Best places to work in America?

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I will be attending a work and travel program in America, can anyone recommend me some states to consider and states to avoid? I would like a state that is great for shopping, doesn't necessarily have to be very outdoor with hiking and etc and most importantly great living conditions. I have zero clue where to start and don't even know what to expect.

I was thinking of Delaware, working in McDonald's. Anyone else beg to differ if given a choice based on your experience living in the USA.
  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    You're planning to come here from abroad, to work at McDonalds? They offer a work / travel program?

    There are a lot more jobs here that will pay you for the skills you've got. What skills do you have?

    The state is irrelevant unless you're looking for the $15 / hour minimum wage. If you are, it will only get you by for a year or two before the price of living skyrockets.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I would suggest you learn something about the US - the various "regions" and the employment/natural beauty/crime rate/etc of specific cities.

      I'd also suggest you travel while you are here. You'll never learn much about the US by going to one place and staying there.

      Why would you come here to work in a McDonalds? That's odd.

      I would suggest you use google by searching for the terms below:


      malaysia to US work travel program

      visit US where to go


      You will find pages and pages of results and information and tutorials - start reading and have a US map open in a window on your computer so you reference areas you read about.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    They are not SUPPOSED to allow anyone to work unless they are a citizen, or have a visa to work. ALSO, I believe you need a visa to stay more than 3 months.

    Also, a wage like $15 may sound like a lot, but that is less than $22620/year(Not counting vacation, taxes, requirements, etc....). That is LESS than $1885 a month, and it may cost perhaps half of that to get an apartment. It is also enough to put up up in the average US hotel for LESS than 18 days. In washington DC in the height of the season, it may only be enough for 4 days. There is ACTUALLY a hotel within a couple blocks of the whitehouse gates that may not even let you stay there for a DAY at that price!

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    • Profile picture of the author brandonwcm
      I am a fresh grad food scientist. I am just traveling here through an agency with visa and is a common practice in Malaysia. The employers all pay minimum wage, around 8.xx$ to 10$ so i guess come to think of it - priority to me is a great state where I can hang out and chill. With great happening around like comic con or conventions, sporting events.

      In Malaysia you'd usually have to be in Kuala Lumpur, where shopping is abundant and events including sporting are usually held. I am not sure if you get my drift but is there like a heart of all attractions in one city in the United States?

      @kayking I guess I'll look up regarding each state on the Internet. Thanks...
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      • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
        Then look to get a job working for company in the US that has a need for "fresh grad food scientist." Supermarkets in the salad section would be better then process food. Actually working for a major chain or the producer of greens beats McDonalds any day.

        Stay away from colder area's like Delaware if you do not care for Winter, or stay away from the deep South if you do not like the Heat in the Summer. NYC, LA and Chicago are some big cities to make the $$'s but the cost of living is insane. Like other had said, pick a area to visit. Maybe even ask help from your country about US travel guides and visa. Or type in a search of US websites like this one http://travel.state.gov/content/visa...-exchange.html

        Another idea Disney was hiring people from overseas may be something to consider. Their theme parks and hotels may have needs for people into fresh food visit https://jobs.disneycareers.com/. IMHO
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by brandonwcm View Post

        I am a fresh grad food scientist. I am just traveling here through an agency with visa and is a common practice in Malaysia. The employers all pay minimum wage, around 8.xx$ to 10$ so i guess come to think of it - priority to me is a great state where I can hang out and chill. With great happening around like comic con or conventions, sporting events.

        In Malaysia you'd usually have to be in Kuala Lumpur, where shopping is abundant and events including sporting are usually held. I am not sure if you get my drift but is there like a heart of all attractions in one city in the United States?

        @kayking I guess I'll look up regarding each state on the Internet. Thanks...
        I don't think there is any one city you can say is KING. If you want amusement parks, skiing(water or snow), food, etc.... Orange COUNTY might be as close as you get. Of course, I think San diego as a city could come close there. But it really depends on your interests, etc....

        And YEAH, if you are a graduate, especially if you have a high skilled/priced job, and a place here, the visas are a LOT easier to get.

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Hanging out and chilling on minimum wage in the US is called poverty. Better do some research on cost of living before you grab that McD's job that no one really wants to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author brandonwcm
      When you say cost of living is high? What are you referring to? The stay? The food? Past batches have been to USA and they say its a fun place. Stay is around 100$ or less per week. I get to work 32 hours with possibility of a second job. I am only unsure about the cost of food but have heard that it is reasonable,

      FYI, I am only here for three months, sorry I forgot to mention so I can't be doing permanent job like a food scientist. I was so confused when most of you told me to get a more professional job haha.

