by Zodiax
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I made a few posts on Tai Lopez's instagram

1. I said there are those who pretend to be rich

2. Than I made a smart arse comment on one of his 'motivational' posts.

Wake up and find that my comments don't show up in my feed and that I am blocked.

I guess I am broke and negative because Tai can't handle criticism.

Why do 'self-made millionaires' and the like want their ego stroked constantly, and try to eliminate all those who don't worship them.

Maybe I am programmed for failure or something from looking at things from a different angle than the average person who sees Tai.

I see flaws and some measure of deceit, even though he puts out some good 'motivational' stuff from time to time.

Maybe I am a bit envious, but why am I 'envious' of Tai and not envious of Bill Gates or Brian Tracy.

Idk.
  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by Zodiax View Post

    I made a few posts on Tai Lopez's instagram

    1. I said there are those who pretend to be rich

    2. Than I made a smart arse comment on one of his 'motivational' posts.

    Wake up and find that my comments don't show up in my feed.

    I guess I am broke and negative because Tai can't handle criticism.

    Or somebody else reported the post. Or a Mod just saw it, and didn't like it.
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    Geez, all those Youtube commercials are annoying.

    I don't even search for IM stuff on Youtube yet there he is, commercial after commercial... That guy must have some BIG money to be blowing through so many ads. I guess he targets every niche on Youtube.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Geez, all those Youtube commercials are annoying.

      I don't even search for IM stuff on Youtube yet there he is, commercial after commercial... That guy must have some BIG money to be blowing through so many ads. I guess he targets every niche on Youtube.
      I keep getting ads for black tie marketing.

      Dumb asses.
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  • Profile picture of the author mkii
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    Originally Posted by Zodiax View Post

    I made a few posts on Tai Lopez's instagram

    1. I said there are those who pretend to be rich

    2. Than I made a smart arse comment on one of his 'motivational' posts.

    Wake up and find that my comments don't show up in my feed and that I am blocked.

    I guess I am broke and negative because Tai can't handle criticism.

    Why do 'self-made millionaires' and the like want their ego stroked constantly, and try to eliminate all those who don't worship them.

    Maybe I am programmed for failure or something from looking at things from a different angle than the average person who sees Tai.

    I see flaws and some measure of deceit, even though he puts out some good 'motivational' stuff from time to time.

    Maybe I am a bit envious, but why am I 'envious' of Tai and not envious of Bill Gates or Brian Tracy.

    Idk.
    Step 1: To become financially successful or become more successful. Ask all of your friends for their opinion on your ideas or what you do. Remember, this is an experiment so don't take any of their opinions personally.

    Step 2: Take each negative friend, delete them out of your phone, unfriend them on Facebook, then never talk to them. If you feel like you need more fiends after this exercise, you probably do. I don't talk to 90% of my old friends. Simply put, they never amounted to anything and they don't work hard, yet they complain about everything. Then they compare my projects to the work of billion dollar companies and tell me my work sucks. It's kind of annoying. It wastes my time and then I'm suppose to listen to them complain about how their job sucks.

    You went onto the site of a very successful entrepreneur and made a fool out of yourself. You deserved to get banned, you don't know jack squat compared to Tai Lopez.

    You're broke because you're wasting your time criticizing a successful person.

    Whether you agree or not with the content, learn what you can and move on. Their post is just part of their business. You're insulting their successful business... Then came here to complain that you didn't like the outcome... Yes, you're negative. What you should have done is observed how a successful person, is being effective at motivating people to achieve their goals, and learned from it.

    What you did is kind of like telling Bill Gates that Windows sucks. Yeah it only made the guy filthy rich. Microsoft is a suck factory. Mhmm.

    I hope you can see how silly what you did is.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
      Originally Posted by mkii View Post

      Step 1: To become financially successful or become more successful. Ask all of your friends for their opinion on your ideas or what you do. Remember, this is an experiment so don't take any of their opinions personally.

