How to be a Complete Idiot

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Georgia Man Blows Own Leg Off While Shooting at Lawnmower Filled With Tannerite - US News

And he's extremely lucky that it wasn't his head.

Note: The video doesn't show anything actually graphic but the incident was recorded and the moment this person realized how incredibly stupid what they did was, is immortalized forever.
  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    lol ... too funny.
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      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      lol ... too funny.
      "There's no loophole at all. It's called the law," he said. "Tannerite is specifically allowed by law and always has been. You can bet that if Tannerite was dangerous, it would have been restricted 20 years ago."
      -Dan Tanner, CEO of Oregon-based Tannerite Sports

      http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...gets/16188925/

      I love how these people think. Nothing dangerous about a bomb. Nope. Nothing at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Christopher Fox
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      lol ... too funny.
      The guy obviously did something really, really stupid. Why you think it is funny when someone blows of their leg is beyond me. I feel bad for the guy - not laugh at him and think it is funny.

      You have perverted sense of humor ...
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Christopher Fox View Post

        The guy obviously did something really, really stupid. Why you think it is funny when someone blows of their leg is beyond me. I feel bad for the guy - not laugh at him and think it is funny.

        You have perverted sense of humor ...
        Yep. I do. I think stupidity is funny.
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        • Profile picture of the author Christopher Fox
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Yep. I do. I think stupidity is funny.
          I know. You already said that. And I think it is perverted to laugh at people getting their legs blown off. Perverted that you take such pleasure in the misery of others ...
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by Christopher Fox View Post

            I know. You already said that. And I think it is perverted to laugh at people getting their legs blown off. Perverted that you take such pleasure in the misery of others ...
            I know ... you already said that. And I do really care what you think. No. Really. Seriously. [yawn]
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            Originally Posted by Christopher Fox View Post

            I know. You already said that. And I think it is perverted to laugh at people getting their legs blown off. Perverted that you take such pleasure in the misery of others ...
            It's not funny the guy blew his own leg off.

            It's funny the guy was that stupid to begin with.

            To be fair about it, for that degree of extreme stupidity, the guy now has a permanent reminder that semi automatic assault rifles (stupid) + firing guns wildly (very stupid and dangerous to others) + large amounts of explosives (insanely stupid) + detonating metal objects (usually stupid) * standing very close to an explosion (massively stupid) = I'm a complete idiot who's lucky to be alive.

            People usually recover from losing a leg below the knee, they can do amazing things with prosthetic legs now.

            How is that not funny? He unintentionally blew himself up and walked away. Think of it like a tattoo, for complete yahoos.

            Were not talking about a war veteran here. He did it to himself.

            If he died, it would be sad and not funny. You don't need both your legs. He'll be fine.

            Did you ever see the movie Idiocracy? It's the greatest prophecy of all time. The movie was created in 2006 and now we have popular youtube channels where people get kicked in the balls, most of the population consumes candy water instead of regular water, many people can not survive without fast food, people in certain states are legally allowed to purchase explosives and blow themselves up, and we have a former WWF star running for president (not a political discussion, that's a fact.)

            Mike Judge is a prophet.
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            • Profile picture of the author onSubie
              Originally Posted by mkii View Post

              If he died, it would be sad and not funny. You don't need both your legs. He'll be fine.

              I'm just not the kind of person to say if he died it would still be funny and he would win a 'Darwin Award'.

              Or maybe I am.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
              Originally Posted by mkii View Post

              You don't need both your legs. He'll be fine.
              ROFL...now thats funny... A leg lost? big problem? Nah.....no big deal.

              Just be glad posting silly stuff doesn't make you blow off a leg or you'd have one too.....but hey a leg here or there lost.....

              Who cares? suck it up its fine. it's like a wisdom tooth. Get that sucka off me
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              • Profile picture of the author mkii
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                Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                ROFL...now thats funny... A leg lost? big problem? Nah.....no big deal.

                Just be glad posting silly stuff doesn't make you blow off a leg or you'd have one too.....but hey a leg here or there lost.....

                Who cares? suck it up its fine. it's like a wisdom tooth. Get that sucka off me
                It's a life choice, some people do drugs and die to drug over dose, some people do skydiving the die to a gravity overdose, and that guy has a battle scar from a near death stupidity overdose.
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                • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                  Originally Posted by mkii View Post

                  It's a life choice, some people do drugs and die to drug over dose, some people do skydiving the die to a gravity overdose,.
                  Not sure how you think that means losing a leg is fine and you don't need it but apparently you think it does so go with that.
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                  • Profile picture of the author mkii
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                    Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                    Not sure how you think that means losing a leg is fine and you don't need it but apparently you think it does so go with that.
                    Oh I don't think that at all. I think:

                    Originally Posted by perryny View Post

                    Losing a leg is the very LEAST that should be expected when pulling the stunt he did. He's incredibly lucky to be alive.
                    If the trajectory of that piece of shrapnel was 1 degree upwards, he would have been ripped in half. 2 degrees it would have been his head. He basically created a gigantic gun that shoots random directions and then stood next to it when he fired it.

                    So if you were about to detonate a bomb next to yourself and losing a body part was not really an option, which body part would you prefer to lose? Probably a leg, right? I mean you'd probably rather take risks like "Hmm should I point more links at this website?" because if that backfires the only real health issue that could arise would stress related. Which I don't have hair anymore from doing SEO. Life choice I made, oh well.

                    So that incident happened. I didn't tell the guy to do it, I would never recommend that. Don't make this about me. I'm not saying he deserved that, but it happened. If I could have stopped it, I would have.

                    Things like this build character, it's something to talk about with his bar buddies or something to talk about on a first date. "Yeah I'm the famous 'I blew my leg off guy.' "

                    That blows away any of my life stories "This one time I bought an expired domain, it had lots of links, but I realized I didn't any content for that niche, so I sat there and wrote articles 14 hours a day for a month. Then I put a bunch of affiliate links to Azon on it."
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Yep. I do. I think stupidity is funny.
          Gotta agree with Fox. Nothing funny about it. Thats just being cruel. The guy is 23 years old ..four years ago was a teen...now hes maimed for life. swap him out with a grandchild still say stupidity is funny? Don't think he's a complete idiot either ' just had no idea about the level of explosives he was dealing with and thought he was far away enough. Probably thought it was like fireworks explosives. Not knowing happens at 23....a lot. Just not that often thankfully with explosives.
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          • Profile picture of the author perryny
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            Don't think he's a complete idiot either ' just had no idea about the level of explosives he was dealing with and thought he was far away enough.
            He's an idiot. A complete, total, utter idiot, who should not be allowed access to automatic weapons or high explosives.

            Losing a leg is the very LEAST that should be expected when pulling the stunt he did. He's incredibly lucky to be alive.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
              Originally Posted by perryny View Post

              He's an idiot. A complete, total, utter idiot, who should not be allowed access to automatic weapons or high explosives.

