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STEP BY STEP: HOW TO GO FROM ZERO TO $10K...$100k...OR EVEN $1MILLION IN SALES, SELLING OTHER PEOPLE'S PRODUCTS, STARTING FROM SCRATCH
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    It 'came to that' a long time ago...consider the thinking (or lack thereof) that makes someone interested in it....
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      It 'came to that' a long time ago...consider the thinking (or lack thereof) that makes someone interested in it....
      Never has a truer word been spoken.


      Recently, I have seen some very questionable ads. Back in the day those type of ads were never allowed and for what I considered a good reason. Where I come from it is called "Integrity."


      Guess it is called something else in these parts. Acceptable? We support it?


      Makes me think "Guilt by association."


      Makes it very difficult for Mods to police the forum I would imagine.
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    Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

    STEP BY STEP: HOW TO GO FROM ZERO TO $10K...$100k...OR EVEN $1MILLION IN SALES, SELLING OTHER PEOPLE'S PRODUCTS, STARTING FROM SCRATCH
    ETC ETC

    [The Success Pill] 96% of the affiliates make less than $1000 ... Be different. Take The Pill [HOT]

    You don't need ANY SKILLS to succeed as an entrepreneur - we provide training!

    Put simply..

    All you need to do is PAY ME MONEY.

    And if you do not have the skills to PAY ME MONEY - I'll Train you!

    Once you are in all you have to do is take "The Success Pill"
    aka
    Boy do I have a bright shiny object for you.

    P.S.

    Do your Mom right! We can take her money too.

    Please be advised that income and results shown are extraordinary and are not intended to serve as guarantees. Etc. Etc.

    It's something that makes me sick to my stomach...but that's what works.

    The sequence is;
    "You are fine the way you are"
    "It's not your fault that you aren't rich. Something completely beyond your power has been keeping you poor...and stupid""
    "Here is the secret that has been kept from you by the evil overlords"
    "Only I have discovered this well guarded secret"
    "It takes virtually no effort, testing, study, intelligence....to make this work"
    "Give me money"

    In my years of speaking and selling from the stage, at first I tried just telling them that it took lots of effort, and I'd tell them what I did................but they didn't buy.

    You have to appeal to the laziness in them..the wishful thinking....they are buying Hope.

    You are selling HOPE.

    And even if you give them every step to making money (or whatever the goal is), almost nobody will even try. In fact, almost nobody will even listen to the recordings or read the manual.....because...it's....just....too....much.. .trouble.

    Humans.
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      The sequence is;
      "You are fine the way you are"
      "It's not your fault that you aren't rich. Something completely beyond your power has been keeping you poor...and stupid""
      "Here is the secret that has been kept from you by the evil overlords"
      "Only I have discovered this well guarded secret"
      "It takes virtually no effort, testing, study, intelligence....to make this work"
      "Give me money"
      Thank you for composing my next sales page.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I think part of it is due to the different 'viewpoints' in various counties. What I consider 'unethical' might be viewed as 'a good ploy' in another culture.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    Agreed. I would think the mindset would lean towards the visitor statistics since most of the visitors are U.S. based 30% and organic 66% that does not leave much for others unless you account for Au., U.K. and India in the low single digits. Not to mention freelancer is one of the top referring sites.


    Hmm, just noticed the ad at the top of my page. Oh well.
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    I read somewhere a while back, that the titles of wso's etc had to not contain outlandish monetary headings and the like, so not to peddle unrealistic crap on the forum.

    They then do not monitor the paid ads coming in, which of course breaks all of the rules and nullifies any such law enforment.

    Some good thunking going on round here.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
      Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

      I read somewhere a while back, that the titles of wso's etc had to not contain outlandish monetary headings and the like, so not to peddle unrealistic crap on the forum.

      They then do not monitor the paid ads coming in, which of course breaks all of the rules and nullifies any such law enforment.

      Some good thunking going on round here.

      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      It 'came to that' a long time ago...consider the thinking (or lack thereof) that makes someone interested in it....