      Step 2: Take each negative friend, delete them out of your phone, unfriend them on Facebook, then never talk to them. If you feel like you need more fiends after this exercise, you probably do. I don't talk to 90% of my old friends. Simply put, they never amounted to anything and they don't work hard, yet they complain about everything. Then they compare my projects to the work of billion dollar companies and tell me my work sucks. It's kind of annoying. It wastes my time and then I'm suppose to listen to them complain about how their job sucks.

      You went onto the site of a very successful entrepreneur and made a fool out of yourself. You deserved to get banned, you don't know jack squat compared to Tai Lopez.

      You're broke because you're wasting your time criticizing a successful person.

      Whether you agree or not with the content, learn what you can and move on. Their post is just part of their business. You're insulting their successful business...

      This would be like you telling Bill Gates that Windows sucks. Yeah it only made the guy filthy rich. Microsoft is a suck factory. Mhmm.

      I hope you can see how silly what you did is.
      looooool.

      This made me chuckle a bit.

      Looks like Tai has another mindless groupie.

      The sad reality is that you probably make next to no money, and live in your own head of fantasy and martyr-ism.

      Because someone didn't sing your praises you acted like a child and decided not to talk to them.

      Very mature.
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      • Profile picture of the author mkii
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        Originally Posted by Zodiax View Post

        looooool.

        This made me chuckle a bit.

        Looks like Tai has another mindless groupie.

        The sad reality is that you probably make next to no money, and live in your own head of fantasy and martyr-ism.

        Because someone didn't sing your praises you acted like a child and decided not to talk to them.

        Very mature.
        I actually had to research the guy.

        But Ok...

        Nice talking with you.

        I hope any observer to this conversation can see how big of a waste of time it is trying to interact with negative people.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I wouldn't go as far as the person above me but don't necessarily disagree.

      You can make accusations or insinuations on your own acct or platform but that wasn't the case. It sounds like you were looking for attention. What did you expect to happen?

      This isn't someone I follow or pay any attention to - but I certainly wouldn't go to his sites and try to bait him. What's the point?

      Why do 'self-made millionaires' and the like want their ego stroked constantly, and try to eliminate all those who don't worship them.
      Why do you care? Just ignore self-appointed gurus and do your own thing. No one tried to eliminate you - you attacked and they responded by removing your comments.
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    • Profile picture of the author perryny
      Originally Posted by mkii View Post

      Step 1: To become financially successful or become more successful. Ask all of your friends for their opinion on your ideas or what you do. Remember, this is an experiment so don't take any of their opinions personally.

      Step 2: Take each negative friend, delete them out of your phone, unfriend them on Facebook, then never talk to them. If you feel like you need more fiends after this exercise, you probably do. I don't talk to 90% of my old friends. Simply put, they never amounted to anything and they don't work hard, yet they complain about everything. Then they compare my projects to the work of billion dollar companies and tell me my work sucks. It's kind of annoying. It wastes my time and then I'm suppose to listen to them complain about how their job sucks.

      You went onto the site of a very successful entrepreneur and made a fool out of yourself. You deserved to get banned, you don't know jack squat compared to Tai Lopez.

      You're broke because you're wasting your time criticizing a successful person.

      Whether you agree or not with the content, learn what you can and move on. Their post is just part of their business. You're insulting their successful business... Then came here to complain that you didn't like the outcome... Yes, you're negative. What you should have done is observed how a successful person, is being effective at motivating people to achieve their goals, and learned from it.

      What you did is kind of like telling Bill Gates that Windows sucks. Yeah it only made the guy filthy rich. Microsoft is a suck factory. Mhmm.

      I hope you can see how silly what you did is.
      Curious... if a friend of yours gave you this advice, does this land them in the 90% who get banned from your life?
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      • Profile picture of the author mkii
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        Originally Posted by perryny View Post

        Curious... if a friend of yours gave you this advice, does this land them in the 90% who get banned from your life?
        Depends what you want out of life I guess? Right?

