Stunning anti-ageing breakthrough could see humans live to 150 and regenerate organs by 2020

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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Shane; I'm just letting you know that a 7 year old has somehow got a hold of your forum account and is posting nonsense in your name.
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      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      Shane; I'm just letting you know that a 7 year old has somehow got a hold of your forum account and is posting nonsense in your name.
      How can you tell the difference?
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        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        How can you tell the difference?
        The 7 year-old spells all the words correctly. Even the big ones.
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      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post



      Here is a video of a brilliant discussion between Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson, and Brett Weinstein.
      No real reason to post it...

      But I think including it on the thread...and this forum in general...will help balance out the deficit of brain power exhibited here.
      At least it's a start.

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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Here is a video of a brilliant discussion between Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson, and Brett Weinstein.
        No real reason to post it...

        But I think including it on the thread...and this forum in general...will help balance out the deficit of brain power exhibited here.
        At least it's a start.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEf6X-FueMo&t=93s
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          So, we're now down to posting stuff from the Daily Mail huh?

          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          Yes, bias, connectivity in a senseless desirability as a conjectural interpretation is always a reason for a decline in moral intuition in a by spacial dimensional construct.
          I've read more legible sentences from the Princess after a vodka-binge.
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          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          Yes, bias, connectivity in a senseless desirability as a conjectural interpretation is always a reason for a decline in moral intuition in a by spacial dimensional construct.

          A perfect example of what a 4 year old thinks a smart adult sounds like.

          It's not even a sentence.
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          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          Yes, bias, connectivity in a senseless desirability as a conjectural interpretation is always a reason for a decline in moral intuition in a by spacial dimensional construct.
          Where is THAT copied and pasted from???
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            Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

            Where is THAT copied and pasted from???
            I actually did a search. It's not an exact cut and paste. He took all the big words out of an academic paragraph...and strung them together.

            It isn't a real sentence.
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            Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

            Where is THAT copied and pasted from???
            ever heard of google?
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              Originally Posted by hardraysnight View Post

              ever heard of google?
              Yeah, but I didn't want to know badly enough to actually go search for it. The question had no relevance beyond snark.
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          Hey try this product
          Hey! Try another forum. You're about to be banned, from this one.

          Edited to add. Dayumm - that was fast.
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    well run the numbers .. are there any 149 year olds this pill might add a year to in the next year ..

    i'm a life extension believer .. but it's still in the early stages and .. it's not going to be a better vitamine pill..

    multiple life changes .. top not diet ..specific types of excerises .. combined will medicle clensing and youthing treatments .. the cutting edge at this point .. is drawing blood or blood plasma from young people and injecting it in older people .. which seems to help older people regenerate better ..

    at some point tech will allow treatment of blood outside the body to cause the blood cells or plasma.. to mimic a younger state .. then be returned to the persons body ..

    but marketing is marketing .. so the one pill mericle life extension breakthroughs .. will be around every corner ..

    they is stuff we can do now .. to vastly increase the quality of out daily lives and delay the onset of degenerative diseases ..
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      well run the numbers .. are there any 149 year olds this pill might add a year to in the next year ..

      i'm a life extension believer .. but it's still in the early stages and .. it's not going to be a better vitamine pill..

      multiple life changes .. top not diet ..specific types of excerises .. combined will medicle clensing and youthing treatments .. the cutting edge at this point .. is drawing blood or blood plasma from young people and injecting it in older people .. which seems to help older people regenerate better ..

      at some point tech will allow treatment of blood outside the body to cause the blood cells or plasma.. to mimic a younger state .. then be returned to the persons body ..

      but marketing is marketing .. so the one pill mericle life extension breakthroughs .. will be around every corner ..

      they is stuff we can do now .. to vastly increase the quality of out daily lives and delay the onset of degenerative diseases ..
      Cells only divide so many times...until mistakes start happening. And that's why we age, and show the symptoms of aging. Our cells become less stable the more times they reproduce. Our genes simply start making mistakes.

      I'm not going to read the article, because the headline is nonsense. But if there is a way to keep our genes from degrading after repeated cell division...or a way to keep our cells from reproducing..we may be able to extend our lives. But so far, there seems to be a hard limit to how long a human can keep functioning...and it's at about 120 years.

      Of course, I'm ignoring all the evidence that vampires are real, or that we can become immortal through repeated time travel...you know...the Classics.
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Cells only divide so many times...until mistakes start happening. And that's why we age, and show the symptoms of aging. Our cells become less stable the more times they reproduce. Our genes simply start making mistakes.

        I'm not going to read the article, because the headline is nonsense. But if there is a way to keep our genes from degrading after repeated cell division...or a way to keep our cells from reproducing..we may be able to extend our lives. But so far, there seems to be a hard limit to how long a human can keep functioning...and it's at about 120 years.

        Of course, I'm ignoring all the evidence that vampires are real, or that we can become immortal through repeated time travel...you know...the Classics.
        "I'm not going to read the article, because the headline..."

        I'm not going to watch the James Randi video because the man is..."
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Cells only divide so many times...until mistakes start happening. And that's why we age, and show the symptoms of aging. Our cells become less stable the more times they reproduce. Our genes simply start making mistakes.

        I'm not going to read the article, because the headline is nonsense. But if there is a way to keep our genes from degrading after repeated cell division...or a way to keep our cells from reproducing..we may be able to extend our lives. But so far, there seems to be a hard limit to how long a human can keep functioning...and it's at about 120 years.

        Of course, I'm ignoring all the evidence that vampires are real, or that we can become immortal through repeated time travel...you know...the Classics.
        the article is hyped marketing for some special b vitamin supplement ..i don't believe vampires are real.. maybe people who drink blood .. but no immortality or special powers ..just human with murderous tastes ..

        we are at the beginning of the research for live extension ..10-20 year with any real attention to it ..and at this point with all the information why people get sick or develope degenerative diseases .. the best someone can really expect if they make the needed changes .. it to live healthy to about a hundred ..years old ..

        which means a big change to retirement expectation or career planning and so on.. if only a few percent of people can actually support themselves and live comfortable and happy lives after 70 .. there is no real point to live another 30 -70 years if your life sucks and you are dependent on some check from a government .. blah blah blah

        life extension is only really important if someone increases the quality of their lives and the meaning each day gives ..
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          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          the article is hyped marketing for some special b vitamin supplement ..i don't believe vampires are real.. maybe people who drink blood.
          My favorites are the people that drink, blood, urine and dare I say it, sperm. Look it up, my friends. It's for real.

          There's nothing like having a diverse culinary palette.
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            Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

            My favorites are the people that drink, blood, urine and dare I say it, sperm. Look it up, my friends. It's for real.

            There's nothing like having a diverse culinary palette.
            this is a life extension thread not a sexual fetish thread.. haha

            i can't comment .. i can.. but i can't ..no .. not the forum for that ...haha
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            Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

            My favorites are the people that drink, blood, urine and dare I say it, sperm. Look it up, my friends. It's for real.
            Someone used their guest pass to the Wooster Mens Bathhouse and Feather Boa Emporium...
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              Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

              Someone used their guest pass to the Wooster Mens Bathhouse and Feather Boa Emporium...
              Guest pass? No way! I borrowed your lifetime platinum membership card.