      By the way, here is a list of jobs on offer for this program:
      http://www.infinity-abroad.com/resou...ployer-tables/
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by brandonwcm View Post

        Stay is around 100$ or less per week.
        In your dreams or maybe in some ghetto areas if you don't eat much. Where are you coming from? That might help in comparing cost of living? Where do you plan to stay/sleep?
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        • Profile picture of the author brandonwcm
          They offer housing at that price. It is probably because I am room sharing with other people. The weekly housing rate is stated there in my previous post, in the link I provided...

          McDonalds Rehoboth, Delaware - 82$/weekly for housing
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by brandonwcm View Post

            They offer housing at that price. It is probably because I am room sharing with other people. The weekly housing rate is stated there in my previous post, in the link I provided...

            McDonalds Rehoboth, Delaware - 82$/weekly for housing
            In my area, $82 per week will buy one room in a long term/weekly roach and bed bug infested hotel room that is filthy and has one full sized bed.
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      • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
        Originally Posted by brandonwcm View Post

        When you say cost of living is high? What are you referring to? The stay? The food? Past batches have been to USA and they say its a fun place. Stay is around 100$ or less per week. I get to work 32 hours with possibility of a second job. I am only unsure about the cost of food but have heard that it is reasonable,

        FYI, I am only here for three months, sorry I forgot to mention so I can't be doing permanent job like a food scientist. I was so confused when most of you told me to get a more professional job haha.

        By the way, here is a list of jobs on offer for this program:
        Work & Travel USA Employer Tables | Infinity Abroad
        Cost of living includes at least food, rent, utilities, insurance, and of course taxes, (which will consume a third to a half of any promised wages). Suffice to say that most Americans who work just one job at minimum wage simply cannot afford to survive here without some form of government assistance.

        That web site is interesting; it lists the precise kinds of jobs for which employers can't find anyone to stay for more than a few weeks or months. And $25/week for rent is pure fantasy. I'm not saying that this particular company is fraudulent, but it certainly does remind me of a major scam that I wrote about last year:

        After over a century, people still believe that the streets here are paved with gold?: d4b
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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by David Beroff View Post

          Cost of living includes at least food, rent, utilities, insurance, and of course taxes, (which will consume a third to a half of any promised wages). Suffice to say that most Americans who work just one job at minimum wage simply cannot afford to survive here without some form of government assistance.

          That web site is interesting; it lists the precise kinds of jobs for which employers can't find anyone to stay for more than a few weeks or months. And $25/week for rent is pure fantasy. I'm not saying that this particular company is fraudulent, but it certainly does remind me of a major scam that I wrote about last year:

          After over a century, people still believe that the streets here are paved with gold?: d4b
          Precisely what I was thinking when I saw that site. The jobs listed in are some of the highest cost of living areas in the US ... in resort and tourist spots.

          ... and then there's the issue of entertainment. The OP said people said it was fun here. Define fun. Do you like to walk in parks and woods and go to public lakes or just sightsee and see cities and monuments or did you have something else in mind for fun? Did you hear there are great nightclubs, concerts, etc? Did you check into the cost of an evening out on the town that includes dinner and movies or a night club? It can run more than you would make in a week, maybe two.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    It sounds like you're living with a group of people coming over, in shared housing.

    If that's the case, it may not be so bad working at McDonalds for 3 months.

    The pay you receive there is going to be around $8 an hour, though.

    That means your weekly paychecks are going to be $250-ish.

    You can find plenty of cheap stuff to do with the other $170 left after rent.

    Figure $50 a week in food, unless you like sit down restaurants, then you could blow through the remainder of your check.

    Places to "chill, and hang out" -- Florida, California, New York City, Washington, Colorado.

    Definitely check the crime rate wherever you plan on living, though.

    The US is in a weird place right now, and not everybody here acts right.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Here's a living wage calculator to see what kind of expenses you'd be up against in different areas. Also be aware that fast food restaurants, grocery stores and places like Walmart only hire part time employees. That gets them off the hook for paying benefits.

    Living Wage Calculator
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I'm not convinced the salary is the driving factor here. The OP does not seem concerned about the salary - and there's no reason to believe that would be his only source of finances while here.

      Maybe he should clarify that - but that's the impression I'm getting.

      a great state where I can hang out and chill.
      Every state has places like that.