              Someone could just as well say that of someone who knows nothing about a person beyond one action making that claim so emphatically... and have a very good point. I'd say a very very good point.

              Was he ignorant of the power of that explosive? sure. Does not knowing that it was that powerful make you a complete idiot if you are not familiar with explosives? nope.

              Now if I knew he did it regularly and knew the power then I'd say that but ...I dunno and I am not stupid enough to draw those conclusions based on one action of a person I know nothing else about.

              edit...seems the video has it wrong, the guy was 32 by other reports not 23. That does change my perspective. i'd think a guy his age to know better.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Any time you blow up something made of metal - you are creating a new product....called shrapnel.... Too bad he didn't think of that.
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    Is the lawnmower ok?
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      Originally Posted by mkii View Post

      It's not funny the guy blew his own leg off.

      It's funny the guy was that stupid to begin with.

      To be fair about it, for that degree of extreme stupidity, the guy now has a permanent reminder that semi automatic assault rifles (stupid) + firing guns wildly (very stupid and dangerous to others) + large amounts of explosives (insanely stupid) + detonating metal objects (usually stupid) * standing very close to an explosion (massively stupid) = I'm a complete idiot who's lucky to be alive.

      People usually recover from losing a leg below the knee, they can do amazing things with prosthetic legs now.

      How is that not funny? He unintentionally blew himself up and walked away. Think of it like a tattoo, for complete yahoos.

      Were not talking about a war veteran here. He did it to himself.

      If he died, it would be sad and not funny. You don't need both your legs. He'll be fine.

      Did you ever see the movie Idiocracy? It's the greatest prophecy of all time. The movie was created in 2006 and now we have popular youtube channels where people get kicked in the balls, most of the population consumes candy water instead of regular water, many people can not survive without fast food, people in certain states are legally allowed to purchase explosives and blow themselves up, and we have a former WWF star running for president (not a political discussion, that's a fact.)

      Mike Judge is a prophet.

      The whole thread was intended to point out the guy's utter stupidity. It wasn't intended as a "look at this poor mentally challenged bloke who is suffering from his stupidity" thread. He singled out my post who knows why ... maybe he hates cigar smoke. But look at his post history. I only browsed the first page of it and it's nothing but arguing with people. Combatant.

      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Is the lawnmower ok?
      Now that's funny. I know ... I'm a perv.
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Is the lawnmower ok?
      The Lawnmower was devastated. Equivalent to getting a Deere John letter. The owner tried to get his money back from the store but did not have a leg to stand on.
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        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        The Lawnmower was devastated. Equivalent to getting a Deere John letter. The owner tried to get his money back from the store but did not have a leg to stand on.

        This lady tried to give him a hand...


        An exploding compound that had been placed inside the refrigerator had detonated at a high velocity, sending metal fragments in her direction and almost severing her right hand.
        I wonder If the food in the refrigerator is still good.
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    He was playing with an assault rifle and high explosives as if they were toys.

    Idiot.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by perryny View Post

      He was playing with an assault rifle and high explosives as if they were toys.

      Idiot.
      I say that of people who drive to a bar expecting to drive home afterwards (shucks i think that of everyone who gets drunk) and how many do that even with high IQs?
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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by perryny View Post

        He was playing with an assault rifle and high explosives as if they were toys.

        Idiot.
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        I say that of people who drive to a bar expecting to drive home afterwards (shucks i think that of everyone who gets drunk) and how many do that even with high IQs?
        They're idiots as well.

        That woman who was in the news recently who left a loaded gun in the back of her car, and then got shot by her toddler?

        Another idiot.

        Do I have any sympathy for any of them? Nope. Not a sausage. Bugger all.

        The only people I'd have any sympathy for are any innocent bystanders who get injured or worse because of the actions of these idiots.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    The guy is 23 years old
    The article says he's 32.

    Either one is old enough to read the warning labels that COVER Tannerite. "Loss of limb" is one of the cautions about using this explosive in ways it's not intended to be used.

    It's sad he had to learn the hard way - but he's lucky to be alive.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      The article says he's 32..
      Yes I edited that - the video says 23 but it seems to be wrong.
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    Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

    They're idiots as well.

    I've seen people with very High IQs get plastered. Obviously not complete idiots. No matter what you claim on a forum as fact the real facts betray you..

    That woman who was in the news recently who left a loaded gun in the back of her car, and then got shot by her toddler?
    We'd agree there not because she was shot but because of her toddler

    Do I have any sympathy for any of them? Nope. Not a sausage. Bugger all.
    Of course because in some fairy tale world you believe against all rationality that you have never done anything stupid. Your position doesn't even make sense (I guess i should follow your lead and have no sympathy for you??). Someone who is completely stupid generally has little capacity for intelligence so you should have more sympathy not less.
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      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      Of course because in some fairy tale world you believe against all rationality that you have never done anything stupid. Your position doesn't even make sense (I guess i should follow your lead and have no sympathy for you). Someone who is completely stupid generally has little capacity for intelligence so you should have more sympathy not less.
      Sorry some of us need a way to relieve stress while some crazy guy runs around telling countries to build nuclear weapons, while all these other crazy people suicide bomb innocent people.

      Sorry we find what this guy did funny.

      He didn't die, he'll still be able to see the riots and other insanity that's likely to happen soon. I actually got my passport the other day, hopefully I'll be able to drive around down town Cleveland while I flee to Canada.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by irawr View Post

        Sorry some of us need a way to relieve stress while some crazy guy runs around telling countries to build nuclear weapons............ I actually got my passport the other day, hopefully I'll be able to drive around down town Cleveland while I flee to Canada.
        and you say they are crazy. colder weather diffuses bombs right? or is it Canada will get a pass because they are closer to Santa?

        P.S. no need to apologize. its the basement. I don't really expect anything much down here anymore.
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        • Profile picture of the author irawr
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          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          and you say they are crazy. colder weather diffuses bombs right? or is it Canada will get a pass because they are closer to Santa?

          P.S. no need to apologize. its the basement. I don't really expect anything much down here anymore.
          They're not going to bomb where I'm going. Biggest things to worry about would be bears and moose attacks.

          I live near Cleveland, if you do as well, I recommend planning an escape route now.

          I'm sure you had to do fire drills in school. In Cleveland, some of us have considered doing "Trump Riot Drills." They've already amped up the police force and purchased 2,000 extra suites of riot gear.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      I've seen people with very High IQs get plastered. Obviously not complete idiots. No matter what you claim on a forum as fact the real facts betray you..
      What are the real facts, Mike? Is being an idiot always in opposition to being intelligent?


      Idiot | Definition of Idiot by Merriam-Webster

      Foolish | Definition of Foolish by Merriam-Webster

      All of us probably know someone of high intelligence who shows a lack of good sense or judgment. By definition, these folks could be called idiots. We even have a term for them: book smart.

      Considering this guy committed a very foolish act, I don't think it a stretch for someone to call him an idiot.
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      • Profile picture of the author irawr
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        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

        What are the real facts, Mike? Is being an idiot always in opposition to being intelligent?


