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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    There are a LOT of them working behind the scenes doing very well. Many that I know are just not interested in branding/promoting themselves so they are simply not in the limelight.

    I don't know any but I have also heard of some using male pen names.

    From my very limited point of view I would agree that there are proportionately more men but probably more women than you think.
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    Just curious.
    : )
    Here is something that nobody wants to hear.

    Your gender has something to do with what interests you.

    Fewer women are interested in internet marketing than men.

    That doesn't mean they can't do it. It means they tend to be less interested.

    But if you take a random sampling of a thousand 35 year old men and women. More men will be interested in online marketing. Just like more men are interested in football than women. More women will be interested in art.

    Our brains are simply different. Men tend to be better at a single task, because their brain is more compartmentalized. It's why more men are great at math. Women have better connections to the various sections of the brain. Far more than men. It's why women are generally better at communication, writing, multi-tasking, and have better social skills than most men..

    A woman's hippocampus is far larger than a man's. (The section that joins the hemispheres of the brain.)


    I hope I'm not starting a major controversy here. We are not all the same.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by Janice Sperry View Post

      There are a LOT of them working behind the scenes doing very well. Many that I know are just not interested in branding/promoting themselves so they are simply not in the limelight.
      Cool. : ) Thanks Janice ― I didn't think about that. Personally I don't agree with them using male pen names. In fact in many Markets being a Woman would be an advantage.

      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      Our brains are simply different. Men tend to be better at a single task, because their brain is more compartmentalized. It's why more men are great at math. Women have better connections to the various sections of the brain. Far more than men. It's why women are generally better at communication, writing, multi-tasking, and have better social skills than most men.
      Another interesting post : ) Thanks Claude ― you have a lot of knowledge. Yeah I think Men and Women are slightly different. Women have many great qualities and are gifted at doing many different things better than Men.
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      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      Here is something that nobody wants to hear.

      Your gender has something to do with what interests you.

      Fewer women are interested in internet marketing than men.

      That doesn't mean they can't do it. It means they tend to be less interested.

      But if you take a random sampling of a thousand 35 year old men and women. More men will be interested in online marketing. Just like more men are interested in football than women. More women will be interested in art.

      Our brains are simply different. Men tend to be better at a single task, because their brain is more compartmentalized. It's why more men are great at math. Women have better connections to the various sections of the brain. Far more than men. It's why women are generally better at communication, writing, multi-tasking, and have better social skills than most men..

      A woman's hippocampus is far larger than a man's. (The section that joins the hemispheres of the brain.)


      I hope I'm not starting a major controversy here. We are not all the same.
      What if there are as many or more woman earning incomes online in I'm or other online businesses .

      But woman tend to have different motives or success peramators then men.

      Or they are running the business while taking care of their kids .

      What makes me sad is that you have to worry about offending people when talking about well researched topics that are biologically truths.
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    • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      But if you take a random sampling of a thousand 35 year old men and women ...

      May I narrow this down a little, plz?


      I ain't been out on a date in a while an' my hippocampus done forgot 'bout all the interhemispherical campin' stuff.


      Plus, can we mebbe say the guys gotta be 27?


      Aside from bein' a magical numbah, it is when most guys grow outta the Experimental Beard phase till they got a flabby neck.


      tbh prolly I should be sellin' spray on beards an' marketin' 'em like temporary tattoos.


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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
        Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

        Aside from bein' a magical numbah, it is when most guys grow outta the Experimental Beard phase till they got a flabby neck.
        Are you spying on me....again?
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  • Profile picture of the author JackSparrowIRL
    There are a lot of women in Influencer Marketing, they are so many I'm kinda surprised you asked : D
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by JackSparrowIRL View Post

      There are a lot of women in Influencer Marketing, they are so many I'm kinda surprised you asked : D
      No sure ― you're right. : ) I was just wondering why there isn't as many as Men.
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  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    Well if you see in youtube you have many popular channels made by womans
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    I should clarify what I said earlier.

    The internet is simply a means to market to customers....an advertising and communication platform. There isn't really an "internet" business.

    I suspect that, depending on what's being sold....the core industry...you'll find either more men or more women.

    But every industry tends to attract one gender over the other.

    In my industry, nearly everyone that owns the business in the US is a white middle aged (or elderly) man. In fact, I may be the only person in the industry that isn't a staunch Republican. It's just the kind of person attracted to this industry.

    Child care centers? I suspect are mostly owned by women....because that's who is more attracted to that industry.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      The internet is simply a means to market to customers....an advertising and communication platform. There isn't really an "internet" business.
      Not 100% sure what you mean by that ... However I would tend to disagree: Many websites/online businesses/etc. would only work online.

