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How Americans Got So Fat, in Charts

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While my popcorn was popping for tonight's Asian Market action, I came across this gem.



How Americans Got So Fat, in Charts - Bloomberg Business

Lots more interesting charts in the article.

Fascinating. People are fat because they eat 20% more per day. That 20% more per day doesn't make them 20% fatter, because fat is accumulated. day by day week by week pound by pound.

Basically we're up 250 calories of cooking fats, 125 calories of cheap junk carbs, and 50 calories of sugar. Per day per capita.

Mmmmm cheeseburger. Actually the cheeseburger isn't so terrible on it's own. It's the fries and coke that bump you over the 2000.
  • Profile picture of the author driven2fly
    Soda pop my friend, people drink more soda pop in this country than anywhere else in the world. Chinese people average 6 cans of soda in a year, where as that much soda is consumed by many Americans on daily basis.
    I was a CDL driver for very long time, and every truck stop sold loads of soda 24 hours a day. Take a look around at any Gas station people are lined up and filling up 32 to 44 oz cups all day long for .89 cents.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by driven2fly View Post

      Soda pop my friend, people drink more soda pop in this country than anywhere else in the world. Chinese people average 6 cans of soda in a year, where as that much soda is consumed by many Americans on daily basis.
      I was a CDL driver for very long time, and every truck stop sold loads of soda 24 hours a day. Take a look around at any Gas station people are lined up and filling up 32 to 44 oz cups all day long for .89 cents.
      Just for clarification, I don't think many will fill it up for .89, and they don't often offer free refills. ALSO, you don't often see such lines for that. And some truck stops are even set up to allow people to SLEEP there on long hauls, and truck drivers may want a lot for such occasions. Some trucks even have beds to sleep in to cut costs and allow for security of the truck, so it is a bad thing to compare considering that some routes may go for over a hundred miles with no stops.

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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        This diet soda has been a huge problem for many. These sweeteners like Splenda and Aspartame do something to your Insulin levels and causes many to over eat carbs and sugars to compensate

        So diet drinks have opposite effect on what they were intended to do

        Btw, guys I have been cold turkey with Diet Coke since New Years eve. A huge accomplishment for me being a diet coke addict.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          I drink Coke Cherry Zero and 7-UP diet cherry but in moderation.

          One week ago today I started a diet based on dietdoctor.com. I'm not big on self denial and any diet that includes bacon is good enough for me.

          No hunger, good food, easy to stick with - and shocked to see just this morning that I've lost 5 lbs. This is my kind of diet!

          I still have a cup of tea in the morning with real sugar - and a diet drink once a day.
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          • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
            It's puzzling that so much nutritional "advice" still centers on the ridiculously over-simplified equation between calories in and calories out - as if the human body were some sort of electric generator, rather than an incredibly complex and interconnected living organism. As Robert alluded to, every bit of food we ingest sets up multiple chemical reactions within the body - the creation of insulin being just one.

            The problems with the modern human diet can be traced back to the Agricultural Revolution, which was the start of our fixation with wheat and corn-based foodstuffs. Then the industrialization of food manufacturing over the last century or so turned much of what we eat into packages of processed convenience products, to which huge chunks of the population have become addicted.
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            • Profile picture of the author HeySal
              Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

              It's puzzling that so much nutritional "advice" still centers on the ridiculously over-simplified equation between calories in and calories out - as if the human body were some sort of electric generator, rather than an incredibly complex and interconnected living organism. As Robert alluded to, every bit of food we ingest sets up multiple chemical reactions within the body - the creation of insulin being just one.

              The problems with the modern human diet can be traced back to the Agricultural Revolution, which was the start of our fixation with wheat and corn-based foodstuffs. Then the industrialization of food manufacturing over the last century or so turned much of what we eat into packages of processed convenience products, to which huge chunks of the population have become addicted.
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              I'm not sure about what goes on over there -- but here in the US our "food pyramid" is actually constructed by the USDA -- that is by the agricultural industry. A few years back (maybe as long as a decade ago, I can't remember) our food pyramid, which is used by our health "authorities" as our chart of suggested food intake, was revised.

