Inventive brain storming sessions

The alleyways of NYC were full of folks with the same idea back in the 60's and '70s.

Brainstorming happens best, in my experience, stone cold sober. As long as you are able to turn of the inner critic that wants to say every idea is a bad one or that points out all the ways it "could" go wrong.

I know musicians who swear by it and are good. So maybe it has something to it, I don't know. All I know is it made me want to party and do nothing else. But that was a long time ago.

I believe the "unbelievable creativity" you are referencing would only seem that way to someone with diminished cognitive capacity (artificial or otherwise).

The Beatles were already bursting with talent before they went under the influence. Even semi-comatose, they were probably more creative than 99.9% of us.

I would focus on finding non-narcotic ways of expanding your mental and emotional horizons.

As a product of the 80's myself, despite speculation that I missed the 'good daze' as my Mom and family often reference... (the 60's)

I can honestly say that while I am sober today, many of my adolescent mind-expansive explorations still 'resonate' new ideas today...

While I plea the 5th as to my admission to having frequently taken hallucinogenics as a means to self-medicate in my youth... Yes, I for one do think; certain drugs like LSD, mescaline, and shrooms did 'open doors' that would likely remained closed without having experienced and explored some interesting 'abstract thinking' in those daze.

Not sure I trust today's drugs, or maybe... I don't trust myself, lmfao... But, I'm still translating the 'transcendence' and (forever with me) enhanced 'peripheral' visions of my prior lifestyle choices.

In short, I find near equal to... Or greater than the experiences of old can be accessed without artificial ingredients through meditational practices.

In essence, I remain naturally high - "Comfortably Numb" - and in tune to "The Sound of Silence".

Damn... Now, I gotta go listen to Black Sabbath's - "Fairies Wear Boots"...

"Went to the doctor to see what he could give me... He said; son, son you've gone too far... Cause smoking and trippin' is all that you do... YEAH...."

Flashbacks... Whoa

Seriously though, I do not recommend anyone chart yhe course I found at 12 years old... My first real job washing dishes at 12 years old was supposed to start on a Saturday evening... Having taken two 'musical notes' and smoked on a Friday afternoon... I spent the next 8 hours staring at dirty dishes, questioning; "Why do some eat all their salad, and not their spaghetti?" - "While others woof down the spaghetti, and not their salad?"

Best friggin $3.35 per hour I ever made. Luckily, a good friend saw my eyes, and stuck me in the far corner of the kitchen...where I remained totally amused for the entire shift.

True story!

One I rarely share...but at 42, why not - I was a very happy 12 year old!!!

Peace, Pot, and Micro-dot!

Thanks fin... for reminding me where I've been!

- Partyin' Arty

Art - the new research coming out does say it keeps things 'open' so you're quite lucky you 'might' have dabbled in the past.

Thanks,

I do enjoy meditation, but it's a different kind of fun if you know what I mean.

Well that just tells me you should be high all the time so your ideas will always be great.

When I was in college, my study groups used a method of "superlearning" that came directly from the wisdom of Timothy Leary. A week before a major test, we would all drop a hit of some good acid, then party until the peak, then we'd get out our notes and memorize. You can memorize anything forever when stoned on lysergic acid diethylamide.

What happens when you are stoned is that your mind does a trick of hyper-association, which leads to the subconcious melding with the conceious mind and being able to put what you learn into categories of application that you'd never have thought of on your own. These associations, other than being a "wow, dig this" moment of thought and discussion while you are stoned, stay in your mind - they don't evaporate just because you came down and are straight afterwards, unlike thoughts which arrive when you are under the effect of other pharmaceuticals or recreational buzz inducers.

Because you are also in dual consciousness at the time of the high, many repressions can be dealt with and erradicated, as well.

These were the discoveries of Timothy Leary's that landed him in jail. You will find that all this sort of info of Leary's is no longer in public. What is there has been propagandized into mush.

Also -- do NOT ever take this as an endorsement, because that drug is NOT something to play with. If there are things wrong with you physically or mentally - you could get a very, very bad result from taking it. People should also have experienced people with them trying it out for the first few times in case something goes wrong to "talk them down".

It's not dangerous in itself, but it can induce you to kill yourself doing stupid things, and it can make you miserably ill for 12 hours if you aren't in the right health for it. We've all heard about people who were not in control of their "trip" and jumped out of windows while high. I had 2 friends use it to commit suicide, too. They were suicidal in the first place - but used the drug to give them the courage and mind frame to be able to carry it out.