        Idiot | Definition of Idiot by Merriam-Webster

        Foolish | Definition of Foolish by Merriam-Webster

        All of us probably know someone of high intelligence who shows a lack of good sense or judgment. By definition, these folks could be called idiots. We even have a term for them: book smart.

        Considering this guy committed a very foolish act, I don't think it a stretch for someone to call him an idiot.
        Oh Snap! It's the dictionary! Can we get Wikipedia in here too?

        Ok So

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relati...iveness_factor

        Relative effectiveness factor:

        Composition B (used in hand grenades) 1.33
        Tanerit 0.55

        so Tanerit is 41.35% as effective as the explosives used in a hand grenade.

        A hand grenade contains 6.5 ounces of Composition B.

        3*16*.4135 = 19.848 / 6.5 = 3.0535 Hand Grenades. Probably not how you do that calculation but would you want to be 43 feet away from a bomb equivalent to 3 hand grenades going off?

        The M67 can be thrown 30 to 35 metres (98 to 115 ft) by the average male soldier. Its fuze delays detonation between 4 and 5 seconds after the spoon is released. Steel fragments (not to be confused with shrapnel) are provided by the grenade body and produce an injury radius of 15 metres (49 ft), with a fatality radius of 5 metres (16 ft), though some fragments can disperse as far out as 250 metres (820 ft).[2]
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M67_grenade

        The guy was inside of the radius for serious injury for A SINGLE hand grenade. And if 16x3 is right (I'm not an expert but I doubt it is, probably some complex volumetric calculation) then he was inside the fatality radius for three.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

        Considering this guy committed a very foolish act, I don't think it a stretch for someone to call him an idiot.
        Sure you can call anyone an idiot. Don't know how in the world you think your link for the definition of idiot helps your case though (I can see why you thought you needed to switch to the world foolish - very different - for the second link)

        Doesn't mean you are right and the OP's "complete idiot" is another matter . I don't know the details so I won't pass judgement on that. Might even have been some liquor involved. Like I said the age being different than what the TV reported changes my perspective a bit (not entirely but enough) . 32 you should know better but i could see a 23 year old just being ignorant of explosives without meeting the definition of an idiot.

        and no don't agree with your that people with high IQs would be considered the proper use of the word idiot. That's not its normal usage and certainly not "complete idiot".
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        • Profile picture of the author irawr
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          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Sure you can call anyone an idiot. Don't know how in the world you think your link for the definition of idiot helps your case though (I can see why you thought you needed to switch to the world foolish - very different - for the second link)

          Doesn't mean you are right and the OP's "complete idiot" is another matter . I don't know the details so I won't pass judgement on that. Might even have been some liquor involved. Like I said the age being different than what the TV reported changes my perspective a bit (not entirely but enough) . 32 you should know better but i could see a 23 year old just being ignorant of explosives without meeting the definition of an idiot.

          and no don't agree with your that people with high IQs would be considered the proper use of the word idiot. That's not its normal usage and certainly not "complete idiot".
          No, I explained the guy didn't know what he was doing, purpose of the Wikipedia links.

          Full Definition of idiot

          1. 1 usually offensive : a person affected with extreme mental retardation
          2. 2 : a foolish or stupid person
          Full Definition of stupid

          1. 1a : slow of mind : obtuseb : given to unintelligent decisions or acts : acting in an unintelligent or careless mannerc : lacking intelligence or reason : brutish
          2. 2 : dulled in feeling or sensation : torpid <still stupid from the sedative>
          3. 3 : marked by or resulting from unreasoned thinking or acting : senseless <a stupid decision>
          4. 4a : lacking interest or point <a stupid event>b : vexatious, exasperating <the stupid car won't start>
          Running through the Georgia woods with a semi automatic weapon and detonating bombs while standing in close proximity is an unintelligent decision.

          See the wikipedia post.



          I mean how many times does this need to happen?



          (slightly graphic)

          http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4e3_1376602237
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by irawr View Post

            No, I explained the guy didn't know what he was doing, purpose of the Wikipedia links.
            You are Riffle now? because you are pretending my response was to you rather than Riffle in your quote?


            Running through the Georgia woods with a semi automatic weapon and detonating bombs while standing in close proximity is an unintelligent decision.
            by that twisted understanding of the word idiot everyone is an idiot at some point since we all make unintelligent decisions at times. By your own quoted definition you have to be a stupid person to be an idiot. Making one stupid decision does not make you a stupid person.

            No more than one kind act makes you a kind person
            or loving one person at one time makes you a loving person

            Originally Posted by irawr View Post

            See the wikipedia post.
            don't need to. That point is just nonsensical on your part. Not knowing what is in a wikipedia article does not make you an idiot.

            i tell you what though i'd agree with you about the manufacturers and the lawmakers. They both knew what that stuff can do and its asinine that in this day of terrorism this is sold. Do I know that the guy who took the shot knew those things? I don't. If he did and decided to not heed the warnings then yeah he'd qualify for an idiot but not seen that reported. From what i saw he was under the misguided impression he was far away enough. Who might have given him that impression? don't know. Maybe he saw others that close with other things that didn't blow up that way(or didn't have metal pieces).
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            • Profile picture of the author irawr
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              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              You are Riffle now? because you are pretending my response was to you rather than Riffle in your quote?
              You have no privacy in a public place.


              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              No more than one kind act makes you a kind person
              or loving one person at one time makes you a loving person
              Ok. I agree 100% with what you're saying... I'll leave it at that. Otherwise we would have to take this to the supreme court of English because I can read the definition of the word and there's no restriction what so ever on it's usage to having to be consistent across one's lifespan. Not every definition of the word has to apply in every context, (it's actually not possible sometimes.)

              If you would like to pursue this matter any further, please be a gentleman and contact my attorney. I'm sure we can come up with some kind of reasonable arrangement.

              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              don't need to. That point is just nonsensical on your part. Not knowing what is in a wikipedia article does not make you an idiot.

              i tell you what though i'd agree with you about the manufacturers and the lawmakers. They both knew what that stuff can do and its asinine that in this day of terrorism this is sold. Do I know that the guy who took the shot knew those things? I don't. If he did and decided to not heed the warnings then yeah he'd qualify for an idiot but not seen that reported. From what i saw he was under the misguided impression he was far away enough. Who might have given him that impression? don't know. Maybe he saw others that close with other things that didn't blow up that way(or didn't have metal pieces).
              I also agree 100% but it DOES SAY ON THE FRONT OF THE LABEL to be a MINIMUM of 100 yards away.
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              • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                You have no privacy in a public place.
                You are lost. I made no claim to wanting privacy I do think its misleading and deceptive to quote my response to someone else and pretend you were the one being addressed .That's my point. You probably still won't get the point as I find you very often don't get points.