      ^ This ^


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  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

    STEP BY STEP: HOW TO GO FROM ZERO TO $10K...$100k...OR EVEN $1MILLION IN SALES, SELLING OTHER PEOPLE'S PRODUCTS, STARTING FROM SCRATCH
    ETC ETC

    [The Success Pill] 96% of the affiliates make less than $1000 ... Be different. Take The Pill [HOT]

    You don't need ANY SKILLS to succeed as an entrepreneur - we provide training!

    Put simply..

    All you need to do is PAY ME MONEY.

    And if you do not have the skills to PAY ME MONEY - I'll Train you!

    Once you are in all you have to do is take "The Success Pill"
    aka
    Boy do I have a bright shiny object for you.

    P.S.

    Do your Mom right! We can take her money too.

    Please be advised that income and results shown are extraordinary and are not intended to serve as guarantees. Etc. Etc.
    I am interested in your offer Jeffery but it must have a sales funnel that upsells to such convenient shortcut's that make it truly effortless to make money. I am prepared to pay and pay handsomely for this. Due to the early onset of rigor mortis, I am barely able to lift a finger.

    Just as well I have slaves, some of whom can read and write, to type this for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Jeffery how much is it? PM me your PayPal so I can get it to you. I assume there is a 90-day sit on my fat tail sucking my thumb watching Oprah and Matlock reruns all day guarantee, right?

    When does the 1-1 coaching start? I figure for $9 or so (better not be more than that!!), an hour a day for the next 3 months should almost make your offer worth it.

    Let me know. I'm excited to get going!
    Mark

    PS Do I need a website?
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    What's the best autoresponder to use for your program?
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Hi Jeffery,

    When I chose to move up in circles I distanced myself from:

    - this crowd
    - those ads
    - that energy

    Energy deal, really. Moving up the scale toward fun, love and service moves you away from fear, malice and hunger, those energies that drive folks who create such ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

    STEP BY STEP: HOW TO GO FROM ZERO TO $10K...$100k...OR EVEN $1MILLION IN SALES, SELLING OTHER PEOPLE'S PRODUCTS, STARTING FROM SCRATCH
    ETC ETC

    [The Success Pill] 96% of the affiliates make less than $1000 ... Be different. Take The Pill [HOT]

    You don't need ANY SKILLS to succeed as an entrepreneur - we provide training!

    Put simply..

    All you need to do is PAY ME MONEY.

    And if you do not have the skills to PAY ME MONEY - I'll Train you!

    Once you are in all you have to do is take "The Success Pill"
    aka
    Boy do I have a bright shiny object for you.

    P.S.

    Do your Mom right! We can take her money too.

    Please be advised that income and results shown are extraordinary and are not intended to serve as guarantees. Etc. Etc.
    Wow, Jeffrey, count me in!!!!

    I have been waiting my whole life for an opportunity like this, but with Jupiter getting in my way, and the occasional black cat, and my psychic spiders high death rate, and landing on black, l wasn't able to get anywhere.

    I have already maxed out my credit card, and sent you everything via Western Union, although when l get to the postage and handling, part it says "PAY ME EVERYTHING AGAIN FOR POSTAGE AND HANDLING".

    So l will have to raid my super account, under the hardship clause, and send you that.

    PLEASE, be patient, l NEED THE PILL!

    BAAA, HAAA, BAAAA!

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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    the wishful thinking....they are buying dreams.

    You are selling dreams.
    Fixed that for ya.

    I say, give the people what they want. I've lost all sympathy for fools. If people want to pay someone for a fantasy, it might as well be me.

    I'll invest their money in my Grandchildren.

    Brent
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      Fixed that for ya.

      I say, give the people what they want. I've lost all sympathy for fools. If people want to pay someone for a fantasy, it might as well be me.

      I'll invest their money in my Grandchildren.

      Brent
      Everyone has their personal rules.
      Me? In my books and courses.. it was always what I did myself...tested, proven, and I would give every detail needed to accomplish what I promised.

      The hard part was understanding that the moment they receive my stuff....my responsibility ends. I had to accept that if they never opened the package...or never put any of it to work....it wasn't any of my business.

      One of the main reasons I switched to a "Do everything for them" service, is that now they had no responsibility other than to pay me. And I know the work would get done.

      Are there people out there that buy from you, implement what you taught them, and are action oriented? Yes. But if you only appeal to them, you'll starve.

