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Hi guys!

I'm new here but have been a lurker for a while - I must say that the world of marketing has always seemed to me to be like swimming in a pool with sharks. Har Har, OK I'm not funny, jokes aside.

So, my impression is that Facebook is either dead or dying and one of the main reasons is bots running rampant. I don't know if my impression is right, so what do you think?

Also, what do you think will be the future of social media?

I think as long as there is something like an internet, there will be social-media-type platforms, but how do you think it will be different from today?

Personally, I think there is promise in things like the Steemit model etc.

Any thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by motifDESIGN View Post

    Hi guys!

    I'm new here but have been a lurker for a while - I must say that the world of marketing has always seemed to me to be like swimming in a pool with sharks. Har Har, OK I'm not funny, jokes aside.

    So, my impression is that Facebook is either dead or dying and one of the main reasons is bots running rampant. I don't know if my impression is right, so what do you think?

    Also, what do you think will be the future of social media?

    I think as long as there is something like an internet, there will be social-media-type platforms, but how do you think it will be different from today?

    Personally, I think there is promise in things like the Steemit model etc.

    Any thoughts?
    Hi, and welcome arrm, Motif, the end of Facebook, Twitter and all annoying feed type platforms will be slow and gradual, (well, with any luck) since it is leading to a higher incidence of a sure neck, and finger pressing a glass screen all day.

    From what l have read a restaurant is already offering free meals to children who put these things into a bucket, and actually have a civilized meal together.

    And schools are considering banning them during class also.

    With any luck shopping centres will be next, (lost count of how many idiots staring into their phones and typing while walking have almost run into me).

    As for the future, unfortunately when holographic smart phones become commonplace, then new platforms utalizing this 3D component will exceed FB and such, and instead of sifting through a feed, it will be a 3D version.

    Which will hopefully make them safer for all.

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    • Profile picture of the author motifDESIGN
      Thanks Tagiscom for your answer, I hope things change for the better! The idea of a hologaphic feed sounds very exciting, I just hope it doesn't just turn into a "Black Mirror" episode hehe

      I love the connectivity of online media and information at fingertips, but do hope that a better balance can be found like you suggested!
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
    Many would argue that Facebook is already a Black Mirror episode.

    The same people perhaps would hope that bots will run it into the ground.
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  • Profile picture of the author Point-Blank
    With Mark Zuckerberg forming earth's most powerful brainstorming secret forum with Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Google's Larry Page, Jeff Bezos and the machine connected still functioning brains of Stephen Hawking and Steve Jobs Facebook will transform and transcend just similar to what Google and Microsoft did so the "world's largest country" will not be facing any type of genocide any time soon.

    Someone like a Mark Zuckerberg is fully aware of such risks and will simply get Facebook to evolve throughout the ages plus they have enough money to buy out any emerging competition.

    When you develop a virtual product for maybe thousands of bucks and it's now valued by the market at hundreds of millions of dollars which will only be on paper and the immense riches to be derived will not be realized until you sell.

    This will be the catch for any emerging technology challenging facebook - they will be bought out in the early stages putting back companies such Facebook back in control as the dominant factor in the marketplace.
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    • Profile picture of the author motifDESIGN
      Man, that's dark

      Do you think any emerging blockchain tech that could challenge FB would also be taken over by the Zuck? Thus also putting control of tech that was supposed to be "free" in the hands of a few Tech Bosses?

      I was kinda hopeful that Social platforms as we know it today could evolve into something a little more organic, free and "human". So, less of this becoming a slave to the click habit and more of using social media as a tool to connect people.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    Facebook will never die in my opinion. Heck, in the future we will be able to Facebook with dead people! It may be a Facebook owned company and that means very little to users and also means Facebook not only is making money off of live users.. they will also be making money off of dead users.


    Hope I live long enough to see it. Be assured I will jump at the chance to convert my existing page to a dead user page if the opportunity arises before I pass. Why? Just to piss off all of my favorite people that I like to piss off <smile>. Starting with the pizza delivery person that has an obsession to deliver warm beer with my pizza.


    Then there is newspaper delivery person that always unrolls my paper and reads the comics. A hologram appears every time he opens the mailbox that depicts me hitting Bugs Bunny with a baseball bat.


    Then there is my Facebook auto poster that automatically posts to this thread things like.. "Send Ice Water - It;s HOT down Here." and "I buried $1M in my favorite person's backyard."
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    • Profile picture of the author motifDESIGN
      HAHAHA top!

      Facebook is (for the) DEAD, long live FACEBOOK!
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Right now with a large number of people staring at the screen of their smartphones.. and facebook owning the major apps on those devices .. Facebook,Instagram, Whats app .. and if snap chats founders where willing to sell zuck would have owned that to.


    Zuckerberg knows the business he is ine and where the attention of users are.. so don't count on Facebook dieing any time soon ..even if it goes full social justice warrior.. and bans any user expressing any conservative or right leaning views (or shadow bans..so most people can't see what you post) .. it will still be around for a long while ..

    how are the bots negativly effecting what you do..to risk killing facebook
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    • Profile picture of the author motifDESIGN
      Very good point!


      OK cool, so because of changes, FB might actually become more usable


      haha, well you could say that the idea that "Facebook is DEAD" is a myopic view



      XD hehehehe, cool, I'm actually glad to hear that this is the general consensus, it helps with future planning.



      It sucks when you plan campaigns and marketing ideas and then a few months later everything changes and it sort of pulls the rug out under you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Originally Posted by motifDESIGN View Post

        Very good point!

        OK cool, so because of changes, FB might actually become more usable

        haha, well you could say that the idea that "Facebook is DEAD" is a myopic view

        XD hehehehe, cool, I'm actually glad to hear that this is the general consensus, it helps with future planning.