              Unfortunately, when I arrived, they said you had drank the place dry. :-)

              Next time - leave a little for someone, else - woodja?
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                Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                Next time - leave a little for someone, else - woodja?
                Sorry, I drank all the blood and urine. I left dessert for you, though.
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                  Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                  Sorry, I drank all the blood and urine. I left dessert for you, though.
                  I'm sure that was the first time you have ever done so and extremely difficult for you. Did they have to sedate you?

                  Was that desert in the form of an ice-cream cake? Spermy, the Whale?
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Cells only divide so many times...until mistakes start happening. And that's why we age, and show the symptoms of aging. Our cells become less stable the more times they reproduce. Our genes simply start making mistakes.

        I'm not going to read the article, because the headline is nonsense. But if there is a way to keep our genes from degrading after repeated cell division...or a way to keep our cells from reproducing..we may be able to extend our lives. But so far, there seems to be a hard limit to how long a human can keep functioning...and it's at about 120 years.

        Of course, I'm ignoring all the evidence that vampires are real, or that we can become immortal through repeated time travel...you know...the Classics.
        How can you -- or anyone living in the age of information -- not know!? EAT LESS, LIVE LONGER!


        https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-03431-x

        Slow down metabolism, slow down the cell division. Isn't that so painfully obvious?
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          Originally Posted by Star Man View Post

          How can you -- or anyone living in the age of information -- not know!? EAT LESS, LIVE LONGER!

          Michio Kaku: How to Reverse Aging - YouTube

          https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-03431-x

          Slow down metabolism, slow down the cell division. Isn't that so painfully obvious?
          if you want to live the rest of your life hungry .. maybe but is it worth living and .. the quality of the food you eat matters .. so if you have a bad diet and you eat less of the terrible food ..your health will improve over time .. but if you have a diet of high quality food that is loaded with proper micro nutrients and enzymes .. you will naturally stop eating when you have enough .. so there is no benefit to eating less if you have a high quality diet .

          poor quality food chemically flavored to taste like good food and chemically colored to look like good food ..and loaded with fat, sugar ,salt and cholesterol .. while lacking micro nutrients ,vitamins and enzymes are what needs to be taken out of the diet to improve health . not just to live longer ..
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            Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

            if you want to live the rest of your life hungry .. maybe but is it worth living and .. the quality of the food you eat matters .. so if you have a bad diet and you eat less of the terrible food ..your health will improve over time .. but if you have a diet of high quality food that is loaded with proper micro nutrients and enzymes .. you will naturally stop eating when you have enough .. so there is no benefit to eating less if you have a high quality diet .

            poor quality food chemically flavored to taste like good food and chemically colored to look like good food ..and loaded with fat, sugar ,salt and cholesterol .. while lacking micro nutrients ,vitamins and enzymes are what needs to be taken out of the diet to improve health . not just to live longer ..
            There are so many problems in this post that it probably doesn't even make sense to spend time pointing them out...

            ... perhaps just a few.

            1. "live the rest of your life hungry."
            Hungry? Who said hungry? Just don't frickin overeat.

            2. "you will naturally stop eating when you have enough"
            Do you even know how many different feedback mechanisms are in your body to signal your brain when you have enough? And how long will it take you to realize that you have enough after you actually had enough?

            3. " so there is no benefit to eating less if you have a high quality diet ."
            So you have conducted a study on this matter or you pulled this crap out of your intestine? Sorry, I keep forgetting, science is not needed if you have intuition, imagination, clairvoyance, etc.

            4. What the hell is "high quality diet?" Must be some sort of scientific term, I guess.
            Define your vision of high quality diet.

            5. The idea that you start with a healthy diet and apply the principle to it, is pretty much common sense and self-evident. So your straw man argument doesn't fly here. There's no sense in trying to improve on the junk food diet by eating less, or imply that the study concerned junk food. In that case you'll die from causes other than aging.

            6. "but is it worth living"
            Is it worth living to live longer?
            The silliest argument I've heard on this topic is -- but you only live once. Yeah, you only live once, so indeed why the hell would you want to extend your livespan? Eat garbage and eat a lot of it, because YOLO!
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              Originally Posted by Star Man View Post

              1. "live the rest of your life hungry."
              Hungry? Who said hungry? Just don't frickin overeat.

              2. "you will naturally stop eating when you have enough"
              Do you even know how many different feedback mechanisms are in your body to signal your brain when you have enough? And how long will it take you to realize that you have enough after you actually had enough?
              do you know that most people know that they are going to eat to much ..just looking at the amount of food on the plate and have trained themselves to finish eating before their body tells them to stop.. or just keep eating after their body tells them to stop .

              so you are right just don't over eat .

              and you quoted what i defined as poor quality .. so my bar for high quality is rather low.. just avoid eating food that only taste good because they are chemically flavored to look and taste good.. or artifically loaded with salt sugar and fat.. while having few nutrients vitamins and minerals ..
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            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            I knew about restricted caloric intake slowing down cell division. I also know about telomeres, and how they shorten with repeated cell division...

            But, restricted caloric intake has to be done early in life. The effects are greatly reduced if you start in middle age.
            And you know this because of intuition or psychic abilities. A study please?
            OR perhaps you are talking about the obvious. If you start at the age of 1..2 you can add 30 years (30% of 100 years) If you start at 50 you can add 15 years (30% of 50 years). That is OBVIOUS. What was your point besides this? You shouldn't even try?


            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            And the telomeres? Their life can already be lengthened dramatically. The problem is, the treatment also grow cancerous tumors. Maybe in the future.
            Red herring argument. Kaku did talk about telomerase, but that's not my point at all. In fact he said it too, that this isn't a solution.
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              Originally Posted by Star Man View Post

              And you know this because of intuition or psychic abilities. A study please?
              OR perhaps you are talking about the obvious. If you start at the age of 1..2 you can add 30 years (30% of 100 years) If you start at 50 you can add 15 years (30% of 50 years). That is OBVIOUS. What was your point besides this? You shouldn't even try?
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              I see I deleted my post too late.

              I had you on Ignore, and couldn't remember why. Now, I remember why.

              Enjoy your stay.
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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                I had you on Ignore, and couldn't remember why. Now, I remember why.
                That "Ignore" function is a thing of beauty, isn't it? lol
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    Claude Thanks for putting the second part of that up..i watched the firt part a week ago and my youtube didn't have the link to the second ..

    i watch a lot from jordan peterson when he is taking to other smart people and not so much when he is talking with reporters trying to play gotcha..

    it is interesting how he breaks down the stories in the bible and the reasoning in many of them..and i believe it was weinstein i was watching on a joe rogan podcast where he explain that kosher rules and several waste management practices in the old testament .. are valid with modern understanding of pathogens and other toxic accumulation in food or with human waste ..
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    80-90 years is enough if you do it right.

    I do get folks wanting to extend their lives but many live a miserable life so....WTF? LOL!

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      Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

      80-90 years is enough if you do it right.

      I do get folks wanting to extend their lives but many live a miserable life so....WTF? LOL!

      RB
      thats part of the reason i put in..if you focus on life extension you need to also greatly improve the quality of day to day life.. and how you will be productive or earn money through all those extra years ..

      no point in living on a retirement plan that has you below the poverty line ..so we are talking about something that is not only for wealthy people..but very healthy wealthy people who can also afford life extension treatment.. high quality food .. state of the art medical treatment ..

      who also don't have families dreaming of what to do with all the money they will inherit .when their rich relative finaly dies ..
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      Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

      I do get folks wanting to extend their lives but many live a miserable life so....WTF? LOL
      Lol. Good point Ryan. For some (many?) People knowing they could die at any time is a good thing. Why? Because it means they'll spend their time wisely doing something that's worthwhile and important to them.