      That said, I agree with what you said about certain Industries attracting either more Men or more Women. Really great point. : )

      Although there's a lot of Men in the Niche I personally think Women give better dating advice. (Well the ones that know what they're talking about ...)

      As a guess I would say the ratio is almost even.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        Not 100% sure what you mean by that ... However I would tend to disagree: Many websites/online businesses/etc. would only work online.

        You are in the business of what you sell. For example, I'm in the vacuum cleaner marketing business. I sell at retail, and I used to sell online. Although I sold online, I was in the vacuum cleaner business. I wasn't in the internet business.

        People who sell courses online are in the information or education business. The internet is simply where they promote their business.

        If you are in the internet marketing business...what are you selling? The answer to that question, tells you the business you are in.

        If I advertise on billboards, I'm not in the billboard business. If I sell shoes online, I'm in the shoe business.

        I suppose if you are just posting unassociated affiliate offers, you are technically in a business. But I wouldn't know what to call it.

        All my books are sold online. But I'm in the book writing business, not the internet business. The internet is just where you find what I sell.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
          Interesting premise. What about Websites like Google, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc.?
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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

            Interesting premise. What about Websites like Google, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc.?
            Out of my area of expertise. These are platforms, My guess is that they are in the advertising sales business.

            The same as cable TV stations, radio stations. They are in the advertising sales business. The programming is just a place to attract viewers to see the ads. If they sell advertising, that's the business they are in.
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            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              Out of my area of expertise. These are platforms, My guess is that they are in the advertising sales business.
              Sure. Good point. : ) However I would argue that the reasons for these Websites is also to provide an important "service" ... "Organizing The Word's Information" for example. Personally I don't think it's just about making money. For me it's about having the vision (etc.) to create something fantastic. (And then monetizing it.)
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              • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                Sure. Good point. : ) However I would argue that the reasons for these Websites is also to provide an important "service" ... "Organizing The Word's Information" for example. Personally I don't think it's just about making money. For me it's about having the vision (etc.) to create something fantastic. (And then monetizing it.)
                Or now that the do have the information organized . And monpopolies in place . Start to control acess to information and silence those with opposing views
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                • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                  Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                  Or now that the do have the information organized . And monpopolies in place . Start to control acess to information and silence those with opposing views
                  Lol. Just out of curiosity ... Do you use Google? (Or another Search Engine?)
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                  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                    Lol. Just out of curiosity ... Do you use Google? (Or another Search Engine?)
                    I use Google and you tube
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                    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                      I use Google and you tube
                      Cool. : ) Same ... (Mostly listen to music on YouTube.)
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                      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                        Cool. : ) Same ... (Mostly listen to music on YouTube.)
                        YouTube is starting to piss me off with the way it drops adds into videos . I like to put my attention elsewhere but the the is a 15 minute add in front of a 4 minute video .

                        And it has followed the TV ad practice of being 2-3 tomes as loud as what you where watching .
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                        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                          YouTube is starting to piss me off with the way it drops adds into videos . I like to put my attention elsewhere but the the is a 15 minute add in front of a 4 minute video.
                          Personally I don't mind the Ads. (I mean you get to "skip" them so ...) I think that if I have (almost) all of the World's music at my fingertips -- completely free -- then a couple of Ads isn't all that bad.
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              • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                Sure. Good point. : ) However I would argue that the reasons for these Websites is also to provide an important "service" ... "Organizing The Word's Information" for example. Personally I don't think it's just about making money. For me it's about having the vision (etc.) to create something fantastic. (And then monetizing it.)
                The service is offered as a conduit to sell advertising.

                You probably get a coupon magazine in the mail. Is that company in the coupon business or advertising business? I guaranty you their sales reps aren't calling homeowners and selling them coupons. They're calling businesses and selling them advertising space.
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                • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                  Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                  The service is offered as a conduit to sell advertising.
                  I disagree: The service is offered because it's something great/amazing... And the advertising is just how the Creators' monetize their Website. (That's the way I think, anyway.)

                  Maybe I'm wrong however that's the mindset that I have and it keeps me inspired with my Projects. I focus on value and service before money/profit.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                    Maybe I'm wrong however that's the mindset that I have and it keeps me inspired with my Projects. I focus on value and service before money/profit.
                    That's how people starve.

                    It's fine to focus on value and service, but at the end of the day, you're in business to make a profit. If you're not, you aren't in business. You have a hobby. And there's nothing wrong, inherently, with hobbies. Just know they're hobbies.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                      It's fine to focus on value and service, but at the end of the day, you're in business to make a profit. If you're not, you aren't in business.
                      There is absolutely nothing wrong with being in Business to both make a profit ... And provide tremendous value to People ... In fact they both go hand-in-hand.