        People who surround themselves with successful people generally don't have the problem of being broke and I've personally never met a self made millionaire that was negative. If you're doing your own thing, you're headed down the road less followed, it's going to be harder then just doing what everybody else does. So do you think the person who lacks confidence and doubts themselves will ever do it? What about if they have a bunch of road blocks? Like people telling them things the don't want to hear...

        Look. It's a choice you make. There's consequences to every decision you make, good and bad. If you want to become a self made millionaire, you're going to have a pretty limited social life as it is. 90% of what you do will be for your business. If that's not what you want out of life, then plan accordingly. What you do with your time will be different. Obviously you can still achieve your financial goals, it will just take longer, and there's nothing wrong with achieving your goals slowly.

        And no. The person who gave me that advice, I have their autograph on the wall of my office.
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        • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
          Originally Posted by mkii View Post

          Depends what you want out of life I guess? Right?

          People who surround themselves with successful people generally don't have the problem of being broke and I've personally never met a self made millionaire that was negative. If you're doing your own thing, you're headed down the road less followed, it's going to be harder then just doing what everybody else does. So do you think the person who lacks confidence and doubts themselves will ever do it? What about if they have a bunch of road blocks? Like people telling them things the don't want to hear...

          Look. It's a choice you make. There's consequences to every decision you make, good and bad. If you want to become a self made millionaire, you're going to have a pretty limited social life as it is. 90% of what you do will be for your business. If that's not what you want out of life, then plan accordingly. What you do with your time will be different. Obviously you can still achieve your financial goals, it will just take longer, and there's nothing wrong with achieving your goals slowly.

          And no. The person who gave me that advice, I have their autograph on the wall of my office.
          Well that is a good way of looking at things,

          But it's good not to idolize someone because people can fool you. Anyone can boast and pretend to be someone special.

          Think about that...
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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Disclaimer ~ I am on mind messing up meds

            Thought I'd get that out of my way before I asked my question, lol!

            Okay, mkii, you were talking about self-made millionaires so my question to you is, if I buy a lotto ticket and win 600 million, am I now a self-made millionaire? I, myself, took action to get me my millionaire status all by myself by purchasing the ticket.

            So am I a self-made millionaire?


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            • Profile picture of the author mkii
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              Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

              Disclaimer ~ I am on mind messing up meds

              Thought I'd get that out of my way before I asked my question, lol!

              Okay, mkii, you were talking about self-made millionaires so my question to you is, if I buy a lotto ticket and win 600 million, am I now a self-made millionaire? I, myself, took action to get me my millionaire status all by myself by purchasing the ticket.

              So am I a self-made millionaire?


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              Lottery tickets are a waste of money. There's a few cases where they mathematically make sense to play, and in those rare cases I'll buy 20$ worth and hope I don't win. My life would be ruined if I won the lottery. Even if I spent every penny of it intelligently, there's a concept in business that sometimes growth can occur unnaturally and it generally doesn't work out. It does depend on the source of the growth, for example, social media sites: the growth came from demand, not a rapid influx of capital.

              And no winning the lottery does not make you a self-made millionaire. At least not in my mind.
              Originally Posted by Zodiax View Post

              Well that is a good way of looking at things,

              But it's good not to idolize someone because people can fool you. Anyone can boast and pretend to be someone special.

              Think about that...
              What if the person you idolize is you? Or your perception of yourself?

              Ask yourself: Where am I right now? What do I want out of life? How can I achieve that? What kind of person do I have to become do make that vision of myself materialize as reality? Idolize the person you want to be and surround yourself with the people who want to help you achieve that.

              Personally, I needed a day off, tomorrow is a holiday, so I'm here. I'm not going to say how much I make but I am headed in the right direction as far as achieving my goals.

              There definitely is an observable pattern of people who become successful, I've seen it myself over and over.