                I also agree 100% but it DOES SAY ON THE FRONT OF THE LABEL to be a MINIMUM of 100 yards away.
                sure but these things are not always kept in their labeled containers. I swear to no one's sensibility. The guy might truly be an idiot but as I have said i don't have all the info so I am not sure the guy is an idiot much less a complete one - not based on one action and without details or his point of view. I've seen some people do some things i swore was stupid and sat down with them and found out ....hmmm okay never saw that side of it and maybe not so stupid from where they are coming from. I think this practice is stupid but getting involved in a stupid sport you see others get into doesn't necessarily make you an idiot/stupid person.

                Thats my point but I'll leave it there as this has gone on beyond where i care to discuss it further
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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      I've seen people with very High IQs get plastered. Obviously not complete idiots. No matter what you claim on a forum as fact the real facts betray you..
      See Riffle's post above.

      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      Of course because in some fairy tale world you believe against all rationality that you have never done anything stupid. Your position doesn't even make sense (I guess i should follow your lead and have no sympathy for you??). Someone who is completely stupid generally has little capacity for intelligence so you should have more sympathy not less.
      I've read and re-read that 3 times and have no idea what you're talking about. Have you outsourced your posting to Seasoned?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

        See Riffle's post above.
        Did and answered it

        I've read and re-read that 3 times and have no idea what you're talking about. Have you outsourced your posting to Seasoned?
        No but you probably borrowed his reading comprehension so it seems that way to you. Perfectly understandable.

        and yes.....you have my sympathy.
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        • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
          Yes, I am quite capable of doing stupid things. I was an idiot today. I took someone off my ignore list which was idiocy of the first order. Thankfully no-one else was injured by my stupidity, and I will no doubt make a speedy recovery from it.

          There, full recovery already. Life goes on with negligible interruption.
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    The almost Darwin award goes too...

    Only in the USA lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Apparently this is a common thing to do in Walton County. The Fire and Rescue Battalion Chief said they get 2-5 calls a week about Tannerite explosions.


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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      Apparently this is a common thing to do in Walton County. The Fire and Rescue Battalion Chief said they get 2-5 calls a week about Tannerite explosions.
      Yeah it seems to be some kind of sport and judging by the reports people are not heeding the instructions. By the nature of these things there are probably lots of people who do it and don't get hurt which leads others to believe its safe.

      blowing up stuff by shooting at it seems stupid to me sure but its far from the only ting non idiots get involved in. You could even now add professional football where everyone now knows it leads to brain damage but lots of people are still cheering that each week during football season.
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      Apparently this is a common thing to do in Walton County. The Fire and Rescue Battalion Chief said they get 2-5 calls a week about Tannerite explosions.


      Man's Leg Severed, Blew Up Lawn Mower With Gun
      Pretty sure that's the same person.

      Here's a few other incidents though.

      8-year-old boy dies after man shoots Tannerite rigged stove; 4 charged (VIDEO)
      Explosion injures paramilitary instructor in Wash Co.
      http://lacrossetribune.com/news/loca...9bb2963f4.html
      Feds blaming exploding target materials for deadly Mount Hood explosion | OregonLive.com

      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      You are lost. I made no claim to wanting privacy I do think its misleading and deceptive to quote my response to someone else and pretend you were the one being addressed .That's my point. You probably still won't get the point as I find you very often don't get points.
      There's nothing deceptive going on here. I'm really am a lion. I was genetically modified and force feed all kinds of weird drugs by the CIA.

      Edit: You know I convince people to buy things they don't actually need for a living right? I mean they might want it, but the most basic level, I don't market food, water, or shelter. There's always an element of deception or trickery going on. I mean you could buy the 50$ model, but the 250$ model is really neat! Lets compare the features and not make any attempt to quantify them in terms of value
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by irawr View Post

        . I was genetically modified and force feed all kinds of weird drugs by the CIA.
        The CIA part is a bit of a stretch
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by irawr View Post

        Pretty sure that's the same person.
        I know it's the same person, the name is the same and so is the town. I wasn't pointing out another incident, I was pointing out what the Fire and Rescue Battalion guy said (that they get 2-5 calls a week on this stuff).

        Moving on...

        The mild disagreement on whether or not the guy is a complete idiot is why I try not to speak in generalities. It's tempting, and it's an easy trap to fall into, but making a sweeping judgment about someone based on one event in their life is more often than not going to be wrong. If you think otherwise, you probably haven't given it much thought.

        Yes, he did a very stupid thing...who hasn't? I know I have and I know I'm not stupid. You could say he acted like an idiot and you'd be right. Nothing to argue about there. But to say he's a complete idiot requires you know more about him than is given in the news reports.

        Think about it...what's the dumbest thing you've ever done? Would you want people to judge you ONLY by that dumb thing? Would that "dumbest thing" be an accurate assessment of you?
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        • Profile picture of the author irawr
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          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          The mild disagreement on whether or not the guy is a complete idiot is why I try not to speak in generalities. It's tempting, and it's an easy trap to fall into, but making a sweeping judgment about someone based on one event in their life is more often than not going to be wrong. If you think otherwise, you probably haven't given it much thought.

          Yes, he did a very stupid thing...who hasn't? I know I have and I know I'm not stupid. You could say he acted like an idiot and you'd be right. Nothing to argue about there. But to say he's a complete idiot requires you know more about him than is given in the news reports.

          Think about it...what's the dumbest thing you've ever done? Would you want people to judge you ONLY by that dumb thing? Would that "dumbest thing" be an accurate assessment of you?
          Look, you don't just wake up and decide this is a good idea out of the blue. Obviously something led up to this.

          Dumbest thing I've ever done?

          Man I can't really think of anything.

          Probably embarrassing myself in public because I drank too much. I didn't do anything really crazy or anything, but I remember an episode where I was saying things in an attempt to intentionally piss somebody off and when I woke up the next day I couldn't believe I did that. Apologizing my way out of it didn't work either. I ended up ruining a friendship.

          Would I want people judging me based upon that? No. But I didn't have my friend following behind me shooting a video of it and then put it on the internet completely enabling that judgement of others to occur.

          I think that's what you guys are missing here. No crime was committed, that video wasn't evidence in a case, it was released likely with permission from the person being filmed.

          The dude blew his leg off and most likely told his buddy to post it online...

          I don't know how to interpret that. Is the guy bragging? Is this an awareness thing? I'm not seeing an interview here.

          I can give you the link to the full video released if you want. The media chopped it up so it's legal under "fair use."

          So take my assessment, as judgemental as you think it might be, and then eliminate the specific event that occurred.

          You just did something really stupid, doesn't matter what it was.

          Then a video appears online?

          How did that happen? Did you give your friend permission to post it online? I wouldn't. If you got hurt really bad, would a real friend do that to you?

          Do you really think the friend posted a video of his friend doing something like that online without permission? Maybe a harmless prank video or you passed out drunk and your friends put stuff all over you.

          It's possible, but considering what occurred, I personally don't think so.

          I think the guy thought he was rambo, got maimed, then told his buddy (who almost died in reality) to post it online, and then media picked it up. And then you're judging me because I'm calling the guy an idiot. I think the problem is way worse then you think it is. I'm pretty confident it's a systemic condition.

