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motifDESIGN 5 years ago

Thanks Tagiscom for your answer, I hope things change for the better! The idea of a hologaphic feed sounds very exciting, I just hope it doesn't just turn into a "Black Mirror" episode hehe

I love the connectivity of online media and information at fingertips, but do hope that a better balance can be found like you suggested!
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Daniel Evans

5 years ago

Many would argue that Facebook is already a Black Mirror episode.

The same people perhaps would hope that bots will run it into the ground.

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motifDESIGN 5 years ago

he he he
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Emmanuel Asika 5 years ago

hehe.

they need to work on new fixes and features else a new social network will take over
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Point-Blank

5 years ago

With Mark Zuckerberg forming earth's most powerful brainstorming secret forum with Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Google's Larry Page, Jeff Bezos and the machine connected still functioning brains of Stephen Hawking and Steve Jobs Facebook will transform and transcend just similar to what Google and Microsoft did so the "world's largest country" will not be facing any type of genocide any time soon.

Someone like a Mark Zuckerberg is fully aware of such risks and will simply get Facebook to evolve throughout the ages plus they have enough money to buy out any emerging competition.

When you develop a virtual product for maybe thousands of bucks and it's now valued by the market at hundreds of millions of dollars which will only be on paper and the immense riches to be derived will not be realized until you sell.

This will be the catch for any emerging technology challenging facebook - they will be bought out in the early stages putting back companies such Facebook back in control as the dominant factor in the marketplace.

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motifDESIGN 5 years ago

Man, that's dark

Do you think any emerging blockchain tech that could challenge FB would also be taken over by the Zuck? Thus also putting control of tech that was supposed to be "free" in the hands of a few Tech Bosses?

I was kinda hopeful that Social platforms as we know it today could evolve into something a little more organic, free and "human". So, less of this becoming a slave to the click habit and more of using social media as a tool to connect people.
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5 years ago

Facebook will never die in my opinion. Heck, in the future we will be able to Facebook with dead people! It may be a Facebook owned company and that means very little to users and also means Facebook not only is making money off of live users.. they will also be making money off of dead users.

Hope I live long enough to see it. Be assured I will jump at the chance to convert my existing page to a dead user page if the opportunity arises before I pass. Why? Just to piss off all of my favorite people that I like to piss off <smile>. Starting with the pizza delivery person that has an obsession to deliver warm beer with my pizza.

Then there is newspaper delivery person that always unrolls my paper and reads the comics. A hologram appears every time he opens the mailbox that depicts me hitting Bugs Bunny with a baseball bat.

Then there is my Facebook auto poster that automatically posts to this thread things like.. "Send Ice Water - It;s HOT down Here." and "I buried $1M in my favorite person's backyard."

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motifDESIGN 5 years ago

HAHAHA top!

Facebook is (for the) DEAD, long live FACEBOOK!
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Odahh

5 years ago

Right now with a large number of people staring at the screen of their smartphones.. and facebook owning the major apps on those devices .. Facebook,Instagram, Whats app .. and if snap chats founders where willing to sell zuck would have owned that to.

Zuckerberg knows the business he is ine and where the attention of users are.. so don't count on Facebook dieing any time soon ..even if it goes full social justice warrior.. and bans any user expressing any conservative or right leaning views (or shadow bans..so most people can't see what you post) .. it will still be around for a long while ..

how are the bots negativly effecting what you do..to risk killing facebook

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motifDESIGN

5 years ago

Very good point!

OK cool, so because of changes, FB might actually become more usable

haha, well you could say that the idea that "Facebook is DEAD" is a myopic view

XD hehehehe, cool, I'm actually glad to hear that this is the general consensus, it helps with future planning.

It sucks when you plan campaigns and marketing ideas and then a few months later everything changes and it sort of pulls the rug out under you.

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Originally Posted by motifDESIGN

Very good point!

OK cool, so because of changes, FB might actually become more usable

haha, well you could say that the idea that "Facebook is DEAD" is a myopic view

XD hehehehe, cool, I'm actually glad to hear that this is the general consensus, it helps with future planning.

It sucks when you plan campaigns and marketing ideas and then a few months later everything changes and it sort of pulls the rug out under you.

Business 101: Plan for change. When you make a business plan you also have to plan for business contingencies.

Facebook contingencies includes biding your time until Facebook campaigns are resolved and are back in your favor. Simple as that.

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5 years ago

Originally Posted by motifDESIGN

Very good point!