              As a result of this revision - the food pyramid now suggests 11 helpings of grains and other carbohydrates daily! This is on top of the 4 or 5 of fruits and veggies (a little backward on the chart ya think?) and the allotments of meat and dairy. That's around 15 to 16 helpings a day without even getting to meat and dairy. I don't even know how people can stuff down the "suggested" quantity of food -- let alone what that many carbs may end up doing to their health other than feeding the hell out of any cancers starting to form.
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              • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                No one has mentioned that exercise is a great way to burn off fat and something that is sadly lacking in my life these days and probably for a lot of Americans. I could eat what I liked in the UK and still remain slim, (not that what I eat was that bad, less fat and sugar in foods) but there you tend to walk a lot more. Distances are a lot shorter but I thought nothing of walking for 45 minutes every day.

                Here, in the Houston area, they seem to forget about building sidewalks (pavements) for walking on, giving it all over for road width for cars. Our Sub Division has none, you have to walk in the road.

                I honestly don't know if we could feed the current high population of the world with natural foods though. Lack of space to grow stuff. Processed becomes a necessity. Reduce the world population over a couple of generations though and all will be possible, as well as reducing emissions which would help immensely in the recovery of the planet.

                On a practical note, in the UK we have tons of different flavoured fruit concentrate in whats called Fruit Cordial drinks. Look at the British section in your stores for Robinsons Barley Water and Ribena and others (a lot more expensive here but they make tons of drinks).

                You just pour a little in a glass and top it up with water and ice. Delicious, real flavour. I was surprised not to find them here, aside from the crap powder drinks like Tang you only have the synthetic, ready to drink stuff.

                I can see why they are not here though, how much that would hurt the soda industry.
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                • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                  Here's a fat guy who got in the charts..

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                • Profile picture of the author rondo
                  Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post


                  On a practical note, in the UK we have tons of different flavoured fruit concentrate in whats called Fruit Cordial drinks. Look at the British section in your stores for Robinsons Barley Water and Ribena and others (a lot more expensive here but they make tons of drinks).

                  You just pour a little in a glass and top it up with water and ice. Delicious, real flavour. I was surprised not to find them here, aside from the crap powder drinks like Tang you only have the synthetic, ready to drink stuff.

                  I can see why they are not here though, how much that would hurt the soda industry.
                  Really?? No cordial over there?
                  In Australia every kid grows up drinking cordial.

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                • Profile picture of the author discrat
                  Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                  No one has mentioned that exercise is a great way to burn off fat and something that is sadly lacking in my life these days and probably for a lot of Americans. I could eat what I liked in the UK and still remain slim, (not that what I eat was that bad, less fat and sugar in foods) but there you tend to walk a lot more. Distances are a lot shorter but I thought nothing of walking for 45 minutes every day.

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                  It's HUGE. You can literally have a mediocre diet and exercise like a mad man and be relatively healthy. I have seen time and time again. ( note: What do I mean about mediocre diet ? Eating all the essential foods that are healthy and known to combat heart disease and cancer but somehow mixing in a few bad foods including some bad carbs and fat)
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                  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                    Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                    It's HUGE. You can literally have a mediocre diet and exercise like a mad man and be relatively healthy. I have seen time and time again. ( note: What do I mean about mediocre diet ? Eating all the essential foods that are healthy and known to combat heart disease and cancer but somehow mixing in a few bad foods including some bad carbs and fat)
                    So. You've been talking to my dad? I hope you don't tell him about the sh*te I spew in here, huh?

                    My father was a gym teacher before being promoted to school admin. He always maintained that exercise was the more important of the two between diet and exercise because exercise keeps the waste removal system running so if you were taking in trash, you were also getting rid of it rapidly. Of course - these lectures came at a time that food, even when junk food, were real and not poisoned with the tons of deadly toxins they use now - and chemicals weren't laced into everything you swallowed.

                    Still, in all, we all had fairly decent diets and while we diverted and ate some junk, we paid attention to our food intake. My dad is almost 92 years old. He still rides a bike and plays golf, etc. so he's giving a pretty good testimony for knowing what he was talking about.

