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  • It 'came to that' a long time ago...consider the thinking (or lack thereof) that makes someone interested in it....
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    • Never has a truer word been spoken.


      Recently, I have seen some very questionable ads. Back in the day those type of ads were never allowed and for what I considered a good reason. Where I come from it is called "Integrity."


      Guess it is called something else in these parts. Acceptable? We support it?


      Makes me think "Guilt by association."


      Makes it very difficult for Mods to police the forum I would imagine.

  • It's something that makes me sick to my stomach...but that's what works.

    The sequence is;
    "You are fine the way you are"
    "It's not your fault that you aren't rich. Something completely beyond your power has been keeping you poor...and stupid""
    "Here is the secret that has been kept from you by the evil overlords"
    "Only I have discovered this well guarded secret"
    "It takes virtually no effort, testing, study, intelligence....to make this work"
    "Give me money"

    In my years of speaking and selling from the stage, at first I tried just telling them that it took lots of effort, and I'd tell them what I did................but they didn't buy.

    You have to appeal to the laziness in them..the wishful thinking....they are buying Hope.

    You are selling HOPE.

    And even if you give them every step to making money (or whatever the goal is), almost nobody will even try. In fact, almost nobody will even listen to the recordings or read the manual.....because...it's....just....too....much.. .trouble.

    Humans.
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    • Thank you for composing my next sales page.
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  • I think part of it is due to the different 'viewpoints' in various counties. What I consider 'unethical' might be viewed as 'a good ploy' in another culture.
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  • Agreed. I would think the mindset would lean towards the visitor statistics since most of the visitors are U.S. based 30% and organic 66% that does not leave much for others unless you account for Au., U.K. and India in the low single digits. Not to mention freelancer is one of the top referring sites.


    Hmm, just noticed the ad at the top of my page. Oh well.
  • I read somewhere a while back, that the titles of wso's etc had to not contain outlandish monetary headings and the like, so not to peddle unrealistic crap on the forum.

    They then do not monitor the paid ads coming in, which of course breaks all of the rules and nullifies any such law enforment.

    Some good thunking going on round here.
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  • I am interested in your offer Jeffery but it must have a sales funnel that upsells to such convenient shortcut's that make it truly effortless to make money. I am prepared to pay and pay handsomely for this. Due to the early onset of rigor mortis, I am barely able to lift a finger.

    Just as well I have slaves, some of whom can read and write, to type this for me.
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  • Jeffery how much is it? PM me your PayPal so I can get it to you. I assume there is a 90-day sit on my fat tail sucking my thumb watching Oprah and Matlock reruns all day guarantee, right?

    When does the 1-1 coaching start? I figure for $9 or so (better not be more than that!!), an hour a day for the next 3 months should almost make your offer worth it.

    Let me know. I'm excited to get going!
    Mark

    PS Do I need a website?
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  • What's the best autoresponder to use for your program?
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  • Hi Jeffery,

    When I chose to move up in circles I distanced myself from:

    - this crowd
    - those ads
    - that energy

    Energy deal, really. Moving up the scale toward fun, love and service moves you away from fear, malice and hunger, those energies that drive folks who create such ads.
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  • Wow, Jeffrey, count me in!!!!

    I have been waiting my whole life for an opportunity like this, but with Jupiter getting in my way, and the occasional black cat, and my psychic spiders high death rate, and landing on black, l wasn't able to get anywhere.

    I have already maxed out my credit card, and sent you everything via Western Union, although when l get to the postage and handling, part it says "PAY ME EVERYTHING AGAIN FOR POSTAGE AND HANDLING".

    So l will have to raid my super account, under the hardship clause, and send you that.

    PLEASE, be patient, l NEED THE PILL!

    BAAA, HAAA, BAAAA!

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  • Fixed that for ya.

    I say, give the people what they want. I've lost all sympathy for fools. If people want to pay someone for a fantasy, it might as well be me.

    I'll invest their money in my Grandchildren.

    Brent
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    • Everyone has their personal rules.
      Me? In my books and courses.. it was always what I did myself...tested, proven, and I would give every detail needed to accomplish what I promised.

      The hard part was understanding that the moment they receive my stuff....my responsibility ends. I had to accept that if they never opened the package...or never put any of it to work....it wasn't any of my business.

      One of the main reasons I switched to a "Do everything for them" service, is that now they had no responsibility other than to pay me. And I know the work would get done.

      Are there people out there that buy from you, implement what you taught them, and are action oriented? Yes. But if you only appeal to them, you'll starve.

      The vast majority of people are wannabes......they buy what feeds their fantasy.

