What are your thoughts on gambling?

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Do you like some poker, online casinos, etc?
  • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
    Originally Posted by trevordd View Post

    Do you like some poker, online casinos, etc?
    "A fool and his money are soon parted!"
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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

      "A fool and his money are soon parted!"
      "Fools and their money should never have got together in the first place." - Gordon Gekko.
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  • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
    i think about gambling every melbourne cup day
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by trevordd View Post

    Do you like some poker, online casinos, etc?
    I have tried online gambling, pokies are fun on occasion, but these days l tend to forget about those accounts for months and then use the free money they give me.

    The thing l hate about online is it is a pain to withdrawl, and the bonus deals make it next to impossible to win anything to withdrawl.

    But if l tried Roulette, the Bond method is the one l like to use.


    Originally Posted by hardraysnight View Post

    i think about gambling every melbourne cup day
    I think about kittens and string every cup day?

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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    What are your thoughts on gambling?
    I bet it's a bad idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bosslife007
    Hmmmm....gambling in my opinion is not good at all talking with experiance
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by Bosslife007 View Post

      Hmmmm....gambling in my opinion is not good at all talking with experiance
      "Hmmmm....spelling in my opinion is not good at all talking with experiance"

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      • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        "Hmmmm....spelling in my opinion is not good at all talking with experiance"

        Fixed
        Apparently, you also believe thinking is not good at all from my experience of reading your posts.
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        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
          Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

          Apparently, you also believe thinking is not good at all from my experience of reading your posts.
          Talking to me or him?
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          • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
            Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

            Talking to me or him?
            I don't know him, so I have no prior knowledge of his posts. You, however have a proven track record to refer to. lol

            Thank you.
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            • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
              Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

              I don't know him, so I have no prior knowledge of his posts. You, however have a proven track record to refer to. lol

              Thank you.
              Ahh, you mean solid, useful, meaningful and funny posts. I don't even need to think, it just flows naturally.
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        "Hmmmm....spelling in my opinion is not good at all talking with experiance"
        Dangerous road there, Mark.
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          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          Dangerous road there, Mark.
          What Typo guy do you take me for?
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  • Profile picture of the author myob
    Originally Posted by trevordd View Post

    What are your thoughts on gambling?
    Don't listen to advice from losers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by myob View Post

      Don't listen to advice from losers.
      And...equally...don't listen to advice from winners. It will make you think they know a "system", and they don't.

      Except poker.
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        And...equally...don't listen to advice from winners. It will make you think they know a "system", and they don't.

        Except poker.
        It's actually much easier to use my "system" of counting cards in blackjack than in poker.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bosslife007
    I have a condition and can't spell right...sorry
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  • Typos aside, I prefer gambollin' -- preferably through a wooded glade, alongside alla my bunny companions.
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

      Typos aside, I prefer gambollin' -- preferably through a wooded glade, alongside alla my bunny companions.
      Claude has Bunny Companions. The two legged breed that wear fishnets.
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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        Claude has Bunny Companions. The two legged breed that wear fishnets.
        Yes but the type of bunnies wearing fishnets that Claude meets at the Wooster Men's Bathhouse And Feather Boa Emporium are more likely to be plumbers, truck drivers or steel workers, and answer to the names of Chuck, Bill, Dave, or even J Edgar.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jefay
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    I like playing poker from time to time. It is pretty fun. I also play roulette and slots online on https://betat.co.uk/ I think it is a great way to spend long evenings. What do you think, guys?
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Back in Jan. 94' one of my good friends first took me to a Casino in Tunica,Mississippi.

    I was mesmerized by it. It was incredible almost toxic. The lights, bells, free drinks, scantily clad waitresses etc.etc..

    After about the 3rd time going, it became boring and unappealing.

    I go to one every now and then but nothing alluring like that first time.

    To me Vegas was so overrated. Gawd, why people like that place so much is beyond my comprehension. And this from a guy who loved to party in the past
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

      Back in Jan. 94' one of my good friends first took me to a Casino in Tunica,Mississippi.

      I was mesmerized by it. It was incredible almost toxic. The lights, bells, free drinks, scantily clad waitresses etc.etc..

      After about the 3rd time going, it became boring and unappealing.

      I go to one every now and then but nothing alluring like that first time.

      To me Vegas was so overrated. Gawd, why people like that place so much is beyond my comprehension. And this from a guy who loved to party in the past
      The Drive through drugs probably doesn't help.

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  • Profile picture of the author mrjackpowers
    My thoughts are...

    Ya' gotta know when to hold em.
    Know when to fold em.
    Know when to walk away and know when to run.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by mrjackpowers View Post

      My thoughts are...