                    I don't worry every time I don't eat right, since I do most of the time. I highly worry when I know I'm not getting enough exercise - and haven't felt as good since I don't have a dog to take out every day because I don't get as much healthful movement as usual.
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                • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                  Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                  No one has mentioned that exercise is a great way to burn off fat and something that is sadly lacking in my life these days and probably for a lot of Americans.
                  enjoyed vigorous exercise starting at a young age but got very tired of my mother informing me that those muscles would come at the expense of going blind and having hairy palms for the rest of my life.

                  Mom was a buzz-kill and now I'm fat.

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      Originally Posted by driven2fly View Post

      I was a CDL driver for very long time, and every truck stop sold loads of soda 24 hours a day. Take a look around at any Gas station people are lined up and filling up 32 to 44 oz cups all day long for .89 cents.
      Where I live they serve it in 55 gallon drums.

      Personally, I never touch the stuff except for the rare Stewart's Root Beer or Vanilla Cream. Okay, Okay - perhaps I do slip in the occasional Black Cherry, but I doubt that I drink 6 bottles per year and I don't recall having any in 2015.

      The stuff is deadly.

      Cheers. - Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    According to one site I went to, if I weighed 175pounds, I should take in 2681 calories!!!!!!

    2544 is NOT that much! ALSO, some fat people don't eat all that much. I see some THIN people eating a LOT, and some hevy people eating like birds. I think what REALLY does it is the food additives, that are PROVEN to increase estrogen which, in part, is PROVEN to increase weight gain, especially in the abdomen. It is true of men AND women. ALSO, the decrease in effort in a normal day, and the lower quality of health. OH, and ALSO the RELATIVE calories. You can see above that the relative calories, between 1970 and now are almost IDENTICAL, except for the last three categories. Almost ALL of those are GOOD calories, except for the last three categories!

    BTW From the 1940s to now, the average american breakfast went from one that has a LOT of protein to one that has virtually NONE, if you even have a breakfast. And calories have more of an effect if they are more sporadic. If three people take 2500 calories split evenly every day every day, and are the same height, musculature, and activity level, the one having 5 meals a day will gain LESS fat, and likely more muscle. the one having 2 meals a day will likely gain MORE fat and LESS muscle.

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    • Profile picture of the author magdag4321
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      According to one site I went to, if I weighed 175pounds, I should take in 2681 calories!!!!!!

      2544 is NOT that much! ALSO, some fat people don't eat all that much. I see some THIN people eating a LOT, and some hevy people eating like birds. I think what REALLY does it is the food additives, that are PROVEN to increase estrogen which, in part, is PROVEN to increase weight gain, especially in the abdomen. It is true of men AND women. ALSO, the decrease in effort in a normal day, and the lower quality of health. OH, and ALSO the RELATIVE calories. You can see above that the relative calories, between 1970 and now are almost IDENTICAL, except for the last three categories. Almost ALL of those are GOOD calories, except for the last three categories!

      BTW From the 1940s to now, the average american breakfast went from one that has a LOT of protein to one that has virtually NONE, if you even have a breakfast. And calories have more of an effect if they are more sporadic. If three people take 2500 calories split evenly every day every day, and are the same height, musculature, and activity level, the one having 5 meals a day will gain LESS fat, and likely more muscle. the one having 2 meals a day will likely gain MORE fat and LESS muscle.

      Steve
      i've not read any study that shows fat people do not eat all that much. Even the fat people that claim this, eat either very unhealthy or MUCH when i hang out with them.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by magdag4321 View Post

        i've not read any study that shows fat people do not eat all that much. Even the fat people that claim this, eat either very unhealthy or MUCH when i hang out with them.
        I didn't say it was true of ALL, or eve true of most, but it IS true!

        HECK, I don't eat much! I probably didn't even have 2000 calories today, and had less yesterday.

        With ME, it isn't calories, but WHAT I eat, and how much I do. And I HAVE known people that eat FAR more, and LOSE weight! HECK, I once ate FAR more, and lost weight FAST! WHY? It had a lot of protein, and was low in carbs.

        And if you REALLY believe it is quantity?

        1. The calories shown today in the OP is NOT that much!
        2. The top 3 areas ARE over 90% of the difference, and everyone AGREES, including the posts here that mention any specifics, that they are BAD!