      The vast majority of people are wannabes......they buy what feeds their fantasy.

      Do you know the single most important feature of an exercise machine? Will it fit under a bed....hidden away...so it will be forgotten instead of returned.

      That's us.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Everyone has their personal rules.
        Me? In my books and courses.. it was always what I did myself...tested, proven, and I would give every detail needed to accomplish what I promised.

        Yikes, I've been to the brig for less.


        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        The hard part was understanding that the moment they receive my stuff....my responsibility ends. I had to accept that if they never opened the package...or never put any of it to work....it wasn't any of my business.

        That line never worked for me in Thailand.


        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        One of the main reasons I switched to a "Do everything for them" service, is that now they had no responsibility other than to pay me. And I know the work would get done.

        Here is a dollar.. hold this.


        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Are there people out there that buy from you, implement what you taught them, and are action oriented? Yes. But if you only appeal to them, you'll starve.

        I am still waiting for someone to buy something.


        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        The vast majority of people are wannabes......they buy what feeds their fantasy.

        No wonder I am broke.


        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Do you know the single most important feature of an exercise machine? Will it fit under a bed....hidden away...so it will be forgotten instead of returned.

        Darn right!

        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        That's us.

        All the way to the bank.


        IAS.. great post Claude.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

    I read somewhere a while back, that the titles of wso's etc had to not contain outlandish monetary headings and the like, so not to peddle unrealistic crap on the forum.

    They then do not monitor the paid ads coming in, which of course breaks all of the rules and nullifies any such law enforment.

    Some good thunking going on round here.

    Shhh, don't let them know you can read or else they will make you part of their Target Market.


    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

    I am interested in your offer Jeffery but it must have a sales funnel that upsells to such convenient shortcut's that make it truly effortless to make money. I am prepared to pay and pay handsomely for this. Due to the early onset of rigor mortis, I am barely able to lift a finger.

    Just as well I have slaves, some of whom can read and write, to type this for me.

    No problem. I have a Pill that cures all. It is available after you pay for the Front End Offer on one of the funnels Upsale pages.


    Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

    Jeffery how much is it? PM me your PayPal so I can get it to you. I assume there is a 90-day sit on my fat tail sucking my thumb watching Oprah and Matlock reruns all day guarantee, right?

    When does the 1-1 coaching start? I figure for $9 or so (better not be more than that!!), an hour a day for the next 3 months should almost make your offer worth it.

    Let me know. I'm excited to get going!
    Mark

    PS Do I need a website?

    Wish I had enough posts to send the PM. Never fear though, the PayPal email is:
    90.day.sit.on.my.fat.tail.sucking.my.thumb.watchin g.oprah.and.matlock.reruns.all.day.guarantee [at] shiny.objects.com (er .scam) Note: If your email filters it simplu use: thereisoneborneveryday [at] scam.com

    Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

    What's the best autoresponder to use for your program?

    There are many and we suggest the free one with minimal ads of our own design that sends your sub to a landing page of our own design:
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    Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

    Hi Jeffery,

    When I chose to move up in circles I distanced myself from:

    - this crowd
    - those ads
    - that energy

    Energy deal, really. Moving up the scale toward fun, love and service moves you away from fear, malice and hunger, those energies that drive folks who create such ads.

    Unfortunately, many people will "buy into" the program and end up in the Poorhouse.


    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

    Wow, Jeffrey, count me in!!!!

    I have been waiting my whole life for an opportunity like this, but with Jupiter getting in my way, and the occasional black cat, and my psychic spiders high death rate, and landing on black, l wasn't able to get anywhere.

    I have already maxed out my credit card, and sent you everything via Western Union, although when l get to the postage and handling, part it says "PAY ME EVERYTHING AGAIN FOR POSTAGE AND HANDLING".

    So l will have to raid my super account, under the hardship clause, and send you that.

    PLEASE, be patient, l NEED THE PILL!

    BAAA, HAAA, BAAAA!


    Perfect in every way! Already set it up and you will receive a f.r.e.e. 90-day supply of "The Pill" once PAYMENT is received of course


    Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

    Fixed that for ya.

    I say, give the people what they want. I've lost all sympathy for fools. If people want to pay someone for a fantasy, it might as well be me.