      Ya' gotta know when to hold em.
      Know when to fold em.
      Know when to walk away and know when to run.
      Interesting. Any other dating advice?
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by mrjackpowers View Post

        My thoughts are...

        Ya' gotta know when to hold em.
        Know when to fold em.
        Know when to walk away and know when to run.
        Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

        Interesting. Any other dating advice?
        Yes, don't try folding women until you've done your research. Folding them incorrectly can cause health problems. It's best to take a Folding Women class at your local college.

        PS - I expect Claude will show up and make a joke about origami soon, only he'll probably misspell origami.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          Yes, don't try folding women until you've done your research. Folding them incorrectly can cause health problems. It's best to take a Folding Women class at your local college.

          PS - I expect Claude will show up and make a joke about origami soon, only he'll probably misspell origami.
          You know what they say, a woman folded is only half the problem.
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            Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

            You know what they say, a woman folded is only half the problem.
            Death by Origomi.
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            • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              Death by Origomi.
              You have a lot of folds, in rolls of flab.

              That's where the famous rhyme came from: "Claude's a troll, foldy roll, Claudes a troll, foldy roll, Claudes a troll, foldy roll, and he'll eat just about anything for his supper"
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                Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                You have a lot of folds, in rolls of flab.

                That's where the famous rhyme came from: "Claude's a troll, foldy roll, Claudes a troll, foldy roll, Claudes a troll, foldy roll, and he'll eat just about anything for his supper"
                Even if Claude has to pay a Toll
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                • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                  Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

                  Even if Claude has to pay a Toll
                  Not possible. The cobwebs pretty much keep his wallet glued shut.
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  • Profile picture of the author Carlos Jane
    Nope, not a real lover of poker.
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  • Profile picture of the author wentzco
    Years back when online poker was an option to play in all of the US - I jumped in. It was quite a learning experience & I lost money initially. However I learned fairly quickly that playing less hands was the route to go - play only quality hands & be patient. My favorite was $10-$50 entry fee ten person tourneys with payout to the top 3 players - because they would end within 35-45 minutes or so. I also would enter tourneys with 100-400 people but they were very time consuming taking 3-4 hours. I remember one time entering a $20 tourney that had over 300 people in it & then I lost my Internet connection for about 1 1/2 hours... thusly folding every hand I was in. When I finally rejoined - half of the people were gone & I ended up finishing 2nd or 3rd place. Again playing less hands seemed to work out even though I'm sure I folded many good ones. When US laws started prohibited online gambling & funding/cashing out was looking questionable - I cashed out a nice 4 figure amount & hadn't played since then. Poker is a skill game so you acn put the odds in your favor IMO. If I were to gamble again then online poker would be my choice if I had access to it at home.

    30 years ago I played a lot of blackjack locally as charitable gaming is legal in North Dakota. I did good in blackjack but then often would waste my winnings or more playing the jars. I was more compulsive when I was younger but was smart enough to realize I was spending to much time gambling in the bars & stopped except for a rare occasion. I also played Bingo on occasion.

    I never had good results playing slot machines.

    The reality is that when I started investing in domain names 18 years ago - it was & is a gamble. Some purchases have paid off, many did not & I took losses by letting them expire, others I still hold but won't fold them.
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  • Profile picture of the author mantapjaya
    if you are happy yan please play gambling
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  • Profile picture of the author mdn70160
    hard question to answer! I think as a recovering CG you will always have thoughts of gambling or memories of it. Like last night for example, I was watching the Liverpool v Man U game and in the first 30 minutes a lot of tackles were flying in but the referee wasn't producing any cards. My mind thought about the bookings markets, something I used to bet on. I didn't look at any prices, but I suppose it would have been the next step. Within 10 minutes two bookings then half time. I then took a shower and had no interest at all in the 2nd half. Not a nice feeling to be honest and a little disappointed in myself. But hey the result was the correct one, I'm still gamble free and that's what we aim for everyday.