      Do you know the single most important feature of an exercise machine? Will it fit under a bed....hidden away...so it will be forgotten instead of returned.

      That's us.
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  • Shhh, don't let them know you can read or else they will make you part of their Target Market.



    No problem. I have a Pill that cures all. It is available after you pay for the Front End Offer on one of the funnels Upsale pages.



    Wish I had enough posts to send the PM. Never fear though, the PayPal email is:
    90.day.sit.on.my.fat.tail.sucking.my.thumb.watchin g.oprah.and.matlock.reruns.all.day.guarantee [at] shiny.objects.com (er .scam) Note: If your email filters it simplu use: thereisoneborneveryday [at] scam.com


    There are many and we suggest the free one with minimal ads of our own design that sends your sub to a landing page of our own design:
    the.check.is.in.the.mail [dot] com



    Unfortunately, many people will "buy into" the program and end up in the Poorhouse.



    Perfect in every way! Already set it up and you will receive a f.r.e.e. 90-day supply of "The Pill" once PAYMENT is received of course



    Wow, when the "fools" start posting and pointing fingers I know how I will reply to them.
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  • In retrospect, there are a lot of good ads. Unfortunately, the good ads will most likely be tainted by the bad ads, i.e. guilty by association.

    Brand recognition can be a double-edged sword in a bad way depending on the association.

    I don't have a dog in the fight. The good advertisers do, so only they can do something about it and until they man-up.. well alrighty then.
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    • He didn't suggest he was superior than others.


      He highlighted uncreative, stereotypical and bottom of the barrel techniques used time and time again by 'other such guys' who assume others to be impressionable and desperate fools...
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    • Are you serious?

      For one, most legitimate marketers are.. legitimate. My own "features" are:

      1. There are NO Pills that will make you get rich quick and if there there were everyone on the planet that wants to be rich would be on the pill and everyone on the planet would be rich.

      2. My training does not suggest in any shape or form that anyone and everyone can be trained to be an entrepreneur.

      Those are just two of my own reasons why..

      My own training is better than other such guys (those that push get rich schemes and shiny (shitty) objects).

      Jeffery 100%
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  • Summed it up.
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  • Make sure that your Depends are pulled snug: https://kopywritingkourse.com/how-to...ple-for-money/

    You can thank me, later!
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    • Thanks Frank that was hilarious.

      14 people rent out a luxery house for a few days, so for about $600 each, they can go around with a video camera and boast about their supposed wealth, lol,.

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    • What;s funny is that this is mostly what you really see, and is the framework for nearly all "Get Rich" programs sold online....legitimate or not.

      And...the real...best.. information is the pitch itself.

      I've read a few books on selling that are really just sales letters for a training program. A few are really good too. I read the reviews that say "It's just a sales pitch".

      To me, there is no "just" about it. The sales pitch is there in complete detail. That's what you study. Do you want to learn from a great salesperson? Watch their sales presentation.

      When I used to go to the Dan Kennedy multi day events, it was to study the platform salespeople (and to make sales). The notes I took weren't mostly about their content, but about how they presented...what appeals they used, their use of humor, what stories they told and in what order, how they involved the audience, how they established value, how they closed. That was where the learning was for me.

      What's sad to me is that, if you sell a program for making money, most people will believe the claims, true or not.

      But what makes me sadder is that these are the claims you need to make to make the sale at all. Like I said before, you can sell "get rich" information by just explaining it in a real way, but most people that buy these programs are feeding a fantasy that they have. This may be the 12th program they have bought....and just buying a program makes them feel like they are doing something.

      You are selling a dream. You are selling hope.

      I just can't stomach selling that way any more. It's time to quit when you feel contempt for your audience.
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  • I personally don't feel sorry anymore for those that fall for this kind of scams. If you are so gullible to believe there is a secret that is going to be exposed to you for 99.99$ and it's going to make you a millionaire, fitness model or both, you deserve your money to be taken from you. Hee
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    • I know what you mean and I don't think Warriors deserve it. The point is that sort of thing is advertised on the forum. I just don't see the integrity.
  • As a young man, I remember driving with some of my friends through a great neighborhood. Large newer homes with beautiful landscaping, and newer nice cars in the drive....

    My friends said things like;
    "It must be nice"
    "I wonder how many people they screwed to get the house?"
    "I'd have a house like that too if I didn't pay taxes like them"
    "It's all in who you know"
    "They have rich parents, all of them".

