I was right, you were wrong

My friend has never smoked tobacco. He has, however, smoked pot for
over 30 years (something I do not condone and have said to his face).

He walks around with an inhaler 24/7 because he has trouble breathing.

I breathe just fine.

I never have, nor will I ever understand, how people can defend activities
that are clearly harmful to you.

But you know what?

It ain't my life so as my grandmother would say, "God bless you, do whatever
you like."

Thom, you know I pretty much always agree with you on anything related to pot. I'm not saying the articles I pointed to are better. My main point is that there isn't a definitive study yet and there needs to be more research to see really what the effects on lungs and other parts of the body are. In the meantime I think it should be legalized as it obviously is less dangerous than alcohol or cigarettes and does have medicinal value too. Legalized, regulated and taxed.

Tim

Look at the way that was worded Pat - he said they were like girls - then followed with this:

so I am assuming that is his description of girls - little muscle tone, pale, passive, angsty ---

I know what he meant....it was just the way he worded it. I couldn't pass it by.

I agree with almost all of that CD.
I'm not a big fan of the 'marijuana lobby' myself.
Here's where it gets tricky with the research.
In the US the only legal cannabis supply that the researchers can use is from the US government.
To get it they have to state what their research will be about and state what their findings will be. Here's an example.
Back in the early 70's Dr. Heath from Tulane U. stated he was going to prove smoking cannabis caused brain damage. He got the cannabis and here's how he proved it.
He secured air tight gas masks to some Rhesus monkeys and pumped the equivalent of 15 Jamaican size joints (his words not mine) smoke into the gas masks for 1/2 hour.
At the end of that time he killed the monkeys and counted the dead brain cells, he also killed his control monkeys and counted their dead brain cells. Surprise, surprise, the monkeys that where deprived of oxygen for 1/2 hour had more dead brain cells:rolleyes:
That's the kind of research the US allows and is why the studies that aren't biased that come from here are more of a survey type.
Ok lets look at the examples again in this thread.
The examples I used have links to the actual studies with the names of those who did the studies. The links that Tim used don't. One is a newspaper article that basically says some scientist's in Canada, no names, nothing. The other is from the National Drug Abuse website and again there is absolutely nothing there to back their claims. In other words we are just suppose to that their word for it and ignore.
Now the recent links that Tim gave do site their sources.
The differences I found was his was from Dec. 2007, mine Aug. 2009.
His tested 339 subjects, mine 1,037.
Now I'm not going to say that his report is wrong and mine is right.
I will say mine is more recent and used a larger group in the study.
I think the logical conclusion to draw from the two reports is that more research is needed.
And doesn't the government and the anti-cannabis groups do exactly the same thing? So your saying it's OK for them to spread their stories, but when someone offers a rebuttal they are automatically labeled unqualified and pro-cannabis?
My take on that is anyone who does their research, uses reliable sources that can be checked, and can support their beliefs weather they are pro or con on the cannabis issue are to be respected.
Just so you know I'm not a big fan of NORML or most of the other national pro-cannabis organizations. I think they are in it mostly for the money. But when they supply information from an outside source whos credentials and credability can be checked then I will use their sources.

Well the original story in high times was a few college buddies would blaze together and 4:20 was the time when they where able to get together

Thanks for insinuating I'm not responsible.
After 42 years of working plus raising a family and caring for a dying mother, father, and wife, it's a pleasant break to not be responsible any more.