    Even general chit-chat amongst non-gambling folk regarding sport can include the word "bet" for example "I bet they'll win". Even my wife says it when watching X-Fator, I try not to! It's hard for me, even now not to think I'd have wagered money on a certain game due to the circumstances. I'm no way near wanting or needing to bet but these are completely different emotions to "having thoughts about gambling." Probably most of my thoughts on the subject matter sicken me for the damage I've done.
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  • Profile picture of the author emilia clarke
    I've very recently quit gambling so it s still very fresh on my mind. I remember from previous attempts after a few months being gamble free, I'd see odds of something in the bookies window or in the paper and think to myself "would it be great to stick X amount on that". Or if teams that I used to back frequently were winning, I'd feel like I had lost money n the fact that I hadn't had a bet on. I'd normally be betting again soon after, to try and make up the money that I hadn't even lost (sounds bloody ridiculous I know)
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  • Profile picture of the author IWillBeACPAGod
    If you're happy losing money, gambling is the best way to go
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  • Profile picture of the author tritrain
    It's only fun when your winning.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adelsten
    The thing l hate about online is it is a pain to withdrawl, and the bonus deals make it next to impossible to win anything to withdrawl
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  • Profile picture of the author guy81
    Nothing wrong with a flutter every now and then, although i couldnt be a career gambler
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Not a fan really. I have too few vices
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  • Profile picture of the author MidelSunRise
    a good way to get additional money
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg Schlies
    Now a day; I have seen that young generation is fond of gambling at an increasing rate. And many young people are using online as a good source of it. I will say why are you engaging in gambling when you have immense opportunities to earn money via online? One such field of online earning is forex trading. As we all know, forex market is a virtual, online trading platform where trader can exchange currencies and earn profit from successful trading.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Greg Schlies View Post

      Now a day; I have seen that young generation is fond of gambling at an increasing rate. And many young people are using online as a good source of it. I will say why are you engaging in gambling when you have immense opportunities to earn money via online? One such field of online earning is forex trading. As we all know, forex market is a virtual, online trading platform where trader can exchange currencies and earn profit from successful trading.
      Probably because it is quick and easy, and online is hard and slow.

      And Casino's hope that you think that systems are possible, Roulette being a key example.

      I have researched roulette, and patterns do occur, but typically not long enough to capatalize on it.

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  • Profile picture of the author TyreneJones
    Generally a bad idea. I might do one round on a slot machine in Vegas just for the ~experience~, but generally it's not smart. People lose houses over it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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    I could double your Online Profits real fast ... Put it on Red!
    (Hehe)
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

      I could double your Online Profits real fast ... Put it on Red!
      (Hehe)
      Red, nah, black is much better!

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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Red, nah, black is much better!

        We are still talking about gambling?
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        • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
          You win some and you lose some. Ask any professional gambler and they will tell you that in the end, the best they can hope for is to break even. Few do.
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          • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
            Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

            Few do.
            But ... but ... psychics ... lottery numbers ...
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            • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
              Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

              But ... but ... psychics ... lottery numbers ...
              No such animal, exists.
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            • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
              Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

              But ... but ... psychics ... lottery numbers ...
              I have predicted and written down the winning lottery numbers for the next TX Powerball draw. I have sealed them in an envelope and will keep it at home. I will open that envelope and type the numbers into this thread the day after the draw.

              Just to show that theirs no tomfoolery, my cat will be guarding the envelope and verifying the numbers as I type them in.
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              • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
                Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                I have predicted and written down the winning lottery numbers for the next TX Powerball draw. I have sealed them in an envelope and will keep it at home. I will open that envelope and type the numbers into this thread the day after the draw.

                Just to show that theirs no tomfoolery, my cat will be guarding the envelope and verifying the numbers as I type them in.
                We can all trust that process.

                If, sorry, when you win, remember who your mates are. I accept paypal, wire transfers, etc.
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

          But ... but ... psychics ... lottery numbers ...
          Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

          No such animal, exists.
          Ok, guys l have to get serious here...

          http://https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-e...shire-44493221

          Move over Psychic Squid, now we have Mystic Micro Pig.

          Upstaged by a Squid and Pig, sigh!

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        • Profile picture of the author JohnnyNight
          Wow..!!

          Just found this..

          The Gambler Who Cracked the Horse-Racing Code

          Bill Benter did the impossible: He wrote an algorithm that couldn't lose at the track. Close to a billion dollars later, he tells his story for the first time.

          https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...se-racing-code
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by JohnnyNight View Post

            Wow..!!

            Just found this..

            The Gambler Who Cracked the Horse-Racing Code

            Bill Benter did the impossible: He wrote an algorithm that couldn't lose at the track. Close to a billion dollars later, he tells his story for the first time.

            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...se-racing-code





            That's a very interesting story.

            The cool part is, they wouldn't have to place a single bet in order to test/tweak the algo. since the betting results are public info.






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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    I enjoy video poker if I'm in a casino. I take in the money I want to blow and walk away when it's gone.

    But I never play online. Too readily available.

    I also enjoy a glass of wine in the evening but I stop with one.