        As for BMI? It is a DUMB and OVER SIMPLIFIED number! I have seen overweight people the BMI would say were fine, and it would say Arnold Schwartzeneger at his best was OBESE!

        BMI is a SCAM foisted on people ONLY because it is simple and makes many seem obese. HEY, HERE is the formula: BMI = ( Weight in Kilograms / ( Height in Meters x Height in Meters ) )

        Is every meter the same density? NOPE! So it is FLAWED! Is ANY meter on a particular person the same density regarding useful mass? NOPE! So it is FLAWED! So can see how one must think that nature is VERY perfect and uniform, in order to realistically believe it is ANYWHERE near decent.

        BTW, it ALSO assumes that the dimensions and makeup of a male and female body are IDENTICAL! That is MORONIC! I mean REALLY? A woman is thinner at points, and wider at others and yet it is overall IDENTICAL? The uterus weighs precisely as much as the overall loss of weight from other areas? The breasts are likewise? The old charts that covered the general population, and some even were medically analyzed, show that women and men are DIFFERENT! SURPRISE!

        If you want a REASONABLE calculation, look at the US navy method. They analyzed a lot of people, take SEVERAL measurements, and even compensate for gender variances! Their calculations ALSO account for fat versus muscle! GEE, do you think it might be because they don't trust simple charts, and want FIT people?

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        • Profile picture of the author agc
          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

          As for BMI? It is a DUMB and OVER SIMPLIFIED number! I have seen overweight people the BMI would say were fine, and it would say Arnold Schwartzeneger at his best was OBESE!

          BMI is a SCAM foisted on people ONLY because it is simple and makes many seem obese. HEY, HERE is the formula: BMI = ( Weight in Kilograms / ( Height in Meters x Height in Meters ) )
          Um, relax. Did you bother to notice that I didn't say "set the BMI that everyone should be"? No of course not. Too busy jerking that knee and pounding the keyboard.

          What I said was rather than measure calories per capita per day, measure BMI per capita. That is an aggregated measure that shows how the population, who is not getting any taller, is getting fatter.

          Calories may be the cause. Or TV may be the cause. Or both maybe. Or maybe some outer space fat ray is being beamed down to fatten us up for the harvest. Right.

          But measuring the increase in BMI per capita is like measuring the increase in inflation adjusted median family income per capita. It obviously doesn't apply to everyone. It's a measure of the health of the population as a whole.

          Then of course you have to get into the variability of the population around that mean. This of course is the standard deviation. You use it to measure the degree to which individuals vary from the mean (population average).

          Then of course, you could also use BMI * body fat % * 10 / gender average. Or some such. I could come up with a pretty good measure... but of course it's useless if I can't get the metric value for the population. Or for a "statistically valid sample" of the population.

          But to rant about how BMI is flawed at the individual level completely misses the point.
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          • Profile picture of the author HeySal
            Originally Posted by agc View Post

            Um, relax. Did you bother to notice that I didn't say "set the BMI that everyone should be"? No of course not. Too busy jerking that knee and pounding the keyboard.

            What I said was rather than measure calories per capita per day, measure BMI per capita. That is an aggregated measure that shows how the population, who is not getting any taller, is getting fatter.

            Calories may be the cause. Or TV may be the cause. Or both maybe. Or maybe some outer space fat ray is being beamed down to fatten us up for the harvest. Right.

            But measuring the increase in BMI per capita is like measuring the increase in inflation adjusted median family income per capita. It obviously doesn't apply to everyone. It's a measure of the health of the population as a whole.

            Then of course you have to get into the variability of the population around that mean. This of course is the standard deviation. You use it to measure the degree to which individuals vary from the mean (population average).

            Then of course, you could also use BMI * body fat % * 10 / gender average. Or some such. I could come up with a pretty good measure... but of course it's useless if I can't get the metric value for the population. Or for a "statistically valid sample" of the population.

            But to rant about how BMI is flawed at the individual level completely misses the point.
            You want causes?

