Neil Young vs frank Zappa

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social comments of real life song writers:

I could be happy for the rest of my life with a Cinnamon girl
only love can break your heart - i'll give you till the morning comes
don't it let you bring you down - Cripple creek ferry!

Out on the weekend - start a brand new day...

[the good part]




hey there people, my name is Bobby Brown

[the ugly bad part]
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    As she abused the sausage patty
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  • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
    Maybe the youngins know Neil as part of Crosby&Stills&Nash

    but possible they dont know Frank

    here a little update what he was up to:

    "Hey there, people, I'm Bobby Brown
    They say I'm the cutest boy in town
    My car is fast, my teeth are shiny
    I tell all the girls they can kiss my heinie
    Here I am at a famous school
    I'm dressin' sharp & I'm actin' cool
    I got a cheerleader here wants to help with my paper
    Let her do all the work & maybe later I'll rape her

    Oh God I am the American dream
    I do not think I'm too extreme
    & I'm a handsome son of a bitch
    I'm gonna get a good job & be real rich

    (Get a good
    Get a good
    Get a good
    Get a good job)

    Women's Liberation
    Came creepin' across the nation
    I tell you people I was not ready
    When I ****ed this dyke by the name of Freddie
    She made a little speech then,
    Aw, she tried to make me say "when"
    She had my balls in a vise, but she left the dick
    I guess it's still hooked on, but now it shoots too quick

    Oh God I am the American dream
    But now I smell like Vaseline
    & I'm a miserable son of a bitch
    Am I a lord or a lady, I don't know which

    (I wonder wonder
    Wonder wonder)

    So I went out & bought me a leisure suit
    I jingle my change, but I'm still kinda cute
    Got a job doin' radio promo
    & none of the jocks can even tell I'm a homo
    Eventually me n' a friend
    Sorta drifted along into S&M
    I can take about an hour on the tower of power
    'Long as I gets a little golden shower

    Oh God I am the American dream
    With a spindle up my butt till it makes me scream
    & I'll do anything to get ahead
    I lay awake nights sayin', "Thank you, Fred!"
    Oh God, oh God, I'm so fantastic!
    Thanks to Freddie, I'm a sexual spastic
    And my name is Bobby Brown
    Watch me now, I'm goin down,
    And my name is Bobby Brown
    Watch me now, I'm goin down

    (Laughing) I knew you'd be surprised"
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    THE POODLE BY-EE-ITES
    THE POODLE CHEWS IT
    THE POODLE BY-EE-ITES
    THE POODLE CHEWS IT
    THE POODLE BY-EE-ITES
    THE POODLE CHEWS IT
    THE POODLE BY-EE-ITES
    THE POODLE CHEWS IT
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      THE POODLE BY-EE-ITES
      (Come on, Frenchie)
      THE POODLE CHEWS IT
      (Snap it!)
      THE POODLE BY-EE-ITES
      (Come on, Frenchie)
      THE POODLE CHEWS IT
      (Snap it!)
      THE POODLE BY-EE-ITES
      (Come on, Frenchie)
      THE POODLE CHEWS IT
      (Snap it!)
      THE POODLE BY-EE-ITES
      (Come on, Frenchie)
      THE POODLE CHEWS IT
      (Not a speck of cereal)
      etc.
      Fixed.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
    lucky POODLE - he gets it all

    now i have dinner

    POODLE : cannot touch that one
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I might be moving to Montana soon
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    Frank Zappa wrote and recorded what I consider to be the first rap song ever. It's called "Trouble Comin' Everyday.' Check it out.

    I can listen to 20 minutes of Zappa, compared to 2 hours of Neil Young. My radio station playlist has 2 cuts by Zappa and 27 by Young.

    I applaud the lyrics to Booby Brown, but musically, it's pure crap. Unfortunately, musically, most of Zappa's output is crap. It was fun when I was dropping acid in the 60's, but times and tastes change - or at least they should.

    Frank
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

      Frank Zappa wrote and recorded what I consider to be the first rap song ever. It's called "Trouble Comin' Everyday.' Check it out.

      I can listen to 20 minutes of Zappa, compared to 2 hours of Neil Young. My radio station playlist has 2 cuts by Zappa and 27 by Young.

      I applaud the lyrics to Booby Brown, but musically, it's pure crap. Unfortunately, musically, most of Zappa's output is crap. It was fun when I was dropping acid in the 60's, but times and tastes change - or at least they should.

      Frank
      I can listen to two days of Zappa and 2 seconds of Neil Young.


      And I consider "Cocaine Blues" by Johnny Cash to be the first "rap" song.
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      • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        I can listen to two days of Zappa and 2 seconds of Neil Young.
        You're a masochist. We get it.