    It's important to know your limits and your weaknesses.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sunil Healthcare
    Not a good idea. One should not waste the preciously earned money.
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  • Profile picture of the author anaeve38
    I did go to casinos in Vegas and Monte Carlo just because you can't go there and not gamble :-)
    But I wouldn't otherwise, it is a dangerous thing if you can't control it.
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  • Profile picture of the author erin31
    Better to stay away from gambling.
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by erin31 View Post

      Best to stay away from gambling.
      Edited for declarative accuracy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Hughes
    We all know that to gain success, always involves risk! But that much risk is not for me. If you have a stupid amount of money that can be lost and you wouldn't really notice it gone, then heck why not. But saying that I have known people in that situation and it still ended badly, due to becoming addicted!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gronie
    Gambling is part of the human life so nothing is wrong with it.
    It only depends on the person who deals with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
    I only play Russian Roulette - so far, I've never lost.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by IGotMine View Post

      I only play Russian Roulette - so far, I've never lost.
      Claude plays that also, and he stills hasn't used up his 9 lives!

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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by IGotMine View Post

      I only play Russian Roulette - so far, I've never lost.
      And when you do, we will never get to hear about it.
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        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        And when you do, we will never get to hear about it.
        He won't remember it anyway?
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          Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

          He won't remember it anyway?
          Remember what?
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          • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            Remember what?
            I forget?..............
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by IGotMine View Post

      I only play Russian Roulette - so far, I've never lost.
      I wish you great success in the immediate future. :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by IGotMine View Post

      I only play Russian Roulette - so far, I've never lost.
      Now that's the kind of "follow me" thread I'd like to see.
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  • Profile picture of the author phantomhackers
    I highly dont agree with gambling, it is addictive and wastage of time and money.
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  • Profile picture of the author jgas
    I try to stay away from them!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sinclar
    The only good thing I see coming from gambling is when someone actually wins. Whether it's poker, lottery,slot machines, and others of course. Who wouldn't want to win some mad cash? Also I like to watch some casino streams and videos like this
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  • Profile picture of the author patrickvfisher
    Waste of money ! waste of time !
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    Never had interest in those card games or slots. But, i used to spen a lot of money on the Noel Edmunds mystery box game quiz thing (what's that TV show called? It's with Howie Mandel in the US) - you pick boxes and swap boxes and put money in. Spent hundreds never won anythign lol

    waste of time.
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    Bet 50% on red and 50% on black.

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    Please don't do the math.
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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Bet 50% on red and 50% on black.

      Easy win?





















      Please don't do the math.
      What about the green numbers (0 and sometimes 00)?
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  • Profile picture of the author 100jancic
    I would separate poker from casinos... While casinos are mostly gambling, I wouldn't say for professional poker players that they are gamblers... It's a skill that can be learned if you got talent for it.
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by 100jancic View Post

      I would separate poker from casinos... While casinos are mostly gambling, I wouldn't say for professional poker players that they are gamblers... It's a skill that can be learned if you got talent for it.
      Regardless. They are still gambling, unless they are guaranteed to win.

      Definition: take risky action in the hope of a desired result.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        Regardless. They are still gambling, unless they are guaranteed to win.

        Definition: take risky action in the hope of a desired result.
        By that definition, starting your own business is gambling.

        Of course, so is putting your hand near Claude's mouth during one of his many feedings.
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        • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          By that definition, starting your own business is gambling.
          Of course it's gambling - with your time, your money and your psychological well-being. Are there any guarantees of success? Most things in life are a gamble. Ask anyone on their 4th marriage.

          Of course, so is putting your hand near Claude's mouth during one of his many feedings.
          No gamble, there. Kiss your hand, goodbye. The guy has never said no to a meal.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
            Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

            Of course it's gambling - with your time, your money and your psychological well-being. Are there any guarantees of success? Most things in life are a gamble. Ask anyone on their 4th marriage.
            Then getting out of bed in the morning is gambling. Ergo, the word has no meaning.
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            • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
              Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

              Then getting out of bed in the morning is gambling.
              Agreed.

              Ergo, the word has no meaning.
              About as much meaning as life, itself.
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

              Then getting out of bed in the morning is gambling. Ergo, the word has no meaning.
              None of your words have any meaning.
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              • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                None of your words have any meaning.
                Let's test your theory:

                Claude Whitacre.



                I'll be damned. You're right.
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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post




                  I'll be damned........You're right.
                  Two completely true statements.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    None of your words have any meaning.
                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    Two completely true statements.
                    Well, which is it, Mr. Logic?
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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                  By that definition, starting your own business is gambling.

                  Of course, so is putting your hand near Claude's mouth during one of his many feedings.
                  True, Cinnamon donuts and hands all look the same.

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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  A friend of mine was telling me how he bet on sports. He also told me that his bookie gets 10% and it costs him $25 a day for a sports betting service he subscribes to.

                  I did a little math and told him that at $500 a day, he had to win 65% of the bets...just to break even. A virtual impossibility.
                  But it didn't matter...like everyone, he thinks he has a "system".