    I'll invest their money in my Grandchildren.

    Brent

    Wow, when the "fools" start posting and pointing fingers I know how I will reply to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    In retrospect, there are a lot of good ads. Unfortunately, the good ads will most likely be tainted by the bad ads, i.e. guilty by association.

    Brand recognition can be a double-edged sword in a bad way depending on the association.

    I don't have a dog in the fight. The good advertisers do, so only they can do something about it and until they man-up.. well alrighty then.
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  • Profile picture of the author KIORTY
    The post is interesting but can you tell why you are better than other such guys? Point out some of your own features as a trainer in this area please )
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      Originally Posted by KIORTY View Post

      The post is interesting but can you tell why you are better than other such guys? Point out some of your own features as a trainer in this area please )

      He didn't suggest he was superior than others.


      He highlighted uncreative, stereotypical and bottom of the barrel techniques used time and time again by 'other such guys' who assume others to be impressionable and desperate fools...
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
      Originally Posted by KIORTY View Post

      The post is interesting but can you tell why you are better than other such guys? Point out some of your own features as a trainer in this area please )

      Are you serious?

      For one, most legitimate marketers are.. legitimate. My own "features" are:

      1. There are NO Pills that will make you get rich quick and if there there were everyone on the planet that wants to be rich would be on the pill and everyone on the planet would be rich.

      2. My training does not suggest in any shape or form that anyone and everyone can be trained to be an entrepreneur.

      Those are just two of my own reasons why..

      My own training is better than other such guys (those that push get rich schemes and shiny (shitty) objects).

      Jeffery 100%
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    Summed it up.
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    Make sure that your Depends are pulled snug: https://kopywritingkourse.com/how-to...ple-for-money/

    You can thank me, later!
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

      Make sure that your Depends are pulled snug: https://kopywritingkourse.com/how-to...ple-for-money/

      You can thank me, later!
      Thanks Frank that was hilarious.

      14 people rent out a luxery house for a few days, so for about $600 each, they can go around with a video camera and boast about their supposed wealth, lol,.

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        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Thanks Frank that was hilarious.

        14 people rent out a luxery house for a few days, so for about $600 each, they can go around with a video camera and boast about their supposed wealth, lol,.

        It's like how Claude makes all of his videos in the vacuum department at Walmart.
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        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Thanks Frank that was hilarious.

        14 people rent out a luxery house for a few days, so for about $600 each, they can go around with a video camera and boast about their supposed wealth, lol,.


        Tag,


        That is not what he meant. There is a hidden gem in the post and the link/page that reveals "sumthang." Think about the subject of this thread and dig deeper.


        Frank is doing everyone a "goodthang" so just follow the yellow brick road.
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

          Tag,


          That is not what he meant. There is a hidden gem in the post and the link/page that reveals "sumthang." Think about the subject of this thread and dig deeper.


          Frank is doing everyone a "goodthang" so just follow the yellow brick road.
          Bad grammer?

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            Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

            Bad grammer?

            More along the lines of reverse social engineering with shades of old school cyber sleuthing.
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

              More along the lines of reverse social engineering with shades of old school cyber sleuthing.
              Ah, all of the money was in the room, he couldn't get into!

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      Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

      Make sure that your Depends are pulled snug: https://kopywritingkourse.com/how-to...ple-for-money/

      You can thank me, later!
      What;s funny is that this is mostly what you really see, and is the framework for nearly all "Get Rich" programs sold online....legitimate or not.

      And...the real...best.. information is the pitch itself.

      I've read a few books on selling that are really just sales letters for a training program. A few are really good too. I read the reviews that say "It's just a sales pitch".

      To me, there is no "just" about it. The sales pitch is there in complete detail. That's what you study. Do you want to learn from a great salesperson? Watch their sales presentation.

      When I used to go to the Dan Kennedy multi day events, it was to study the platform salespeople (and to make sales). The notes I took weren't mostly about their content, but about how they presented...what appeals they used, their use of humor, what stories they told and in what order, how they involved the audience, how they established value, how they closed. That was where the learning was for me.

      What's sad to me is that, if you sell a program for making money, most people will believe the claims, true or not.