      Part of your decision might be based on the time of year (the season) when you will be in the U.S. In winter, some areas are very cold with lots of snow - in summer some are excessively hot and humid. Also, do you want to be along a coastal area or moutains or plains or farmland.

      Sounds like you want to be in or near a major city if you are looking for entertainment attractions. If you want a friendly city with lots to do and with good transportation - check out Atlanta, Georgia. From there you can be in the city, in the country, in the mountains, on the beach or at the lake in two hours or less.
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  • Profile picture of the author brandonwcm
    Thanks for replying you guys. Well I am probably gonna profit from working here a little but the main thing here is to work and TRAVEL, I am still supported my parents. Sorry for beating around the bush and clarify my hobbies so that you can match me up with some nice "regions" or states: simple things like shopping (electronic gadgets, second hand items), jogging/exercising spots (I jog everyday, weight lift 3 times weekly and run marathons), food places (heard there are pizza buffet over there and good western food) and some place peaceful (safe, free from hooligans making a ruckus outside my house). Probably best if they had a theme park and some events in the city like comic con or exhibitions.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by brandonwcm View Post

      Thanks for replying you guys. Well I am probably gonna profit from working here a little but the main thing here is to work and TRAVEL, I am still supported my parents. Sorry for beating around the bush and clarify my hobbies so that you can match me up with some nice "regions" or states: simple things like shopping (electronic gadgets, second hand items), jogging/exercising spots (I jog everyday, weight lift 3 times weekly and run marathons), food places (heard there are pizza buffet over there and good western food) and some place peaceful (safe, free from hooligans making a ruckus outside my house). Probably best if they had a theme park and some events in the city like comic con or exhibitions.
      If you don't gamble, in the late Autumn and Winter, Las Vegas would be very high on my list. Great cheap food, lots of events, plenty of shopping and a Frye's Electronics store. Again, if you don't gamble Las Vegas is really inexpensive. If you do, it's very expensive.


      In the Spring and Summer, Colorado. There's nothing better than Springtime in the Rockies. Where I live the only hooligans are the deer and elk that don't understand what red and green traffic lights mean and think they're "special".
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    • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
      Originally Posted by brandonwcm View Post

      Thanks for replying you guys. Well I am probably gonna profit from working here a little but the main thing here is to work and TRAVEL, I am still supported my parents.
      Ah. Well, that puts a whole different spin on things. If Mommy/Daddy are still supporting you, then why even bother with the facade of working at all? After you subtract taxes and everything else, it's almost not worth it. If you have a limited amount of time in the States, just travel.

      And I'm not being entirely flip. If you aren't tied down to a specific address, (which as Suzanne and I both point out, is likely to be far more expensive than a "typical" American area), then you can travel almost anywhere, and likely spend a lot less money than being in a resort area.

      Originally Posted by brandonwcm View Post

      Sorry for beating around the bush and clarify my hobbies so that you can match me up with some nice "regions" or states: simple things like shopping (electronic gadgets, second hand items), jogging/exercising spots (I jog everyday, weight lift 3 times weekly and run marathons), food places (heard there are pizza buffet over there and good western food) and some place peaceful (safe, free from hooligans making a ruckus outside my house). Probably best if they had a theme park and some events in the city like comic con or exhibitions.
      Most everything you list can be accomplished just about anywhere in the States, except for your last sentence. There's no need to spend your entire time in a major city, (with its much higher prices and higher crime), when you can simply go there for specific events. When I travel personally, for business or pleasure, I'll stay in the suburbs and then commute into the city, usually on public transit. It's far cheaper, safer, and less stressful.

      If you don't need to work, then don't. Use the Rideshare section of Craigslist, go "wherever", meet people, travel, see much more of the country, (it's big), and spend a lot less. While it may sound paradoxical, I'll bet you'll get much more overall value from your trip by not being tied down to a minimum wage job.
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      • Profile picture of the author brandonwcm
        Well for the most part, I mean to say that working and travelling is going to get me some pocket money but it doesn't have to be much since I am still being financially supported by mum and dad. It is a three month work and one month travel to fulfill. The earnings just have to even out all my expenses but I can also profit from this program which is more than possible based on past testimonials. After that, I'd be back here to do a skilled full time job.