                  He did have a system...on how to go into debt, lose your home, and get a divorce. The endorphin high of gambling was too much to resist.
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                  • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    He did have a system...on how to get a divorce.
                    I see major recouping of losses with a simple Udemy course.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    A friend of mine was telling me how he bet on sports. He also told me that his bookie gets 10% and it costs him $25 a day for a sports betting service he subscribes to.

                    I did a little math and told him that at $500 a day, he had to win 65% of the bets...just to break even. A virtual impossibility.
                    But it didn't matter...like everyone, he thinks he has a "system".

                    He did have a system...on how to go into debt, lose your home, and get a divorce. The endorphin high of gambling was too much to resist.
                    Everybody claims to have a winning system. Over the years of living in Las Vegas I knew many degenerate gamblers claiming to be winners. When put to the test I only know one person that actually won. He used a valid system in blackjack called "Wonging", named after the famed gambling expert Stanford Wong.

                    However, in the years since, Las Vegas casinos have banned the ability to Wong. Basically, it was observing as a bystander keeping a "count" then only enter the game when the count was at a very high positive count. He would count two tables at once, keeping the count on his fingers hidden in his pants pockets.

                    The only other time where "maybe" someone had a system where he may have won is a guy that claimed he only bet on Ivy League college football. He only watched these few teams so he knew them very well. His theory was that Ivy League players were very smart and didn't make mistakes, so he only had to focus on talent. In the short time I tracked him, he was ahead, but it wasn't long enough to be absolutely proven.

                    There was a cab driver that won $250,000 on a progressive video poker machine and quit his job as a cab driver. 3 months after he won I'm driving to the "yard" and there he is, walking to work. He didn't even have a car by then.

                    I won a bit at counting cards, but I studied my butt off, reading every book I could and learning every trick in the book, like being able to read the creases of the cards to get a tell to if the dealer had a high card and reading the reflection of cards as the dealer put the cut card into the discard tray to get every bit of info I could.

                    I haven't played in 20 years, I found IM to be a better use of my time, and I understand casinos have changed many of the things I used to use to get an edge. There's a good chance if something helps the player the casinos will counter it in some way. That's what they do.

                    Yep, everyone's a winner until you actually track their results.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
                      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                      Everybody claims to have a winning system. Over the years of living in Las Vegas I knew many degenerate gamblers claiming to be winners. When put to the test I only know one person that actually won. He used a valid system in blackjack called "Wonging", named after the famed gambling expert Stanford Wong.

                      However, in the years since, Las Vegas casinos have banned the ability to Wong. Basically, it was observing as a bystander keeping a "count" then only enter the game when the count was at a very high positive count. He would count two tables at once, keeping the count on his fingers hidden in his pants pockets.

                      The only other time where "maybe" someone had a system where he may have won is a guy that claimed he only bet on Ivy League college football. He only watched these few teams so he knew them very well. His theory was that Ivy League players were very smart and didn't make mistakes, so he only had to focus on talent. In the short time I tracked him, he was ahead, but it wasn't long enough to be absolutely proven.

                      There was a cab driver that won $250,000 on a progressive video poker machine and quit his job as a cab driver. 3 months after he won I'm driving to the "yard" and there he is, walking to work. He didn't even have a car by then.

                      I won a bit at counting cards, but I studied my butt off, reading every book I could and learning every trick in the book, like being able to read the creases of the cards to get a tell to if the dealer had a high card and reading the reflection of cards as the dealer put the cut card into the discard tray to get every bit of info I could.

                      I haven't played in 20 years, I found IM to be a better use of my time, and I understand casinos have changed many of the things I used to use to get an edge. There's a good chance if something helps the player the casinos will counter it in some way. That's what they do.

                      Yep, everyone's a winner until you actually track their results.
                      Here's two examples of how casinos have countered things that work. They countered "wonging it" by not letting players enter a game mid-game. They now can only enter a game right after a shuttle.


                      My "read" of bends in cards - If a dealer had a 10 or ace showing, they would "peak" the under card to see if they had a blackjack. This would cause 10s and aces to sometimes get a slight bend in the reverse direction of the other cards. Sitting first or third base (first of last) you could get a good view of how the under card (hidden card) was bent.


                      Casinos countered this with only "peeking" aces. Then they introduced card readers that could read the undercard without the dealer peaking.


                      Casinos also introduced automatic shufflers. These speed up the game, but they also eliminate the ability of players to "shuffle track" which is keeping track of large clumps of high or low cards.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                        Here's two examples of how casinos have countered things that work. They countered "wonging it" by not letting players enter a game mid-game. They now can only enter a game right after a shuttle.


                        My "read" of bends in cards - If a dealer had a 10 or ace showing, they would "peak" the under card to see if they had a blackjack. This would cause 10s and aces to sometimes get a slight bend in the reverse direction of the other cards. Sitting first or third base (first of last) you could get a good view of how the under card (hidden card) was bent.


