Photographer spent 6 years and 720,000 attempts to capture this.

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Huge waste of time or amazing captured photo?

  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Beautiful. It's an amazing photograph
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  • Kinda hits the nail on the button regardin' alla that passion trailo from a while back.

    There's gotta be a point to stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      I ain't saying nothing, although l could have Photoshopped all of it?????

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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        20 minutes! I won't break it to him, don't want to see a grown man go screaming into the night?



        But in all honesty, the bird was ready to use, so it could have taken me 45 minutes.

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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          20 minutes! I won't break it to him, don't want to see a grown man go screaming into the night?

          But in all honesty, the bird was ready to use, so it could have taken me 45 minutes.

          Honestly, who cares? Photoshop is Photoshop and the real thing is the real thing. No comparison.
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          • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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            Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

            Honestly, who cares? Photoshop is Photoshop and the real thing is the real thing. No comparison.
            That's a great sentiment. Now - if we could only prove that it's not Photoshop. :-)

            Additionally, long live taxidermy!

            Cheers. - Frank
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            • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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              Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

              That's a great sentiment. Now - if we could only prove that it's not Photoshop. :-)

              Cheers. - Frank
              If it's Photoshop, he'd have a lot of explaining to do when he takes his customers to the hides he builds for wildlife photography.

              This is what he does for a living
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              • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                I was being facetious, but OK. So much for my Monday morning cynicism. :-(

                Take all the fun out of my life, why dontcha???

                Cheers. - Frank
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                • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                  Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                  I was being facetious, but OK. So much for my Monday morning cynicism. :-(

                  Take all the fun out of my life, why dontcha???

                  Cheers. - Frank
                  I see. I think I'll just go back to bed. lol.
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

              That's a great sentiment. Now - if we could only prove that it's not Photoshop. :-)

              Additionally, long live taxidermy!

              Cheers. - Frank
              I hate to kick out my own defence, but there are suttle differences between the real one, and the one l threw together.

              If it is fake it is extremely well done, in regards to lighting, motion blurr, etc, too much in my opinion to be fake?

              It would probably take me weeks or longer of pecking away at it over time, to get something to indistinguishable levels.

              Or at a level where the observer, or their subconscious couldn't pick it!

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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          But in all honesty, the bird was ready to use, so it could have taken me 45 minutes.
          Except that it's not only about the composition. The original photo shows a kingfisher at the point of performing a quintessentially kingfisher act - diving headfirst into a stream to catch its prey. And for that photographer, it's probably what defines the bird.

          Seagulls would never dive into the water in such a fashion, so the photoshopped pic is unnatural in more ways than one.

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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Originally Posted by positivenegative View Post

            For every action there's an opposite. Meanwhile, in a dimly lit washroom in Wooster, Ohio, Claude sheds a silent tear as he looks at his man boobs in the mirror . . .
            Yes, saw a poor soul with that issue today, one of the nasty side effects of hot weather and cheap T- shirts!

            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            Some things are worth the time - and to the photographer I expect that's one of them.

            Faking something is too often the answer online - but the real photo is an achievement.
            Yes, l have to agree that doing this is better than watching sport for 6 years, or Captain Kangeroo!

            Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

            Except that it's not only about the composition. The original photo shows a kingfisher at the point of performing a quintessentially kingfisher act - diving headfirst into a stream to catch its prey. And for that photographer, it's probably what defines the bird.

            Seagulls would never dive into the water in such a fashion, so the photoshopped pic is unnatural in more ways than one.

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            Rubbish, they do it all the time for small fish!

            At least in Au they do, they also go for chips but that is another picture.

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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              I'm not much of a photographer but have never forgotten the two photos I missed by not having a camera with me while walking in the woods with my dog.

              The first was a single leaf in the middle of the path...balanced on a protruding tree root. The leaf was upside down and curled at the edges...and filled with water from a morning rain.

              The second was a single long blade of green grass standing straight up by itself...and totally coated in clear ice.

              If wishes were horses...I'd have those two photos!
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        • Profile picture of the author mohsin qureshi
          Amazing picture, i must appriciate the effort of photographer. I also admire the 45 mintutes photoshop picture, what a work done by tagiscom, its amazing, but the comes from the photographer who serve his 6 years for that photo
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Originally Posted by mohsin qureshi View Post

            Amazing picture, i must appriciate the effort of photographer. I also admire the 45 mintutes photoshop picture, what a work done by tagiscom, its amazing, but the comes from the photographer who serve his 6 years for that photo
            Thanks, and l took me about 20 minutes, (l plucked the bird from my library). It would have taken me 45 if the birds edges wearnt cleaned away, (strip the background off).

            When you enlarge something enough it is just pixels or large squares, but put them together the right way, and a masterpiece can happen.

            But fooling someone, can be tough!

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  • Profile picture of the author alistair
    It's just a photo of a bird to me. But I can understand the persons passion and determination to achieve what they were aiming for so hats off to them.
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  • Raises an interestin' point though, about the power of the visual image.

    We all know Photoshoppin' goes on, an' Taggo has produced sumthin' real quick here.

    More time, more tech, bigger message, an' we could see more powerful an' subtle stuff masqueradin' as reality.

    Not just in alla the ads an' movies we got, but in a more deliberate an' sneaky way.

    Such is the lure of visuals.

    Thing is, the images gotta be bang on it, an' I figure as we all become tech-savvier, we gonna know how the tricks are pulled, an' fine-tune our eyes to the deception.

    But, yeah, deal with the hummingbird in the original photo is how skillfully it balances on the water.