              Do you have any questions?
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              • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                Originally Posted by mkii View Post

                Lottery tickets are a waste of money. There's a few cases where they mathematically make sense to play, and in those rare cases I'll buy 20$ worth and hope I don't win. My life would be ruined if I won the lottery. Even if I spent every penny of it intelligently, there's a concept in business that sometimes growth can occur unnaturally and it generally doesn't work out. It does depend on the source of the growth, for example, social media sites: the growth came from demand, not a rapid influx of capital.

                And no winning the lottery does not make you a self-made millionaire. At least not in my mind.
                I don't play the lotto myself, lol!

                But if you win the lottery and become a millionaire, then what classification of a millionaire are you if not self-made?

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                • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                  Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                  But if you win the lottery and become a millionaire, then what classification of a millionaire are you if not self-made?
                  I think as most people would understand it, a "self-made" Millionaire would be someone who worked for their success. I don't think anyone would consider a lottery winner as being "self-made."

                  Rather, they would think of them as they are: Someone who won their money.
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                  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                    I think as most people would understand it, a "self-made" Millionaire would be someone who worked for their success. I don't think anyone would consider a lottery winner as being "self-made."

                    Rather, they would think of them as they are: Someone who won their money.

                    I knew that, lol!

                    You know that I know that.

                    I was just tryin' to have some fun and play with (mickey) mkii until my grandkiddies get here.


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                    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                      Lol. Sorry. Being a bit dense today.

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                      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                        Lol. Sorry. Being a bit dense today.

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                        • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
                          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                          Sometimes my genius bleeds through from thread to thread like the paint of a master artist through a Satin canvas.
                          I see what you did there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    mkii, this is a case where you are demonstrably ignoring your own advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

      mkii, this is a case where you are demonstrably ignoring your own advice.
      I thought this was the steak thread for a minute and I was going to say "I see what you did there."
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
        Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

        I thought this was the steak thread for a minute and I was going to say "I see what you did there."
        Sometimes my genius bleeds through from thread to thread like the paint of a master artist through a Satin canvas.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          Sometimes my genius bleeds through from thread to thread like the paint of a master artist through a Satin canvas.
          That sounds like something I would say.

          That was the worst insult I could think of.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            That sounds like something I would say.

            That was the worst insult I could think of.
            I thought of you as I wrote it. My goal was to approach your level of ego, but still sound intelligent.
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      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

      mkii, this is a case where you are demonstrably ignoring your own advice.

      Spoil Sport!!


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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Labeling people positive or negative is little more than a trite soundbite for the self-help industry. Life's a bit more nuanced than that, and selecting (or deleting) friends on the basis of their "success" is ridiculously one-dimensional.

        Personally, I prefer to celebrate the diversity of character that I find in those with whom I choose to spend time.

        And if I want business advice, I'll speak to someone qualified. That's not what friends are for.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          Labeling people positive or negative is little more than a trite soundbite for the self-help industry. Life's a bit more nuanced than that, and selecting (or deleting) friends on the basis of their "success" is ridiculously one-dimensional.

          Personally, I prefer to celebrate the diversity of character that I find in those with whom I choose to spend time.

          And if I want business advice, I'll speak to someone qualified. That's not what friends are for.
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          I was wondering if someone was going to say it.

          Yup. One of the least important things about whether someone is my friend or not is if they are wealthy, or can help me in business. In fact, I don't remember ever thinking that way, even when it would have been profitable.

          I have a few friends that are wealthier than I am, and several that are less so....I'm guessing. It just never comes up.

          The only exception to that is if they are poor and;
          See me as a source of money.
          Blame others for their lack of achievement. I have a few friends with little ambition. But they don't blame others for what they have in life.
          Have the attitude that, "It must be nice" or, "Lucky you", when they see me. This is why none of my friends are also related.

          Is the person trustworthy? Are they a good parent? Are they kind to people they don't have to be kind to? Do they accept responsibility for their actions?

          That's what my friend needs to be like. Money doesn't enter into it.

          And..."Positive thinking" is just as delusional as "negative thinking"...just as wrong, leading to just as many mistakes.