            Overeating
            Sedentary lifestyle
            Chemicals in foods
            Alcohol (inhibits fat burning)
            Gut fluora imbalances that become worse as you gain more
            Climate control (heat = air conditioning)
            Sleep deprivation
            Serial dieting
            Starvation mode triggering
            Thyroid or hormone issues

            Is that good for a few?
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            • Profile picture of the author seasoned
              Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

              You want causes?

              Overeating
              Sedentary lifestyle
              Chemicals in foods
              Alcohol (inhibits fat burning)
              Gut fluora imbalances that become worse as you gain more
              Climate control (heat = air conditioning)
              Sleep deprivation
              Serial dieting
              Starvation mode triggering
              Thyroid or hormone issues

              Is that good for a few?
              Overeating may be the first on your list, but I bet it isn't the top cause. The others are certainly other reasons. And alcohol is really very similar to sugar. These days, some food even plays games talking about "sugar alcohols"! As for starvation, it is effectively the biggest cause of insulin spikes. That increases the NEED for exercise while decreasing the ability to burn it off and the desire to exercise.

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          • Profile picture of the author seasoned
            Originally Posted by agc View Post

            Um, relax. Did you bother to notice that I didn't say "set the BMI that everyone should be"? No of course not. Too busy jerking that knee and pounding the keyboard.

            What I said was rather than measure calories per capita per day, measure BMI per capita. That is an aggregated measure that shows how the population, who is not getting any taller, is getting fatter.

            Calories may be the cause. Or TV may be the cause. Or both maybe. Or maybe some outer space fat ray is being beamed down to fatten us up for the harvest. Right.

            But measuring the increase in BMI per capita is like measuring the increase in inflation adjusted median family income per capita. It obviously doesn't apply to everyone. It's a measure of the health of the population as a whole.

            Then of course you have to get into the variability of the population around that mean. This of course is the standard deviation. You use it to measure the degree to which individuals vary from the mean (population average).

            Then of course, you could also use BMI * body fat % * 10 / gender average. Or some such. I could come up with a pretty good measure... but of course it's useless if I can't get the metric value for the population. Or for a "statistically valid sample" of the population.

            But to rant about how BMI is flawed at the individual level completely misses the point.
            Well, almost any measue that sometimes allows healthy people could be viewed that way, but healthy weight is CONDITIONAL! Flawed is flawed!

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            • Profile picture of the author agc
              Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

              Well, almost any measue that sometimes allows healthy people could be viewed that way, but healthy weight is CONDITIONAL! Flawed is flawed!

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              Huh?



              Srsly. Huh?
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              • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                Originally Posted by agc View Post

                Huh?



                Srsly. Huh?
                If a really bad weakling that was 6'2", and was missing a leg, weighed 245, they would be SERIOUSLY overweight! Arnold schwarzenegger in his prime weighed that, and was fine.

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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      BTW From the 1940s to now, the average american breakfast went from one that has a LOT of protein to one that has virtually NONE, if you even have a breakfast.
      Steve
      What is life, without scrapple and eggs, fried new potatoes with garlic and onion, a crunchy Thomas' English muffin drenched in butter, a cup of Hawaiian Kona and a shot of insulin?

      Easy answer - 'life not worth living!'

      Cheers.

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  • Profile picture of the author agc
    Perhaps, but once you cut back on the coke and meth your metabolism will return to normal.

    lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Now that the fattening up has become ingrained into our culture, the next step is to get us used to spending time inside pods for whatever reason.

    Thirty years from now we'll be happily walking into the tanks our lizard overlords from "V" will store us in until feeding time.
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  • Profile picture of the author agc
    Frank, that's a second order solution to a first order problem.

    In sports parlance, if you can't block and tackle you shouldn't be worried about zone vs man coverage.

    Yes, the packaged crap is part of the problem, as if you look at the charts you can see where the extra calories are coming in.

    But also eating out more is also part of the problem. Not just because of the fries and coke, although that's a lot of it, but even away from fast food you still have mega fat and sugar added to already excessive portions.

    And I'm not blaming the restaurants, which have to turn a profit, and who can't sell 2/3 as as much food for 2/3 the price and still pay the rent on the tables. Nor can they sell 2/3 as much food for the same price, because the fat ass customers will go next door instead.