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        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        Lol. Good point Ryan. For some (many?) People knowing they could die at any time is a good thing. Why? Because it means they'll spend their time wisely doing something that's worthwhile and important to them.

        2C
        the people who actually live lives that are worthwhile and exciting and take care of themselves will be the ones who life extension will benefit ..or who will at least have youth extension ..so they stay healthy vibrant and active until the late 80's or 90's ..

        there are factors those who live into their 90's and break a hundred ..share that can be studies\d and replicated ..

        it is like people who build wealth over 20-30 years of working.. saving and investing..there are patterns someone can follow ..

        and both can be followed at the same time
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          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          the people who actually live lives that are worthwhile and exciting and take care of themselves will be the ones who life extension will benefit ..
          Interesting: Thanks Odahh. : )

          By the way if anyone is afraid of dying (like I used to be) I found this advice from Steve Pavlina helpful:

          "Develop the inner strength to express your true self. And learn how to share your love with the World -- without holding back."

          (I don't know if that's helpful however I thought I would post it just in case.)

          Cheers.
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          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

            Interesting: Thanks Odahh. : )

            By the way if anyone is afraid of dying (like I used to be) I found this advice from Steve Pavlina helpful:

            "Develop the inner strength to express your true self. And learn how to share your love with the World -- without holding back."

            (I don't know if that's helpful however I thought I would post it just in case.)

            Cheers.
            I'm not afraid of dying ..i'm jus not interested in taking the safest path to the grave and withering for the last 20 years of my life taking 20 different medication a day ..when i have the choice now .. to make choice to extend real health as long as possible and be in better health at 80 or 90 ..than i was at 35 ..

            the them in my view on life extension.. is the the key is to have be in the best state of health and fulfillment you can get to as early in life as possible ..

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              Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

              taking 20 different medication a day
              I take 12. I don't give it a second thought. It's called, "Better Living Through Chemistry." :-)

              There's one special benefit. If you take them all at once with a cup of strong coffee, you get a great buzz that last for hours.
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                Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                I take 12. I don't give it a second thought. It's called, "Better Living Through Chemistry." :-)

                There's one special benefit. If you take them all at once with a cup of strong coffee, you get a great buzz that last for hours.
                and i saw what my parents where taking because i was caring for them the last three yreas or more of their lives ..I will personally make all the changes i can now ..to avoif the health problems both of my parents had the last 10-15 years of their lives ..and they didn't have the bad eating habits until after they where 40 or 50 because there wasn't as much crap available until the 80's and 90's

                i think the only thing i might be powerless to fix at this point is the sleep apnea.. because of the size of my neck ...it is one of the last things i need to get full control of
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                  Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                  i think the only thing i might be powerless to fix at this point is the sleep apnea.. because of the size of my neck ...it is one of the last things i need to get full control of
                  I had two surgeries to cure that. Had my uvula removed and a turbinectomy. You want to deal with that as quickly as possible as it is a contributing factor to congestive heart failure and is suspected to greatly increase your chances for developing Alzheimer's and at an earlier age that most.
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                    Had my uvula removed
                    Having your Uvula removed does not make you more of a man, it makes you less of a woman.
                    Yes, I am a doctor.
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                      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                      Having your Uvula removed does not make you more of a man, it makes you less of a woman.
                      Yes, I am a doctor.
                      Less discuss how predictable this was. lol
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                    Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                    I had two surgeries to cure that. Had my uvula removed and a turbinectomy. You want to deal with that as quickly as possible as it is a contributing factor to congestive heart failure and is suspected to greatly increase your chances for developing Alzheimer's and at an earlier age that most.
                    my father had it.. and my brother both have it.. i have not been diagnosed ..but with a 20 inch neck ..and the way i snore .. it is pretty much a given.. and if i want a long term relationship ..have a woman wake you up on a regular basis because you are snore to loud .. isn't good ..

                    my health was so out of place ..or such a mess three to 4 years ago.. that solveing and fixing one thing after the other.. i am left with the sleep apnea and diet .. the things i need to take care of in the next few years ..

                    i have not had to many days where i woke up more tired than going to sleep .. but i do have days that i wake up mentally tired or oxygen starved ..right now i am pretty sure my high blood pressure is from the sleep apnea ..and i have constant pain in my chest area..
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                      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                      i have not had to many days where i woke up more tired than going to sleep .. but i do have days that i wake up mentally tired or oxygen starved ..right now i am pretty sure my high blood pressure is from the sleep apnea ..and i have constant pain in my chest area..
                      Like I said, you should make this a number one priority. Most hospitals have sleep clinics where you can get tested. I think I went to Jefferson in Philly.

                      Every day you let this go untreated you are damaging your brain and your heart. It's easy to find excuses not to do things.
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    a 7 year old has somehow got a hold of your forum account and is posting nonsense in your name.

    ...and all the other accts were taken over by 8 year olds who wanted to answer?
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    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    A perfect example of what a 4 year old thinks a smart adult sounds like.

    It's not even a sentence.
    Really, and the guy out of the video that looks like Peter Capaldi, was so good at it.

    Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

    How can you tell the difference?
    Let's see, hmmm, a 7 year old may spit the dummy, and be invited to leave...


    And just to change the subject completely if anyone is wondering, the red on my Nickname and others is because we have worked extra hard in cleaning up this forum, helping others and removing spammers that keep posting the same crap over and over.

    We also have access to a new button that allows us to very quickly remove spammers, or two clicks and their accounts are gone forever.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SPAM

    Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

    Where is THAT copied and pasted from???
    The guy out of the video, and a bottle of Vodka.

    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

    It's a tough call, missing out on a Latte like that.
    Yes, l am not into scientists messing around with stuff, but was intrigued by this subject. They can basically reprogram cells so they revert back to a newer form, (so a 75 year old looks like 35, by popping pills or whatever.

    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    I actually did a search. It's not an exact cut and paste. He took all the big words out of an academic paragraph...and strung them together.

    It isn't a real sentence.
    Lol, l took some from the guy in the video you posted, and made the rest up.

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      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      And just to change the subject completely if anyone is wondering, the red on my Nickname and others is because we have worked extra hard in cleaning up this forum, helping others and removing spammers that keep posting the same crap over and over.

      We also have access to a new button that allows us to very quickly remove spammers, or two clicks and their accounts are gone forever.

      https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SPAM
      First off nobody really cares. Second all you do are p*ssing people off throwing your volunteer rights around as some badge of honor! It is not so knock it off. And get off the power trip !
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        Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

        First off nobody really cares. Second all you do are p*ssing people off throwing your volunteer rights around as some badge of honor! It is not so knock it off. And get off the power trip !
        Sorry DWolfe it wasn't my intention to p*** people off.

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        Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

        First off nobody really cares.
        Forget that. I don't see where anyone asked, or did I miss something?
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      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      And just to change the subject completely if anyone is wondering, the red on my Nickname and others is because we have worked extra hard in cleaning up this forum, helping others and removing spammers that keep posting the same crap over and over.
      You will forever be my hero.
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      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      Let's see, hmmm, a 7 year old may spit the dummy, and be invited to leave...