OK cool, so because of changes, FB might actually become more usable

haha, well you could say that the idea that "Facebook is DEAD" is a myopic view

XD hehehehe, cool, I'm actually glad to hear that this is the general consensus, it helps with future planning.

It sucks when you plan campaigns and marketing ideas and then a few months later everything changes and it sort of pulls the rug out under you.

The only constant is change in this industry!

Be ready for it and embrace it. A well known quote that still holds true - "Adapt or die". While you might not die, many have gone from business owner back to working for someone else as they were unable to adapt to the change.

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motifDESIGN 5 years ago

Oh man, this is why I hate marketing
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techwizard

5 years ago

What do you mean by Facebook is Dead.

Is it paid advertising? Organic reach? What?

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Originally Posted by techwizard

What do you mean by Facebook is Dead.

Is it paid advertising? Organic reach? What?

Me thinks it has something to do with the recent Facebook fiasco over FB bots. Seems to me it is just a case of the internet poking at the Gorilla.

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motifDESIGN

5 years ago

Seems to me it is just a case of the internet poking at the Gorilla.

Yes, perhaps that's one way to see it. I didn't mean for this to be a terribly serious discussion. I was just wondering, in light of the scandal rumors if FB is still popular for users and advertisers and if marketers think FB will continue being popular or stand the chance of being replaced by a different type of platform in the future.

There's been great answers so far, for example, the Zuck will find a way to remain king no matter what, that's quite insightful information for me. I wouldn't have thunk it, but I can see it as a strong possibility. Instagram (under FB) is proving very very clever at capturing market share, so that is supporting "evidence" I guess. My problem with IG is that it also uses "addictive tactics" on users, for now it's fine, but I wonder where it's going.

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Originally Posted by motifDESIGN

Yes, perhaps that's one way to see it. I didn't mean for this to be a terribly serious discussion. I was just wondering, in light of the scandal rumors if FB is still popular for users and advertisers and if marketers think FB will continue being popular or stand the chance of being replaced by a different type of platform in the future.

Personally, I doubt it.

There's been great answers so far, for example, the Zuck will find a way to remain king no matter what, that's quite insightful information for me. I wouldn't have thunk it, but I can see it as a strong possibility. Instagram (under FB) is proving very very clever at capturing market share, so that is supporting "evidence" I guess. My problem with IG is that it also uses "addictive tactics" on users, for now it's fine, but I wonder where it's going.

Personally, I am not interested or concerned.

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5 years ago

Originally Posted by motifDESIGN

Any thoughts?

No! . . . . . . . .

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stephenchong

5 years ago

Yes, definitely there is a change, but those changes are for better thing. Last month millions of users data is stolen from the facebook and there are many fake accounts in the facebook which are using it for malicious activities. so you can see a decline in impression and decrease in engagement. Because facebook is now rolling its updates.

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229tom

5 years ago

Eventually They will Join Myspace

But till that... some years left!

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Brent Stangel

5 years ago

Bots engaging with other bots. Bots liking the content another bot posted. Bots reporting other bots for spamming.

And don't forget to join groups and spam your links. It's the "secret" free traffic method being "taught" right now.

Beep, bop, borp, beep...end auto-post.

Brent or bot?

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motifDESIGN 5 years ago

One of these days the bots will start to insist on "bot rights" and want to vote as well :/
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5 years ago

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motifDESIGN

5 years ago

This is one thing I'm curious about. Are there marketers out there that are starting to use FB ads less, for example? I read on a thread that some people have dropped FB ads and upped Google Adwords.

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Originally Posted by motifDESIGN

This is one thing I'm curious about. Are there marketers out there that are starting to use FB ads less, for example? I read on a thread that some people have dropped FB ads and upped Google Adwords.

Are there marketers out there that are starting to use FB ads less, for example?

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Nice link, Thank you!
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David Curtis

5 years ago

I think that yes, Instagram has won all! ((

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5 years ago

i got some traffic from there though, what way forward?

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motifDESIGN 5 years ago

Hmmm this is a haunting pickle, it could be ghostly traffic.
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Kharma Scribbles

5 years ago

I'm not an internet marketer. Or rather I don't try to be I guess is what I mean. Social Media Marketing is more my knowledge base, but Freelancing unrelated things is my daily goal. I only ended up here from Freelancer, and didn't even know it was a forum for marketing people until after I joined - I just liked what I saw!

