Internet Marketing VS Network Marketing

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Last night I was invited to a small meeting and this guy who is in this one Network Marketing company happens to be the speaker. He claimed to make 6 figures in the business. After the lecture was over, everyone had a small group talk and they started passing out sign up forms to collect payment, which I find it odd.

So, the people who invited me that night went to talk to the speaker, and the speaker came up to me trying to convince me to sign up. I told him Network Marketing just isn't my thing. I told him I am a Internet Marketer. I build niche sites and email subscriber base. I specialize in Facebook ads.

The speaker then told me that what I'm doing is wrong - the kind of mentality I have while we were having a dialogue that is.

He brought up Mark Zuckerberg and the little story how Facebook got started when he invited 5 people to his Harvard dorm and only 2 people showed up. Basically he was trying to use that story against me as if I would have missed a wonderful opportunity if I didn't join that night.

I was thinking in my mind "how the heck you make 6 figures and don't know jack about internet marketing, building niche sites and list building, and you telling me what I'm doing is wrong, and the kind of thinking I possessed?"

Truly if he make 6 figures as he claim, he would of understand where I'm going with this. I am surprise this speaker doesn't get it. He started bashing about email list. Then I told him "wouldn't you agree the money is in the list? This apply to every business you're doing." He didn't want to answer me this question and then decided to shake my hand goodbye.

I can't believe I came to that meeting to argue with the speaker.

Tell me. What's the difference between someone who does Network Marketing vs someone who build niche sites, list building, SEO, FB ads etc. Because this speaker doesn't seen to get it. In my opinion, comparing the speaker to me he knows very little about real internet marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    For purposes of communicating online, 'network marketing' on this forum usually refers to 'MLM' - Internet Marketing is self explanatory and can include network marketing...


    Did you not realize the goal of the 'meeting' was to sign you up for an MLM? Do you believe arguing with the person who arranged the meeting is a good use of your time? Was the goal to show him how much you know - or how little he knows? What result did you expect?


    In my opinion, comparing the speaker to me he knows very little about real internet marketing.

    Convenient conclusion.


    Alternative Conclusion: The seller arranged a meeting with a goal to enroll attendees in his MLM....and had no interest in your 'marketing' theories and arguments. Just a thought.
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    • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      For purposes of communicating online, 'network marketing' on this forum usually refers to 'MLM' - Internet Marketing is self explanatory and can include network marketing...

      P
      I started a MLM, invited friends and family to meatloaf opportunity meeting. Sort of like a party. like Avon, Tupperware, only I was offering meatloaf. All they had to do was simply bring only TWO people, who would in turn bring in 2 more...and we would all be meatloaf millionaires.

      It didn't work out. Don't know why. Maybe I should have done Network or IM instead.

      Dang.

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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by sage12 View Post


    He brought up Mark Zuckerberg and the little story how Facebook got started when he invited 5 people to his Harvard dorm and only 2 people showed up. Basically he was trying to use that story against me as if I would have missed a wonderful opportunity if I didn't join that night.
    The guy was using the same kind of story everyone in MLM uses. And yet, there is only one Facebook, not thousands. So...it's not a very good example.



    Originally Posted by sage12 View Post

    I was thinking in my mind "how the heck you make 6 figures and don't know jack about internet marketing, building niche sites and list building, and you telling me what I'm doing is wrong, and the kind of thinking I possessed?"
    Well, actually there are plenty of businesses that make plenty of money...completely offline. Think...before the internet, were there still businesses? The answer is Yes. And they did really well without e-mail, websites, or selling online.

    The first 30 years I made sales, I wasn't online at all. and I habitually made a six figure income. It isn't unusual.

    And....$100,000 a year isn't really that much. Lots of people with regular jobs earn that much a year or more.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


      The first 30 years I made sales, I wasn't online at all.
      Ah, the good ol' days.
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        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

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    Originally Posted by sage12 View Post

    Truly if he make 6 figures as he claim, he would of understand where I'm going with this. I am surprise this speaker doesn't get it. He started bashing about email list. Then I told him "wouldn't you agree the money is in the list? This apply to every business you're doing." He didn't want to answer me this question and then decided to shake my hand goodbye.
    When someone starts making 6 figures, they are not magically endowed with all marketing knowledge and suddenly become aware of every way there is to make money.

    I'd bet most people making 6 figures in the world would have no idea what a niche site is or know a thing about building a list.

    And I would argue about the whole "money is in the list" thing in 2018. An email list can be useful, but it's not what it once was.