      And just to change the subject completely if anyone is wondering, the red on my Nickname and others is because we have worked extra hard in cleaning up this forum, helping others and removing spammers that keep posting the same crap over and over.

      We also have access to a new button that allows us to very quickly remove spammers, or two clicks and their accounts are gone forever.
      I think we all get it...be nice to Shane, or get your account deleted.
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I think we all get it...be nice to Shane, or get your account deleted.
        Fake news.

        You're still here.
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          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          Fake news.

          You're still here.
          True. I should have said "Be nice to Shane or get your posts deleted or your account deleted".
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          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          Fake news.

          You're still here.
          You have to muddy the waters to keep your cover from being blown.
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            Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

            You have to muddy the waters to keep your cover from being blown.
            I think you are wrong. Nothing on Dan Riffle has ever been blown.
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              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              I think you are wrong. Nothing on Dan Riffle has ever been blown.
              He had a much different story about the last time you two met for lunch.
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                Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                He had a much different story about the last time you two met for lunch.
                He blew off the check...is that what you are talking about?


                (edited to be funnier)
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                Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                Note to self: Ban Claude and he'll think Shane did it.
                As we both know Kurt, if someone here pushes the exact same message through 4 times in a row, then it is considered spam.

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                  Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                  As we both know Kurt, if someone here pushes the exact same message through 4 times in a row, then it is considered spam.

                  A mod is not supposed to be moderating their own threads either, but someone keeps doing it.
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                A tad off topic..Has anyone heard from Frank recently?
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                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                  A tad off topic..Has anyone heard from Frank recently?
                  It's funny you ask that because he posted just above you and he was talking about the ignore func...

                  Hey, wait a minute...

                  I see what you did there.
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                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                  A tad off topic..Has anyone heard from Frank recently?
                  It appears that I'm not utilizing that 'ignore' feature to it's maximum benefit.
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                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                  A tad off topic..Has anyone heard from Frank recently?
                  Who?.......................................
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                Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                Yeah but thing is this has already been debunked in the same article.

                "The chemical is already used as a supplement for treating Parkinson's disease and fighting jet lag. "

                I'm not seeing Parkinson patients looking younger or frequent flyers regrowing hair - not even in first class

                .
                Yes, l read about it in the paper, and it seems to be a drug derived from well known drugs, that makes mice younger.

                Just to put a spanner in the works....

                https://www.news.com.au/technology/i...3ebed09ab85754

                This sounds like something out of Doctor Who, gets out the knives, and get the Cyber-men bodies on standby.

                We get to the year 2050, and all of our worries will be over, lol.

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                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                Ha....hahahahahahahaha.....Ha!



                ha..

                ..........hahaha...ha

                Actually, the first attempt was funnier to me, but it was more insulting, and I thought it may have crossed a line.
                I would have had more respect going for the more insulting option.
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                  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                  I would have had more respect going for the more insulting option.
                  It involved you and Riffle's wife. It was really pretty funny. But I don't have the certain knowledge that it wouldn't cross the line with Riffle.
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                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    It involved you and Riffle's wife. It was really pretty funny. But I don't have the certain knowledge that it wouldn't cross the line with Riffle.
                    It's not so much that it crosses a line (that's virtually impossible to do with me), but it opens a door. And that door leads to a basement of no return. I try not to make a defenseless third the butt of the joke. They can be used as props to set up the punchline, but they should never be the punchline if they aren't present to respond in kind.

                    It's honor amongst assholes.

                    Besides, when someone opens that door, it's usually a sign of desperation and you have them on the ropes.
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                      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                      I try not to make a defenseless third the butt of the joke. They can be used as props to set up the punchline, but they should never be the punchline if they aren't present to respond in kind.
                      Precisely my view. An unwritten rule that is clearly understood. They can be part of the joke, but not the brunt of the joke.

                      And....I hate to say this..but others read the insult, misinterpret what was said, and now think that the spouse (or other loved ones) can be the brunt of jokes.

                      Anyway..I pretty much have forgotten the original joke. And when I hear it from someone else here, I'll think "What a brilliant insult. I wish I had thought of it".

                      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                      Besides, when someone opens that door, it's usually a sign of desperation and you have them on the ropes.
                      I can't tell if that's an indirect insult to me...or a direct insult to me....

                      but when someone insinuates that I may be desperate, it's usually because I have them on the ropes.

                      See what I did there?

                      My Kung Fu is strong.

                      Added later; See how I "Thanked" Mikes response, but not yours? It's part of my campaign to make you feel unloved, eventually leading to your completely giving up on life.

                      Added a tad later than that;

                      Dan, I "Thanked " an earlier post of yours. I just want to slow down your inevitable slide into despondency and madness.

                      Vengeance is mine!
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                        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                        but when someone insinuates that I may be desperate, it's usually because I have them on the ropes.
                        It's usually a result of knowing you reasonably well. You middle name is 'Desperation.'
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                          Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                          It's usually a result of knowing you reasonably well. You middle name is 'Desperation.'
                          Oh Yeah? Well your middle name is Shut Up!



                          I think I handled that rather well.
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                            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                            I think I handled that rather well.
                            Seemed a bit desperate if you ask me.
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                            Hey People.

                            I was just watching this YouTube video from Claude: Interesting advice. : )

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                            P.S.
                            There are many more videos of Claude on YouTube. (Just search his name.)
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                              Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                              Hey People.

                              I was just watching this YouTube video from Claude: Interesting advice. : )

                              ...

                              Closing Sales. Two Things Buyers Love To Do. Selling Tips. Claude Whitacre - YouTube

                              P.S.
                              There are many more videos of Claude on YouTube. (Just search his name.)
                              I have to agree with your posting this. It's just another reminder that I'm the most important person here. I have a portrait of me above our fireplace. It's a portrait of me...looking at a smaller portrait of me...where I'm looking at a small sculpture of myself. I look at it nightly. It inspires me to be more like me.

                              I read daily out of a quote book that are only things I've said. . I learned it at Trump University. Graduating class of Thursday. My motto is "Me! Me! Me!".

                              My new book is coming out How To Be More Like Claude On Only 5,000 Calories A Day.


                              Jonathan; Truly, thank you for posting my video. But this is the Off Topic Forum, and my videos are on sales and marketing. In this space, I'm really just entertaining myself.

                              I do appreciate that you thought of me. Claude
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                                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                I have to agree with your posting this. It's just another reminder that I'm the most important person here.
                                Sorry. : ( It wasn't to suggest you were the most important Person, just that you have many valuable YouTube videos.
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                                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                It inspires me to be more like me.
                                Too bad it doesn't inspire you to be much more than you actually, are.
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                                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                Jonathan; Truly, thank you for posting my video. But this is the Off Topic Forum, and my videos are on sales and marketing. In this space, I'm really just entertaining myself.
                                OK. : ) I'll go back and delete it.
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                                  Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                                  OK. : ) I'll go back and delete it.
                                  Jonathan; please put the video back in...or we will have to both delete the entire exchange.

                                  Really, I appreciate that you posted the video.
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                                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                    Jonathan; please put the video back in...or we will have to both delete the entire exchange.
                                    Well the link to your video is in your reply. Let's leave it at that. : )

                                    P.S.
                                    Here's a different video.


                                    HTH.
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                                      Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                                      Well the link to your video is in your reply. Let's leave it at that. : )

                                      P.S.
                                      Here's a different video.