          Added later; I actually know many multi-millionaire business people. A few are real friends. None of them are the kind of people that base their friendships on what you can do for them, or how much money you have.

          Quality people never compare paychecks. At least, that's my thinking.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
            Great post. Thanks Claude.
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            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            And..."Positive thinking" is just as delusional as "negative thinking"...just as wrong, leading to just as many mistakes.
            I think it really depends on your interpretation/definition of "Positive Thinking." For me that means a person who looks on the positive side of life - even when (or especially) things aren't working out in their lives (or the lives of their friends).

            True "Positive Thinking" (for me) isn't living in denial of reality, it's seeing the positive side of life. And generally being a "Positive Person."

            (JMO.)
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            • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
              It's one thing to be genuinely successful. There are many people who are successful and who I look up to.

              It's another thing stuff a wad of cash under someone's nose and claim you have the secret to riches, while filming yourself in a garage with a lambogini pitching the 'good life'.

              I mean, is it truly negative and toxic to question someone like that?
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              • Profile picture of the author Cali16
                Originally Posted by Zodiax View Post

                I mean, is it truly negative and toxic to question someone like that?
                It's negative and self-defeating (which is toxic in its own right) to spend an ounce of your energy dwelling on it, yes. And that's exactly what you seem to be doing, when your time would be much better spent elsewhere.

                Strive to learn from and emulate the people you do respect, and ignore the ones you don't. Or not. But posting negative / snarky comments on someone's website or forum because you don't respect them certainly isn't going to get you any closer to your goals.
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                • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
                  Originally Posted by mkii View Post


                  I hope any observer to this conversation can see how big of a waste of time it is trying to interact with negative people.
                  It's not always possible to just block those who may have negative thoughts toward your business ideals.

                  For example, my brother (lol).

                  So I know my brother has best intentions for me, but I also know he is in disbelief of things I do and how I handle them.

                  He's a giant worry wart. No matter what the conversation - especially regarding my discussion of financial goals and how I plan to get there - he likes to just start poking every possible hole in what I'm doing and gets me all strung out.

                  But he's my brother so I can't just completely cut him out of my life. Best I can do is avoid certain topics, and go back in my head after a discussion with him and edit out what I consider negative commentary.

                  I did give him a TIME OUT recently. He was in a close enough vicinity to visit with him during my birthday. He'd even bought concert tickets for us to see something. I was very busy with work at the time, and I could feel he was pushing to extend concert time to even more than that and I could sense it was going to turn into several days of time with him - which some would have been fine but it always turns into that hole poking thing - which I was just not prepared for at the time.

                  He is family so I can't just kick him to the curb - especially as there are times he has pulled through for me. But I can choose where, when, how much to engage with him and I can choose to go back and edit anything I view as negative after the fact.

                  I chose not to see him. He will be back though and best I can do is plan to be prepared.

                  Now I will agree there are some people you do realize need total removal. But I don't believe that number would be 90% for me. Easier to compartmentalize everyone into their own rooms in my head and maybe just limit what goes into those rooms.

                  Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post


                  Personally, I prefer to celebrate the diversity of character that I find in those with whom I choose to spend time.

                  And if I want business advice, I'll speak to someone qualified. That's not what friends are for.
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                  I agree with this.

                  My past relationship I was in was trying to manage who I was visiting when he didn't think the person I was conversing with was a good idea. He was worried that I was being judged for hanging around certain crowds - and if this didn't fit well with what he thought was his reputation he'd persuade me to back away from them. This was hard for me in the relationship. I understand the "couples" thing but at the same time I felt like I was giving up a piece of myself when I conformed.

                  There's a fine line I think where the birds of a feather kicks in.

                  Removing negativity is important. But I think in a lot of cases it's possible to avoid that part of someone if you are with them for something else.

                  As mentioned above - keep business separate or don't discuss those things with those close to you who can't be supportive of that aspect.