                        Casinos countered this with only "peeking" aces. Then they introduced card readers that could read the undercard without the dealer peaking.


                        Casinos also introduced automatic shufflers. These speed up the game, but they also eliminate the ability of players to "shuffle track" which is keeping track of large clumps of high or low cards.
                        Two highly insightful posts...showing you have real knowledge of gambling in casinos.

                        But the fact that you quoted yourself makes me giggle a little.
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                • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                  As previously described. My slot method works well. $20.00 in, cash out immediately if your total goes above 20. Start again with a new 20. I cycle through 8, 20 dollar bills.

                  You may lose one completely but it is rare. The overall combined winnings of the rest still takes you ahead of what you started with.

                  I have done it many times and never lost. The best was 60 bucks profit, the worst was just 4 on a ships casino.

                  It's boring gambling but if you are just doing it for a modest profit, then you just repeat.

                  Sometimes I have gone down as low as $2.50 and recovered to above 20.

                  I just did not live near to a casino. Now, a new one has opened up an hours drive away.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
                    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                    As previously described. My slot method works well. $20.00 in, cash out immediately if your total goes above 20. Start again with a new 20. I cycle through 8, 20 dollar bills.

                    You may lose one completely but it is rare. The overall combined winnings of the rest still takes you ahead of what you started with.

                    I have done it many times and never lost. The best was 60 bucks profit, the worst was just 4 on a ships casino.

                    It's boring gambling but if you are just doing it for a modest profit, then you just repeat.

                    Sometimes I have gone down as low as $2.50 and recovered to above 20.

                    I just did not live near to a casino. Now, a new one has opened up an hours drive away.
                    Pure bullshit. It's a law of mathematics that no betting system can overcome a disadvantage. You're trying to convince people that 2 + 2 = 5.


                    I tell you what. I'll put 90 black marbles in a paper bag and 10 red ones. Every time you pull out a red marble, I'll pay you $1. Every time you pull out a black one you pay me $1. You can use any betting progression you want.


                    Betting is a single life-long gambling streak. The Odds Gods have no idea when you started or stopped a session and it has no effect on the odds of you pulling out a red marble. All that matters is there's 90 black marbles and 10 red ones (along with the payout which is even money in my example).
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                    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                      Pure bullshit. It's a law of mathematics that no betting system can overcome a disadvantage. You're trying to convince people that 2 + 2 = 5.


                      I tell you what. I'll put 90 black marbles in a paper bag and 10 red ones. Every time you pull out a red marble, I'll pay you $1. Every time you pull out a black one you pay me $1. You can use any betting progression you want.


                      Betting is a single life-long gambling streak. The Odds Gods have no idea when you started or stopped a session and it has no effect on the odds of you pulling out a red marble. All that matters is there's 90 black marbles and 10 red ones (along with the payout which is even money in my example).
                      I'm amazed at that response, both from you and Claude. The Marbles analogy is nothing to do with this, they are a 50/50 odd's thing.

                      Slot machines statistically give back 86 to 92 percent of your input. As to distribution of that return and ratio of that return and the time period, that is difficult to determine.

                      I suggest you try this out in a real casino, I have done so many times and it does work.
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                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                        I'm amazed at that response, both from you and Claude. The Marbles analogy is nothing to do with this, they are a 50/50 odd's thing.

                        Slot machines statistically give back 86 to 92 percent of your input. As to distribution of that return and ratio of that return and the time period, that is difficult to determine.

                        I suggest you try this out in a real casino, I have done so many times and it does work.
                        I hate to take sides here, but l did try your method, Mark and it didn't work.

                        Sometimes the room full of Pokies don't have much money in them, and no amount of effort will bring anything out, (this can also happen at Casino's with hundreds of machines).

                        I know only go on the days after a lot of people have blown a lot on them, and your system would work better, but on the days when they are dry, you could end up digging a deeper and deeper hole to stay above dept.

                        I have spent years trying several poker machine systems, but intimately none of them really worked.

                        I wish you luck, but have serious doubts.

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                        • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
                          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                          but intimately none of them really worked.
                          I believe you meant to say 'ultimately,' but either way, there's a very good reason for that.

                          To put it in scientific vernacular, "It's a boat load of crap."

                          These gambling myths never die, but the people that believe in them will eventually do so - and they'll be broke. There's is no glory in having to be buried in your local landfill. :-)
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                        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                          I hate to take sides here, but l did try your method, Mark and it didn't work.

                          Sometimes the room full of Pokies don't have much money in them, and no amount of effort will bring anything out, (this can also happen at Casino's with hundreds of machines).