                                      Advanced Sales Training - Interview With Claude Whitacre - YouTube

                                      HTH.
                                      Best nights sleep I ever had, thanks Jonathan
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                                        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                                        Best nights sleep I ever had, thanks Jonathan
                                        Lol. He's a good Salesman.
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                                    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                                    Sorry. : ( It wasn't to suggest you were the most important Person, just that you have many valuable YouTube videos.
                                    True, the Dark Web is vast.

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                                    Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                                    Let's pick-up the pace.

                                    Perhaps it will help if I pledge my modus operandi.

                                    1. I will delete all posts where it is immediately obvious that the poster never actually read the initial post.

                                    2. I will delete all posts where it is immediately obvious that the poster read the initial post, but didn't understand a word of it.

                                    3. I will delete all post where it is immediately obvious that the poster read the initial post, understood it, but decided to post something that has nothing to do with the original post.

                                    4. I will delete all posts from Ryan and Jonathan in a concerted effort to try to diminish the embarrassment they heap upon the forum on a daily basis and to attempt to resurrect the good name of the Warrior Forum across the Interwebs, although with the damage that has already been done, this will be a supreme challenge. (It's a joke, people!)

                                    I have more, but let's be honest. That's plenty good - right, there! This should make me a shoe-in.


                                    Brewster's Millions Quote.
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                                      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                      Brewster's Millions Quote.
                                      Careful. When I get in, I will be adopting both an inanity and insanity quotient.
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                                        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                                        Careful. When I get in, I will be adopting both an inanity and insanity quotient.



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                                          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                          I'm having sautéed minions and bacon on my veal liver, tonight. Deelish!
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                                      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post



                                      Brewster's Millions Quote.

                                      I present exhibit 32B of why Frank should be a mod. Tagiscom is against it, proving that without a doubt it is a good idea.
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                                        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                                        I present exhibit 32B of why Frank should be a mod. Tagiscom is against it, proving that without a doubt it is a good idea.
                                        I firmly believe that this is universally regarded as a very good idea, but people fear change, especially when they realize that someone else's performance will only illuminate their own shortcomings.

                                        I see this a lot.
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                                          Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                                          I firmly believe that this is universally regarded as a very good idea, but people fear change, especially when they realize that someone else's performance will only illuminate their own shortcomings.

                                          I see this a lot.
                                          So, you finally realize that someone else's performance illuminates your own shortcomings?

                                          Now, we are making progress.

                                          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                                          I present exhibit 32B of why Frank should be a mod. Tagiscom is against it, proving that without a doubt it is a good idea.
                                          The reverse of that is also true. If he '"likes" your post.....it's the kiss of death.

                                          Shane "liked" one of my posts once, and I couldn't walk for a week.
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                                            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                            So, you finally realize that someone else's performance illuminates your own shortcomings?

                                            Now, we are making progress.
                                            I have no shortcomings. We've been over this. You must have thought I wasn't being serious.

                                            Shane "liked" one of my posts once.
                                            It was just a matter of time. Also, people make mistakes.
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                                            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                            Shane "liked" one of my posts once, and I couldn't walk for a week.
                                            Your wife was hoping you couldn't talk for a week.
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                                            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                            So, you finally realize that someone else's performance illuminates your own shortcomings?

                                            Now, we are making progress.



                                            The reverse of that is also true. If he '"likes" your post.....it's the kiss of death.

                                            Shane "liked" one of my posts once, and I couldn't walk for a week.
                                            That was when you posted about breaking your leg

                                            Taking of which... How do you tell how old Claude really is?

                                            Cut one of his legs in half and count the rings.
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                                    Stunning anti-ageing breakthrough could see humans live to 150 and regenerate organs by 2020

                                    Has anyone noticed that this is less than two years from now?

                                    And someone...somewhere...thinks it's plausible that in a year and a half, we will be able to regenerate organs and live to 150.

                                    And two years from now..when it's pointed out that it didn't happen...we will already have been through a dozen other nonsensical ideas....

                                    Nonsensical overload.
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                                      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                      And someone...somewhere...thinks it's plausible that in a year and a half, we will be able to regenerate organs and live to 150.
                                      You do realize that we are currently growing organs from stem cells in labs. Skin (an organ) is being used extensively for burn victims. They are having some success with livers and, dare I say it, some of the early results in growing hearts is mind-boggling.

                                      This is coming, much sooner than luddites like you might realize or be willing to acknowledge, but the goal is NOT to extend life to 150. It's to allow people to live out their 'normal' life expectancy, by replacing failed organs that would have resulted in premature death, something, by the way, that l wish for you on an ever increasing basis.
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                                        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                                        You do realize that we are currently growing organs from stem cells in labs. Skin (an organ) is being used extensively for burn victims. They are having some success with livers and, dare I say it, some of the early results in growing hearts is mind-boggling.

                                        This is coming, much sooner than luddites like you might realize or be willing to acknowledge, but the goal is NOT to extend life to 150. It's to allow people to live out their 'normal' life expectancy, by replacing failed organs that would have resulted in premature death, something, by the way, that l wish for you on an ever increasing basis.
                                        I was just thinking of the impact of being able to live 150 years. Our brains still age. Neurons don't reproduce, and our fluid intelligence greatly weakens as we age.

                                        So, we may live longer..but not as productive people.

                                        What would be the cost to keep us alive?

                                        And this thought is painful to me, but as humans, we very seldom accept new ideas when we are old. Learning slows and then stops. We really have to die and be replaced by better educated people..for us to progress. Even our experience isn't enough to make us adaptable in old age.

                                        When we say "Kids these days..." or "When I was a kid...", it isn't so much that people are different now...as that we are different when we age.

                                        Anyway, just a few ideas.
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                                          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                          I was just thinking of the impact of being able to live 150 years.
                                          This will not be good as just the thought it will cause mass global suicide.

                                          So, we may live longer..but not as productive people.
                                          Just because you have experienced this since puberty, is no reason to shade the rest of the planet.

                                          What would be the cost to keep us alive?
                                          Cue the doughnut jokes!

                                          And this thought is painful to me, but as humans, we very seldom accept new ideas when we are old. Learning slows and then stops. We really have to die and be replaced by better educated people..for us to progress. Even our experience isn't enough to make us adaptable in old age.
                                          Total rubbish and again, only based on your scary introspection. I am young at heart and approach learning new things with all the gusto I can muster. I'm open to new ideas, as long as the didn't originate at Microsoft. The only ideas, old or new that I reject, are ones that a lifetime of experience has taught me are total rubbish.

                                          When we say "Kids these days..." or "When I was a kid...", it isn't so much that people are different now...as that we are different when we age.
                                          I'm different, but better, much like a fine one that improves with age.

                                          Anyway, just a few ideas.
                                          That's all you possess.
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                                          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                                            Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                                            Total rubbish and again, only based on your scary introspection. I am young at heart and approach learning new things with all the gusto I can muster. I'm open to new ideas, as long as the didn't originate at Microsoft. The only ideas, old or new that I reject, are ones that a lifetime of experience has taught me are total rubbish.
                                            .
                                            Not based on introspection.
                                            Here you are, my friend...

                                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_...d_intelligence
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                                              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                              Not based on introspection.
                                              Here you are, my friend...

                                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_...d_intelligence
                                              Spare me. I authored most of that. It was just beyond your comprehension.