    All of that being said, this was just your typical MLM recruiting douchebag. They are all the same.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      All of that being said, this was just your typical MLM recruiting douchebag. They are all the same.
      Yup. Although most promoters of a money making system say that their system is the best...MLM guys have several pat arguments against anything other than MLM.

      And.....one thing that nobody has touched on, MLM guys are almost exclusively recruited from non-business owners. These are non-business people...trying to build a business.

      So they have no experience in marketing, sales, advertising...they exist in an MLM bubble.
      Even the most successful MLM people really only know their one way to recruits and sell.

      It reminds me of in home salespeople selling vacuum cleaners. Almost all of them only know the one product...the one way of prospecting/selling/closing. they know nothing beyond the basics they were taught when they started.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


        It reminds me of in home salespeople selling vacuum cleaners. Almost all of them only know the one product...the one way of prospecting/selling/closing. they know nothing beyond the basics they were taught when they started.
        1 percent of the population in the USA earns like 400k a year or more .. it is like 7 -9 percent or close to 10 percent that earn over 100k ..the numbers are skewed because a large number of people run their own businesses with good tax strategies .

        and a majority of people will million dollar networks saved 15-30 or more percentt of their income for a 10 20 or 30 years.. and reinvested it ..in either stock market or real estate (of many different types ) ..and about or only 50 percent actually did it running their own businesses ..and building those up over time ..

        seems so many people think there is only one way people use to become a success or make 6 figures or more .. or become a millionaire ..and treat it as some religion

        the mlm goy is not going to set up a mass to preach their religion and let someone else come in and preach another religion of making money..unless they are prepared to demolish and discredit the other guy
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        • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          the numbers are skewed because a large number of people run their own businesses with good tax strategies.
          And lots of cash skimming.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          the mlm guy is not going to set up a mass to preach their religion and let someone else come in and preach another religion of making money..unless they are prepared to demolish and discredit the other guy
          MLM is a very "dog eat dog" business. To most MLM people, not only is every other business model wrong...but their company is the only good one in existence. So they are constantly raiding other down lines.....stealing other people's recruits.

          About 1% of the population is in some kind of MLM. And mostly it's the same 1% getting churned from "new best company" to "now best company".

          Years ago, I had a friend in an MLM. She told me that she had her entire downline going to her home...to listen to a "guest speaker". I asked who it was, and she told me it as a distributor from a different MLM.

          I said "No! He's not coming to give you advice, he's coming to flip your entire downline into his own company. Don't let him show up".

          She said "Oh, he's just coming to tell us how he recruits. He won't try to take my people".

          Off course...of course.....he took her entire downline from her. She never saw it coming. And she quit the next day.

          Humans.
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          • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Humans.
            I'm confused. I thought you said she was into MLM?
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        • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          the mlm goy
          Surely you meant, 'guy.'
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          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

            I'm confused. I thought you said she was into MLM?
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            Surely you meant, 'guy.'
            i saw the typo before i posted and just left it in..see who picked it up first ..haha

            as for the lady .. apperently she was not a believer in never quit or never give up ,,,

            mlm never really interested me ..i know why now.. but i was never really social until the last few years .. so going into peoples houses and building a down line .. when i could barley talk to people face to face..
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

              as for the lady .. apperently she was not a believer in never quit or never give up ,,,

              She had a downline of 25-30 people. It had taken her years to build that up. She lost them all in one evening.

              Remember, almost none of the people in MLM are really business people. They aren't usually entrepreneurs. A blow like losing your entire business in one evening would be enough for most people.

              What I felt most badly about was that she was so innocent, so trusting. She believed everything her upline told her. She thought that MLM people were the cream of the crop.

              She also assumed that her people wouldn't leave her the first time they saw another shiny object.

              I have a friend that had a million dollar a year direct selling business.(in the 1980s) He had built the business over 20 or so years. He had a manager and maybe 10 reps working for him. He left the office with the manager in charge for a weeks vacation.

              He came back to an empty building. The manager stole all his inventory, office equipment, and hired the reps to wok for him.

              My friend had to restart his business from scratch.
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              • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


                I have a friend that had a million dollar a year direct selling business.(in the 1980s) He had built the business over 20 or so years. He had a manager and maybe 10 reps working for him. He left the office with the manager in charge for a weeks vacation.

                He came back to an empty building. The manager stole all his inventory, office equipment, and hired the reps to wok for him.

                My friend had to restart his business from scratch.
                I am happy to go for low six figure income where it is more doable now without needing employees ..or many employees ..my personality is far from politically correct and if i built a traditional business with many employees .. i'd end up with some type of harassment suit.. even if the language is totally acceptable today.. and policies .... you cant trust american workers not to find some reason to sue.. years down the road .. or the government not to make real humans to expensive to employee .. with a 20 or 25 dollar an hour minimum wage 10 25 years from now ..

                so as much tech and automation as possible .. as few real humans as possible..