    Of course, no free passes for the restaurants either, as they just load the hell outta fats and sugars, Ever take home pasta from Applebees, Olive Garden or Cheesecake factory? The amount of fat that separates out in the fridge is just insane.

    I suppose what we really need in the country are a couple luxury taxes... Gas tax raised $1 per year until it's $10/gal. Tax on restaurant meals over 1200 calories. How about 1 cent per excess calorie?
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by agc View Post

      Frank, that's a second order solution to a first order problem.
      I wasn't attempting to offer a solution. One of the by-products of the Agricultural Revolution and the ensuing industrialization of food manufacturing was that it brought about a huge surge in human population numbers. We're now long past the stage where we can turn back the clock, short of a large and sudden drop in population.

      My point is that we should at least recognize the futility of any diet advice that simply focuses on calorific intake. If we understood the reaction on our metabolism of foods that even today are considered "healthy", we'd be able to make more informed decisions about what we eat - and how not to put on (or how to lose) excess weight.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    White bread and sugar.

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  • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
    Way I see it, we're fillin' ourselves fulla crap, slobbin' around on too many sofas, an' overconveniencin' our in/out relationship with calories, proteins an' vits.

    Solution?

    1) De-hook your taste buds from alla the unnatural sugar, salt & fats.

    2) Do more walkin', t'ai chi, dancin' an' stuff.

    3) Quit snackin', nibblin', nooblin' an' treato chompin'.

    4) Fix yourself up with a hardcore anxiety disorder an' fret your ass off.

    5) Book into a clinic an' colonically irrigate whle u liposuck.

    6) Be a naturally skinny f*cker for whom nonea this applies & thereby claim your Fitbit Downright Hypocrite badge.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Frank,

      ...our fixation with wheat and corn-based foodstuffs
      This right here!



      Since developing my allergies to wheat, barley, oats, rye and corn last March, I have dropped well over 20 pounds avoiding all of it and I wasn't even trying to lose anything!

      I actually need some of it back. Trying to put on a little weight with these allergies is hard! I home make everything from bread to pancakes to pasta using rice, coconut and almond flours.

      Some of my friends are calling me the incredible shrinking lady.

      If you seriously want to lose some weight, you should avoid all of the above. And if you use the above flours for your bread and pasta cravings, you won't feel deprived.

      One day, if you're not too busy, you should read the labels on the foods you eat. You'll be amazed at how much of it has corn syrup. Most over the counter medicines do even cough drops do for crying out loud!

      Sorry for rattling on disjointedly.

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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

        Sorry for rattling on disjointedly.
        Not disjointed at all, Terra. It's hard not to get worked up when the extent of how we've all been manipulated into accepting a diet that's both unnatural and chronically harmful is slowly but surely starting to be uncovered.

        This book changed my outlook on food. I recommend it to anyone interested in nutrition - and not just for weight control.

        Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About It: Gary...Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About It: Gary... (Not an affiliate link)
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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          What really intrigues me is this...

          All of the foods I mentioned that I developed allergies to are the very foods that I was told to avoid in Eat Right 4 Your Type by Dr. Peter J. D'Adamo. Type refers to your blood type.

          Anyway, when my mother-in-law bought everyone in the family this book a few years back, I read part of it and cringed. I thought there was no way I could live without my breads and pasta and corn products saying I should have been born Italian, lol!

          Then the allergies developed and I discovered that I can live without those things. It's much better than your throat closing on ya, right?

          Now that I'm thinking about it, I should unpack that book and finish reading it, haha!


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  • Profile picture of the author agc
    I agree Frank. Just saying calories in calories out is the first place to start, as correcting that tends to cut out more of the bad stuff than good.


    Really, the correct measure isn't calories in calories out.

    The best measure would be based one lbs. Maybe a 180 day moving average of BMI?.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    It's no mystery, stop eating sugar & you'll lose weight.

    I'm sure some folks have health problems that make them gain weight but the average person will lose weight If they stop eating/drinking sugar.

    It really is all about self control & breaking bad habits.

    BTW, I don't think anyone needs a guru to walk them through weight loss. Nobody can make someone else stop eating sugar.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      It's no mystery, stop eating sugar & you'll lose weight.

