ... dark and rural and the men in this case, were drunks and deviates ... real bottom of the barrel stuff and they frightened me.

Other than that, I have always taken it in my stride and went on my way. The catcalling (other than at the store) was not lewd (that I could hear), and was pretty harmless. Suffice it to say, it did not leave me scarred for life, wallowing in self pity over being a victim of catcalling.

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Other than that, I have always taken it in my stride and went on my way. The catcalling (other than at the store) was not lewd (that I could hear), and was pretty harmless. Suffice it to say, it did not leave me scarred for life, wallowing in self pity over being a victim of catcalling.

Same song and dance that runs rampant in these parts
i.e. What happens to Suzy and what Suzy can take and accept should be the same and accepted
by all women , dammit

Because all of us are the same and all of us have the same personality, brain, mind, experiences, frailties, obstacles etc..etc.. right ?? lol

The mantra 'what applies to me should apply to everyone else' has been the downfall of many.

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Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Same song and dance that runs rampant in these parts
i.e. What happens to Suzy and what Suzy can take and accept should be the same and accepted
by all women , dammit

Because all of us are the same and all of us have the same personality, brain, mind, experiences, frailties, obstacles etc..etc.. right ?? lol

The mantra 'what applies to me should apply to everyone else' has been the downfall of many.

Not at all and I don't think I ever said that, but that half naked whiner in the store window does not speak or act on my behalf. I'm embarrassed that she is the same gender and she's one of the reasons I have so little in common with most feminists.

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Same song and dance that runs rampant in these parts
i.e. What happens to Suzy and what Suzy can take and accept should be the same and accepted
by all women , dammit

Because all of us are the same and all of us have the same personality, brain, mind, experiences, frailties, obstacles etc..etc.. right ?? lol

The mantra 'what applies to me should apply to everyone else' has been the downfall of many.

Says the same jack*** who is here to tell us exactly how we all should feel about it, make no mistake about it.

Originally Posted by discrat

And yes it is indeed harassment. Make no mistake about it.

I don't find it telling that you have a different opinion about something than other people do. I do however find it quite telling that you feel somehow qualified to tell other people how they should feel about it. At which point I write your opinion off as basically irrelevant.

It's the same exact reason I wrote off the supposed artist. Not because she has an opinion, but rather because she feels her opinion is somehow more valid than everyone else's and should somehow be used as the basis for everyone else's behavior.

Sorry, cookie, that's not how the real world works. Make no mistake about it.

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

I admit, I have never seen a catcaller in person. But I have seen them on reality TV, and I have seen them on the News and on Youtube.

Real people, real incidences.

Pretty disgusting and scary.

Its just an extraordinarily lack of respect towards another human being who is a stranger. It defies my imagination how someone can do that to someone they do not know. Dehumanizing that person in a way.

Just a few steps below a narcissistic sociopath, imo

SOME of what we are talking about here WAS considered no big deal in the UK. I have no idea if it would be now and discouraged/forbidden due to political correctness, equality awareness etc.

Would a man whooped at by a bunch of woman ever complain. I think not. In my teens and early 20's it happened to me once or twice and made me grin ear to ear.

A bunch of workmen on a building site wolf whistling and making a few mildly suggestive comments towards a pretty girl, no one thought anything of it. It would often make the girl smile and perhaps think, well I'm obviously looking hot today. If the comments had been plain lewd or there would have been any attempt to confront the girl, stop her progress along the street or touch her then that's NOT ok.

Perhaps British women are different in their attitude than American ones. I heard a UK girl reply to some attention from a workman once. She said: "You smooth talking F$#^^r"

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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by lanfear63

Perhaps British women are different in their attitude than American ones. I heard a UK girl reply to some attention from a workmen once. She said: "You smooth talking F$#^^r"

Not all American women are like that woman ... probably most aren't. When I was in my teens and with another girl and that happened, we'd most likely take the same way back if the guys were cute enough so they'd do it again. And we'd look at each other and giggle and enjoyed the entire *horrible* ordeal.

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seasoned

8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

The world according to Steve. If he hasn't seen it, it doesn't exist. I don't imagine that you have ever been cat called ... that's for certain. Other than that, you are obviously both oblivious to what goes on in society and delusional. But we all knew that anyway.

For the record, I said they DO exist! I simply don't believe I have EVER seen it. This world is some weird bizaro world. It is like a weird dystopian world like the one on an outerlimits episode where a city ended up on another planet. But people make them out to be a common male trait, or all through the US, and that ISN'T the case!