        It sucks when you plan campaigns and marketing ideas and then a few months later everything changes and it sort of pulls the rug out under you.
        Business 101: Plan for change. When you make a business plan you also have to plan for business contingencies.

        Facebook contingencies includes biding your time until Facebook campaigns are resolved and are back in your favor. Simple as that.
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      • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
        Originally Posted by motifDESIGN View Post

        Very good point!


        OK cool, so because of changes, FB might actually become more usable


        haha, well you could say that the idea that "Facebook is DEAD" is a myopic view



        XD hehehehe, cool, I'm actually glad to hear that this is the general consensus, it helps with future planning.



        It sucks when you plan campaigns and marketing ideas and then a few months later everything changes and it sort of pulls the rug out under you.
        The only constant is change in this industry!

        Be ready for it and embrace it. A well known quote that still holds true - "Adapt or die". While you might not die, many have gone from business owner back to working for someone else as they were unable to adapt to the change.
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  • Profile picture of the author techwizard
    What do you mean by Facebook is Dead.


    Is it paid advertising? Organic reach? What?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
      Originally Posted by techwizard View Post

      What do you mean by Facebook is Dead.

      Is it paid advertising? Organic reach? What?

      Me thinks it has something to do with the recent Facebook fiasco over FB bots. Seems to me it is just a case of the internet poking at the Gorilla.
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      • Profile picture of the author motifDESIGN
        Seems to me it is just a case of the internet poking at the Gorilla.
        Yes, perhaps that's one way to see it. I didn't mean for this to be a terribly serious discussion. I was just wondering, in light of the scandal rumors if FB is still popular for users and advertisers and if marketers think FB will continue being popular or stand the chance of being replaced by a different type of platform in the future.

        There's been great answers so far, for example, the Zuck will find a way to remain king no matter what, that's quite insightful information for me. I wouldn't have thunk it, but I can see it as a strong possibility. Instagram (under FB) is proving very very clever at capturing market share, so that is supporting "evidence" I guess. My problem with IG is that it also uses "addictive tactics" on users, for now it's fine, but I wonder where it's going.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
          Originally Posted by motifDESIGN View Post

          Yes, perhaps that's one way to see it. I didn't mean for this to be a terribly serious discussion. I was just wondering, in light of the scandal rumors if FB is still popular for users and advertisers and if marketers think FB will continue being popular or stand the chance of being replaced by a different type of platform in the future.


          Personally, I doubt it.


          There's been great answers so far, for example, the Zuck will find a way to remain king no matter what, that's quite insightful information for me. I wouldn't have thunk it, but I can see it as a strong possibility. Instagram (under FB) is proving very very clever at capturing market share, so that is supporting "evidence" I guess. My problem with IG is that it also uses "addictive tactics" on users, for now it's fine, but I wonder where it's going.


          Personally, I am not interested or concerned.
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  • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
    Originally Posted by motifDESIGN View Post

    Any thoughts?
    No! . . . . . . . .
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  • Profile picture of the author stephenchong
    Yes, definitely there is a change, but those changes are for better thing. Last month millions of users data is stolen from the facebook and there are many fake accounts in the facebook which are using it for malicious activities. so you can see a decline in impression and decrease in engagement. Because facebook is now rolling its updates.
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    Eventually They will Join Myspace
    But till that... some years left!
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  • Profile picture of the author KIORTY
    Simply Facebook changes and tries to follow today`s trends and people`s needs, we`ll have to get accustomed to that, that`s all
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    • Profile picture of the author motifDESIGN
      One of these days the bots will start to insist on "bot rights" and want to vote as well :/
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    • Profile picture of the author motifDESIGN
      This is one thing I'm curious about. Are there marketers out there that are starting to use FB ads less, for example? I read on a thread that some people have dropped FB ads and upped Google Adwords.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Originally Posted by motifDESIGN View Post

        This is one thing I'm curious about. Are there marketers out there that are starting to use FB ads less, for example? I read on a thread that some people have dropped FB ads and upped Google Adwords.

        Are there marketers out there that are starting to use FB ads less, for example?

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        This study surveyed more than 5,700 marketers with the goal of understanding how they're using social media to grow and promote their businesses.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Curtis
    I think that yes, Instagram has won all! ((
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    i got some traffic from there though, what way forward?
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    • Profile picture of the author motifDESIGN
      Hmmm this is a haunting pickle, it could be ghostly traffic.
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  • I'm not an internet marketer. Or rather I don't try to be I guess is what I mean. Social Media Marketing is more my knowledge base, but Freelancing unrelated things is my daily goal. I only ended up here from Freelancer, and didn't even know it was a forum for marketing people until after I joined - I just liked what I saw!

    Anyways, what I'm trying to say is I am a horrible sales person and I don't try to market my brand in ways even a beginner should. I have all the creative ideas but lack the skills needed to apply them usually (producing digital art or coding software are the skills I'm lacking, yet get flooded with all kinds of ideas for artists or developers.. I'm great at telling you how to improve your project on github but please don't ask me to make it a PR because I'll just blush and laugh at you coyly while slowly running away..)

    I also love writing so much that I never shut up..

    What I'm trying to say is.. even as an 'outsider' I had the same feelings about FB.. whereas it wasn't that long ago that FB was sort of the 'place to be seen' at, but now it feels like Twitter or Tumbler might be making a comeback.. G+ is closing shop next year so maybe we are just waiting on a new innovative social site to bloom... This is just the calm before the storm.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jennifer Isola
    FB isn't dead some people may have lie low but they are still active
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