    Me? I said "I wonder what they know that we don't?"
    A key moment in my life.

    the great part about this list .. is except for the rich parents part .. a lot of the list is valid .. but it's the same backwards complaint .. people who decry income inequality make when they complain that the 1 percent make much of their money from assets and other investments that are taxed at much lower rates than wages ..

    i hear that ..and i started studying the tax code and asset classes.. something they don't want workers learning in school..you need the masses dependent on jobs ..at least until you replace them all with robots ..

    a lot of my outlook has changed in the last few years ..really started when i went to Vegas almost three years ago ..and worked as a street performer until the rules on the strip change against it ..

    I am starting to think i can tell who is wealthy or richer..or broke or poor or middle class .. just by how they speak ..about money

    in my mindset .. my only real entitlements are what ever tax write off's i can design into the next business i build .. easier to write ten thousand off then get a 900 dollar a month check from the government
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    • The unfortunate consequence of blaming others for your lack of success...or giving reasons (like those above) as to the advantage that the 1% has over the rest of us....

      Is that it keeps us from trying at all. We see these obstacles as a brick wall that we can't get through.

      The truth is, being born poor is a handicap. So is being short, female, black (or anyone of color).....these are all obstacles to overcome. but it just takes a little longer...the hurtles are a little higher....Some obstacles are more daunting than others..and not everyone can make it....often luck plays a part...good or bad.

      But most of the 99% didn't fail. It's that they weren't aware of how to get further ahead.

      I was at a convention, riding in a bus with a woman next to me (a very successful one). We drove past a poor area that was mostly populated by Mexican farm workers.

      She said "Look at those people. If they weren't so lazy, they could amount to something" (or words to that effect)

      I said "No. these people work harder than you or I ever will. If I put in a work day like any of them, it would cripple me. They aren't lazy at all. And they aren't stupid. They just aren't aware of opportunities that you and I are aware of. Their work is honorable and necessary. "




      OK, now I'm rambling.
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  • Agreed, people want quick and easy, not slow and hard.

    Yes, well aware of that one in my country.

    No Claude, there is more to it than that, this gets back to Frank Kerns "Super List Builder", can't remember that exact name product, which originally costed, around the $1,500 mark.

    The only section that l was interested in was the, "share my deepest secrets, that are virtually guaranteed to create wealth from your list", (l think that he was sharing what he shares with his 10k a month elite group, or something like that).

    Thankfully l didn't seriously consider that one, and later was able to get access to it through an associate, and yep, no magic formula, just good advise about putting a sales funnel on steroids.

    For that kind of money people want an exclusive list of 100,000 virgin buyers, so you can recover most of the cost or make a profit over time, not be told something that is obvious!

    Nothing wrong with selling a dream, for a high price, as long as you deliver.

    Most if not all, ask a dream amount and don't give much back.

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    • tbh I would wanna toss a coin dependin' on mood.


      Thing is, plenty I see here in this comment trail is real smart stuff.


      We all lookin' in on brighter fyootures, spesho as Noo Year gears up to drop, an' while transformational change might appear to be the way superhero option, plenty people jus' wanna few more years to hang out in their regular clothes before they gotta go combat evil.


      Always, we pitchin' believable steps forward -- tangible advances to reach out an' grab, commensurate with our beliefs an' deloosions & preferably not requirin' we sell our own parents in order to reap the benefits.
  • here is the latest edition to air, only 3 spots remaining, and I just registered 3 fake accounts yet 3 still remain .

    yet while these ads run in full view the warrior forum does not allow to words of such grandeur, I guess money talks, or what little they can gather from the remaining options they have. One thing is very clear and this there is no approval required to run any bull ad here.



    the site is a pile of junk filled with even more alluring promises.

  • OMG, really? REALLY!? Where do I sign? Please, oh please, just take my money already!
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  • Thanks for your information.

    Great information provided by you.
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  • It feels like this has been around forever, but after all this time some people still get fooled and thus this strategy persists. It's a shame really, makes me very pessimistic about trusting people on the internet. It's especially annoying when this kind of advertising is used to promote low quality courses and tutorials, makes it look like all of them are piles of trash.
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    • Usually outdated PLR business material or software, (from a $50 a month all you can eat site) that was all the rage in the early 90's, but is one step away from being a useless piece of crap.

      Then they pile on the sales copy and images of the supposed guy telling you his story walking his two white, tall dogs along the beach each morning.

      But they did improve the product visuals of the 90's throwback, from blurry to less blurry.

  • I want to be rich and want to quit my tiring 9 to 5 job. i need someone to sell me a dream. is there anyone i can buy a dream from?
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  • I think part of it is due to the different 'viewpoints' in various counties.
  • Not at all surprised that there are dishonest ways of sports betting. It is unlikely that they are limited only to the knowledge of fake matches and paid games. There must be something else.
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