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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

For the record, I said they DO exist! I simply don't believe I have EVER seen it. This world is some weird bizaro world. It is like a weird dystopian world like the one on an outerlimits episode where a city ended up on another planet. But people make them out to be a common male trait, or all through the US, and that ISN'T the case!

Steve

If you read Claude's post, you might get some insight on the phenomena. It occurs when men are in groups, often occurs when a woman passes a construction site or any site where a bunch of men are working, except for in an office setting where men are working. It might happen there, but it would be a great deal more subtle and they risk repercussions from their bosses for sexual harassment.

The men in construction sites and other blue collar settings are most likely acting that way in the group they're in to impress other men. I seriously doubt that they think it will result in an actual date with a woman.

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seasoned

8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

If you read Claude's post, you might get some insight on the phenomena. It occurs when men are in groups, often occurs when a woman passes a construction site or any site where a bunch of men are working, except for in an office setting where men are working. It might happen there, but it would be a great deal more subtle and they risk repercussions from their bosses for sexual harassment.

The men in construction sites and other blue collar settings are most likely acting that way in the group they're in to impress other men. I seriously doubt that they think it will result in an actual date with a woman.

NOPE!

It occurs when *****SOME**** men are in groups, OR ON SITE, often ONLY occurs when a woman passes a construction site or any site where a bunch of A CERTAIN GROUP of men are working, except for in an office setting where men are working. It might happen there, but it would be a great deal more subtle and they risk repercussions from their bosses for sexual harassment.

IHAVE been on a number of construction sites, and passed several. HECK, I was atmy fathers for protacted periods when he had like a half dozen men working. NOT ONE acted disrespectful to ANYONE. In fact, I was shocked how nice they were. But yeah, some can be bad. But you keep talking like all are that way, and they AREN'T!

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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

IHAVE been on a number of construction sites, and passed several. HECK, I was atmy fathers for protacted periods when he had like a half dozen men working. NOT ONE acted disrespectful to ANYONE. In fact, I was shocked how nice they were. But yeah, some can be bad. But you keep talking like all are that way, and they AREN'T!

Steve

Well Stevey ... I'm sure you know a great deal more about catcalling than I do. I'm sure you've encountered and studied the event thoroughly, so who am I to tell you what I've experienced and how I feel about it. After all, it's only happened to me about 500,025 times in my life.

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Kay King 8 years ago

What happens to Suzy and what Suzy can take and accept should be the same and accepted by all women

Not really - but the "rest" of us reserve the right - as women - to make fun of women who insist on creating their own victimhood. I reserve the right to laugh at someone acting like a twit - and others who want to award sympathy points can feel her pretend pain.

I was excited today to learn women are now able to do ALL the jobs in the military....THAT, to me, empowers women. Real progress - where women who qualify (and who have been on the front lines for some time) can FINALLY get the credit (and points) for doing all the jobs.

Those are women I respect.
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8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Well Stevey ... I'm sure you know a great deal more about catcalling than I do. I'm sure you've encountered and studied the event thoroughly, so who am I to tell you what I've experienced and how I feel about it. After all, it's only happened to me about 500,025 times in my life.

It happened to you a HALF MILLION times? WHERE?

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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

It happened to you a HALF MILLION times? WHERE?

Steve

Why ... all over the US Stevey. I hang out at construction sites in my undies. I'm an attention whore. lol.

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Kay King

8 years ago

Steve - she's probably not exaggerating at all.

To understand, you'd need to pose as a decent looking woman with great legs in a short skirt...are you game?

usually easy to tell the difference

Of course it is - and that's a reason I hate this PC art crap. All men and women aren't the same - all comments, catcalls, whistles aren't aggressive or threatening or demeaning.

It that lady wants to be ignored I think she could accomplish it by putting on some clothes.

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Steve - she's probably not exaggerating at all.

To understand, you'd need to pose as a decent looking woman with great legs in a short skirt...are you game?

I will pay money to see that. Well, mebbe ( PB inspired) not money. But you know what I'm getting at.

Steve, you got some long legs according to your Past Posts.

You definitely have potential. Take a photo when you do it. Or better yet do Youtube video

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seasoned

8 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

I will pay money to see that. Well, mebbe ( PB inspired) not money. But you know what I'm getting at.

Steve, you got some long legs according to your Past Posts.