So..............it's just a shame that our psychiatric community wasn't able to use it to help people, and our education system wasn't able to use it as a superlearning tool under safe, controlled conditions. They give you psychotropic drugs that can inhibit learning and induce sucidal and homicidal tendencies that you didn't already have instead.

Gotta figure also on the lyin' down quiet deal.

My usual strategy is to bash stuff together for sparks, but it is also cool to wait around & get engulfed.

As for drugs, the people who are stoopid without 'em are stoopid with 'em.

I know I keep sayin' I am stoopid, but for the purposes of this example, assume I ain't, which I guess means my options are open.

I will bear this in mind next time I forget how to spell lysergic acid diethylamide.

Do not get me started.

Really want to blow the mind try having a few joints and then wrap a lot of plastic around the body with a Walkman inside and go surfing at 2am on a full moon listening to Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon
I may ad I was 17 at the time in the 70s

I had a college Professor whose PhD thesis was about how if you study for a test
in an "altered state", you will get better results if you take the test in the same altered
state. So, if you studied while drunk, you'd get better results on the test if you were drunk.
(I assume the same type and amount of alcohol each time. I believe he had a group under the influence of alcohol and another group that had meditated. I can't recall if had other groups
and don't know if he would have been able to test with weed or LSD...

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Business wise, I've facilitated/participated in brainstorming sessions for a school district and that
brought out lots of great ideas for improvements. A lot of energy and frustrations. (School districts have a lot of long term employees and administrators.)

In fact, I may start facilitating brain storming sessions on the side because it can do a lot to improve an organization if implemented correctly.

Dan

ACID: Do not administer to kids before their Spellin' Bee.

But hey, I guess the last thing matters when ur stoned is how to spell the fkr.

Ah, so here's where the mods moved this thread, lol. Thought they deleted it.

HeySal, it's been awhile since our little dream experiment... always enjoyed reading your threads here.

While I was a bi-product of the 60's, acid was very abundant and inexpensive back in the 80's... as was black hash, good smoke, and trusting friends and associates... My how times change.

"What a long, strange trip it's been."

As mentioned shrooms are not the same as LSD. Mescaline was actually a horse tranquilizer if I remember correctly, and while you'd laugh your ass off on it... Stomach aches were not uncommon. All three had differing affects, LSD being my favorite of the 3 back then.

I also agree people with anxiety, or unstable emotions may steer clear of acid. While I've dropped at least a couple hundred times, there were a few 'bad trips' - and I can tell ya, waiting for it too end wasn't always a pleasent experience.

However, of those few bad trips, I was not in a good frame of mind before I dropped... Thus, the pilot of my flight experienced some heavy turbulance, lol.

Timothy Learly was a brilliant individual, and I too believe because of the mind expansive results of his findings there definitely was a conspiracy to erase much of the information.

Truth be told, I do believe it opened or expanded the thought process, and allowed me to both explore and retain more information. I think it worked in direct relation to the individual's ability and desire to understand life at a deeper level. Or maybe it was just me... For obvious reasons, I can only speculate from my own experiences, and the many shared visions with a few of my closest friends.

One thing I remember clear as day, was having a huge empathy for nature and the planet while tripping. It blew my mind to see "how artificial" everything "man made" looked through those lenses... It was like walking through a town in a Lionel train set or seemed "fake" as nature was pure... And we "mankind" were abusing it, or robbing from her, and the contrast between the two was vividly clear.

As I am writing this; "Tom Sawyer" by Rush just came on the radio... An albulm we'd often listen to when tripping. My best friend (brother in arms) Sean Wilkicki died 2 days after I moved to Florida at age 14 in a car accident... Between him, Bob Carlson (English fellow) and myself... We educated ourselves and connected to a higher frequency of thought, which I sincerely believe; was directly related to LSD.

As Claude mentioned, I meditate frequently... And yes, it is an amazing way to visualize and tap into the infinite supply of knowledge available to open-minded beings...

I feel fortunate to have had the privilege to experiment (frequently) with my mind, and despite some hard lessons learned, and having since overcome several addictions, I remain grateful for everything.

Lastly, and in plain English, I do not endorse drug use anymore as a personal preference, and no drug has ever made me suicidal until "THEY" put me on Prozac... That shit almost succeeded at me checking out!!!

To this day, I still use a "file system" in my mind whereby I can scan the alphabet, stop at a specific letter... and almost always retrieve a name or word that I am seeking. That was a game we started while on acid!

- Art

SalArt/or whoever else mentioned it -

I know they're not the same, but do they both not connect parts of your brain that are currently connected?

I wasn't really speaking about the specifics on the trip.

I shall try at the weekend and report on my light bulb ideas on Monday, unless I end up in jail.