        And I consider "Cocaine Blues" by Johnny Cash to be the first "rap" song.
        Sorry, that's just a typical shit-kickin' song. The Zappa song is urban-poetry.

        Frank
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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

          You're a masochist. We get it.


          Sorry, that's just a typical shit-kickin' song. The Zappa song is urban-poetry.

          Frank
          Cocaine, murder, cops, guns, judges, bitches and prison...sounds like topics covered by many rap artists to me...




          I'm a masochist for listening to someone you call "urban-poetry"??? That's ironic.
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          • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            I'm a masochist for listening to someone you call "urban-poetry"??? That's ironic.
            Rap and Urban Poetry. You can't deny it, unless you just choose to be argumentative. lol


            Cheers. - Frank

            P.S. I love the mini-homage (sarcasm) to Bob Dylan. Priceless!!!
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            • Profile picture of the author Kurt
              Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

              Rap and Urban Poetry. You can't deny it, unless you just choose to be argumentative. lol

              Trouble Every Day - Mothers of Invention - YouTube

              Cheers. - Frank

              P.S. I love the mini-homage (sarcasm) to Bob Dylan. Priceless!!!
              Ummmm....I never said it wasn't "rap" or "urban poetry". I said Cocaine Blues was first.
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              • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                Ummmm....I never said it wasn't "rap" or "urban poetry". I said Cocaine Blues was first.
                First at what? That song is run-of-the-mill hillbilly horse shit. Instead of cryin' in his bear about his dead dog or his busted pickup truck, he's talking about cocaine.

                What am I missing??? lol

                Frank
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                • Profile picture of the author Kurt
                  Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                  First at what? That song is run-of-the-mill hillbilly horse shit. Instead of cryin' in his bear about his dead dog or his busted pickup truck, he's talking about cocaine.

                  What am I missing??? lol

                  Frank

                  What are you missing? A clue.

                  It's a fact that Johnny Cash was before Zappa. The rest is opinion. I have a feeling it's just because both you and Zappa are both named "Frank". And discussing what the first rap song was is about as amusing as discussing who was the first to litter. I'd much rather be discussing what was the LAST rap song.

                  Not to mention, anyone that can cry in their "bear" is someone that you probably shouldn't mess with... LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post



        And I consider "Cocaine Blues" by Johnny Cash to be the first "rap" song.
        Before Cash there was this version in the 40s.


        The first rap song? I would say James Brown, Gil Scott-Heron or some of the Reggae toasters from the 70s were closer to making the first rap song than a Zappa song or Cocaine Blues.

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    • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
      Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

      Frank Zappa wrote and recorded what I consider to be the first rap song ever. It's called "Trouble Comin' Everyday.' Check it out.



      Frank
      I ACTUALLY DO KNOW THAT SONG: Brilliant!

      then again i'm sort of a fan: got 25 'albums' of that guy - before
      sold them ALL

      only got 3 of Neil

      but man, my best friend: he says Neil rules - so i go with that
      he always knows, and actually he likes guitar bands - hahaha


      guitar bands ?

      you know:

      The Smiths

      The Kooks

      hahaha, Brits!

      what da f
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    Down in joe's garage
    We didn't have no dope or lsd
    But a coupla quartsa beer

    Would fix it so the intonation
    Would not offend yer ear
    And the same old chords goin' over 'n over
    Became a symphony

    We could play it again 'n again 'n again
    'Cause it sounded good to me
    One more time!

    We could jam in joe's garage
    His mama was screamin',
    "turn it down!"
    We was playin' the same old song
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  • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
    ahh, the days of "Hungry Freaks, daddy"
    its been awhile...the sound almost is 'true mono'

    the mothers were almost serious at that time, later
    Frank got a bit too deep into sarcasm, funny
    at times, too long at other times [get off the
    f**g guitar Frank that solo has to end rigght now]

    still later:

    My car is fast, my teeth are shiny
    I tell all the girls they can kiss my heinky* [censored & fixed]

    * slang expression for a bottle of Heineken
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  • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
    all lyrics aside, musically i like the time period of
    'Apostrophe' and 'One Size Fits All' because he
    was good on guitar - But George Duke on
    keyboards added a much more complex deeper
    layer to all arrangments and was a true virtuoso.
    Even Zappa was impressed, and he always hired
    already the best studio & live musicians.

    Play 'Sofa1' & 'Sofa2' & 'Inca Roads" at full volume
    with all verandah doors open to let your neighbours
    know what real 'Hifi' is - now they understand the
    difference between smartphone sound and true sound.