Anyways, what I'm trying to say is I am a horrible sales person and I don't try to market my brand in ways even a beginner should. I have all the creative ideas but lack the skills needed to apply them usually (producing digital art or coding software are the skills I'm lacking, yet get flooded with all kinds of ideas for artists or developers.. I'm great at telling you how to improve your project on github but please don't ask me to make it a PR because I'll just blush and laugh at you coyly while slowly running away..)

I also love writing so much that I never shut up..

What I'm trying to say is.. even as an 'outsider' I had the same feelings about FB.. whereas it wasn't that long ago that FB was sort of the 'place to be seen' at, but now it feels like Twitter or Tumbler might be making a comeback.. G+ is closing shop next year so maybe we are just waiting on a new innovative social site to bloom... This is just the calm before the storm.

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Jennifer Isola

5 years ago

FB isn't dead some people may have lie low but they are still active

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5 years ago

Facebook is dead for some people but it is still alive for the marketer who wants to have paid promotions on Facebook.

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5 years ago

No way. Facebook would never be a Black Mirror episode. Not for me

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5 years ago

Bots now almost all social networks, with the help of other evil people to make money

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5 years ago

I think the death of Facebook is still long coming.

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ryanbiddulph

5 years ago

Facebook works awesome for me. Of course, I put in the time to build genuine bonds, human to human. Not sexy but works incredibly well for my blogging business.

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sendizo

5 years ago

Hate those posts that says dead or dying stuff. too much negative.
Nothing is dead you just gotta keep up with the changes.

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5 years ago

Originally Posted by sendizo

Hate those posts that says dead or dying stuff. too much negative.
Nothing is dead you just gotta keep up with the changes.

Agreed they are only down 75%+, far worse than Amazon, and never mind.

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whateverpedia

5 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Agreed they are only down 75%+, far worse than Amazon, and never mind.

Facebook hit a record high on July 20 2018 ($209.94). On the 24th of December it closed at $124.06, a fall of 41%. Nowhere near the 75%+ you claim.

The derivative crap you trade bear no relationship to actually investing in Facebook, or any other stocks.

Hopefully you'll learn that lesson in 2019, otherwise facts are always going to go against you.

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Originally Posted by whateverpedia

Facebook hit a record high on July 20 2018 ($209.94). On the 24th of December it closed at $124.06, a fall of 41%. Nowhere near the 75%+ you claim.

The derivative crap you trade bear no relationship to actually investing in Facebook, or any other stocks.

Hopefully you'll learn that lesson in 2019, otherwise facts are always going to go against you.

Going by the lowest lows, (currently) and highs it dropped over 75+!

And where it presently stands it is just over the 60% loss mark.

As for derivitive crap, if you mean something like CRON, then l agree. I did make something with that, then it recently went sour on me, so l am looking into other options.

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5 years ago

Facebook is really dying. I boost many of my posts to sponsor them but I do not have such a big audience back and I'm not the only one complaining about that.

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donsteve

5 years ago

Facebook will still likely to be KING of online paid ads but keep i mind that the cost of ads will continue to increase in the future as more marketers use it for ads.

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Emmanuel Asika

5 years ago

Facebook is a scam.

they are intentionally reducing reach and engagement of Page and Group posts so Business can fully depend on their Shitty Ads.

Prove: I have a 29k followers Page and get roughly 500 Reach per post, the irony.

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Originally Posted by Emmanuel Asika

Facebook is a scam.

they are intentionally reducing reach and engagement of Page and Group posts so Business can fully depend on their Shitty Ads.

Prove: I have a 29k followers Page and get roughly 500 Reach per post, the irony.

Proof is not spelt "prove" just so you know and if Facebook is a scam then why are you participating in a scam?

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hehe.

they need to work on new fixes and features else a new social network will take over

Well, since Facebook is in the business of making money and it appears that they make money ( a lot of money) it stands to reason that they will continue to to make money regardless of your expert opinion to put it politely

When you have walked in the shoes of Facebook then I think your opinion has metal. Until then just keep on participating in the so called scam (your own words) that you say they are all the way to poorhouse.

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Amila Supun

5 years ago

Facebook should have early security and privacy measures. Because its no point in closing the stable after the hourses are left. Facebook will be a disaster to the community if they dont act fast or else it'll be forced to close.

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Originally Posted by Amila Supun

Facebook should have early security and privacy measures. Because its no point in closing the stable after the hourses are left. Facebook will be a disaster to the community if they dont act fast or else it'll be forced to close.

