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More of the college insanity that is today's students, and I use the term students very loosely. They're idiots. Their families are wasting huge amounts of money in an attempt to educate idiots.

I'd tell all who complained about the food or anything to go away or bring their own meals.

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lanfear63 8 years ago

Soo, if you ignore your emotional reactions about spoilt students and them not paying for it we are left with rich parents paying 50k a year to put them up in a really nice hotel with learning and meals, or equivalent to a first class seat on a plane.

So, complaints are being made about the food not being fresh stuff. More of a service provided for the money issue.
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  So, complaints are being made about the food not being fresh stuff. More of a service provided for the money issue.
  
  No. Read the article. It doesn't have a thing to do with the food not being fresh.
  
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  No. Read the article. It doesn't have a thing to do with the food not being fresh.
  
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  Added: Well Reddit, I must admit I was so used to Indian dishes being cooked in a certain way in the UK and was disappointed with the US equivalent offerings which were not nearly as good and tasted very different.
  
  As to the rest of it, political correctness gone mad, like condemning Yoga based on it coming from the Hindu religion. What nonsense.
  
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Mike Anthony 8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

More of the college insanity that is today's students, and I use the term students very loosely. They're idiots.

Or they are geniuses who came up with a way to protest the just generally (possible) bad food that couldn't be ignored.
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agc

8 years ago

Baloney: $3. Bread $2. $5 a week. OK, throw in some Kraft dinner for variety, and you're still under $15 a week.

It got me through college, and it can get your sorry spoiled ass through college too.

Shuddap and open your books.

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Can you imagine attending a university in Japan and demanding your dining hall provide properly prepared hamburgers, chili, gumbo, meat loaf...etc???

Excuse me. There hasn't been an Asian culture that has more rapidly adopted a Western diet on the face of the Earth.

They've recently added a new word to their dictionary: Diabetes!

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yukon

Banned 8 years ago

What happened to the good old days when you had to run through the woods bare footed hunting your own food with a stick?

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Jack Gordon

8 years ago

Since the article was published, Michile Gross, director of business operations and dining services at Oberlin, acknowledged students’ concerns, and told the paper: “Maybe what we should do is describe the dish for what it is as opposed to characterizing it with a specific name.”

No, maybe what you should do is give the people what they seem to be asking for.

Powdered eggs for breakfast, hot dogs for lunch and fried chicken for dinner. Every day.

That should reframe the conversation nicely within, I would guess, about a week.

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8 years ago

Start feeding them a bowl of gruel every meal.They'll soon be singing ...

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Dan Riffle

8 years ago

Nothing that comes out of Oberlin surprises me. This is one of the institutions that lead the charge for political correctness. You reap what you sow.

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agc

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Nothing that comes out of Oberlin surprises me. This is one of the institutions that lead the charge for political correctness. You reap what you sow.

Yeah well, they're reaping all right. Lots. Bumper crops.

Google Oberlin and the first suggestion is "Oberlin demands"... browse around that one for a few if you really want to experience the Orwellian future dystopia that's becoming today's disturbing reality.

The food complaint is just the tip of the insanity iceberg.

Oberlin Students Demand Payment for Protests
Oberlin Students Release Gargantuan 14-Page List Of Demands
Oberlin College Students: Cafeteria Food Is Racist

I like the part where they DEMAND $15/hr minimum wage (regardless of abilities), but they also DEMAND that workers be given work reflective of their abilities.

Well they did get the one thing they wished for most of all... they got attention.

Too bad the attention won't be sufficiently mocking and derisive to get them to grow the f*** up.

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8 years ago

[QUOTE=agc;10450321 future dystopia[/QUOTE]

I figure we owe the future better possibilities than dystopia.

Gotta undo the -dys an' figure all shades of U into cut of abundant topiary.

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Jill Carpenter

8 years ago

Originally Posted by agc

Baloney: $3. Bread $2. $5 a week. OK, throw in some Kraft dinner for variety, and you're still under $15 a week.

It got me through college, and it can get your sorry spoiled ass through college too.

Shuddap and open your books.

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Whatever happened to a good ol' packet of Ramens and a bottle of Texas Pete?

Breakfast, lunch and dinner of champions!