    Lyrics are the salt on the pepper as heard in:

    Absolutely Free - Any Way The Wind Blows
    Camarillo Brillo - Cosmik Debris -
    Fine Girl - Florentine Pogen - Montana
    Muffin Man - Nanook Rubs It
    Po-Jama People - San Ber'dino - Valley girl
    Let's Make The Water Turn Black

    and don't you touch that deadly yellow snow!

    Arf! she said...




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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe


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  • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
    hahaha, "and i can play my nose..."

    he looked a bit like Tesla at that time

    good PR, thats how you get on any TV show
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  • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
    "run-of-the-mill hillbilly horse shit."

    LOL. Have to start a swipe file and collect those limlicks....

    No, totally undervalued, Johnny Cash is the real Johannes Bargeld
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  • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
    With the oil of Aphrodite,
    and the dust of the Grand Wazoo
    He said "You might not believe this, little fella
    But it'll cure your asthma too"

    And now to a little urban poem a la Original Franz:




    What's the ugliest part

    --------> of your body?



    ...some say your nose


    ....some say your toes...

    ....

    ...

    ..

    .

    I think it's your MIND!

    ALL YOUR CHILDREN ARE POOR
    UNFORTUNATE VICTIMS OF
    SYSTEMS BEYOND THEIR
    CONTROL
    A PLAGUE UPON YOUR
    IGNORANCE & THE GRAY
    DESPAIR OF YOUR UGLY LIFE

    Where did Annie go
    When she went to town?
    Who are all those creeps
    That she brings around?

    ALL YOUR CHILDREN ARE POOR
    UNFORTUNATE VICTIMS OF LIES
    YOU BELIEVE
    A PLAGUE UPON YOUR
    IGNORANCE THAT KEEPS
    THE YOUNG FROM THE TRUTH
    THEY DESERVE...
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    Oh, and BTW, the best thing Zappa recorded was the Hot Rats album.
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    • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      Oh, and BTW, the best thing Zappa recorded was the Hot Rats album.
      well he started it off with: Peaches En Regalia

      that is nowadays teaching material for universities

      in contemporary composing

      i love that tune, simply classic!
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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by George Schwab View Post

        well he started it off with: Peaches En Regalia

        that is nowadays teaching material for universities

        in contemporary composing

        i love that tune, simply classic!
        Peaches..., Willie The Pimp, The Gumbo Variations, and so on. There isn't a dud moment on the whole album.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
    thanks, i will want to rediscover it, now, for realzz



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  • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
    Franky was always a bit....ahead of us.....:

    "The first word in this song is discorporate.
    It means: to leave your body

    Discorporate & come with me
    Shifting; drifting
    Cloudless; starless
    Velvet valleys & a sapphire
    Sea: wah wah

    Unbind your mind
    There is no time
    To lick your stamps
    And paste them in
    Discorporate
    And we will begin...wah wah!

    Flower power sucks!'
    ---

    LOL. It;s not complicated, is it?
    It is? Consider this:

    ---

    "Some people's hot
    Some people's cold
    Some people's not very
    Swift to behold
    Some people do it
    Some see right through it
    Some wear pyjamas
    If only they knew it?"
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  • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
    one more, it's a hypnotic sing along karaoke that doesnt
    want to leave my mind since 3 days, mothers of invention:


    Now believe me when I tell you that my song is really true
    I want everyone to listen and believe
    It's about some little people from a long time ago
    And all the things the neighbors didn't know

    Early in the morning Daddy Dinky went to work
    Selling lamps & chairs to San Ber'dino squares
    And I still remember Mama with her apron & her pad
    Feeding all the boys at Ed's Cafe!

    Whizzing & pasting & pooting through the day
    (Ronnie helping Kenny helping burn his poots away!)
    And all the while on a shelf in the shed:
    KENNY'S LITTLE CREATURES ON DISPLAY!

    Ronnie saves his numies on a window in his room
    (A marvel to be seen: dysentery green)
    While Kenny & his buddies had a game out in the back:
    LET'S MAKE THE WATER TURN BLACK

    We see them after school in a world of their own
    (To some it might seem creepy what they do...)
    The neighbors on the right sat & watched them every night
    (I bet you'd do the same if they was you)

    Whizzing & pasting & pooting through the day
    (Ronnie helping Kenny helping burn his poots away!)
    And all the while on a shelf in the shed:
    KENNY'S LITTLE CREATURES ON DISPLAY!

    Ronnie's in the Army now & Kenny's taking pills
    Oh! How they yearn to see a bomber burn!
    Color flashing, thunder crashing, dynamite machine!
    (Wait till the fire turns green...
    wait till the fire turns green)
    WAIT TILL THE FIRE TURNS GREEN!
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