19 Reasons Why Wearing A Seatbelt Is The Dumbest Thing You Can Do

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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    Some of these people really need their Lic. Revoke ! Perfect reason for Uber or Waymo to exist. Next they will be flying the thing Shane posted in another thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

      Some of these people really need their Lic. Revoke ! Perfect reason for Uber or Waymo to exist. Next they will be flying the thing Shane posted in another thread.
      Exactly why I said flying cars were the stupidest idea ever.
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      Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

      SNext they will be flying the thing Shane posted in another thread.
      That's perfectly fine. At least I'll never have to worry about encountering those drivers on the road.
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      • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        That's perfectly fine. At least I'll never have to worry about encountering those drivers on the road.
        Yep but they may fall out of the sky. While they eat a Pizza from the back seat. Landing on top of your nice BMW, after you just got it washed and waxed.
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          Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

          Yep but they may fall out of the sky. While they eat a Pizza from the back seat. Landing on top of your nice BMW, after you just got it washed and waxed.
          I thought about that. It's a big world out there. I'll take my chances.

          Besides - BMW's high-end models have A.I.A.S. Aerial Intrusion Averting System.
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    Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

    You won't believe it, but it's all real.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/neve...nDL#.rdYG8OvMz

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    Great examples of why autonomous cars and aircraft are such smart ideas.
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Great examples of why autonomous cars and aircraft are such smart ideas.
      I have a feeling that a few of our resident deep-thinkers will think you are being sarcastic. Simply put, how could anyone in their right mean feel that way.
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Great examples of why autonomous cars and aircraft are such smart ideas.
      as i said in the other post ..once autonomous cars are a proven safe technology .. it will be made nearly illegal to drive your own care without proving no drug influence.. and the drive getting having to pass a safety checklist before being allowed to control the car ..

      but also a huge number of the reason people drive now will be eliminated ..by much smaller autonomous delivery vehicles
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

        as i said in the other post ..once autonomous cars are a proven safe technology .. it will be made nearly illegal to drive your own care without proving no drug influence.. and the drive getting having to pass a safety checklist before being allowed to control the car ..

        but also a huge number of the reason people drive now will be eliminated ..by much smaller autonomous delivery vehicles
        Proven safe, they won't.

        In fact when we see a lot of second hand autonomous cars being sold in the next ten years, then the deaths will pile up so high, that everyone will go for manual drone ones, just to get away from that.

        They will probably bring in legislation by 2030 banning second hand driver less cars, due to the high collision rates.

        No just because our current scientists keep watching iRobot, and Bladerunner, and getting off of that, doesn't mean that it is safe.

        Here is an example of how ...dangerous these things are.

        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...g-dangerously/

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        • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          Proven safe, they won't.

          In fact when we see a lot of second hand autonomous cars being sold in the next ten years, then the deaths will pile up so high, that everyone will go for manual drone ones, just to get away from that.

          They will probably bring in legislation by 2030 banning second hand driver less cars, due to the high collision rates.

          No just because our current scientists keep watching iRobot, and Bladerunner, and getting off of that, doesn't mean that it is safe.

          Here is an example of how ...dangerous these things are.

          https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...g-dangerously/

          That's easily handled with the instillation of radio frequency signal emission and gps mapping of stops along roadways. It will become the DOT's responsibility to maintain and update.

          My son is roughly 2 and a half. I can virtually guarantee he'll never have a driver's license.
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

            That's easily handled with the instillation of radio frequency signal emission and gps mapping of stops along roadways. It will become the DOT's responsibility to maintain and update.

            My son is roughly 2 and a half. I can virtually guarantee he'll never have a driver's license.
            No dan, that would mean that if the central computer malfunctions, while he is taking a nap while not driving in the middle of the desert, he has to break the law?

            Or be stuck there until someone else comes along.

            No tech, is 100% dependable.

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            • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
              Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

              No dan, that would mean that if the central computer malfunctions, while he is taking a nap while not driving in the middle of the desert, he has to break the law?

              Or be stuck there until someone else comes along.

              No tech, is 100% dependable.

              Most of the world's air traffic control is based on 1950's tech. The sky hasn't fallen yet.

              Any accidents caused by faulty tech will be more than offset by the lack of deaths that would have been caused by operator error. The decrease in drunk driving fatalities alone will cover anything you can come up with related to tech issues.

              If these vehicles were going to be hacked, it'd be happening right now rather than later when better safeguards for such activity will certainly be in place.
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              • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                Most of the world's air traffic control is based on 1950's tech. The sky hasn't fallen yet.

                Any accidents caused by faulty tech will be more than offset by the lack of deaths that would have been caused by operator error. The decrease in drunk driving fatalities alone will cover anything you can come up with related to tech issues.

                If these vehicles were going to be hacked, it'd be happening right now rather than later when better safeguards for such activity will certainly be in place.
                Why do you bother?
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                • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                  Why do you bother?
                  well in this case .. the intelligent argument may lost on shane.. but it is those of us in agreement trying to explain to shane .. who are having the worthwile conversation with each other ..
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                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                  Why do you bother?
                  That's rich. I've asked you the very same question - dozens of times. I've also told you to stop doing it. lol
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          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          Proven safe, they won't.