I was going to mention the Ramen noodles as well.

I've got kinda a split opinion on this.

We had the basic food line in college - which was a state school and very inexpensive. I actually worked in the cafeteria for a while and I know what we were being served. It wasn't the highest grade, but it was good enough. But the school had a budget to work with.

I have to wonder what the food budget is for this kind of place. I can get decent sushi at a couple of grocery stores. The key components are rice that is cooked right and having the freshest fish. Living near the coast and finding stores that actually employ a real sushi chef is key to all of that working.

If the meals are costing them anywhere around $20 a piece, then I dare say the budget is there for properly prepared "better than sloppy joes" type food. Even having worked in the restaurant industry for over 25 years I can tell you that high quality output is very doable on that type of budget.

The question is how much money is it for the meals they are getting. And perhaps before entry to the school, the kids should fill out a complete dietary requirements/suggestions form. Feed them what they want to eat and be sure to charge for it. Problem solved.

It was never mandatory to get a food card for on campus eating. So if there is nothing they want then they should be encouraged to go on out and get their own.

Another article, published by The Review in November, detailed what students said were instances of cultural appropriation carried out by Bon Appétit. The culinary culprits included a soggy, pulled-pork-and-coleslaw sandwich that tried to pass itself off as a traditional Vietnamese banh mi sandwich; a Chinese General Tso's chicken dish made with steamed instead of fried poultry; and some poorly prepared Japanese sushi.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/22/us...hall.html?_r=0

I'd be crying too if you were trying to feed me general Tso's and it wasn't fried. I'd rather go cook up a bag of ramen. If you can't make traditional food the way it is supposed to be traditionally done, then just don't do it. Or at the very least don't call it what ever it is "close" to being.

Now before anyone gets persnickity with me, you have to know that I will eat steamed lobster one night, and may settle for some good old chef boyardee ravioli the next night. The key is that I know what to expect.

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Claude Whitacre

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Nothing that comes out of Oberlin surprises me. This is one of the institutions that lead the charge for political correctness. You reap what you sow.

I tend to lean to the left, but you can go too far.......and these bleeding heart liberal baby students make me sick. There, I said it.

Crotchety old man in training.

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Princess Balestra

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I tend to dress to the left, but you can go too far.......and these bleeding heart liberal baby students make me sick. There, I said it.

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Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Crotchety old man in training.

More like a Doctorate in Doucheology.

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8 years ago

I cannot cook for f*ck.

Any swill kinda Gruel tops my Caviar au jus de Dieux.

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Dan Riffle 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Princess Balestra

I cannot cook for f*ck.

Any swill kinda Gruel tops my Caviar au jus de Dieux.

If you won't cook for ****, what will you cook for?
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  If you won't cook for ****, what will you cook for?
  
  Mebbe my shrunken head collection.
  
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alistair

8 years ago

I can't read the article without having to register so can't be bothered with that. Interesting take on political correctness in the video below though, and seen what he's describing more than once on this forum. Quite sad people really.

Political Correctness: You Silence Each Other So...

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Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter

I actually worked in the cafeteria for a while and I know what we were being served. It wasn't the highest grade, but it was good enough.

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Jill Carpenter 8 years ago

I had some sloppy joes via Hello Fresh about 2 months ago. OMG, home made, fresh ingredients, done very high end. Not your cafeteria sloppy joes.

The stuff gets delivered to you and you just follow the recipe and cook it up.

If anyone has heard of this company and wondered about it I highly recommend it.
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8 years ago

$50k damn, Ill tutor them for that.

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

More of the college insanity that is today's students, and I use the term students very loosely. They're idiots. Their families are wasting huge amounts of money in an attempt to educate idiots.

I'd tell all who complained about the food or anything to go away or bring their own meals.

Well, the women will go on to "save the world, and end poverty" and,.....become Miss Universe,.....maybe?

The men, dunno? Probably work for an evil corporation, and have dress and personal grooming identity issues?

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I cannot cook for f*ck.

Any swill kinda Gruel tops my Caviar au jus de Dieux.

Princess, l have been studying your avatar image, and it looks like Santa is,....umm, time to stop, l think?

After all he watches you when you are asleep, the stalking charges and still being processed?