                                              Back to your Little Lotta comic books.
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                                                Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                                                So reading over this anti-aging crap... I'm against it. We need more people dying, not living longer.
                                                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                                The reverse of that is also true. If he '"likes" your post.....it's the kiss of death.

                                                Shane "liked" one of my posts once, and I couldn't walk for a week.
                                                Good to know.

                                                Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                                                That was when you posted about breaking your leg

                                                Taking of which... How do you tell how old Claude really is?

                                                Cut one of his legs in half and count the rings.
                                                His head gives a more accurate count.

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                                              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                              Not based on introspection.
                                              Here you are, my friend...

                                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_...d_intelligence
                                              yes and one thing you old farts.. don't seem to grasp is that with gps .. i can drive almost anywhere.. and my cellphone can have numbers for 1000 people.. so my ability to remember how to drive places .. or remember peoples phone numbers.. is not as important as it once was ..

                                              there is a lot you no longer have to remember ..when you need to know just google it ..

                                              we live in a world where a persons main memory bank is not in their head.. and eventually we will have a much faster interface with it than we do know ..

                                              there will be real time monitoring of health ..the computers will monitor us and even the slightest deterioration will be detected and options for treatment ..early .. rather than discovering it years into the process
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                                                Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                                                yes and one thing you old farts.. don't seem to grasp is that with gps .. i can drive almost anywhere.. and my cellphone can have numbers for 1000 people.. so my ability to remember how to drive places .. or remember peoples phone numbers.. is not as important as it once was ..

                                                there is a lot you no longer have to remember ..when you need to know just google it ..

                                                we live in a world where a persons main memory bank is not in their head.. and eventually we will have a much faster interface with it than we do know ..

                                                there will be real time monitoring of health ..the computers will monitor us and even the slightest deterioration will be detected and options for treatment ..early .. rather than discovering it years into the process
                                                You young people today...with your Rock and Roll...and your MTV.
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                                                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                                  You young people today...with your Rock and Roll...and your MTV.
                                                  who need myv.. i can watch any music video i want that has ever been made withh a few click on you tube ..

                                                  no need to sit in front of a tv for hours at a time waiting ..

                                                  oh and hell if i suddenly want to listen to chinese flute music ..seconds later i'm listening.. not running to a store to spend 10-20 for a record ,tape or cd

                                                  and i'm even behind the times.. reall lazy people just have to say alexa play .. or what ever device
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                                                    Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                                                    who need myv.. i can watch any music video i want that has ever been made withh a few click on you tube ..

                                                    no need to sit in front of a tv for hours at a time waiting ..

                                                    oh and hell if i suddenly want to listen to chinese flute music ..seconds later i'm listening.. not running to a store to spend 10-20 for a record ,tape or cd

                                                    and i'm even behind the times.. reall lazy people just have to say alexa play .. or what ever device

                                                    Sure...sure....like these things are real..

                                                    The next thing you'll tell me is that there are electric cars that can park themselves....

                                                    Chinese flute music...like that's a real thing.
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                                                      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                                      Sure...sure....like these things are real..

                                                      The next thing you'll tell me is that there are electric cars that can park themselves....

                                                      Chinese flute music...like that's a real thing.
                                                      park themselve naaah.. next thing you know if you play certain songs the cars will start dancing ..kinda

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                                        • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                                          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                          I was just thinking of the impact of being able to live 150 years. Our brains still age. Neurons don't reproduce, and our fluid intelligence greatly weakens as we age.

                                          So, we may live longer..but not as productive people.

                                          What would be the cost to keep us alive?

                                          And this thought is painful to me, but as humans, we very seldom accept new ideas when we are old. Learning slows and then stops. We really have to die and be replaced by better educated people..for us to progress. Even our experience isn't enough to make us adaptable in old age.

                                          When we say "Kids these days..." or "When I was a kid...", it isn't so much that people are different now...as that we are different when we age.

                                          Anyway, just a few ideas.
                                          i fully understand your argument ..the critical element is how people stay productive .. not just alive but productive ..being productive in a way that is sustainable long term.. is the cornerstone for mental and physical health and longevity ..

                                          we will not enslave youth to support healthy people over a certain age ...people wil have to bare the cost of keeping themselves alive ..after all i think it is still common for many men to wither up and die within a few years of retiring ..once they stop being productive they start dying at a faster and faster rate ..

                                          when viewing this subject .. understand you actually have to make lifestyle choices to get any benefit from the potential of life extension.. if you are living a lifestyle that is damaging your health .. life extension will not help.. it will be suffering extension or slowing the decay at the end of your life ..

                                          the same way people don't just accidentally build wealth .. unless they where born with parents who taught them how .. or learned it along the way .. they don't build wealth .. the same thing goes for life extension .. we have plenty of data from people who naturally live to old age and stay healthy and active.. and rapidly growing piles of data on the many different ways people can destroy their health ..
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                                          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


                                          Anyway, just a few ideas.
                                          Where?



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                                          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                          I was just thinking of the impact of being able to live 150 years. Our brains still age. Neurons don't reproduce, and our fluid intelligence greatly weakens as we age.

                                          So, we may live longer..but not as productive people.

                                          What would be the cost to keep us alive?

                                          And this thought is painful to me, but as humans, we very seldom accept new ideas when we are old. Learning slows and then stops. We really have to die and be replaced by better educated people..for us to progress. Even our experience isn't enough to make us adaptable in old age.

                                          When we say "Kids these days..." or "When I was a kid...", it isn't so much that people are different now...as that we are different when we age.

                                          Anyway, just a few ideas.
                                          The Adult Brain Can Regenerate Neurons in an Unexpected Area, Says New Study
                                          https://www.sciencealert.com/our-bra...ght-study-says

                                          Regeneration of Brain Cells - Brave New World of Adult Neurogenesis
                                          https://www.thoughtco.com/regenerati...n-cells-373181
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                                            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                                            The Adult Brain Can Regenerate Neurons in an Unexpected Area, Says New Study
                                            https://www.sciencealert.com/our-bra...ght-study-says

                                            Regeneration of Brain Cells - Brave New World of Adult Neurogenesis
                                            https://www.thoughtco.com/regenerati...n-cells-373181
                                            Here's a website that says that neurons cannot be replaced. So....


                                            https://www.lifecoderx.com/can-lost-...s-be-replaced/

                                            And here's a (probable better source) article that says that neurons can reproduce but not quickly.
                                            https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-...ew-brain-cells

                                            Anyway, I listened to (I think) Sam Harris talking about neurons not growing well after birth, but our white brain matter (I think) can grow. So brain calls can reproduce in damaged brains, just not the neurons.

                                            It appears that this idea is changing with new testing.
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                                              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                              Here's a website that says that neurons cannot be replaced. So....


                                              https://www.lifecoderx.com/can-lost-...s-be-replaced/

                                              And here's a (probable better source) article that says that neurons can reproduce but not quickly.
                                              https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-...ew-brain-cells

                                              Anyway, I listened to (I think) Sam Harris talking about neurons not growing well after birth, but our white brain matter (I think) can grow. So brain calls can reproduce in damaged brains, just not the neurons.

                                              It appears that this idea is changing with new testing.
                                              this is valid stuff to worry about or look at.. the brain finishes developing in the mid 20's for very good reasons .. people are basically fully grown physically by then ..