You definitely have potential. Take a photo when you do it. Or better yet do Youtube video

Well, I noticed in school that about 90% of the school fit nicely in one of three groups. One was short, one was tall, and the 3rd group, that might have been over 50% fit in my group, in the middle. I am on the high end of "average", but, in my group, my legs are probably about average. 31"(About 79cm), if you want an actual measurement.

Anyway, I don't think I could pull off being in drag and won't bother to try. SOOO, keep your whatever.

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sbucciarel Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

It that lady wants to be ignored I think she could accomplish it by putting on some clothes.

... and this is just a guess but I saw what she looks like and I'll bet you that stripping to undies was the only way she could elicit that type of attention.
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8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Steve - she's probably not exaggerating at all.

To understand, you'd need to pose as a decent looking woman with great legs in a short skirt...are you game?

Of course it is - and that's a reason I hate this PC art crap. All men and women aren't the same - all comments, catcalls, whistles aren't aggressive or threatening or demeaning.

It that lady wants to be ignored I think she could accomplish it by putting on some clothes.

And we keep overlooking the obvious! If she wants the catcalls to STOP, she can just turn off her tape player!

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whateverpedia

8 years ago

Actually I can empathise with this. i too know what it's like to have someone whistling and calling out lewd suggestions.

I was so upset I vowed to never walk past the Sweeper Store in Wooster again.

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lanfear63

8 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

Actually I can empathise with this. i too know what it's like to have someone whistling and calling out lewd suggestions.

I was so upset I vowed to never walk past the Sweeper Store in Wooster again.

Trust you to pick the day of Kurt's one and only visit.

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Claude Whitacre

8 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

Actually I can empathise with this. i too know what it's like to have someone whistling and calling out lewd suggestions.

I was so upset I vowed to never walk past the Sweeper Store in Wooster again.

Originally Posted by lanfear63

Trust you to pick the day of Kurt's one and only visit.

OK, Buster!

Does that mean that Kurt was the one Cat Calling?

Or does it mean that I was Cat Calling Kurt, and Whateverpedia just got in the way?

Or...does it mean that both Kurt and I were Cat Calling when Whateverpedia walked past?

Or.........does it mean that I was practicing my Cat Calling, all alone....and Kurt and Whateverpedia (obviously holding hands) just happened to walk by my store at the wrong time?

Or........Are you and Whateverpedia just trying to spread lies about my very best friend in the whole wide world, (Whom I have never met or even talked to)...Kurt?

Claude Whitacre
President, Kurt Defense Initiative
Wooster Chapter.
A division of The Psychic League Of Super Heroes.

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lanfear63

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

OK, Buster!

Does that mean that Kurt was the one Cat Calling?

Or does it mean that I was Cat Calling Kurt, and Whateverpedia just got in the way?

Or...does it mean that both Kurt and I were Cat Calling when Whateverpedia walked past?

Or.........does it mean that I was practicing my Cat Calling, all alone....and Kurt and Whateverpedia (obviously holding hands) just happened to walk by my store at the wrong time?

Or........Are you and Whateverpedia just trying to spread lies about my very best friend in the whole wide world, (Whom I have never met or even talked to)...Kurt?

Claude Whitacre
President, Kurt Defense Initiative
Wooster Chapter.
A division of The Psychic League Of Super Heroes.

Extract from your book: "One Claude Calling" ?

Or was it: One Claude Closing

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bizgrower

8 years ago

I think it's usually easy to tell the difference between friendly, flirtatious catcalls, rude and crude catcalls, and catcalls/stares from potentially dangerous or at least creepy people.

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HeySal

8 years ago

Ey yi yi yi yi.

Another sign of just how completely idiotic people are becoming in this society today.

If she wants to see harassment - let her go volunteer at a rape crisis center some time.

I was considered hot when I was young - and dressed to kill. Did I get cat called? Yes. Did I confuse someone politely saying "hi" with being intimidated or abused? NO.

In the real world - where this woman chose not to conduct her sham of an experiment, sometimes being approached is not hararssment. It's real easy to handle. If someone says something you don't like - you ignore them rather than whine about it. If someone says something that is just "conversation" you figure that they might find you attractive or interesting and want to converse with you. You respond with what used to be known as light conversational mode. If someone touches you in a way that makes you uncomfortable you tell them to take their hands off - and if they don't, you put them on their face and tell them that "hands off" is not a request. DUH. drool.

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