                  Now if you're in a position of 90% of what is coming out of someone else begins to feel like negativity and judgment then those people you do need to really cut out. I got this from my own parents (which is where I see my own brother got some from). I realized I needed to cut them out well over 20 years ago. I made a decision in my mind that I just wanted them to live out their lives and be happy and I wasn't going to bother them unless totally necessary.

                  Upon my fathers death bed I was for the first time able to have some actual quality time with him as I think he finally realized there were things we could discuss that didn't have to be all about them grinding on me and trying to enforce what they thought I should be doing. Sad it took that to happen - but I am grateful it finally did.

                  Mom on the other hand is a completely different story at this point. With her full blown dementia there are no more open windows or cracks even to get into and find a common ground of appreciation.

                  Today I'm bringing some flowers over to the home she's in, and will spend maybe 10 minutes there just to make sure she is taken care of as that is about all I can handle.

                  It's a double edged sword. On the one hand I want to iron out some old things with her and on the other hand I know that never would work even if she were in her right mind. Even though there are no logical conversations to be had at this point, I begin to revisit the judgements and bad feelings I had from her if I'm in the room to long. Even though she is not here, she still is physically and that is very frustrating. Part of me has already mourned her death and yet I almost prefer to remember her as what she actually is now. Incoherent. lol

                  Anyway, this thread was all about me, right?



                  Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                  I thought of you as I wrote it. My goal was to approach your level of ego, but still sound intelligent.
                  I am so out of my initial thought process that I don't even know why the heck I quoted you now. lol

                  EDIT: Oh yes, I keep seeing your new pic and thinking Princess is posting. lol
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                  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                    Jill -

                    A couple things you said above resonate loudly with me. I visited my Mother last week...it's a 2+ hr drive each way and I don't go often.

                    We had a rocky relationship and though she knows who I am now, I sometimes think it's sad it's too late to "connect". But it was always too late. We are so different our values and goals have little in common - so regret is just wasted mental exercise. I always said my Mother and I got along best with about 600 miles between us. It was true.

                    I also left a man who had control issues. He had goals and ambitions - and to his credit he has accomplished every one of them. But when my choice of friends and my conversations and ideas/ambitions needed to be molded to fit his goals....I had to take a permanent leave of absence... In the end, he understood and we were able to stay friends. That was important as it's where we started to begin with.

                    selecting (or deleting) friends on the basis of their "success" is ridiculously one-dimensional.
                    I'd say it's ridiculously egotistical. I don't need friends who tell me I'm right or I'm useful or I'm...anything. I need friends who encourage me to think, entertain me with their different outlook, make me laugh with their silliness...

                    No matter what the conversation - especially regarding my discussion of financial goals and how I plan to get there..
                    If you know he picks nits - don't make the conversation about your goals and plans - talk about something else. I think sometimes we want to share our dreams and goals with those close to us - yet it may not be the wisest thing to do.
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                      Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

                      It's not always possible to just block those who may have negative thoughts toward your business ideals.

                      For example, my brother (lol).

                      So I know my brother has best intentions for me, but I also know he is in disbelief of things I do and how I handle them.

                      He's a giant worry wart. No matter what the conversation - especially regarding my discussion of financial goals and how I plan to get there - he likes to just start poking every possible hole in what I'm doing and gets me all strung out.

                      But he's my brother so I can't just completely cut him out of my life. Best I can do is avoid certain topics, and go back in my head after a discussion with him and edit out what I consider negative commentary.

                      I did give him a TIME OUT recently. He was in a close enough vicinity to visit with him during my birthday. He'd even bought concert tickets for us to see something. I was very busy with work at the time, and I could feel he was pushing to extend concert time to even more than that and I could sense it was going to turn into several days of time with him - which some would have been fine but it always turns into that hole poking thing - which I was just not prepared for at the time.

                      He is family so I can't just kick him to the curb - especially as there are times he has pulled through for me. But I can choose where, when, how much to engage with him and I can choose to go back and edit anything I view as negative after the fact.

                      I chose not to see him. He will be back though and best I can do is plan to be prepared.