                                              keeping the brain healthy is very important to living longer ..or just living better .. and i will go back to lifestyle choices and real time monitoring ..with advancing tech.. so if you go through an event that may have caused damage.. testing can be done almost immediately and treatment rather than.having the damage take place and either scar over or start a cycle o deterioration ..

                                              10 or 20 years ago it was not that widely known about the long term effects of head trauma /concussion ..and by the time anyone looked to see if an even caused damage it was months or years later ..

                                              now with what is going on in pro football and other sports ..people are being check hours after an event .. and it is not long before treatments are developed to help the brain heal without scarring or permanent damage or that can repair or help the body repair .

                                              lots of money involved in figure this out ..yes now it is expensive ..and the expense may always be out of the range of non wealthy people .

                                              so i'm a broken record on this.. that life extension and the full benefits..will most likely be exclusive to the wealthy and those who make the lifestyle choices that lead to long term health ...not the guy filling his belly with greasy pizza and fast food several times of week and drinking their liver to destruction..

                                              as far as the cost of keeping people alive.. it will be the people themselves covering the cost ..and it is not to long before society refuses to pay for expensive medical treatments for people getting illnesses from bad lifestyles ..the system is going bankrupt as it is

                                              My belief on this is longevity is going to be the result of lifestyle choices .. if you havn't won the genetic lottery that will get you to 100 and be healthy and active .. the same way a person is not born wealthy .. can build wealth with lifestyle choices ..

                                              the first thin someone has to do .. is actually build wealth that gives them the ability to purchase the high quality more expensive fresher food.. and have access to the medical monitor to have very early detection and the best possible treatments or therapies ..
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                                        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                                        You do realize that we are currently growing organs from stem cells in labs. Skin (an organ) is being used extensively for burn victims. They are having some success with livers and, dare I say it, some of the early results in growing hearts is mind-boggling.

                                        This is coming, much sooner than luddites like you might realize or be willing to acknowledge, but the goal is NOT to extend life to 150. It's to allow people to live out their 'normal' life expectancy, by replacing failed organs that would have resulted in premature death, something, by the way, that l wish for you on an ever increasing basis.
                                        although i am a fan of better more environmental positive ways of raising animals.. one of the things that will rapidly drop the cost of these techs.. will be basically growing meat in labs high quality tasty meat that has good nutrient content ..it will by much better than concentrate animal feeding operations .. and the way many fish farms are ..

                                        a larger and larger amount of food is being grown in indoor hydroponic facilities .. and coming out with high nutrient content ..certain meats will be grown in factories in a decade or two..and have high nutrient levels and much higher than industrial meats

                                        with so many methods of growing food being developed so quality nutrient rich food can be produced nearly anywhere .. food will not be a problem in the future ..it isn't now ..now it is distribution ..
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                                      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                      Stunning anti-ageing breakthrough could see humans live to 150 and regenerate organs by 2020

                                      Has anyone noticed that this is less than two years from now?

                                      And someone...somewhere...thinks it's plausible that in a year and a half, we will be able to regenerate organs and live to 150.

                                      And two years from now..when it's pointed out that it didn't happen...we will already have been through a dozen other nonsensical ideas....

                                      Nonsensical overload.
                                      my first response .. had in it that there where no 148 year olds living now who would live to be 150 in 2 years .. longevity is a potential .. just because you can live to 90 now ..as a potential for many people ..does not mean you will..and if you where 88 and this gave a person 2 more years ..

                                      i treat it as a potential not a predetermined reality ..i can step into the street and get killed by a car .. or in the next few years have a jealous girlfriend threw me out a window because she thinks i'm cheating ..

                                      death is one of those things that is guaranteed ..after heart disease cancer and neurodegenerative disease .. to get into car accidents and other sudden life ending events .. so the probability ..even if science and medicine and personal behavior can keep people alive and healthy indefinatly.. some other event will most likely kill a person..no matter how safe the world is ..
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                        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                        I can't tell if that's an indirect insult to me...or a direct insult to me....
                        No, that comment was meant more as an aside as to another reason why "going there" is considered poor form.

                        Regarding your comment about other people running with it, that's part of what I meant by opening the door. It becomes a race to the bottom (which, correct me if I'm wrong, is what they call leap frog night at your house). The humor becomes more "how low can I go" and less "how clever can I be".

                        Of course, clever is in the eye of the beholder... Not every joke can be comedy gold. Whatty and Mark are examples of that...
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                          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                          No, that comment was meant more as an aside as to another reason why "going there" is considered poor form.
                          Are you saying that you wasted a perfectly good opportunity to insult me?


                          You sicken me.
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                            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                            Are you saying that you wasted a perfectly good opportunity to insult me?
                            Well, it's not like they're rare occurrences.
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                              Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                              Well, it's not like they're rare occurrences.
                              the perception that Claude thinks that you still breath and talk is offencive to start with.. means it not only not rare .. it's almost your purpose for being ..
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                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    It involved you and Riffle's wife. It was really pretty funny. But I don't have the certain knowledge that it wouldn't cross the line with Riffle.
                    Ah, fair enough. I thought you meant crossing a line with me, which is pretty tough to do.
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                    I hope so.
                    Please voice your desire at the suggestion forum. Go early to avoid the mad rush.
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                      Please voice your desire at the suggestion forum. Go early to avoid the mad rush.
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                        It's now up to two votes.
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                          It's now up to two votes.
                          Let's pick-up the pace.

                          Perhaps it will help if I pledge my modus operandi.

                          1. I will delete all posts where it is immediately obvious that the poster never actually read the initial post.

                          2. I will delete all posts where it is immediately obvious that the poster read the initial post, but didn't understand a word of it.

                          3. I will delete all post where it is immediately obvious that the poster read the initial post, understood it, but decided to post something that has nothing to do with the original post.

                          4. I will delete all posts from Ryan and Jonathan in a concerted effort to try to diminish the embarrassment they heap upon the forum on a daily basis and to attempt to resurrect the good name of the Warrior Forum across the Interwebs, although with the damage that has already been done, this will be a supreme challenge. (It's a joke, people!)

                          I have more, but let's be honest. That's plenty good - right, there! This should make me a shoe-in.
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                            You had me at

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                            I will delete all posts
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                              You had me at
                              The thought has crossed my mind.
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                            Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                            Let's pick-up the pace.

                            Perhaps it will help if I pledge my modus operandi.

                            1. I will delete all posts where it is immediately obvious that the poster never actually read the initial post.

                            2. I will delete all posts where it is immediately obvious that the poster read the initial post, but didn't understand a word of it.

                            3. I will delete all post where it is immediately obvious that the poster read the initial post, understood it, but decided to post something that has nothing to do with the original post.

                            4. I will delete all posts from Ryan and Jonathan in a concerted effort to try to diminish the embarrassment they heap upon the forum on a daily basis and to attempt to resurrect the good name of the Warrior Forum across the Interwebs, although with the damage that has already been done, this will be a supreme challenge. (It's a joke, people!)

                            I have more, but let's be honest. That's plenty good - right, there! This should make me a shoe-in.
                            Another addition to win more votes:

                            5. All posters are required to make fun of Claude at least once a day. Anyone not meeting their quota will be banned.
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                              5. All posters are required to make fun of Claude at least once a day. Anyone not meeting their quota will be banned.
                              I was under the impression that this notification went out in the Warrior Forum new member welcome email.

