value of religious teachings or ethics

by shubh
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Most people ignore religious teachings or ethics for gaining professional or personal business growth. Is it right or wrong seeing modern age of competition?
  • Profile picture of the author acrasial
    Well it depends what kind of religion you are speaking about... the sticky tells us not to talk about religion or politics- especially here...

    So you are on a very touchy subject-

    Competition is competition- heck, even in a certain *book* caine killed abel... that was some competition right there... so talking on the basis of right or wrong with competition- I don't think there is anything modern to it, competition is and always was a form of rivalry.

    some people are driven by rivalry anyways, and if it helps them get ahead, and if it motivates them- then power to them, because they found something they are passionate about.

    But honestly, the best thing is to simply compete with yourself, and then you will see many things in an entirely different perspective.

    But as well, religion and ethics are both something which we learn... and where did we learn it from...other people! Where did those people learn it from... other people as well!

    Even if it seems they have not learned it from others- such as a child growing up in a harsh and poor environment, who grows up to be a well established millionaire...

    That child still did not accept the way life was in the harsh environment, and learned that action was required to change it- so still people learn from others, so in that sense, what are ethics and religion anyways?

    Technically they are just a widespread idea of what something SHOULD BE, but we are free at any point and time in our life to change what we believe things should be, and take action on things. Some people just choose different methods to do that, but as someone said to me in another post, was that at the end of the day we are all quite similar and want the same things, we just have different methods of getting them.

    And there is another concept here, which you may consider- is that the true test of a man is not in his comfort, but rather when he is in adversity... so always sticking within the lines of religious ethics, and moral ethics- and always trying to be "good", avoiding problems, etc... will never even show you anything about that person truly either.

    So you have seen a man use some "not so pretty" tactics to get ahead, and have some personal gain, but trust me, you know more about that person- than you would about someone playing "goodie two shoes", and hiding behind a mask of "teachings".

    Also technically, knowledge is only good if put to use, so what are these so called "teachings", if they are not being used? Then nothing was taught, right? So then they would no even apply to that person in that moment, if they are NOT using what they know- be it religious ethics, respectful morals etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author kimvalerio05
    Ahm... I think as member of our society we must still apply in our life the good ethics. I understand some people who are getting very busy to their works but to be a good example to the next generation I guess it is very important that we don't ignore religious teaching or ethics.
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  • Profile picture of the author HomeComputerGames
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    • Profile picture of the author barbling
      Life's too short not to treat others the way I want to be treated.
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      • Profile picture of the author acrasial
        Originally Posted by barbling View Post

        Life's too short not to treat others the way I want to be treated.

        ahaha treat others as THEY want to be treated- because not everyone's ideas match on what being "treated" is in the firstplace...

        But then again, you are right... can't be a people pleaser!
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Originally Posted by shubh View Post

    Most people ignore religious teachings or ethics for gaining professional or personal business growth. Is it right or wrong seeing modern age of competition?
    I disagree with the entire premise of your comment.

    Most people do NOT ignore their personal religious or moral teachings to get ahead. Most people are good, and honest.

    In fact, if you chose to ignore such teachings, then you are not experiencing real growth of any kind.

    To answer your question, of course it's wrong, regardless of the justification.

    All the best,
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    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
      This is an illegal topic here, so don't be surprised when it vanishes.

      Perhaps you should edit the title to just reflect 'ethics'.

      Just saying...

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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Adding my two cents.

    While the OP mentions religion, it doesn't seem like this is really a discussion ABOUT religion. There's no discussion about whose religion is better or worse. For this discussion it doesn't matter what any person's beliefs are, therefore it fails to meet the criteria for the ban on such topics. Namely, hating on each other's political or religious views.

    So, it doesn't bother me, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it get zapped.

    All the best,
    Michael
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    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
      Agreed, but Steve hasn't posted to this thread yet, so all bets are off at this stage.

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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

        Agreed, but Steve hasn't posted to this thread yet, so all bets are off at this stage.

        KJ
        HEY, WHY BLAME ME!?!?!? Is it MY fault some post on the periphery, and have it TEETERING, And I knock it off!?!? I TRY to keep my "mouth" shut. I didn't even say anything in that kennedy thread.

        I DO agree with Michael Oksa in that this doesn't REALLY talk about religion. And, let's face it, and I am talking ALL religions here whether it be christian, catholic, jewish, muslim, hindu, wicca, atheist(In a way, it IS a religion), etc.... all have people TEACHING to do VERY bad things, as well as some teaching very good things. I will leave it at that to avoid locks. 8-)

        I WISH I could be as trusting of humanity as a whole like Michael Oksa claims to be, but I have seen WAY too much bad in this world.

        And I can agree somewhat with vagabondette's line of reasoning. If someone knows SO little about something though, they shouldn't promote it! Those services go ALL the way from giving you some sound advice that costs little, to ways to rip people off, and get off scott free with NO monetary payment, outside of a potentially large fee to them(that may be CHARGED), and have your credit wiped out and who knows how many others will lose their shirts?

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author vagabondette
    I don't agree that most do. Some do. Some people also just aren't educated enough on a topic to understand that what they're promoting could be considered ethically questionable if not down right bad.

    For example, I have a few financial sites that earn decent money. I could earn even more money if I would promote affiliate products for debt consolidation or cash advance companies but as a financial professional I'm ethically against those products because I've seen first hand just how much damage they can do.

    Someone who hasn't seen that damage may not realize just how dangerous some of those products can be (can you say 600% interest?!) so they'll promote them because there's a demand and they pay well.

    Some others just don't care about how bad a product might be they just care about the money. Those aren't typically people I'd choose to do business with.

    It would be nice sometimes if I wasn't driven by my ethics...I'd make a lot more money. But, I'd like myself a lot less so it's just not worth it to me.
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