Physicists create synthetic magnetic monopole

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Yes, finally, scientists cracked it, this opens up the door to magnets generating electricity for hundreds of years, (or forever if one person is involved) and magnetic trains that require no electrical current for levitation.


https://phys.org/news/2014-01-physic...ole-years.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSDoIf5FY2s









Obviously cost is probably the big question mark, pretty useless to create something that powers a house forever if it costs a million or two.


But creating something that will spin for the rest of your life, (taking into account maintenance) is now Officially possible.


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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    Since you're in the habit of copying and pasting threads across a multiple of forums, I can only respond in kind.

    So here goes:

    Seriously?

    Mag Lev trains have been around for decades. The concept was first patented in 1905. The very first working model was used in Germany in 1979. Britain had one in operation between 1984 and 1995. Japan has had two of them in operation since 1969, and they are still going.

    Other countries which have had, or still have these type of trains in operation include Canada, South Korea and China.

    The proposed High Speed Rail (HSR) link between Brisbane and Melbourne (via Sydney and Canberra) will use Mag Lev technology.

    On the subject of perpetual power for a house, why the phuck would someone install this as yet unproven technology when a combination of solar panels and storage batteries will do the same job NOW!!! Something which relies on moving parts will always be prone to wear and tear and costly maintenance. Solar/batteries have no moving parts and therefore no chance of mechanical breakdown.

    And before you bring up the myth that solar panels need to be replaced every 25 years or so, I call bullspit on that as well. At the ancestral home of the Whatty tribe (ie my parent's house), they've had a solar hot water system installed since 1981. They still have the same panels on the roof as they did then. That's 36 years (and counting) with no need for any replacements.

    Even if they do need to be replaced every quarter century (or so), the cost of replacing them will be a mere fraction of the cost of installing it today. The price of solar panels is plummeting (not decreasing, or shrinking - plummeting). The same will have happen with battery technology, as it does with every other technology. It costs a lot at first, but once it reaches critical mass, the price goes into free fall.

    And even if they do stay the same price for the next 25 years, you'd have saved that much on electricity costs and then some, with solar/batteries to render that argument specious at best, and complete bollocks at worst.

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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    True, magnetic trains have been around for ages, but not one's that do not require an electrical current to levitate.

    The Melbourne, Brisbane one uses staged electrical current ones, or only electricifies the magnetic coils in sections to save money on electrifying the whole thing.

    And solar, and or wind, cannot handle base load generation, this can!

    Mass producing this material and retrofitting this to all of our Coal fired power plants, would solve the so called MMGW issue, as well as other issues he have in this country.

    But true we need to test this in an industrial setting, although the only unknown, is how long does the current last for?

    Typical estimates from physicists are 300 to 400 years for Rare Earth magnets, so something that gives us clean energy way past the coal needed to produce it.

    True, believing that solar/wind can supply reliable base load power, is science fiction, this is now science!

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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      And solar, and or wind, cannot handle base load generation, this can!
      Another favourite load of bollocks from the denialist crowd. If every house is self powered, base load power becomes utterly irrelevant.
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    https://www.nature.com/articles/natu...iflscience.com

    I know that this will be hard to read for some, probably impossible for a handful, but it shows step by step that this is not bogus, and is real.

    But l guess that spitting the dummy, or attacking the poster, will make this scary thing go away, lol!

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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    FFS.

    All they have at the moment is proof of concept. No working prototype on even a small scale.

    Get back to us when they have a working model on a scale big enough to actually power a house.

    Until then, you've got sweet FA.
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      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      FFS.

      All they have at the moment is proof of concept. No working prototype on even a small scale.

      Get back to us when they have a working model on a scale big enough to actually power a house.

      Until then, you've got sweet FA.
      Like these guys..

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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        Thanks for that. Haven't heard that in years. The early 70's, eh? When even the pop bands kicked ass.

        The Sweet are remembered as one of the premier glitter-rock bands of that era, however that track, and others prove that they were actually a great hard-rock band, and Mick Tucker was one of the most under-rated drummers ever.

        Great stuff, thanks again.
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