                      Now I will agree there are some people you do realize need total removal. But I don't believe that number would be 90% for me. Easier to compartmentalize everyone into their own rooms in my head and maybe just limit what goes into those rooms.
                      Oh no. You could never speak to that person again.

                      It's a choice you make.

                      Maybe I had a lot of negative friends, but I slowly stopped talking to the worst offenders over time. Then when I was struggling with my business, I had other friends, which I didn't think were holding me back, start asking things of me that were counterproductive to my goals.

                      Wait so, I'm so I'm suppose to not achieve my goals so you can achieve yours? I never asked anything of them, why were they asking things of me? I'm a nice person and I got tired of being taken advantage of so I just stopped talking to them.

                      I personally had to make the choice, that I wanted to have an impact on the world, and in order to do that, I was going to have to stop being nice and giving my time away to certain people. I had my make my success about me.

                      To be clear about this: most my friends today are successful people, some of them are professional artists, some of them own small businesses, some of them are just fun people who have a great outlook on life.

                      I'm 100% confident, that if I was having a problem with my business and had to make a difficult decision, I could ask any of them what their opinion on the matter was, and we could have a reasonable conversation about it. I'm not suggesting that I would ever expect anything from them, but I needed something, I am sure they would help me move towards my goals and not away.

                      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                      I'd say it's ridiculously egotistical. I don't need friends who tell me I'm right or I'm useful or I'm...anything. I need friends who encourage me to think, entertain me with their different outlook, make me laugh with their silliness...
                      Yeah, it's egotistical for sure. When did having an ego become a problem? If you want to achieve more then most people, doesn't that mean that you're egotistical? You're not trying to be successful or become more successful for somebody else. You're doing it for you.

                      The process of deciding to actually become successful generally starts with thinking about where you are and where you want to go, then making decisions about how you are going to get there. For me personally, I had a lot of barriers that were in the way, and I hate to say it, but I'm glad I don't talk to those people anymore. The friendships were borderline abusive at times. I didn't need those people back then and I certainly don't need them now.
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                        Originally Posted by mkii View Post

                        When did having an ego become a problem?
                        Most of the time.
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                          Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

                          Most of the time.
                          A problem for who?

                          Are you sure you're not confusing being egotistical with being an egomaniac? I would agree that most of the time it's not right to be an egomaniac.

                          If you want to be more successful than most people you are egotistical.

                          2. selfishness; self-centeredness; egoism.
                          I could have been a manager at a gas station, but I'm selfish. I wanted more out of life and I understand that money is just a vehicle to those things. In order to get obtain those things, I have to be self-centered to a certain degree.

                          3. indifferent to the well-being of others; selfish
                          To a certain extent, yes. Nothing personal.
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                            Originally Posted by mkii View Post

                            To a certain extent, yes. Nothing personal.
                            I've taken no offence from your posts.

                            I'm just wondering what will happen if you don't achieve everything you want.

                            Will you consider yourself to be a failure, or will you be more philosophical about it? Along the lines of, "Well, I gave it my best shot but it just wasn't to be, and I'm happy with what I did achieve though".

                            Just curious.
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                              Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

                              I've taken no offence from your posts.

                              I'm just wondering what will happen if you don't achieve everything you want.

                              Will you consider yourself to be a failure, or will you be more philosophical about it? Along the lines of, "Well, I gave it my best shot but it just wasn't to be, and I'm happy with what I did achieve though".

                              Just curious.
                              If you're considering a question like that then you already have the wrong attitude in my opinion. I'm never "retiring" I will continue to push myself until I die. So if something doesn't work out (happens all the time) I'll just try something else. So if I'm 106 years old and I just couldn't figure it out and my heart fails, oh well. At least I employed people and helped them potentially get what they wanted.

                              Which is maybe something you're not considering here. Nothing really works in business if it's 100% about you. If my business doesn't deliver a high quality product that does something for other people, then it will never make money. The product is an analog of my self-centeredness and perfectionism. With that said, is egotism an attractive quality as a entrepreneur: yes it is.