          Also, people judge each other based upon first impressions all the time. Stop kidding yourselves. Your conscious mind may want you to believe that you're better then that, but I assure you, your actions will not align accordingly.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by irawr View Post

            Dumbest thing I've ever done?

            Man I can't really think of anything.
            Then it might be ongoing?

            identifying it is what usually makes it stop.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              We had tannerite here (which is why I knew about the warning labels) and it was used for longer range rifle practice. It's not a huge explosion when used by a responsible shooter - just enough to know when you hit the target. The folks I know aren't hunters but target shooters.
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              • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                We had tannerite here (which is why I knew about the warning labels) and it was used for longer range rifle practice. It's not a huge explosion when used by a responsible shooter - just enough to know when you hit the target. The folks I know aren't hunters but target shooters.
                Obviously, not every shooter is responsible since Tannerite accidents seem to be not hard to find in some places. Real shooters know when they hit the target. There's a little hole in the target. They don't need an explosion to confirm they hit the target. These are people who just enjoy blowing shit up.

                Considering we live in a time where blowing shit up is all too common, the government would do well to eliminate the Tannerite loophole and allow only explosive licensed individuals to use it.
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                • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
                  I'll probably regret this, but...

                  Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                  Look, you don't just wake up and decide this is a good idea out of the blue. Obviously something led up to this.
                  Like doing it successfully several times, perhaps? Or being with others who have done it without incident? Frankly, I can see the appeal. The 4th of July is my favorite holiday because of the fireworks.

                  Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                  Dumbest thing I've ever done?
                  Wasn't really trying to get anyone to "confess" their dumbest moves. Just hoped to give a different perspective to consider to anyone who hadn't done so yet.

                  Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                  Would I want people judging me based upon that? No. But I didn't have my friend following behind me shooting a video of it and then put it on the internet completely enabling that judgement of others to occur.

                  I think that's what you guys are missing here. No crime was committed, that video wasn't evidence in a case, it was released likely with permission from the person being filmed.

                  The dude blew his leg off and most likely told his buddy to post it online...

                  I don't know how to interpret that. Is the guy bragging? Is this an awareness thing? I'm not seeing an interview here.
                  There's no need to interpret anything if we don't make those assumptions in the first place. "Most likely" means you don't know, you're drawing conclusions by guessing.

                  I could guess that video was posted online before the dude was out of the hospital and before he'd seen it. Maybe it wasn't, but it's a possibility. And if that happened, once it's posted, it's there. Too late to remove it in a timely fashion once others start reposting it. He may not even be out of the hospital yet.

                  Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                  Do you really think the friend posted a video of his friend doing something like that online without permission? Maybe a harmless prank video or you passed out drunk and your friends put stuff all over you.

                  It's possible, but considering what occurred, I personally don't think so.
                  Which is another way of saying you don't know.

                  And "friends" do all sorts of things to each other you and I might not do. We can't judge all friendships by our own standards of friendship. Well, we can, but it will often lead to mistaken conclusions. If being wrong is an acceptable outcome for guesses at reality for you, I have no more to say on that point.

                  Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                  I think the guy thought he was rambo, got maimed, then told his buddy (who almost died in reality) to post it online, and then media picked it up.
                  You may well be right. That doesn't necessarily make him a complete idiot, just someone who did something idiotic. We all have. And, he could well be an idiot. No one is arguing he's not, just that it's not a certainty. Cherry-picking one misfortunate event out of an entire lifetime and drawing a sweeping conclusion from it usually isn't any more accurate than cherry-picking the best event and saying his whole life is like that. Each points to one of the farthest edges of experience, while reality is usually somewhere closer to the middle.

                  Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                  And then you're judging me because I'm calling the guy an idiot. I think the problem is way worse then you think it is. I'm pretty confident it's a systemic condition.
                  I didn't judge you, that's another assumption you've made. Actually, if I told you what my perceptions of you were prior to this thread, I would have mentioned things I'm sure you'd appreciate. That hasn't really changed. Disagreement doesn't necessarily equate to personal judgment. There's a difference between judging a person and disagreeing with an idea.

                  Also, you don't know how bad I think the problem is - I haven't said. That's yet another assumption on your part.

                  Seriously, I don't expect to my post to change anyone's thinking or behavior. I joined the conversation late, and did so because the differences of opinion seemed more semantic than substantial, and I thought I might be able to provide a bridge between the two takes.

                  It's also possible someone reading this, or who may read it in the future, will benefit by seeing different ways of thinking. One can always hope our words will somehow have a positive impact on someone. So while I don't expect my posts to change anyone's thinking or behavior, it is a possibility, and one could argue that I'd be remiss in my participation here if I didn't offer a valid alternative perspective when I think I have one. All I can do is put it out there for consideration, it's not up to me how it's received.

                  Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                  Also, people judge each other based upon first impressions all the time. Stop kidding yourselves. Your conscious mind may want you to believe that you're better then that, but I assure you, your actions will not align accordingly.
                  Of course we do. We also filter those judgments and choose not to make many of them public knowledge. When we do make them public, they are subject to scrutiny by those exposed to them. Making judgments doesn't mean they are right. They often aren't. That's why we need to think about what we're saying instead of just releasing unfiltered thoughts.


                  Having said all that, if you want to think him a complete idiot, that's fine with me. I've said all I've got to say about it. I was just trying to create a bridge, no one has to walk across it.

                  Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                  Considering we live in a time where blowing shit up is all too common, the government would do well to eliminate the Tannerite loophole and allow only explosive licensed individuals to use it.
                  Totally agree with that.
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                    Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

                    It's also possible someone reading this, or who may read it in the future, will benefit by seeing different ways of thinking. One can always hope our words will somehow have a positive impact on someone. So while I don't expect my posts to change anyone's thinking or behavior, it is a possibility, and one could argue that I'd be remiss in my participation here if I didn't offer a valid alternative perspective when I think I have one. All I can do is put it out there for consideration, it's not up to me how it's received.

                    That's why we need to think about what we're saying instead of just releasing unfiltered thoughts.
                    Amen to that brother
                    And that's what we call "adding" to this World instead of "taking away" , imo
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                  • Profile picture of the author irawr
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                    Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

                    I'll probably regret this, but...

                    There's no need to interpret anything if we don't make those assumptions in the first place. "Most likely" means you don't know, you're drawing conclusions by guessing.

                    I could guess that video was posted online before the dude was out of the hospital and before he'd seen it. Maybe it wasn't, but it's a possibility. And if that happened, once it's posted, it's there. Too late to remove it in a timely fashion once others start reposting it. He may not even be out of the hospital yet.

                    It's also possible someone reading this, or who may read it in the future, will benefit by seeing different ways of thinking. One can always hope our words will somehow have a positive impact on someone. So while I don't expect my posts to change anyone's thinking or behavior, it is a possibility, and one could argue that I'd be remiss in my participation here if I didn't offer a valid alternative perspective when I think I have one. All I can do is put it out there for consideration, it's not up to me how it's received.