      I'm sure some folks have health problems that make them gain weight but the average person will lose weight If they stop eating/drinking sugar.

      It really is all about self control & breaking bad habits.

      BTW, I don't think anyone needs a guru to walk them through weight loss. Nobody can make someone else stop eating sugar.
      If you're allergic to corn, you can certainly stop eating a lot of sweets. Most sweets have corn syrup in them.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    I heard the plates of today are bigger than in the past.
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  • Profile picture of the author magdag4321
    IF YOU ARE FAT OR OBESE, YOU ARE EITHER EATING UNHEALTHY OR TOO MUCH, THERE IS NOTHING LIKE " this is how my body works".
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    • Profile picture of the author agc
      Originally Posted by magdag4321 View Post

      IF YOU ARE FAT OR OBESE, YOU ARE EITHER EATING UNHEALTHY OR TOO MUCH, THERE IS NOTHING LIKE " this is how my body works".
      While it is certainly more likely that this is true for an obese person, it not a guaranteed fact.

      Different people have different metabolisms and there are genetic differences in in your body "wants" to be built.

      For me, being thin is rather easy. My metabolism has always been high, and I never had to work too hard at losing weight. But I could never gain weight in school and was the skinny kid that got picked on. Although I've filled out over the years to an almost normal weight, it is still almost impossible for me to bulk up. I can pack on a waist, but I can't add 30 lbs well distributed.

      Someone with a former NFL offensive lineman in their heritage may find the exact opposite to be true.

      To deny that is not only foolish... it is selfish. It means you get the privilege of judging others on a scale that favors you. Worse, you don't even recognize the privilege you are exploiting when judging others.
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      • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
        Originally Posted by agc View Post

        Different people have different metabolisms and there are genetic differences in in your body "wants" to be built.
        Try tellin' that to the gal with the weaponized booty shoppin' for thongs in the Drapes n Parachutes section of the mall.
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      • Profile picture of the author magdag4321
        Originally Posted by agc View Post

        While it is certainly more likely that this is true for an obese person, it not a guaranteed fact.

        Different people have different metabolisms and there are genetic differences in in your body "wants" to be built.

        For me, being thin is rather easy. My metabolism has always been high, and I never had to work too hard at losing weight. But I could never gain weight in school and was the skinny kid that got picked on. Although I've filled out over the years to an almost normal weight, it is still almost impossible for me to bulk up. I can pack on a waist, but I can't add 30 lbs well distributed.

        Someone with a former NFL offensive lineman in their heritage may find the exact opposite to be true.

        To deny that is not only foolish... it is selfish. It means you get the privilege of judging others on a scale that favors you. Worse, you don't even recognize the privilege you are exploiting when judging others.
        this sounds basically to me like same old fiction........."this is how my body works".

        Like i said, eat unhealthy, eat much, i really do not care who or what you are, YOU WILL GET FAT!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
    Akshly, try sayin' that to the crisped Vulcanry of paranoiacraft in the Drapes n Parachutes section of my previous example as the sales guy is bemoanin' the sudden influx of swingin' an' slappin' flesh to his store at the expense of Slimmocrotch V-wear coupla blocks down.

    But hey, such is the bile of willowyness to the point of transparency.

    "Anythin' out is good forya."
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  • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
    Hey Frank, yanno how sometimes you jus' wanna *facepalm*?

    So, yeah — I jus' monitorfaced.

    But I am not bummed my nose was bruised on account of your sustainohubris.

    Jus' wanna tella I love the flick of your pepper over those eggs.

    Sprayaspacey.
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

      HJus' wanna tella I love the flick of your pepper over those eggs.
      Now we know that you're an art lover.

      Cheers. - Frank
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by virtualtechie18 View Post

      Well, They eat a lot that why.
      Our latest applicant for Surgeon General.

      Cheers. - Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
    Dang.
    I really need new glasses...
    I saw this topic as " How americans got so farts, in chats"
    I was relieved,
    Finally!
    An answer to my ever growing flatulence issue!
    Then to my dismay, it just was not so.
    Sigh.

    p.s. good to see all the usual suspects, " I'll be back"
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