                I don't need the ego boost to say i have a company doing a few million a year with 30 employees or more .. and only taking home about 100k ..Gary vee talks about when he started working for his father his father was working non stop .. the business was doing 6 million a year and his father was earning 200k from the business ..

                and i have heard that kind of figure range was common with traditional retail.. or traditional businesses until the last decade .. or so ..

                which is why network marketing was and attractive business for non entrepreneurs .
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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                  and i have heard that kind of figure range was common with traditional retail.. or traditional businesses until the last decade .. or so ..

                  which is why network marketing was and attractive business for non entrepreneurs .
                  The fantasy is attractive. The picture that is pained by recruiters is attractive. The business itself is lots of work for a few percent of sales.

                  Again, the vast majority of people that are attracted to MLM are non-business people...non-sales people. In fact, MLM people do anything to keep from saying that the business is sales oriented.


                  And yet, all of MLM is selling. Recruiting is selling, opportunity meetings is selling, it's all selling.

                  Retail stores, and many small businesses can be competently done by people who couldn't sell anything if their life depended on it. Advertising takes the place of cold calling.

                  I just paid $1,300 to have our home pressure washed. The guy is terrible at selling. It was painful talking to him. And yet, his schedule is full.
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                  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    The fantasy is attractive. The picture that is pained by recruiters is attractive. The business itself is lots of work for a few percent of sales.

                    Again, the vast majority of people that are attracted to MLM are non-business people...non-sales people. In fact, MLM people do anything to keep from saying that the business is sales oriented.


                    And yet, all of MLM is selling. Recruiting is selling, opportunity meetings is selling, it's all selling.

                    Retail stores, and many small businesses can be competently done by people who couldn't sell anything if their life depended on it. Advertising takes the place of cold calling.

                    I just paid $1,300 to have our home pressure washed. The guy is terrible at selling. It was painful talking to him. And yet, his schedule is full.
                    So he was not a high pressure salesman.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                      Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                      So he was not a high pressure salesman.
                      Ha!..........hahahahahaha....HA!
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                      • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                        Ha!..........hahahahahaha....HA!
                        We have an electric powered pressure washer, about a year ago I pressure washed the front driveway. It took hours, to do it properly you just do a bit at a time and move on. the sheer act of just standing there with the sprayer, moving slowly forward is very tiring, not to mention boring.

                        I can see why he gets lots of trade.Not a desirable job.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    The fantasy is attractive. The picture that is pained by recruiters is attractive. The business itself is lots of work for a few percent of sales.

                    Again, the vast majority of people that are attracted to MLM are non-business people...non-sales people. In fact, MLM people do anything to keep from saying that the business is sales oriented.


                    And yet, all of MLM is selling. Recruiting is selling, opportunity meetings is selling, it's all selling.

                    Retail stores, and many small businesses can be competently done by people who couldn't sell anything if their life depended on it. Advertising takes the place of cold calling.

                    I just paid $1,300 to have our home pressure washed. The guy is terrible at selling. It was painful talking to him. And yet, his schedule is full.
                    and with the drastically reduced cost of marketing and advertising because of the web social media .. and even having cell phones on them nearly all the time .. if you are not trying to build a chain . or a million dollar business or duplicate yourself or build to cell .. and just go for six figures a year .. not only do many small businesses not require high level sales skills ..many models available today don't even require many of the skills the success industry say entrepreneurs need ..

                    the pressure washer guy probably has a few thousand dollar worth of gear .. and a pick up truck ..and a cell phone .. and a full scheduled making about $1,000 or more a customer.. and maybe very little competition ..

                    a service people need .. that not many people think to do .. as a business..hard to write a business book around that kind of model ..
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                    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
                      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                      and a full scheduled making about $1,000 or more a customer.
                      I get my house, all walkways, dock and driveway done for $350. Not to say that people don't come by and ask for $1000.

                      Competition is the name of the game.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                        I get my house, all walkways, dock and driveway done for $350. Not to say that people don't come by and ask for $1000.

                        Competition is the name of the game.
                        That's because you live in a van.

                        The roof was maybe half of the bill. I sure as hell wasn't going to get up there.

                        And....I called 3 pressure washing guys...left 3 messages...and he was the only one to call back. (If I remember correctly)
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                        • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
                          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                          That's because you live in a van.
                          It's a very large van, for a very large man.

                          The roof was maybe half of the bill. I sure as hell was never going to be able get up there.
                          Corrected for obesity, uh, I mean accuracy!