                    Of course we do. We also filter those judgments and choose not to make many of them public knowledge. When we do make them public, they are subject to scrutiny by those exposed to them. Making judgments doesn't mean they are right. They often aren't. That's why we need to think about what we're saying instead of just releasing unfiltered thoughts.

                    Having said all that, if you want to think him a complete idiot, that's fine with me. I've said all I've got to say about it. I was just trying to create a bridge, no one has to walk across it.
                    I agree with you except one thing.

                    The person who told you that you're not allowed to make assumptions, is wrong.

                    You're allowed to, you just need to be able to accept the possibility that you're wrong.

                    This is especially true when it involves your personal safety.

                    This isn't a science experiment, I'm not mixing random chemicals together assuming they aren't going to explode in my face. I wouldn't want to accept the responsibility of the potential consequences.

                    It's a survival tactic to be able to quickly make a judgement about a person without having all information available. With that said, I'm not going hunting or target shooting with this person. And I would prefer to be at a distance of at least 100 yards, while that person is operating a motorized anything.

                    That's all you know about the guy, when he gets out of the hospital, are you going to go shooting with him?

                    At this point I would really be repeating myself but I can put the facts I do have together and I can safely make an assessment.

                    Look this guy isn't going to be the next CEO of Microsoft and I know what kind of offers convert well in that state. OK?

                    What's next are you guys going to be defending people who blew themselves up with their meth lab? ...
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                    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
                      Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                      I agree with you except one thing.

                      The person who told you that you're not allowed to make assumptions, is wrong.

                      You're allowed to, you just need to be able to accept the possibility that you're wrong.

                      This is especially true when it involves your personal safety.

                      This isn't a science experiment, I'm not mixing random chemicals together assuming they aren't going to explode in my face. I wouldn't want to accept the responsibility of the potential consequences.

                      It's a survival tactic to be able to quickly make a judgement about a person without having all information available. With that said, I'm not going hunting or target shooting with this person. And I would prefer to be at a distance of at least 100 yards, while that person is operating a motorized anything.

                      That's all you know about the guy, when he gets out of the hospital, are you going to go shooting with him?

                      At this point I would really be repeating myself but I can put the facts I do have together and I can safely make an assessment.

                      Look this guy isn't going to be the next CEO of Microsoft and I know what kind of offers convert well in that state. OK?

                      What's next are you guys going to be defending people who blew themselves up with their meth lab? ...

                      So the difference between calling someone a complete idiot and just saying they did an idiotic thing is survival to you? OK... I'm just going to leave that one lay right there.
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                      • Profile picture of the author irawr
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                        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

                        So the difference between calling someone a complete idiot and just saying they did an idiotic thing is survival to you? OK... I'm just going to leave that one lay right there.
                        My previous post got deleted.

                        I guess the mods didn't appreciate my "artwork."

                        Yes. I'm judgemental.

                        Had I known that so many people would be defending this person, honestly I would have said it anyways but I would have probably bailed on my attempts to justify the words I choose to use a lot sooner.

                        It's perfectly legal to do what he did and it's perfectly legal to have an opinion about it.

                        Which was actually my point about this.

                        But I obviously can't convince everyone and I wasn't prepared to.

                        Personally I take people who do these types of things, and I create a little bucket in my mind for them, then I move the bucket away from me. I never understood the desire to experience "dangerous activities" (at least not things like that) it really just doesn't seem like it's worth the risk. I don't want to be associated with people who do these kinds of things, because obviously it affects more people then just the individual.

                        Looking around twitter trying to find more details, it seems like my opinion of this isn't really that harsh compared to what other people had to say.

                        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                        Not easy to see with long range shooting. Used properly, there's not a big bang with this explosive. Just a "pop" and a puff of smoke. Useful for sighting a new scope or new rifle.

                        If we ban everything that can be used to hurt someone - there wouldn't be much for sale, would there? You can ban the sale of Tannerite (I wouldn't care if that happened) but you can make it easily yourself with two ingredients. Making explosives isn't hard - the terrorists already know that.
                        It's actually already banned in Ohio. Has been for some years.
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                          Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                          My previous post got deleted.


                          LMAO

                          There's two profiles posting in this thread that are chronic narks.
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                          • Profile picture of the author irawr
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                            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                            LMAO

                            There's two profiles posting in this thread that are chronic narks.
                            Know any good writers who know about organic tea? I guess I'm getting into the tea niche.
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                            • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                              Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                              Know any good writers who know about organic tea? I guess I'm getting into the tea niche.

                              Just one?












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                              • Profile picture of the author irawr
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                                Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                                Just one?
                                Just one good one.

                                Somebody like this person.



                                I'm not sure who this person is, but I could totally see them having a website about tea.

                                They need to be willing to have their picture on the about page, they don't need to use their real name though. I'm just getting kind of tried of playing "create-a-person" in photoshop.


                                I'll get the rest of the content off the content mills.
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                        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

                        So the difference between calling someone a complete idiot and just saying they did an idiotic thing is survival to you? OK... I'm just going to leave that one lay right there.
                        Yep...There comes a point in which you will short circuit your own brain if you try and follow contorted thinking and the claim

                        I justify making rash judgments and generalizations of human beings I don't know and will never meet for survival is just too silly to contemplate for too long.

                        Your own brain will feel its being tortured by such illogic

                        It makes absolutely ZERO sense which is ironic given the premise of this thread....only difference being Tannerite was not involved in that ZERO sense argument.
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                        • Profile picture of the author irawr
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                          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                          Yep...There comes a point in which you will short circuit your own brain if you try and follow contorted thinking and the claim

                          I justify making rash judgments and generalizations of human beings I don't know and will never meet for survival is just too silly to contemplate for too long.

                          Your own brain will feel its being tortured by such illogic

                          It makes absolutely ZERO sense which is ironic given the premise of this thread....only difference being Tannerite was not involved in that ZERO sense argument.
                          There's a man walking towards you with an assault rifle, you've realize you've met him once, what do you do?

                          The ability to use your judgement is absolutely a survival tactic.

                          Some people have a live by the sword, die by the sword attitude.

                          And some people are mentally unstable.

                          That absolutely puts you in danger.

                          I don't need to get know that guy to know I don't want to have anything to do with him.

                          If you think being buddies with a guy who detonates bombs is totally fine that's your decision, I wouldn't make that one. Most of my friends have hobbies like painting, poker, and traveling. I don't have any friends who feel the need to own semi automatic assault rifles.

                          I'm not going to repeat myself but let me analyze what he did without making any assumptions, even if this had gone right:

                          What a waste of time, you're doing something extremely dangerous, in the middle of nowhere, it's antisocial, you're destroying your own property (I hope), it's not adventurous, you're not developing relationships, skills, experiences, you're not relaxing, you're not exercising, it takes a significant amount of time to set this up and clean it up (or you're damaging the environment.)