                          I know only go on the days after a lot of people have blown a lot on them, and your system would work better, but on the days when they are dry, you could end up digging a deeper and deeper hole to stay above dept.

                          I have spent years trying several poker machine systems, but intimately none of them really worked.

                          I wish you luck, but have serious doubts.

                          I have no idea how Australian machines are set up. or what the odds are.
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                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                            Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                            I have no idea how Australian machines are set up. or what the odds are.
                            https://www.australiangambling.lv/explained/

                            Probably similar or the same as US ones, although we don't really have the pull a handle and three mechanical reels spin, (like in Diamonds are forever, etc) more alone the lines of mindlessly sit there and stare at the pretty graphics and hoping for the nice tune and total strangers congratulating you, even thought it is only a $2 profit.

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                            • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                              Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                              https://www.australiangambling.lv/explained/

                              Probably similar or the same as US ones, although we don't really have the pull a handle and three mechanical reels spin, (like in Diamonds are forever, etc) more alone the lines of mindlessly sit there and stare at the pretty graphics and hoping for the nice tune and total strangers congratulating you, even thought it is only a $2 profit.

                              The percentages are about the same but what are the payout's like compared with the US.

                              For example, I watched a guy win $2,600 on a 50 cent stake on a US machine. He got a big bonus round, a 100 free goes and got extra added.

                              If the Australian ones have a much lower maximum or a lot lower payout's, less bonus games etc.. then my system would not be as effective.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                    As previously described. My slot method works well. $20.00 in, cash out immediately if your total goes above 20. Start again with a new 20. I cycle through 8, 20 dollar bills.
                    .
                    It's a common myth. Cashing out...starting with a new $20...has no effect on the odds of winning, and no effect on how much the machine pays out.

                    Previous payouts have no effect on future payouts.
                    A similar myth is to stick with one machine because you think it will pay out...because you put so much money into it. Again, there is no pattern. Future payouts are not affected at all by past payouts.

                    I know it's counter intuitive...and goes against your experience, but it's true.
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                • Profile picture of the author allegandro
                  Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                  Regardless. They are still gambling, unless they are guaranteed to win.

                  Definition: take risky action in the hope of a desired result.

                  Most poker players gamble, but those who win consistently are not gamblers. Poker is a game of skill and mathematics. If that would not be so, then explain why you see so many known faces on final tables.

                  I'm a poker player and yes I lose sometimes, but I know if I play enough I will be always in plus because I'm better as most other players around me.
                  I won tournaments in 3 different countries and some times back to back, this can't be just luck. That means it's a skill.

                  So in my opinion poker is for me, not a gamble.

                  I'm not a fan of Blackjack, Roulette or Slots, because that is gambeling in my eyes.
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                  • Profile picture of the author MichaelQuinn
                    Originally Posted by allegandro View Post

                    Most poker players gamble, but those who win consistently are not gamblers. Poker is a game of skill and mathematics. If that would not be so, then explain why you see so many known faces on final tables.

                    I'm a poker player and yes I lose sometimes, but I know if I play enough I will be always in plus because I'm better as most other players around me.
                    I won tournaments in 3 different countries and some times back to back, this can't be just luck. That means it's a skill.

                    So in my opinion poker is for me, not a gamble.

                    I'm not a fan of Blackjack, Roulette or Slots, because that is gambeling in my eyes.
                    I completely agree that in this instance it's a skill. I think that it's the same for stock traders etc. I myself only gamble in the stock market because I don't have the skill or a process or formula for being successful a higher percentage of the time, but there are other people that certainly do. I think poker is no different. If you know what you're doing you're taking calculated risks, if you don't know what you're doing then yep, you're just gambling.
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        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          By that definition, starting your own business is gambling.

          Of course, so is putting your hand near Claude's mouth during one of his many feedings.
          I expect you would like to give Claude a Knuckle Sandwich
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  • Profile picture of the author Richa seth
    I think we earn good amount in gambling but those money lead us nowhere...The people who have money through gambling are less happy then others.I had my own experience.Me and my brother once got involved in this...We both earn handsome amount but those money led us nowhere...Whenever we are about to get payment before that some expenses where always ready at our doorstep.We get sick or something(like gadget) use to get spoil and our money were all getting spent on such expenses.We both once discussed that why all this happens with us...My brother said,since the day we are gambling we are not able to save money in our account let's quite this and check out our life...We seriously had no problems after quitting gambling.Now we are happy that we took such great decision before we get addicted or had some major issue in our life.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnnyNight
      Originally Posted by Richa seth View Post

      I think we earn good amount in gambling but those money lead us nowhere...The people who have money through gambling are less happy then others.I had my own experience.Me and my brother once got involved in this...We both earn handsome amount but those money led us nowhere...Whenever we are about to get payment before that some expenses where always ready at our doorstep.We get sick or something(like gadget) use to get spoil and our money were all getting spent on such expenses.We both once discussed that why all this happens with us...My brother said,since the day we are gambling we are not able to save money in our account let's quite this and check out our life...We seriously had no problems after quitting gambling.Now we are happy that we took such great decision before we get addicted or had some major issue in our life.
      Relax... You're taking this all too seriously...