                              So to answer your question directly:

                              Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

                              I'm just wondering what will happen if you don't achieve everything you want.
                              I've never considered it. Business and success aren't binary, they're granular. It doesn't really matter how long it takes. So if I haven't achieved everything I want, I'll just keep trying.

                              If I had answered that question when I was 25 years old I would still be working at a mediocre job earning a normal wage. Today I'm looking at a business that is experiencing growth from multiple sources and I'm relentlessly trying to expand it. The probability of my achieving my goals is only trending towards completion, not away.
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                                Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                                Jill -

                                A couple things you said above resonate loudly with me. I visited my Mother last week...it's a 2+ hr drive each way and I don't go often.

                                We had a rocky relationship and though she knows who I am now, I sometimes think it's sad it's too late to "connect". But it was always too late. We are so different our values and goals have little in common - so regret is just wasted mental exercise. I always said my Mother and I got along best with about 600 miles between us. It was true.
                                LOL, I kept well over 1k. And the last few years being on an island stuck out to sea really made it too much of a PITA to visit anyone, let alone my parents.


                                I also left a man who had control issues. He had goals and ambitions - and to his credit he has accomplished every one of them. But when my choice of friends and my conversations and ideas/ambitions needed to be molded to fit his goals....I had to take a permanent leave of absence... In the end, he understood and we were able to stay friends. That was important as it's where we started to begin with.
                                I think eventually I'll wind up with a friendship.

                                Only difference here is there wasn't enough drive going behind him. I was the drive. Now that I'm gone I don't see him ever going forward, only maintaining where he is.



                                I'd say it's ridiculously egotistical. I don't need friends who tell me I'm right or I'm useful or I'm...anything. I need friends who encourage me to think, entertain me with their different outlook, make me laugh with their silliness...
                                Me too. I would like it if one of them understood more of what I do as I'd do something with them in a heartbeat.

                                Currently I settle for bits and pieces here and there - and you people. lol



                                If you know he picks nits -
                                Is this intentional? I always heard/said nit picks.
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                            Originally Posted by mkii View Post

                            Are you sure you're not confusing being egotistical with being an egomaniac?
                            You might want to reconsider your idea of what egotistical actually means...

                            Straight from the dictionary: "excessively conceited or absorbed in oneself; self-centered."
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                              Is this intentional?
                              Yep - intentional.

                              I will continue to push myself until I die.
                              Not me - there are flowers to smell and clouds to watch and dogs to play with. There are people to meet and trails to explore. So much to do that is not involved with getting ahead or making more money...to each his/her own.
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              Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

              Great post. Thanks Claude.
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              I think it really depends on your interpretation/definition of "Positive Thinking." For me that means a person who looks on the positive side of life - even when (or especially) things aren't working out in their lives (or the lives of their friends).

              True "Positive Thinking" (for me) isn't living in denial of reality, it's seeing the positive side of life. And generally being a "Positive Person."

              (JMO.)

              Jonathan; The closest thing I have to positive thinking is when something bad happens, and I go into "Big picture mode".

              For example, a good friend dies. After an hour or two, I usually snap out of any morbid feelings. Even when my parents died. It's like, "OK, that happened.What's the next step?"

              It's why I also don't get excited about any good news. I know that over a period of years, all these things are going to happen....so, "OK, that happened today. Now that's out of the way".

              I was talking to my son about how to react to very bad news. It had some of this in it, "Over the next 20 years, probably three close friends will die, the US will suffer another crash, I'll die, You'll have a few monetary windfalls, you'll have 15 days that will be memorable, and you'll meet 10 people that excite you. We just don't know what days those things will happen."

              And that's how I think.
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                And that's how I think.
                Well we're all different. (And that's a good thing.)

                Cheers,
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      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

      mkii, this is a case where you are demonstrably ignoring your own advice.
      It's called persistence. Whatever. I guess I'll go do something else then.
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