                          To me, that's idiotic.

                          At the very least, it's people like this who are going to end up damaging the second amendment rights of other people.

                          I'm not going to argue about this I am clarifying my statements.
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                          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                            Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                            There's a man walking towards you with an assault rifle, you've realize you've met him once, what do you do?

                            I don't have any friends who feel the need to own semi automatic assault rifles.
                            Well, in my world, it would likely be a hunter or friend or customer of my father's and I would greet him warmly. I live in an area where carrying semi-automatic rifles is common. It's called the country. Farmland. Mountains. Forests.

                            Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                            What a waste of time, you're doing something extremely dangerous, in the middle of nowhere, it's antisocial, you're destroying your own property (I hope), it's not adventurous, you're not developing relationships, skills, experiences, you're not relaxing, you're not exercising, it takes a significant amount of time to set this up and clean it up (or you're damaging the environment.)
                            I have to be honest ... while I think explosives in some people's hands could harm themselves and others, I would love nothing more than to blow stuff up. I love implosions too. Fascinating.

                            Do I blow stuff up? No. Doesn't mean that it wouldn't excite me. You can have your poker. [yawn]
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                            • Profile picture of the author irawr
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                              Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                              Well, in my world, it would likely be a hunter or friend or customer of my father's and I would greet him warmly. I live in an area where carrying semi-automatic rifles is common. It's called the country. Farmland. Mountains. Forests.
                              Right. I live near Cleveland, I see this, I'm calling 911 and running.

                              Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                              I have to be honest ... while I think explosives in some people's hands could harm themselves and others, I would love nothing more than to blow stuff up. I love implosions too. Fascinating.

                              Do I blow stuff up? No. Doesn't mean that it wouldn't excite me. You can have your poker. [yawn]
                              In the process of typing the message you responded to I lost an auction that I really wanted. I'm starting to see the foolishness of arguing with people over what the definition of a complete idiot is. I certain feel like one at this very moment.

                              I love seeing the numbers in my bank account hit new record highs and Yeah ... GDI...

                              Thanks Mike Anthony, it's not really your fault but I'm going to blame you anyways, somebody just got a sick domain for cheap because of you. Totally your fault.
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                              • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                                Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                                Thanks Mike Anthony, it's not really your fault but I'm going to blame you anyways, somebody just got a sick domain for cheap because of you. Totally your fault.
                                lol ... sorry to hear that. You should have waited to respond here. This just ain't very important in the grand scheme of things.
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                                Originally Posted by irawr View Post


                                Thanks Mike Anthony, it's not really your fault but I'm going to blame you anyways, somebody just got a sick domain for cheap because of you. Totally your fault.
                                Glad to hear. Somewhere in the country side someone is shooting 50 feet away at a Tannerite loaded lawmower in your honor.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                            Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                            There's a man walking towards you with an assault rifle, you've realize you've met him once, what do you do?
                            Well I'd Stop posting on WF about some guy that I will never meet and know nothing about and either seek cover or engage in a conversation if there was none to be had . (running gets you shot in the back - however if guns not pointing down all bets are off especially if I am packing)

                            The ability to use your judgement is absolutely a survival tactic
                            which has absolutely nothing to do with posting on a forum - the present activity you are using survival as an excuse for . Like I said

                            "I justify making rash judgments and generalizations of human beings I don't know and will never meet for survival is just too silly to contemplate for too long."
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                              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                              "I justify making rash judgments and generalizations of human beings I don't know and will never meet for survival is just too silly to contemplate for too long."
                              Mike were talking about guns and bombs here, not whether or not they took out a payday loan and then the check bounced.

                              Unrelated. What's your opinion about hanisorganics.com? I could use another site about organic foods site but I don't know if I want a goat cheese farmer tracking me down.
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            • Profile picture of the author discrat
              Yep seems like an idiotic thing. Not sure he is a complete idiot. Probably is.
              But Im with Fox and MA with the funny thing

              Nothing funny about this.

              Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

              They're idiots as well.

              That woman who was in the news recently who left a loaded gun in the back of her car, and then got shot by her toddler?

              Another idiot.

              Do I have any sympathy for any of them? Nope. Not a sausage. Bugger all.

              The only people I'd have any sympathy for are any innocent bystanders who get injured or worse because of the actions of these idiots.
              Sorry Whatty, I respect you opinions in general but wtf ??

              Not a sausage ? Sometimes when I see people post stuff like this they are not thinking rationally ( maybe not the case here , I simply don't know but you seem like a rational person in general)

              When I see this stuff I realize no matter how many times humans say "that we are all alike"... I realize that we are NOT all alike. As this is just foreign to me, this type of attitude

              So we all have moms. dads, sister, brothers, uncles,cousins etc..etc..
              so by what you are saying none of those people close to you have ever done something silly or nonsenical ?

              I suspect they probably have.

              So that being said if one of those beloved humans in your Life did something nonsensical in their life and it caused bodily injury or even death( like that women being shot by toddler or this guy ) you wouldn't mind ( or even agree) with others or even strangers making cracks about your loved ones
              saying " I don't have a sausage of sympathy for Whatty's loved ones and the horrific pain they
              went thru, it was their stupidity"

              It's simply putting yourselves in some else's shoes and having some Empathy
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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              Real shooters know when they hit the target. There's a little hole in the target.
              Not easy to see with long range shooting. Used properly, there's not a big bang with this explosive. Just a "pop" and a puff of smoke. Useful for sighting a new scope or new rifle.

              If we ban everything that can be used to hurt someone - there wouldn't be much for sale, would there? You can ban the sale of Tannerite (I wouldn't care if that happened) but you can make it easily yourself with two ingredients. Making explosives isn't hard - the terrorists already know that.
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              • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                If we ban everything that can be used to hurt someone - there wouldn't be much for sale, would there?

                Forks are dangerous.




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              • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                Not easy to see with long range shooting. Used properly, there's not a big bang with this explosive. Just a "pop" and a puff of smoke. Useful for sighting a new scope or new rifle.

                If we ban everything that can be used to hurt someone - there wouldn't be much for sale, would there? You can ban the sale of Tannerite (I wouldn't care if that happened) but you can make it easily yourself with two ingredients. Making explosives isn't hard - the terrorists already know that.
                Kay, I grew up on long range rifle ranges. I assure you that serious shooters would never use exploding targets for any reason and have no trouble sighting in their rifles without explosions.

                In fact, as involved as my life has been with long range, high powered shooting, this is the first I've even heard of Tannerite, and even though it can be made at home, this is a loophole that should be closed. Obviously, if people are dying and losing limbs, it is a dangerous thing to put in the hands of people who make bad decisions with it.

                They don't sell a lot of fireworks for the same reason.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              I didn't grow up with them but the people I spend time with now are gun people and the rifle enthusiasts occasionally use this stuff.

              I don't argue with them about it - because they know more about guns than I do. I did ask about the Tannerite purchase though and was told the only reason for using it a few months ago was that several of the people who target shoot together had new scopes and new rifles....one of them thought this stuff was the best way to get used to the sights so they tried it. Most weren't impressed.