Facebook will be a disaster, lol, what,... idiots won't be walking around shopping centres staring and texting into the so-called smart phones anymore.

It will be more like a breath of fresh air, that we don't have to think and dodge these demented FB zombies anymore, that don't watch where they are going.

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Originally Posted by tagiscom

Facebook will be a disaster, lol, what,... idiots won't be walking around shopping centres staring and texting into the so-called smart phones anymore.

It will be more like a breath of fresh air, that we don't have to think and dodge these demented FB zombies anymore, that don't watch where they are going.

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You obviously do not know how to pick up girls and save a few bucks when walking around shopping centers, lol. No worries, I'll teach you Tag.

First, select a cutie in a min-skirt with an expensive apple.

Second, trip her. While shes thrashing around on the ground in her min-thingy take a video and pics and upload to your Facebook page. We call it a bonus.

Be a gentleman and help her to her feet and offer to buy her lunch. You are already armed with the right stuff, she can afford an apple, so she doesn't need your money and can afford her own lunch. She might turn you down. So offer her mouth-to mouth and make her smile. Then ask her if she'll buy you lunch and maybe a new car. Make her smile.

At this point she'll probably tell you she has a boyfriend. Simply say something like if he was real boyfriend.. you would not have the pleasure to meet her. Make her smile.

If she still turns you down. Jump back a step and shout "$50.00 are you for real?" Make her turn red or smack the hell out of you.

At this time a crowd of people will be uploading your antics to Facebook. Shoot the crowd the video and pics on your Facebook page. The trend starts. Your mug will be all over Facebook.

Give it an hour. Repeat the same process with a different cutie except this time show the cutie the Facebook page.

That is how you pick up cuties at shopping centers

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You obviously do not know how to pick up girls and save a few bucks when walking around shopping centers, lol. No worries, I'll teach you Tag.

First, select a cutie in a min-skirt with an expensive apple.

Second, trip her. While shes thrashing around on the ground in her min-thingy take a video and pics and upload to your Facebook page. We call it a bonus.

Be a gentleman and help her to her feet and offer to buy her lunch. You are already armed with the right stuff, she can afford an apple, so she doesn't need your money and can afford her own lunch. She might turn you down. So offer her mouth-to mouth and make her smile. Then ask her if she'll buy you lunch and maybe a new car. Make her smile.

At this point she'll probably tell you she has a boyfriend. Simply say something like if he was real boyfriend.. you would not have the pleasure to meet her. Make her smile.

If she still turns you down. Jump back a step and shout "$50.00 are you for real?" Make her turn red or smack the hell out of you.

At this time a crowd of people will be uploading your antics to Facebook. Shoot the crowd the video and pics on your Facebook page. The trend starts. Your mug will be all over Facebook.

Give it an hour. Repeat the same process with a different cutie except this time show the cutie the Facebook page.

That is how you pick up cuties at shopping centers

Nonsense, l know Claude keeps telling us that it'll work but still.

Last thing l need is some bimbo in 20 years time, telling the media that l grabbed a females hand without written permission, 2 testimonials and a bill passed through the lower house.

Already had an attractive woman at the bank, ask me how has your day been, while making sure the rock on her finger was visible.

Basically said, getting over a flu, and we both agreed it sucked.

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Originally Posted by tagiscom

Nonsense, l know Claude keeps telling us that it'll work but still.

Last thing l need is some bimbo in 20 years time, telling the media that l grabbed a females hand without written permission, 2 testimonials and a bill passed through the lower house.

Already had an attractive woman at the bank, ask me how has your day been, while making sure the rock on her finger was visible.

Basically said, getting over a flu, and we both agreed it sucked.

I can see why it sucked for her.. customer at her work station with the flu. Your lucky she didn't flash a weapon.

Okay, at banks..

When an attractive woman at the bank makes nice with you..

Jump back a step and shout "$50.00! Good deal. So that is how you can afford the ring. I'll meet you out back in 5 minutes."

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I can see why it sucked for her.. customer at her work station with the flu. Your lucky she didn't flash a weapon.

Okay, at banks..

When an attractive woman at the bank makes nice with you..

Jump back a step and shout "$50.00! Good deal. So that is how you can afford the ring. I'll meet you out back in 5 minutes."

No, banks can't brandish weapons, but some have been known to have some dropbears on standby.

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