                          And....I called 3 pressure washing guys...left 3 messages...and he was the only one to call back. (If I remember correctly)
                          Idiot. The others were busier because they had much lower pricing.
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                      • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                        I get my house, all walkways, dock and driveway done for $350. Not to say that people don't come by and ask for $1000.

                        Competition is the name of the game.
                        He forgot to mention that the guy pressure washed him as well, took many extra hours.

                        Claude's used to high pressure Ho's
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                      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                        I get my house, all walkways, dock and driveway done for $350. Not to say that people don't come by and ask for $1000.

                        Competition is the name of the game.
                        people would not be asking if people where not paying.. the guys who get 1000.. are not really competing against the guys who get 350..or there would not be such a gap ..


                        you are just more willing to wait for those who charge the lower rate.. while others just want it done ...and have enough money not to care
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                        • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
                          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                          people would not be asking if people where not paying.. the guys who get 1000.. are not really competing against the guys who get 350..or there would not be such a gap ..

                          you are just more willing to wait for those who charge the lower rate.. while others just want it done ...and have enough money not to care
                          No matter how much money one has, one should never throw it away, needlessly. That's how you wind-up with no money, at all.

                          I don't 'wait. for anyone or anything. I seek out what I want or need. It's called being proactive. If you're that lazy where you're just going to sit back and wait for someone to show-up at your door and ask for $1000 or more and then agree to that, shame on ya'. lol
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                          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                            Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                            No matter how much money one has, one should never throw it away, needlessly. That's how you wind-up with no money, at all.

                            I don't 'wait. for anyone or anything. I seek out what I want or need. It's called being proactive. If you're that lazy where you're just going to sit back and wait for someone to show-up at your door and ask for $1000 or more and then agree to that, shame on ya'. lol
                            geeze .. you know how many in the wealth building community would call buying a brand new luxury BMW or other high end car.. throwing money away ..

                            I don't know how often you get your house driveway and dock pressure washed.. nor do i know how often Claude gets his house pressure washed.. nor do i know which of you has the house with more delicate exterior so you care that the person pressure washing wont screw up the paint job of the house.. now do i know or care why Claude seems to need it done as soon as it can get done..

                            many more factors to consider than just the price ..I am much more interested in why people pay different prices for apparently the same services ..
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                            • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
                              Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                              many more factors to consider than just the price ..I am much more interested in why people pay different prices for apparently the same services ..
                              It's power washing a house, not refurbishing the Louvre.

                              Don't overthink, this. lol

                              BTW - I have my own, high-end power washer. If I had to pay $1000 or more, I'd do it myself. It's actually a very satisfying way to spend a few hours. I loved doing it myself due to the gratification of seeing the end result. Makes the property sparkle. If I can get someone to do it for a third of that price - have at it. I'll sit at my computer and recoup that $350 in no time at all.

                              Oh, if someone thinks that driving a BMW is a waste of money, they either don't have enough money or they don't appreciate the finer things in life. It's that simple!
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                              • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                                Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                                It's power washing a house, not refurbishing the Louvre.

                                Don't overthink, this. lol

                                BTW - I have my own, high-end power washer. If I had to pay $1000 or more, I'd do it myself. It's actually a very satisfying way to spend a few hours. I loved doing it myself due to the gratification of seeing the end result. Makes the property sparkle. If I can get someone to do it for a third of that price - have at it. I'll sit at my computer and recoup that $350 in no time at all.

                                Oh, if someone thinks that driving a BMW is a waste of money, they either don't have enough money or they don't appreciate the finer things in life. It's that simple!
                                you invalidate your own argument about it being a waste of money then.. for someone who may not have their own power washer..probably would not enjoy power washing their own home .. then it is not throwing away money .. for them..
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                                • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
                                  Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                                  you invalidate your own argument about it being a waste of money then.. for someone who may not have their own power washer..probably would not enjoy power washing their own home .. then it is not throwing away money .. for them..
                                  If they're spending over $1000 for what they can get for $350, they are certainly wasting money.

                                  Remind me never to hire you as my financial adviser. I doubt your plot of land will support both of us. Not the way I eat. :-)
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                                  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                                    Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                                    If they're spending over $1000 for what they can get for $350, they are certainly wasting money.

                                    Remind me never to hire you as my financial adviser. I doubt your plot of land will support both of us. Not the way I eat. :-)
                                    well nothing to do with financial advice.. and i would not try growing all my calorie crops..just the nutrient rich crops ..or herbs and spice crops that have Short growing cycles ..stuff with high market value..for people who are willing to buy fresh from local sources .