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Cali16 8 years ago

Less then perfect sushi? OMG, that's horrible!!!!!

These spoiled, entitled college students are going to be in for a very rude awakening when they get out into the real world...
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8 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Princess, l have been studying your avatar image, and it looks like Santa is,....umm, time to stop, l think?

After all he watches you when you are asleep, the stalking charges and still being processed?

It is a hoptical illusion.

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Originally Posted by wlasikiewicz

$50k damn, Ill tutor them for that.

Most do NOT go to college to learn! Listen enough, listen to the ads and all, and you will quickly realize that! So WHY do most go there?

1. To be CODDLED!
2. To join fraternities, or perhaps sororities, to make "connections".
3. To get certain benefits, like meeting a spouse.
4. To get a DIPLOMA!

WHY do they want a diploma?
1. A job.
2. To take advantage of an international conspiracy to be placed at the front of various lines.
3. etc....

And THAT i why you have libraries FILLED with books, and the internet, and people still take worthless courses in college that mean NOTHING!

So YEAH, if you could teach people the hardest and most useful subjects, and did it for FREE, I can guarantee TWO things!

1. You will get takers, but only a FRACTION of those going to college!
2. It won't make a DENT in college admissions!

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Just when you think it couldn't get dumber....

Kay, I thought you knew . . . it can always get dumber.

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agc

8 years ago

If you want to protest the bad food just.....

wait for it.....

stop buying it.

I don't DEMAND that McDonalds use organic free range nuggets, or artisan heirloom french fries... I just hold my nose as I drive past.

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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by agc

If you want to protest the bad food just.....

wait for it.....

stop buying it.

I don't DEMAND that McDonalds use organic free range nuggets, or artisan heirloom french fries... I just hold my nose as I drive past.

Yep. Don't like it, don't eat it.

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Dan Riffle

8 years ago

Originally Posted by agc

If you want to protest the bad food just.....

wait for it.....

stop buying it.

I don't DEMAND that McDonalds use organic free range nuggets, or artisan heirloom french fries... I just hold my nose as I drive past.

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Yep. Don't like it, don't eat it.

Not that I want to stand up for snotty wankers at Oberlin, but most meal plans are paid as part of tuition, not on a daily out-of-pocket expenditure. Basically, the students are held hostage by the dining hall. Use your meal swipes or lose them. Since students tend not to have a lot of disposable cash, they have to settle for whatever slop the dining hall serves.

I remember my dining hall in undergrad. I basically ate cereal and fruit every meal unless they were serving one of the three meals that actually didn't taste like warmed dog food.

And I can only imagine the quality of sushi served at a college dining hall. I shudder to imagine the strain on Oberlin's sewer system.

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Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

I remember my dining hall in undergrad. I basically ate cereal and fruit every meal unless they were serving one of the three meals that actually didn't taste like warmed dog food.

If their bitch was about lousy food, I wouldn't even respond to this thread, as let's see ... airlines have lousy food that is included in the price, schools in general have lousy food and hospital food is garbage. It's par for the course.

I'll bet the food is above average and their little gripe is the ridiculously politically correct excuse of cultural appropriation. If it's just bad food, tough. That's life. If that's your biggest problem in college, you'll probably survive.

a Japanese student's complaint that rice used in the cafeteria sushi bar was undercooked and the fish wasn't fresh; a Vietnamese student's outrage that a beloved sliced pork and pickled vegetable sandwich called Bahn Mi was more American barbecue than Southeast Asian street food; and a Chinese student's pan of the cafeteria's version of the sweet and saucy favorite, General Tso's chicken.

Japanese student Tomoya Joshi called the cafeteria's efforts at serving sushi "disrespectful."

Is Asian students want Asian food, perhaps they should go to schools in the Asian country of their choice, depending on their cultural and food sensibilities.

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Dan Riffle

8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

If their bitch was about lousy food, I wouldn't even respond to this thread, as let's see ... airlines have lousy food that is included in the price, schools in general have lousy food and hospital food is garbage. It's par for the course.

I'll bet the food is above average and their little gripe is the ridiculously politically correct excuse of cultural appropriation. If it's just bad food, tough. That's life. If that's your biggest problem in college, you'll probably survive.