          In fact when we see a lot of second hand autonomous cars being sold in the next ten years, then the deaths will pile up so high, that everyone will go for manual drone ones, just to get away from that.

          They will probably bring in legislation by 2030 banning second hand driver less cars, due to the high collision rates.

          No just because our current scientists keep watching iRobot, and Bladerunner, and getting off of that, doesn't mean that it is safe.

          Here is an example of how ...dangerous these things are.

          https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...g-dangerously/

          OMG. lol This has to be a joke post. Please tell me it is!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Richa seth
    I am amazed with these pictures....How daring people are driving with half concentration.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    My son is roughly 2 and a half. I can virtually guarantee he'll never have a driver's license.

    I expect he will have a license - when has any govt said 'never mind - you don't need that paperwork - or to pay that fee'? It may be a 'land pilot' license....



    It will be a slow transition but there will be a transition. The biggest 'plus' will be a simple fact: computers won't be looking at a cell phone while they drive.
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

    Most of the world's air traffic control is based on 1950's tech. The sky hasn't fallen yet.

    Any accidents caused by faulty tech will be more than offset by the lack of deaths that would have been caused by operator error. The decrease in drunk driving fatalities alone will cover anything you can come up with related to tech issues.

    If these vehicles were going to be hacked, it'd be happening right now rather than later when better safeguards for such activity will certainly be in place.
    True, But planes do have very stringent safety checks, cars don't.

    And sure restricting this to drunks, etc could be effective, but offering this to the general public is a bad idea, unless stringent safety check and regular services are in place.

    I would think that it would be very hard to bring in leglislation to force everyone who buys one of these things to get it checked out at regular intervals?

    The crash in Arizona wasn't just a tragedy. The failure to see a pedestrian in low light was an avoidable basic error for a self-driving car. Autonomous vehicles should be able to do much more than that before they're allowed to be driven, even in tests, on the open road. Just like pharmaceutical companies, massive technology companies should be required to thoroughly - and ethically - test their systems before their self-driving cars serve or endanger the public.
    Self-driving cars can't be perfectly safe - what's good enough? 3 questions answered

    I agree the court is still out, and it seems that l am not the only one that believes that it is roll it out asap, and to hell with what happens.

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    • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      I agree the court is still out, and it seems that l am not the only one that believes that it is roll it out asap, and to hell with what happens.
      There seems to be no real rush to get them out the door. A lot of testing is going on and several states already have laws regrauding self driving cars.
      http://www.ncsl.org/research/transpo...gislation.aspx Sure the feds will be creating a National Standard later down the road. Seems most of the testing is taken place in warmer climates. Are there any being tested in the Northern regions like Alaska where they are known to have Blizzards and white outs ?
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    Why do you bother?
    Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

    well in this case .. the intelligent argument may lost on shane.. but it is those of us in agreement trying to explain to shane .. who are having the worthwile conversation with each other ..
    Seems pretty intelligent so far, lol!
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      Seems pretty intelligent so far, lol!
      now i do not actually believe human driving cars will be outlawed . but with your line of thinking .. cars would have never been alowwed exist .. and considering how bad plane crases where when flight was first being developed .. passenger aircraft may never have been a thing ..

      in any case why do you think second hand autonomous cars would be less safe then brand new or first owner cars .. when it will be the same computer system or even upgraded software.. they should get safer year after year not less safe ..

      when one malfunctions and gets into an accident it is easy to figure that out program upgrade to the software and patch every vehicle .. something you can do with people .

      now and argument that autonomous cars may ocasional screw up and cause a fatality..from the same cause that cause thousand of fatalities every day with real human driver ..is not that scary .. if you can prove it will happen half as much.. as human driver.. and having autonomous cars .. eliminates accident from people talking on their cell phones , or texting .. or turning around to yell at the person behind them .. or any kind of drug influence ..

      people will still drive their own cars .. beople still mail real letters to people .. and or use landline phones ... and i think there are still bookstores to buy books from .. but no place to go rent a movie .. ..and newspapers and magazines are going bankrupt ..

      the transition will be slow as Kay said .. but then take into account all the things you need to jump in a car to do .. that you won't need people to jump in cars .. to do .. so your pizza delivery vehicle only has to be big enough to transport the pizza and keep it warm .. or bigg enough to carry a couple bags of groceries a mile or two ..
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Odahh View Post


    in any case why do you think second hand autonomous cars would be less safe then brand new or first owner cars .. when it will be the same computer system or even upgraded software.. they should get safer year after year not less safe ..

    .
    Because the sensors lose their integrity over time, as will the coatings. So l go down to my second hand Autonomous car lot, in 2027, and buy one with 20 external sensors, (all scratched, (the plastic shells) and all with less effective sensors behind them).

    About the only way that second hand ones could work, is if all second hand Aut, cars had the autonomous bits pulled out and brand new ones put in.

    I see that as a hard rule to enforce.

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