                              No?

                              Someone needs to be shit-canned!
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                https://www.iflscience.com/health-an...ls-in-the-lab/

                Ok, this is the one l should have originally posted, and they used hydrogen sulfide, which smells like rotten eggs.

                The floor is open Dan.

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      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post


      Yes, l am not into scientists messing around with stuff, but was intrigued by this subject. They can basically reprogram cells so they revert back to a newer form, (so a 75 year old looks like 35, by popping pills or whatever.

      Yeah but thing is this has already been debunked in the same article.

      "The chemical is already used as a supplement for treating Parkinson's disease and fighting jet lag. "

      I'm not seeing Parkinson patients looking younger or frequent flyers regrowing hair - not even in first class




      And just to change the subject completely if anyone is wondering, the red on my Nickname and others is because we have worked extra hard in cleaning up this forum, helping others and removing spammers that keep posting the same crap over and over.
      Well that and for full disclosure you said yes while others asked said no.
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  • Here's what I see comin' ...

    Most anti-agein' stuff figures either chemicals, lifestyle or zero terminal DNAstuffs.

    So I would wanna bust out on a BOOBIE WELLBEING DELIVERY BRA.


    Fits like a regular fashion bra, mebbe padsya out if'n you need an extra flourish.

    Anyways, bra is a POWERHOUSE CHEMICAL FACTORY tooned in to yr metabolism.

    Sensor discovers hey, way too much salt gowin' on, & bra fixes the deal.

    (An' guys, you don't gotta depend on no GIRLSY product to mock yr ass for havin' man boobs -- male version prolly got a sensor bypasses nipples altogether an' drops its science-packed forensic prowess deep down onya Urethra Franklin pipehole.)

    Anythin' my beleagured, abused & misfirin' cells need is proactively rectified by the BENEVOLENT CHEMICALS squirted out by my sense-packed bra.

    I need endorphins?

    Got 'em!

    I need adrenaline?

    Aw yeah -- feel it bustin' outta evry conduit!

    Demand sperm?

    Yeah, yeah, for sure the little guys can swim around my assorted toobs for a while, they wanna!

    Point is, my BOOBIE WELLBEING DELIVERY BRA gotmy evry biochemical need covered -- jus' like regular frickin' baps.

    It also got plugins to suit mood -- chemical combo delivery to suit PARTY or CHILLOUT or SHOOTER IN THE MALL KILLS DOZENS.

    Meantime, best anti-agein' potion we got is to be sweet on one another, max we can.

    Or possibly kittens.
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    it wasn't my intention to p*** people off.

    And just to change the subject completely if anyone is wondering, the red on my Nickname and others is because we have worked extra hard in cleaning up this forum, helping others and removing spammers that keep posting the same crap over and over.

    We also have access to a new button that allows us to very quickly remove spammers, or two clicks and their accounts are gone forever.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SPAM

    As usual - no one asked and no one was wondering. You've posted about it so many times members are aware of your exalted status. Explaining 'mod permissions' is not appropriate.


    You know it is an abuse of mod permissions to 'manage/edit' your own threads but you continue to 'warn' members and to delete posts you don't like or posts by members you don't like. You did it again in this thread.
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    Can I please be a mod? Just imagine all the fun we can have. :-)
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    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

    Let's see, hmmm, a 7 year old may spit the dummy, and be invited to leave...


    And just to change the subject completely if anyone is wondering, the red on my Nickname and others is because we have worked extra hard in cleaning up this forum, helping others and removing spammers that keep posting the same crap over and over.

    We also have access to a new button that allows us to very quickly remove spammers, or two clicks and their accounts are gone forever.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SPAM
    Really. You are going to threaten to ban me for making a harmless joke and once again brag about your mod privileges? That is a poor reflection on the rest of the mod team.
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    Note to self: Ban Claude and he'll think Shane did it.
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    First of all, we know that DNA is sort of like a shoelace. It has plastic tips at the end. Every time a cell reproduces, the tips get shorter and shorter and shorter until finally they fray. And you know that your shoelace, without the plastic tips will simply fall apart. That's what happens inside a cell. A cell, for example, your skin cell, will divide about 60 times, that's called a Hayflick Limit. Then the cell goes into senescence and eventually dies.
    So in some sense, every cell has a biological clock. It is doomed to die after about 60 reproductions. However, Telomerase can eliminate some of the contraction of the chromosomes and the chromosomes can maintain their length. So at first you may say, "ah-ha! We can now defeat the biological clock."

    ...

    For example, if I take any organism on the planet Earth from yeast cells to spiders, insects, rabbits, dogs, and even monkeys now. And I reduce their caloric intake by 30%, they live 30% longer. In fact the only organism which has not yet been deliberately tested by scientists are homo sapiens. All the other species obey this basic rule. You starve them to death, they live longer. This is independent of Telomerase. This is a function of the wear and tear that we have on the cells. And this is the only known way of actually deliberately extending the lifespan of any organisms almost at will.

    Of course it's so much more appealing to hope that some magical pill will do the same.
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    No Claude, it doesn't work that way. In order to regenerate an organ you first need to have the organ. Check with your favorite Swedish doctor about getting an addadictomy.
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    I don't know about that man, seems kinda sketchy to me.
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  • Thing always to remember 'bout regeneratin' organs -- or any kinda swanky physiological level-up -- is how Jurassic Park backfired despite the dream.


    That is why I figure alla these regenerated organs gotta be tested for safety.


    Jus' to be sure we ain't pumpin' out duds or nuthin'.


    An' I know Whatto been laughin' at Moi earlier in this thread for bein' a Vodka-drenched harpy (my words, not his ... cos he too busy battlin' killer spidahs in Oz to be genuinely offensive), but I got my innate Do Good By Hoomanity side also.


    So if they ever get this regeneratin' organ scheme fully pumped up an' runnin', I would wanna look in on the production line as a trooly fired-up, hands-on TESTER.


    Yeah yeah, drop them organs fronta Moi -- not liver or guts or nuthin' icky, but mebbe sumthin' meaty I can clamp my mitts on, go figure this a dud or mebbe sumone want summa this stuff dishin' the bangin' in their life?

    tbh I figure this scheme got such merit I ain't merely payin' lip service here -- though if'n I gotta bend over backwards to be an enthoosiast for hi-tech smarts on a roll, prolly ima open to input on the deal.


    Point is, all kindsa tech poses all kindsa challenges right now as we extend our remit beyond the stoopidly instinctive to the even stoopider brain-enhanced.


    Aw, but yeah -- a non-stop conveyor packin' wibbly wobbly organs I can firm up as FIT FOR PURPOSE or DUD.


    For sure that would engage my higher mind sure as whackin' me in the butt when I been naughty.
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    So reading over this anti-aging crap... I'm against it. We need more people dying, not living longer.

    However, can we make my dog live to 100? I'd be okay with that. I'll miss him more than any of you anyhow.
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      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      So reading over this anti-aging crap... I'm against it. We need more people dying, not living longer.
      True, but I want to choose.

      However, can we make my dog live to 100? I'd be okay with that. I'll miss him more than any of you anyhow.
      My doggie will be 5 next month. It's sad to know I'll be going, first. That. said - I cried every single day for a year and a half when Baby passed, so I think this is better. :-(

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      This is amazing lol
      So is how fast you'll be banned.
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