        Conversion rate is 1usd to 4.4myr here. The minimum wage for most part time jobs here are terrible! My current part time job while I wait until May to leave only earns me about 8myr per hour and I work for 9 hours doing data entry. Kind of a godsend to at least profit a little after paying settling all the traveling expenses, be it 500usd which is more than 2000myr (around a month and a half salary for unskilled part time jobs back here) even after traveling...
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        • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
          Originally Posted by brandonwcm View Post

          The earnings just have to even out all my expenses but I can also profit from this program which is more than possible based on past testimonials.
          Since you seem to be bent on leaning in the direction of believing these website testimonials over the sound advice from several different people who actually live here, maybe the best thing to do is to show this whole thread to Mommy/Daddy, and discuss it with them, carefully and honestly, especially seeing as they'll be the ones who are going to have to bail you out when you run out of money.
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    Mexico, that's a State right?

    PS. Never heard of a "work and travel" program, sounds dodgy at best?
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    • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
      Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

      Mexico, that's a State right?
      Ironically, I'm going to New Mexico in a few weeks. I hear the exchange rate is wonderful!

      Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

      PS. Never heard of a "work and travel" program, sounds dodgy at best?
      I'm obviously advocating strong caution here, but, in the same breath, I feel that some brokers might be legit. I've noticed for at least two decades, and it's likely been much longer, that the majority of the support staff at many American vacation spots, (e.g., Ocean City, MD), often come from overseas for the summer. I'd always assumed that it was because these kids were more likely than local American kids to want to put in the crazy hours for the stupid low pay. While this is true, (IMHO), I hadn't really considered the whole industry and infrastructure that brings them here, until recently. (See my blog post, above.) Clearly there are many bad players, but hopefully at least some of the brokers run a good ship.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by David Beroff View Post

        Ironically, I'm going to New Mexico in a few weeks. I hear the exchange rate is wonderful!



        I'm obviously advocating strong caution here, but, in the same breath, I feel that some brokers might be legit. I've noticed for at least two decades, and it's likely been much longer, that the majority of the support staff at many American vacation spots, (e.g., Ocean City, MD), often come from overseas for the summer. I'd always assumed that it was because these kids were more likely than local American kids to want to put in the crazy hours for the stupid low pay. While this is true, (IMHO), I hadn't really considered the whole industry and infrastructure that brings them here, until recently. (See my blog post, above.) Clearly there are many bad players, but hopefully at least some of the brokers run a good ship.

        I worked in OC for a summer in my younger days. I was pretty sick of Thrashers Fries by the end of summer. In addition to the low pay, you left out the high rent.
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        • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          In addition to the low pay, you left out the high rent.
          See my blog post, linked from post #17 above.

          What years were you there? I might've even bumped into you back then!
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        • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post


          Also, a wage like $15 may sound like a lot, but that is less than $22620/year(Not counting vacation, taxes, requirements, etc....). That is LESS than $1885 a month, and it may cost perhaps half of that to get an apartment. It is also enough to put up up in the average US hotel for LESS than 18 days. In washington DC in the height of the season, it may only be enough for 4 days. There is ACTUALLY a hotel within a couple blocks of the whitehouse gates that may not even let you stay there for a DAY at that price!

          Steve
          Is Mc Donalds paying $15 an hour?

          I will be attending a work and travel program in America, can anyone recommend me some states to consider and states to avoid? I would like a state that is great for shopping, doesn't necessarily have to be very outdoor with hiking and etc and most importantly great living conditions. I have zero clue where to start and don't even know what to expect.

          I was thinking of Delaware, working in McDonald's. Anyone else beg to differ if given a choice based on your experience living in the USA.
          First you need to realize that every state has shopping, every state has outdoor/hiking, every state has some big city, etc.

          It's where in a state that can make a difference.

          Define great living conditions. For me, I'm happy with a roof over my head, a hot shower, and not hearing sniper fire. lol

          Do you want snow? Or mostly warm year round? Do you want beach access? Or a lake? Or just city?

          Are you set with Micky D's or would you be open to working in a nicer restaurant with an eclectic culinary offering?

          What months are you going to be here exactly? Tourist seasons vary depending on what climate season it is. For example, I was in Nantucket which can be a gold mine for about 3 months during the summer, but after that everyone leaves. Here in Florida right now it is a great time to visit (winter) but come hurricane season a lot of people go back up north.

          Will you be needing somewhere with access to public transportation? This varies too depending on where you go.

          Are you open to sharing an apartment or do you need total privacy? What is your monthly budget exactly that you have to work with should you not have any work?
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          • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            There's plenty of legit work/travel programs. The McDonalds in the tourist town I live in has one.
            Well if this is specifically set up for McDonalds, then I'd suggest OP get the full list of which mcdonalds offer this and where they are located. That will certainly narrow down the list.

