Never has a truer word been spoken.


Recently, I have seen some very questionable ads. Back in the day those type of ads were never allowed and for what I considered a good reason. Where I come from it is called "Integrity."


Guess it is called something else in these parts. Acceptable? We support it?


Makes me think "Guilt by association."


Makes it very difficult for Mods to police the forum I would imagine.

Thank you for composing my next sales page.

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Love this!

Everyone has their personal rules.
Me? In my books and courses.. it was always what I did myself...tested, proven, and I would give every detail needed to accomplish what I promised.

The hard part was understanding that the moment they receive my stuff....my responsibility ends. I had to accept that if they never opened the package...or never put any of it to work....it wasn't any of my business.

One of the main reasons I switched to a "Do everything for them" service, is that now they had no responsibility other than to pay me. And I know the work would get done.

Are there people out there that buy from you, implement what you taught them, and are action oriented? Yes. But if you only appeal to them, you'll starve.

The vast majority of people are wannabes......they buy what feeds their fantasy.

Do you know the single most important feature of an exercise machine? Will it fit under a bed....hidden away...so it will be forgotten instead of returned.

That's us.

He didn't suggest he was superior than others.


He highlighted uncreative, stereotypical and bottom of the barrel techniques used time and time again by 'other such guys' who assume others to be impressionable and desperate fools...

Are you serious?

For one, most legitimate marketers are.. legitimate. My own "features" are:

1. There are NO Pills that will make you get rich quick and if there there were everyone on the planet that wants to be rich would be on the pill and everyone on the planet would be rich.

2. My training does not suggest in any shape or form that anyone and everyone can be trained to be an entrepreneur.

Those are just two of my own reasons why..

My own training is better than other such guys (those that push get rich schemes and shiny (shitty) objects).

Jeffery 100%

Thanks Frank that was hilarious.

14 people rent out a luxery house for a few days, so for about $600 each, they can go around with a video camera and boast about their supposed wealth, lol,.

What;s funny is that this is mostly what you really see, and is the framework for nearly all "Get Rich" programs sold online....legitimate or not.

And...the real...best.. information is the pitch itself.

I've read a few books on selling that are really just sales letters for a training program. A few are really good too. I read the reviews that say "It's just a sales pitch".

To me, there is no "just" about it. The sales pitch is there in complete detail. That's what you study. Do you want to learn from a great salesperson? Watch their sales presentation.

When I used to go to the Dan Kennedy multi day events, it was to study the platform salespeople (and to make sales). The notes I took weren't mostly about their content, but about how they presented...what appeals they used, their use of humor, what stories they told and in what order, how they involved the audience, how they established value, how they closed. That was where the learning was for me.

What's sad to me is that, if you sell a program for making money, most people will believe the claims, true or not.

But what makes me sadder is that these are the claims you need to make to make the sale at all. Like I said before, you can sell "get rich" information by just explaining it in a real way, but most people that buy these programs are feeding a fantasy that they have. This may be the 12th program they have bought....and just buying a program makes them feel like they are doing something.

You are selling a dream. You are selling hope.

I just can't stomach selling that way any more. It's time to quit when you feel contempt for your audience.

I know what you mean and I don't think Warriors deserve it. The point is that sort of thing is advertised on the forum. I just don't see the integrity.

The unfortunate consequence of blaming others for your lack of success...or giving reasons (like those above) as to the advantage that the 1% has over the rest of us....

Is that it keeps us from trying at all. We see these obstacles as a brick wall that we can't get through.

The truth is, being born poor is a handicap. So is being short, female, black (or anyone of color).....these are all obstacles to overcome. but it just takes a little longer...the hurtles are a little higher....Some obstacles are more daunting than others..and not everyone can make it....often luck plays a part...good or bad.

But most of the 99% didn't fail. It's that they weren't aware of how to get further ahead.

I was at a convention, riding in a bus with a woman next to me (a very successful one). We drove past a poor area that was mostly populated by Mexican farm workers.

She said "Look at those people. If they weren't so lazy, they could amount to something" (or words to that effect)

I said "No. these people work harder than you or I ever will. If I put in a work day like any of them, it would cripple me. They aren't lazy at all. And they aren't stupid. They just aren't aware of opportunities that you and I are aware of. Their work is honorable and necessary. "




OK, now I'm rambling.

tbh I would wanna toss a coin dependin' on mood.


Thing is, plenty I see here in this comment trail is real smart stuff.


We all lookin' in on brighter fyootures, spesho as Noo Year gears up to drop, an' while transformational change might appear to be the way superhero option, plenty people jus' wanna few more years to hang out in their regular clothes before they gotta go combat evil.


Always, we pitchin' believable steps forward -- tangible advances to reach out an' grab, commensurate with our beliefs an' deloosions & preferably not requirin' we sell our own parents in order to reap the benefits.

Yeah, what can l say.

Usually outdated PLR business material or software, (from a $50 a month all you can eat site) that was all the rage in the early 90's, but is one step away from being a useless piece of crap.

Then they pile on the sales copy and images of the supposed guy telling you his story walking his two white, tall dogs along the beach each morning.

But they did improve the product visuals of the 90's throwback, from blurry to less blurry.

I had a dream last night. It's yours for $5.