                                    if you grow your salads mixes and herbs and spices in a garden .. then you are not the person i am selling to ..
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            Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

            Surely you meant, 'guy.'
            I'm obviously Jewish.
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            • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              I'm obviously Jewish.
              You're obviously a schmuck. That's different. :-)
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    Hi Sage,

    If he was that afraid to lose a prospect, he probably does not make 6 figures, Or he does, but it always stressed, so not a fun way to do it.

    Internet marketing is any form of marketing on the internet. Network marketing is based on individuals signing up folks to their downline, related to some business opportunity.
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  • The speaker really don't have any idea about internet marketing. Internet is a great vehicle for wealth nowadays.

    For me Network Marketing still does work but what I don't like about the speaker is he look down on Internet Marketing he doesn't know what he's talking about and who is talking to. If he really did earn that much let's just congratulate him.

    Too bad for him he slip a good opportunity because one day internet will help him get more downlines in the near future.
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    Originally Posted by lusekelo View Post

    That is a very sad lesson
    I agree a plate of uneaten Meatloaf, is very sad.

    Leaving your cake out in the rain is the only thing that comes close.

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  • Profile picture of the author DURABLEOILCOM
    I have to say that people like the speaker you mentioned give Network Marketing/MLM a bad name. There are a million ways to make money in this World but you must follow business ethics and practice good business methods. I have a similar story of a seminar that was going to teach you how to make millions selling on Amazon long story short the speaker gave a 20 minute speech about how rich he was and that we could be too if we simply signed up for their specialized Amazon Training Packages that ranged from $1000 - $20,000. LOL these people were just scamming as many turkeys as they can before the jig is up. A true MLM offers extremely low start up costs, extensive free education, training and support. The main objective is to sell a premium quality product or service that enriches a customer life or solves/facilitate a problem. Recruiting a sales team comes second to sales of said product or services. Any business that forces people to sign up as the main method of profit is a pyramid scheme and not an Official MLM/Networking Marketing business. If training, education and support is not free stay away from that business.
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  • Profile picture of the author chuckholmes
    Interesting story.

    I use both business models together to make a great income and work from home.

    Many network marketers are still stuck in the 1980s, thinking everything has to be done face to face. While those methods do work, they certainly aren't a good fit for everyone.

    I think smart network marketers and companies leverage the internet and face to face selling. This is the ultimate win-win. Use the internet to meet new people and then take the relationship offline as quickly as possible.

    As far as hard-selling and convincing, I can assure you that most PROFESSIONALS do not do that. Most professionals treat their prospects with respect and let them make a decision on their own, without any type of pressure.

    Sorry about your experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    There is a boatload of money in MLM.

    Again, the vast majority of people that are attracted to MLM are non-business people...
    The above is why.

    A bunch of (mostly) clueless newbies who need to outsource everything. Lead generation is the top seller.

    Gotta love people with money to spend!

    Brent
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    • Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      There is a boatload of money in MLM.



      The above is why.

      A bunch of (mostly) clueless newbies who need to outsource everything. Lead generation is the top seller.

      Gotta love people with money to spend!

      Brent
      Yes...maybe the most "inside baseball" about MLM. Most of the money is made selling to the MLM people....training materials and leads are the major sellers.

      The most successful MLM guy I ever met sold air purifiers. In his best year he made $300,000 in override commissions from his downline......another $300,000 from personal sales to consumers..(That was the most impressive part to me). These purifiers sold for $599 each. My friend sold an average of 4 a day personally. I rode with him on the way to lunch. He stopped at 4 businesses on the way and sold 4. He also sold them out of his retail store (as I did). For several years he and I sold in malls during the Christmas season. Highly profitable.

      He had one full time warehouse employee. His sole job was shipping out and receiving these air purifiers.

      But my friend made the most money selling sales aids and leads to his downline and the downline of other distributors. Eventually, the company had to cancel his distributorship because my friend kept stealing other distributor's downlines. He was awe inspiring, relentless, and a little delusional. A force of nature.

      The is maybe 25-30 years ago. The leads were generated by Yellow Page ads out of my friend's area. This is before leads were generated online.
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    • Profile picture of the author chuckholmes
      Yes, we attract a lot of down and out people, unemployed people and people with no business background. Like any other profession, it takes a certain set of skills to succeed in the industry. If you don't have these skills when you first join the industry, you will need to take the time and money to master them.

      It's really no different than becoming a plumber or electrician. The only real difference in our industry compared to most other industries is the LOW BARRIER OF ENTRY financially, plus there is no screening process (credit checks, background checks, etc. ) Anyone can join. That is the blessing and the curse!
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