              It's the same with any sport - people have different ideas of what works. None of them are necessarily wrong - just different.

              When I lived on the coast I was shocked that you could buy huge fireworks with no restrictions except age. That wasn't a problem as parents bought the stuff for their kids and then turned the kids loose with it.

              You had neighborhoods of houses with huge fireworks going off and landing on roofs, etc....dangerous stuff but legal there. Can't do that here - and I don't miss it a bit.
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              • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                I didn't grow up with them but the people I spend time with now are gun people and the rifle enthusiasts occasionally use this stuff.

                I don't argue with them about it - because they know more about guns than I do. I did ask about the Tannerite purchase though and was told the only reason for using it a few months ago was that several of the people who target shoot together had new scopes and new rifles....one of them thought this stuff was the best way to get used to the sights so they tried it. Most weren't impressed.

                It's the same with any sport - people have different ideas of what works. None of them are necessarily wrong - just different.

                When I lived on the coast I was shocked that you could buy huge fireworks with no restrictions except age. That wasn't a problem as parents bought the stuff for their kids and then turned the kids loose with it.

                You had neighborhoods of houses with huge fireworks going off and landing on roofs, etc....dangerous stuff but legal there. Can't do that here - and I don't miss it a bit.
                You can't buy big fireworks in VA, but people used to go to West VA to get fireworks. Don't know if they're still legal there or not, but I've always preferred my children, and insisted on it, to go to our county or Washington, DC fireworks displayed by professionals. I would have never let go to a backyard fireworks display. The most my kids ever had were the sparklers and I supervised that also. You can get burned by those.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              Having said all that, if you want to think him a complete idiot, that's fine with me. I've said all I've got to say about it. I was just trying to create a bridge, no one has to walk across it.
              Can you be an incomplete idiot? Always wondered about that. Sometimes even if you build a bridge, some idiot will try to swim to the other side....and get washed away over the falls.
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              • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
                Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                Can you be an incomplete idiot? Always wondered about that. Sometimes even if you build a bridge, some idiot will try to swim to the other side....and get washed away over the falls.
                I guess that depends on how you define things. Would a person be a complete idiot for not being able to tell a taxi driver his own address because he forgot it? Albert Einstein did that.


                @irawr - Didn't see your deleted post so I can't comment to that.

                Let me make a clarification: I haven't seen anyone defend the person or his actions, as you allege. What has been argued is whether or not it was funny (which I didn't comment about), and whether or not the man is an idiot or simply did an idiotic thing. There's evidence to support he did an idiotic thing, but it ends there in my opinion.

                All I've said all along is that there's not enough evidence to support a verdict of complete idiocy. We can leave it at that, or if you want to convince me you're right, then show me the supporting evidence that backs up your claim that he's a complete idiot.
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                • Profile picture of the author irawr
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                  Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

                  All I've said all along is that there's not enough evidence to support a verdict of complete idiocy. While you have a right to your opinion, as you said, so do I. We can leave it at that, or if you want to convince me you're right, then show me the supporting evidence that backs up your claim that he's a complete idiot.
                  I was trying for a bit, not much showed up to support my assumption.

                  The guy seems like kind of a ghost, I couldn't really find anything.

                  And we're really digging deep into the granularity of what's required for "true complete idiocy." Even if I found a long track record of it, it really does come down to individual opinion.

                  I mean what do you think it takes for somebody to be considered a "complete idiot."

                  I won't argue, but I really do want to know.

                  I personally don't think IQ scores or personal wealth have anything to do with it, but rather major events. I've heard this term used before, that guy comes across to me as a "Gasoline Drinker" at the very least.

                  But what's the threshold here? When are you not a complete idiot and what is the requirement to become a complete idiot? Your opinion.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
                    Originally Posted by irawr View Post

                    I mean what do you think it takes for somebody to be considered a "complete idiot."
                    I won't argue, but I really do want to know.
                    I personally don't think IQ scores or personal wealth have anything to do with it, but rather major events. I've heard this term used before, that guy comes across to me as a "Gasoline Drinker" at the very least.
                    But what's the threshold here? When are you not a complete idiot and what is the requirement to become a complete idiot? Your opinion.
                    To me the word "complete" adds a historical context to the statement. It encompasses more than one event or observation. The "threshold" then, would be a consistency of idiotic behavior and decisions over time.

                    Now, I apologize if it seems like I was giving you a hard time. I only joined the fray because the topic was already under discussion and I thought I could add some clarity.

                    Even at that, I didn't direct my comments at anyone in particular. I did quote you about another point, then added "Moving on..." to my post to indicate the rest of my comment wasn't directed at you. Perhaps I should have made that clearer.

                    My subsequent posts were directed at you because I was replying to your posts directed at me.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              Had to laugh at the statement below on an "ohio legal" site...

              Readily available at area sporting goods stores and online such as Gander Mountain, Tannerite is readily available for purchase in Ohio.

              However, using it can be a problem.


              I found it offered online at several gun and rural stores in the area.
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    Ok. I take it back. He might not be a complete idiot.

    But I'll bet anyone here real money that that knucklehead does NOT have a High IQ.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by perryny View Post

      Ok. I take it back. He might not be a complete idiot.

      But I'll bet anyone here real money that that knucklehead does NOT have a High IQ.
      I could go with that and would not bet against it. because most people walking around in the country with rifles don't tend to be.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        I could go with that and would not bet against it. because most people walking around in the country with rifles don't tend to be.
        Well, there's a big difference in some that walk around the country with rifles and others that walk around the country with rifles. My brother and father filled up our freezer every year with the best meat anyone could eat and my brother still does. The majority of the meat we eat is wild game, rather than meat from factory farms.

        My father was a national champion at the rifle matches held every year at Camp Perry, Ohio ... that just among many awards and medals he's won in competitive shooting.

        Neither of them would even think of shooting a gun at explosives. Neither of them would ever buy a "exploding target."



        Ok ... maybe he's not a totally, complete idiot. Maybe he does some smart things too. He'll have to learn to do those with one leg now though.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Well, there's a big difference in some that walk around the country with rifles and others that walk around the country with rifles. My brother and father filled up our freezer every year with the best meat anyone could eat and my brother still does. The majority of the meat we eat is wild game, rather than meat from factory farms. .

          Nothing against hunters. I was more referring to people just walking around with high powered rifles for no reason but they can and not even all of them.

          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Considering we live in a time where blowing shit up is all too common, the government would do well to eliminate the Tannerite loophole and allow only explosive licensed individuals to use it.
          I'd be willing to call the politicians idiots if they continue doing nothing about that. Our own citizens are telegraphing to terrorists a readily available way of causing mayhem
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    How do I buy stock in Tannerite?

    They obviously have an endless supply of morons, I mean buyers.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    OK, time for the periodic ad. I have nothing to do with them, but I wish I felt free enough to have started it LONG ago!

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