      It can be fun way to spend some time for some people..
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  • Profile picture of the author salsym
    Originally Posted by trevordd View Post

    Do you like some poker, online casinos, etc?
    As long as you behave responsibly, gambling is fun and I enjoy it as the most enjoyable probability game. Just remember one fact, when you are given a chance to win, enjoy it and learn to know when to stop yourself. Believe me, you will never loose. When I start with $10 and get $20 at some stage, I know, I got my share in the game of probability and stop there. I have never lost dollars in gambling..
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    Knowing how addictive I am, I'm trying to avoid any gambling opportunities.
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by lambertson View Post

      Knowing how addictive I am, I'm trying to avoid any gambling opportunities.
      Yoda Speak Translation:

      Knowing how addictive I am, trying to avoid any gambling opportunities I am. Yes, hmmm.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Mitchell
    I occasionally play poker with my friends but not in casinos (online or offline) ... it's just a waste of money from my point of view
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by Mark Mitchell View Post

      I occasionally play poker with my friends but not in casinos (online or offline) ... it's just a waste of money from my point of view
      Not even any entertainment value from spending time with your friends engaging in mindless pursuits?

      There's always bowling.
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  • Profile picture of the author King Manu
    Gambling is a great way to lose your money. The only thing I like related to gambling is texas hold'em poker, because that's a game that implies a strategy, odd's counting, reading your opponent etc.

    Machines and games played with the dealer are made to favor the house. "The house always wins."
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    Personally, I do not gamble, but I am friends with someone that has a vested interest in casinos. I used to work for him in high school and even though he is very old we are stil long time friends. We used to SCUBA dive and now we enjoy playing chess together.


    Years ago, I did attend his wedding at one of his casinos. He was a much younger man. He married my x-high school girlfriend, lol. In a private setting, just before the ceremony, I asked him, "After all these years what made you finally decide to get married?" He replied something like "Honestly, she called my bluff. so I figured she would make me the luckiest man in the world, and you know I don't believe in luck." We laughed.


    He said he changed his mind..


    To this day, he thanks her "everyday" for making him the luckiest man in the world.
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  • Profile picture of the author Megoobume
    I like playing poker or making bets on sport sometimes, but you must be cold-headed all the time, otherwise your life could just ruin..
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  • Profile picture of the author bwjstreet
    Betting CAN be profitable, if done right. You need a strict set of rules to follow otherwise you'll come unstuck eventually.
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  • Profile picture of the author websolute9696
    it is time waste and useless .
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  • Profile picture of the author NikkiDi
    I think that this is a normal option for fun and sometimes making money. Although, like it, only a few earn on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaxFeerden
    I normally treat gambling, if they are legal) I myself love to play poker. Online casinos do not interest me, I love eye contact while playing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Huenelde
    I am gambling positively. My friends and I are going to play poker 2 times a month. For us, this is a great time to see and relax)
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  • Profile picture of the author himala01
    Used to play but felt that it wasn't suitable for me
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  • Personally I do like online poker but have not played it in a long time, am kind of "on hiatus" from participating, and don't really have the time these days. I was playing free online poker though. If I ever get really motivated I've been meaning to go somewhere for some live poker. The only poker game I like is no limit Texas Holdem.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelQuinn
    When I gamble it's in the stock market, that's about it lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaden Wilson
    Never been interested in that kind of things.
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  • Profile picture of the author Georgi Petrov
    Gambling is my life, and I really like all types of casino games, but I prefer slots.
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  • Profile picture of the author MerleneNMS
    Gambling has been a form of entertainment and past time all around the world, ever since time immemorial. For people who are financially and emotionally capable of gambling, there is nothing wrong with going to casinos or gaming houses once in a while to reduce stress or find entertainment.

    But it is undeniable that there are a lot of cases of gambling addiction which has already affected the personal lives of the players. Responsible gambling should be observed at all times. It is never pleasant to gain the consequences of too much gambling such as a drained bank accounts, broken families and relationships, and being stuck with debts that are impossible to be paid.

    For gamers, it is fine to do gambling but also remember to do it responsibly and with accountability.
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  • Profile picture of the author Spandr
    Definitely a very big risk. You should play only for free money. It is important. Because there is a high probability of losing everything. Of course it is better to play in proven casinos
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