      But what makes me sadder is that these are the claims you need to make to make the sale at all. Like I said before, you can sell "get rich" information by just explaining it in a real way, but most people that buy these programs are feeding a fantasy that they have. This may be the 12th program they have bought....and just buying a program makes them feel like they are doing something.

      You are selling a dream. You are selling hope.

      I just can't stomach selling that way any more. It's time to quit when you feel contempt for your audience.
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      • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        This may be the 12th program they have bought
        There's no one easier to sell to.

        "Look, I get it, you've bought 3, 6, 9, 12 - maybe more programs in the past, all promising the same thing - untold riches. I feel badly that I didn't get my product in front of you before making all those mistakes, but in a perverse way, it's a good thing, because now - now you'll be able to see why this will be the last product you'll ever purchase."

        After 12 mistakes, who won't take one more gamble???
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        What;s funny is that this is mostly what you really see, and is the framework for nearly all "Get Rich" programs sold online....legitimate or not.

        And...the real...best.. information is the pitch itself.

        Reminds me of working for my uncle at traditional offline auctions. He was very successful.


        After four weeks of his mentoring and traveling with him to auctions he sent me solo to an auction. When I returned he said I made two times the profit he expected me to make and had called the auction house to find out what happened.


        Now back in the day an auctioneer typically told the crowd what the item was and a very brief (if any at all) description of the product and would immediately start the bidding.


        That always seemed lacking to me and I mentioned that many a time to my uncle at previous auctions.


        At this particular auction I knew the same would happen, so I made it clear to the auctioneer that I would give a brief pitch and with a signal the auctioneer would start the bidding.


        End result was we sold twice the products and earned basically twice the usual profit. Admittedly, if I was not such a greenhorn we could have done better.


        Went back to the auction house four weeks later. This time accompanied by my uncle. This time I was armed with more knowledge about the high-end products.


        Earned a little more profit and nothing to more.


        On the way back home, it was a long ride, my uncle said did good and passed stage one training. "Stage one?" I asked. He smiled and said something like "Stage two of two of my training started now."


        It was the first time I ever heard "keyword" and "keyword phrase" and "know your market" and others. He taught me to relate to the buyers with keywords and phrases and more importantly they all want high value products as cheap as possible. He also taught me a lot about profit margins.


        To my surprise we did not go home. We traveled to the warehouse, restocked the van and headed for a different auction. He explained this particular auction was known among sellers as the Hard-Sell. When done right the profits could be amazing. When done wrong the profit could be miserable.


        When we arrived. day and half later, he introduced me to the owner, surprised me by saying goodbye, he was going to church (meaning a poker game) and there I was. Another four hours later, same scenario as with the previous auctioneers was arranged, followed my uncle's advise utilizing brief keywords and phrases. Long story short, we broke some of the house records for quantity of sales and my uncle later said we broke his own record for profits.


        Thought that would at least earn me a bonus and an extra day off. Not! Uncle pointed me to a rented car and gave me a schedule. Back in the day rented cars were unheard of and it was my first. Mission?



        This time he said I would work for two other gentlemen and just keep on keeping on. Right? Whatever? I had the keys to a new car a full tank and I was okay with that. Still needed one more thing that all young and dumb men need.



        First thing I did was call my girlfriend, told her to pack a suit case and did a beeline to her house. Heck, uncle would understand I thought. He did. My aunt was a different story. I ended up getting me and my uncle in hot water. He just grinned.


        At the auction, pretty much the same thing happened at the previous auctions except for some prime time breaks between auctions if you know what I mean
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    I personally don't feel sorry anymore for those that fall for this kind of scams. If you are so gullible to believe there is a secret that is going to be exposed to you for 99.99$ and it's going to make you a millionaire, fitness model or both, you deserve your money to be taken from you. Hee
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
      Originally Posted by King Manu View Post

      I personally don't feel sorry anymore for those that fall for this kind of scams. If you are so gullible to believe there is a secret that is going to be exposed to you for 99.99$ and it's going to make you a millionaire, fitness model or both, you deserve your money to be taken from you. Hee

      I know what you mean and I don't think Warriors deserve it. The point is that sort of thing is advertised on the forum. I just don't see the integrity.
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