            If we know that list we can help OP better decide.

            Not every McDonalds in the US is going to offer this program.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kurt
              Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

              Well if this is specifically set up for McDonalds, then I'd suggest OP get the full list of which mcdonalds offer this and where they are located. That will certainly narrow down the list.

              If we know that list we can help OP better decide.

              Not every McDonalds in the US is going to offer this program.
              I don't know if it is set up specifically for McDs, only that the McDs here uses one.
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          • Profile picture of the author seasoned
            Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

            Is Mc Donalds paying $15 an hour?
            WHO CAN SAY? I once saw a STAR BUCKS offering people over $20, and THAT was over a DECADE ago! At the SAME time, a school district was offering people SOOOOO MUCH money that they took them up on their offer! OH, yu say, WHAT SENSE does THAT make? Well, they had to fly HUNDREDS of miles every week, and stay in a hotel for the week. YEAH, their employer paid for THAT also! LA was willing to pay them to drive, but not NEARLY as much!

            But HEY, I used the HIGHEST price to push my point home.

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              Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

              Who can say? I once saw a Starbucks offering people over $20, and 6 hours a week!
              Fixed it...
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    There's plenty of legit work/travel programs. The McDonalds in the tourist town I live in has one. For a time Africans will be working there...then Japanese...then another nationality. It's seasonal work and the McDs uses them during the summer tourist season. I don't know how the lodging is done.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    It's is probably the J1 Visa program that Brandonwcm is talking about.
    It think it is about a three month Visa. Actually can be a good and fun experience
    for a young adult.

    It allows students/young people to come and do exactly as Brandonwcm is talking about.
    It allows for areas where the labor pool is difficult to attract and have relatively inexpensive labor.

    J1's, as they are often called, usually work at resort areas as chair lift operators,
    in hotel housekeeping or as desk clerks, in cafeterias, fast food, and so on.
    The wages are low, but the housing is often provided for free or low cost.
    Probably dorm style at the larger resorts, or in an apartment sharing with a few other kids.

    For Brandonwcm, I would suggest Silverthorne or Dillon, Colorado because it is a resort
    area and has Factory Outlet stores for shopping... Incredibale, free bus system.

    There is a lot of snow in Winter, and outdoor activities. But, it is Colorado so you have a
    lot of nice, sunny days year round. And the humidity is low, so you don't get the bone
    chilling cold like windy Chicago and high humidity areas. Denver, CO is an hour and a
    half away - if there is not a blizzard - for more shopping and big city night life and art
    and museums...

    That's my 2 cents.
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    • Profile picture of the author brandonwcm
      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

      It's is probably the J1 Visa program that Brandonwcm is talking about.
      It think it is about a three month Visa. Actually can be a good and fun experience
      for a young adult.

      It allows students/young people to come and do exactly as Brandonwcm is talking about.
      It allows for areas where the labor pool is difficult to attract and have relatively inexpensive labor.

      J1's, as they are often called, usually work at resort areas as chair lift operators,
      in hotel housekeeping or as desk clerks, in cafeterias, fast food, and so on.
      The wages are low, but the housing is often provided for free or low cost.
      Probably dorm style at the larger resorts, or in an apartment sharing with a few other kids.

      For Brandonwcm, I would suggest Silverthorne or Dillon, Colorado because it is a resort
      area and has Factory Outlet stores for shopping... Incredibale, free bus system.

      There is a lot of snow in Winter, and outdoor activities. But, it is Colorado so you have a
      lot of nice, sunny days year round. And the humidity is low, so you don't get the bone
      chilling cold like windy Chicago and high humidity areas. Denver, CO is an hour and a
      half away - if there is not a blizzard - for more shopping and big city night life and art
      and museums...

      That's my 2 cents.
      Music to my ears thanks. I am highly considering it when you mentioned factory outlets and outdoor activities. Just hope factory outlet shopping is nothing like what I heard from Black Friday (kicks and punches over discounted items?) haha
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      • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
        Originally Posted by brandonwcm View Post

        Just hope factory outlet shopping is nothing like what I heard from Black Friday (kicks and punches over discounted items?) haha
        While Black Friday violence is unfortunately a very real concern here, it's also limited to a few hours once a year, and can actually be easily avoided, by simply not going to the stores that one morning.
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    In addition to what David said, the factory outlet stores I mentioned are usually very, very slow.
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