Is Asian students want Asian food, perhaps they should go to schools in the Asian country of their choice, depending on their cultural and food sensibilities.

Oh, no, I completely agree with you on this point. It's a ridiculous argument to make on their part. What I was saying was the whole "just stop buying the food" routine doesn't apply as well in this case as it does most everywhere else.

Oberlin might be expensive, but I'd bet most students come from standard income families and rely on grants, scholarships and student aid to pay tuition - which includes room and board. They don't have the cash to eat at Chipotle every day instead. I went to a similar private college not far, actually, from Oberlin.

Although, the ones complaining of food appropriation probably do. That just smacks of Affluenza.

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Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Oh, no, I completely agree with you on this point. It's a ridiculous argument to make on their part. What I was saying was the whole "just stop buying the food" routine doesn't apply as well in this case as it does most everywhere else.

Oberlin might be expensive, but I'd bet most students come from standard income families and rely on grants, scholarships and student aid to pay tuition - which includes room and board. They don't have the cash to eat at Chipotle every day instead. I went to a similar private college not far, actually, from Oberlin.

Although, the ones complaining of food appropriation probably do. That just smacks of Affluenza.

I'd solve the whole problem by simply stating this is an American university and you will be served American food. Adapt or starve. lol. Cheeseburgers, hot dogs, meat loaf, macaroni and cheese, that pounded meat product called swiss steak (only call it American steak on the menu), fish sticks, and fried chicken with boxed mashed potatoes.

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Dan Riffle

8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

I'd solve the whole problem by simply stating this is an American university and you will be served American food. Adapt or starve. lol. Cheeseburgers, hot dogs, meat loaf, macaroni and cheese, that pounded meat product called swiss steak (only call it American steak on the menu), fish sticks, and fried chicken with boxed mashed potatoes.

But Oberlin would never upset the sensitive proclivities of its students. Who do you think trains them to be this way? These students will get everything they want because the administration will be horrified to be seen as (micro)aggressors.

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Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

But Oberlin would never upset the sensitive proclivities of its students. Who do you think trains them to be this way? These students will get everything they want because the administration will be horrified to be seen as (micro)aggressors.

I know and this is what is so puzzling to me. The students seem to be leading administration around by the nose. After this protest, someone in charge of the dining room meekly said we will try to do better. That's not the words i would have used, but then, I probably wouldn't have kept the job very long either. lol

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Kay King 8 years ago

These kids have it easy. I was in a private college and we had fried chicken every Sunday night. It was not pieces of chicken but the bird was cut into quarters. We were not allowed to pick it up - but had to eat it with knife and fork.

We complained constantly - swore we were going to starve, etc. In the years since, I have attended many dinners and banquets where I was the only person at the table totally comfortable eating my chicken with a knife and fork...who knew?

Looking back at things I've learned that made life easier (though seemed unreasonable at the time I had to learn them)...three things would top that list:

1. requirement that I learn to type on a blank keyboard quickly and without errors to pass the class

2. the requirement (in high school) of a history teacher that I OUTLINE every chapter of the book - and turn in an outline for every paper I wrote for the class.

3. the requirements that I eat fried chicken with a knife and fork
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Kay King

8 years ago

This is not about "bad food" - it's about "cultural appropriation".

A Japanese student called the undercooked rice use in sushi "disrespectful." A Vietnamese student thought the effort at replicating a beloved Vietnamese street food "ridiculous."

The attitude is "if you can't make my cultural food exactly as served in my country....you aren't doing it right.

Some of the ingredients used in those countries aren't available (or aren't allowed) in this country. If you go to school in a foreign country, shouldn't you be willing to adapt your culinary tastes a bit? Apparently not at Oberlin.

My Grandson goes to an excellent university - but not as expensive as Oberlin. He can choose from eight places to eat any time he's ready for a meal. The spaghetti isn't just like it's served in Italy....neither is the Greek salad or the pizza or the stir-fry or the gyros. They don't have to be perfectly authentic to be good and according to GS the food is really good.

When he wants sushi, he goes to a restaurant uptown...same for Chinese and Thai cuisine. At $50-60k a year...those students should be able to afford uptown food.