    Those little beauties must weigh next to frickin' nuthin'.
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    • Profile picture of the author positivenegative
      Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

      Those little beauties must weigh next to frickin' nuthin'.
      For every action there's an opposite. Meanwhile, in a dimly lit washroom in Wooster, Ohio, Claude sheds a silent tear as he looks at his man boobs in the mirror . . .
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Some things are worth the time - and to the photographer I expect that's one of them.

        Faking something is too often the answer online - but the real photo is an achievement.
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        • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
          Originally Posted by Tomas Lodén View Post

          Huge waste of time or amazing captured photo?
          As Kay points out...


          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          Some things are worth the time - and to the photographer I expect that's one of them.
          It depends on who you're asking.


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  • Profile picture of the author Doran Peck
    waste of time....shoot in Hi Def video then extract the desired frames.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Doran Peck View Post

      waste of time....shoot in Hi Def video then extract the desired frames.
      Apparently, it's not a waste of time for him. It's his business. It's also his passion, which is nice to turn your passion into something that sustains you financially.

      Another shot, so as you can see, it might have taken a lot of shots to get the one shot he wanted, but the others weren't a waste of film.

      He takes small groups of people to his wildlife hides, nature photographers, for a fee.



      This is from a new hide that I have just finished building which is situated very close to the old hide. This one offers far better light and even better backgrounds. A huge plus is that this hide rarely gets affected by the tides and will only interrupt your day when very high tides that occur a few times a year. When booking I always check tide times to make sure the day will not be affected by the water levels and I will make you aware if there was to be any interruption to your day.

      This new hide is also a lot more spacious inside and can easily hold 4 people. There is also ample space to store bags etc behind you. The very short walk is still muddy so wellington boots are advised and please wrap up well in the colder months as it can get a bit chilly inside.

      For this hide you are needing no more than a 200mm focal length on a full frame camera. It is also worthwhile bringing along a remote trigger of some description as this will more than likely be required if you are sharing. A bean bag is also required here if more than one person is using the hide.

      I feel this diving pool is better designed than the few others that are available in the UK. With the others your camera is outside the hide all day, but I have chose to design it so you can shoot from the hide which means you have the chance to view images and change any camera settings required throughout the day. A huge plus in my book especially on days with changing light levels. The backdrop at this pool is a good 50 yards away which again is something not offered by the others.

      I have made things as simple as possible so no matter what level of photography you are at this hide will give you great images. It really is as straightforward as could be so do not be intimidated if you are a novice. At the start of your day you will be shown how to set up etc.

      As room is limited at the pool the cost of this hide is £100 per person per full day, but if there happens to be 3 people doing the pool then I will drop the price down to £80 per day. Discounts will be given for groups or if two or more consecutive days are booked.
      Here's another one I like from his Day Tawny Owl Hide

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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Photoshop does not capture the photographers experience of nature.

    The Japanese used the aerodynamics of the Kingfisher to help design
    their high speed trains. I think to help pierce the sound barrier - at least
    move better.

    It would be really cool if he did the photos in analog. (If the number of
    pixels is still far greater then digital.) I don't know how far digital has come,
    but I used to visit a Thomas Mangelsen gallery often because my dog
    dragged me in for the treats. Mangelsen was/is? a diehard film user and you could
    see detail not possible with digital then.

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    Who counted to 720,000?
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

      Photoshop does not capture the photographers experience of nature.
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      Who counted to 720,000?
      Not to mention, that without a photograph, unless you are an original artist, there's nothing to manipulate. Somebody took that photo of the seagull to start with.
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      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Where is that book about "How to Unsee" when you need it?
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      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      I was just about to PM you and ask you to do that.
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  • Profile picture of the author crain
    I once saw a quadruple rainbow which no one else in the world has seen I wish I had taken a picture of it as they are so rare. The first photograph of one wasn't taken until 1996. It would have been worth millions.
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      Originally Posted by crain View Post

      I once saw a quadruple rainbow which no one else in the world has seen I wish I had taken a picture of it as they are so rare. The first photograph of one wasn't taken until 1996. It would have been worth millions.
      I saw a double rainbow a couple of days ago. The rainbow on the bottom had extremely bright colors.
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        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        I saw a double rainbow a couple of days ago. The rainbow on the bottom had extremely bright colors.
        Did the top one have finger nail scratches from the ecstasy of the situation ?
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          Originally Posted by crain View Post

          I once saw a quadruple rainbow which no one else in the world has seen I wish I had taken a picture of it as they are so rare. The first photograph of one wasn't taken until 1996. It would have been worth millions.
          Not really l used to live on a farm and saw a few of those!

          I wish l had a camera when l saw an asteroid enter the atmosphere and burn up?

          Easy to see, on a farm, no city lights!

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          There's nothing like IM optimism and hyperbole. lol

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          Give me 20 minutes, for that one.

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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by discrat View Post

          Did the top one have finger nail scratches from the ecstasy of the situation ?
          No, and it didn't smell like cat pee either.
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by crain View Post

      It would have been worth millions.
      There's nothing like IM optimism and hyperbole. lol

      I believe you have found your calling in life.

      Cheers. - Frank
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

        There's nothing like IM optimism and hyperbole. lol

        I believe you have found your calling in life.

        Cheers. - Frank

        If he could get the rainbow in a mason jar it would be worth more money.
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          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          If he could get the rainbow in a mason jar it would be worth more money.
          Yes, but I hope he isn't able to duplicate my process, lest the value of my quadruple-rainbow be reduced.

          I'm currently in intense negotiation with Sotheby's.

          Cheers. - Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author Kalambur
    Nice share, amazing photo. But I'm not a fan of this kind of art. I cannot decide whether it is a waste of time or a world-saving creation
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