He's looking at being an exchange student next year and one criteria in picking a country is "how's the food".

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Most do NOT go to college to learn! Listen enough, listen to the ads and all, and you will quickly realize that! So WHY do most go there?

WHY do they want a diploma?
1. A job.
2. To take advantage of an international conspiracy to be placed at the front of various lines.
3. etc....

And THAT i why you have libraries FILLED with books, and the internet, and people still take worthless courses in college that mean NOTHING!

So YEAH, if you could teach people the hardest and most useful subjects, and did it for FREE, I can guarantee TWO things!

1. You will get takers, but only a FRACTION of those going to college!
2. It won't make a DENT in college admissions!

Steve

Yes, l know about worthless courses, did a Certificate 5 in Administration a while ago, and basically spent a year, learning Occupation Health and Safety, to get a near worthless certificate!

But the people running the online course thought that it was wonderful, but it was a load of gov, bull!

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It is a hoptical illusion.

Phew, glad that Santa was just picki.....well glad he is behaving himself!

Best to leave a giant Baileys Gummybear out for Santa this year, that will mess up his route?

Had a cake with Baileys today, so l can do without it for a while!

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Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

I basically ate cereal and fruit every meal unless they were serving one of the three meals that actually didn't taste like warmed dog food.

Your insensitivity to the culinary culture of Canine Americans is appalling.
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  Your insensitivity to the culinary culture of Canine Americans is appalling.
  
  Au contraire, Mr. Gordon. Had I actually eaten the food that tasted like warmed dog food - but wasn't - I would have been a secondary microaggressor by accepting an inferior substitute.
  
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  LOL, that is very fancy. I had to look up swiss steak. I thought you might be referring to salsbury steak but they are different.
  
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  LOL, that is very fancy. I had to look up swiss steak. I thought you might be referring to salsbury steak but they are different.
  
  They are very much the same thing (one with fake gravy and the other with a tomato like gravy) ... somewhat like dog food served to culinarily insensitive individuals. Only thing is, Salisbury is also a city in England and in Maryland, so to call it either Swiss or Salisburg would be a microaggression of the highest order. To call it dog food would be animal abuse, so just call it "take that you whining bitches, and I don't want to hear a freaking word about dinner, or it will get worse." lol.
  
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  so just call it "take that you whining bitches, and I don't want to hear a freaking word about dinner, or it will get worse." lol.
  
  Suzanne, Oberlin should hire you - you'd have those students reconsidering all their petty complaints in no time!
  
  Would be priceless to see the looks on their faces when someone finally served them a dose of reality rather than kowtowing to their incessant whining.
  
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  Originally Posted by sbucciarel
  
  "Take that you whining bitches, and I don't want to hear a freaking word about dinner, or it will get worse." lol.
  
  I sense a bold new restaurant franchise targetin' executive types who get off on bein' treated bad.
  
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Princess Balestra

8 years ago

Next time I got fried chicken, I am gonna eat it with chopsticks.

My days of bein' a frickin' slob are over.

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sbucciarel Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Princess Balestra

Next time I got fried chicken, I am gonna eat it with chopsticks.

My days of bein' a frickin' slob are over.

lol ... deck the halls with balls of folly. I wait with anticipation to see what new embellishments will be on your avatar.
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- Princess Balestra 8 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by sbucciarel
  
  lol ... deck the halls with balls of folly. I wait with anticipation to see what new embellishments will be on your avatar.
  
  Ha!
  
  Me too!
  
  But now I have inspiration.
  
  Meantime, I am gonna fix me up some luncheon.
  
  I figure a grain of prime rice, cooked al dente an' cut into slices, garnished with lettuce an' mebbe a turnip.
  
  Let it not be said that I am a stranger to sophistication.
  
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writeaway

8 years ago

I went to Cal Berkeley and, back in my time, people were complaining why HISTORY starts with 'HIS'

They claimed it was gender-insensitive

The ruckus died down when someone finally sobered up long enough to find the etymology behind 'history'

LOL (while crying)

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Princess Balestra 8 years ago

Originally Posted by writeaway

I went to Cal Berkeley and, back in my time, people were complaining why HISTORY starts with 'HIS')

You went someplace starts with the C letter?

Were you crazy?
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