                      2C
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                      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                        There is absolutely nothing wrong with being in Business to both make a profit ... And provide tremendous value to People ... In fact they both go hand-in-hand.

                        2C
                        Your a nice enough person . You.might be a bit to idealistic to grasp the thing people value enough to fork over a big chunk of cash . May look like a total waste of money . To most everyone else.

                        I don't remember much I learned in school.i do remember a few of the teacher chatting amongst each other and whineing about how.unfair.it was guys got.paid.millions to hit a baseball .when what they did was so much more valuable .

                        People who believe they are providing tremendous value . Tend to get bent out of shape when others they deem providing less value make far more money .
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                        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                          People who believe they are providing tremendous value . Tend to get bent out of shape when others they deem providing less value make far more money .
                          I'd settle for less money if it means helping more People. I'm in the game to make Millions. And am not the least bit concerned what other People are doing.

                          Part of my Mission Statement for my primary Website is: "To empower and inspire as many People as humanly possible."
                          That's partly what keeps me enthused.
                          : )

                          I want to make a lot of money -- because I can do a lot of good with it.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                            Men should ensure that they can spend as many hours as they like pursuing pipe dreams and the way they do this is to marry a woman who has a rich father who provides for them both.

                            There, I said it.
                            I may be going out on a limb here....but aren't you - and jonathan 2.0 and odahh and tagiscom....all SINGLE men? That particular species seems most prone to conjecturing about 'what women do'.

                            A friend who is a mortgage broker told me the terms 'entrepreneur' and 'internet marketer' listed as 'occupation' on a loan app mean the same thing;


                            "no job and live at home with mom"
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                            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                              That particular species seems most prone to conjecturing about 'what women do'.
                              I already know what Women do: They're great at cooking, cleaning, shopping, gossiping, and more. (Lol.) *Jonathan Runs Away*

                              P.S.
                              Yes: I'm Single.
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                            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                            I may be going out on a limb here....but aren't you - and jonathan 2.0 and odahh and tagiscom....all SINGLE men? That particular species seems most prone to conjecturing about 'what women do'.
                            No Kay l am also single and don't speculate.

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                            But their intent was to make money, not provide great service. You're trying to split hairs when the subject is bald.
                            Geesh not Claude again!

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                              Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                              No Kay l am also single and don't speculate
                              No you just find socks a source of great amusement.

                              Be assured everyone of interest to you has already been told about why you find socks so funny all of a sudden. They already know. Think about that.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                            I think admitting to working on a hobby is better than labeling efforts as a failure or 'incomplete'.


                            There is nothing wrong with a hobby - it's pursuing an interest and has no requirement for recognition from others or income. The beauty of having a hobby is lack of expectations of 'results' - no pressure.




                            l am also single and don't speculate.

                            ....nailed it!....
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                            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                              I think admitting to working on a hobby is better than labeling efforts as a failure or 'incomplete'.


                              There is nothing wrong with a hobby - it's pursuing an interest and has no requirement for recognition from others or income. The beauty of having a hobby is lack of expectations of 'results' - no pressure.
                              Interesting. Something I'd add is that if People can (eventually) make money with a "Hobby Website" ... Then that's a great thing. Similar to what you said Kay, it's doing something that People enjoy (etc.)
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                                Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                                True. I agree. However I still wouldn't call it a "hobby." I would call it an incomplete venture or -- like you said -- a "failure." (Or course, People can learn something from that if they're determined to succeed.)

                                Dilbert is that you.
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                      • Profile picture of the author socialentry
                        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                        There is absolutely nothing wrong with being in Business to both make a profit ... And provide tremendous value to People ... In fact they both go hand-in-hand.

                        2C

                        But what if you're the head of IG Farben during World war II.
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                      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                      That's how people starve.

                      It's fine to focus on value and service, but at the end of the day, you're in business to make a profit. If you're not, you aren't in business. You have a hobby. And there's nothing wrong, inherently, with hobbies. Just know they're hobbies.
                      Women should know their place. Jonathan should know better than posting threads like this because one of them might read it and get ideas. Now we wouldn't want that now would we. When Jonathan emerges from his home office having spent endless hours perfecting his websites he expects the house to be spick and span, his dinner on the table and his wife looking attractive. Not sitting on her laptop making money.

                      Men should ensure that they can spend as many hours as they like pursuing pipe dreams and the way they do this is to marry a woman who has a rich father who provides for them both.

                      There, I said it.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                        When Jonathan emerges from his home office having spent endless hours perfecting his websites he expects the house to be spick and span, his dinner on the table and his wife looking attractive. Not sitting on her laptop making money.
                        Lol. Well OK: Thanks. (I think.)
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              • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                Sure. Good point. : ) However I would argue that the reasons for these Websites is also to provide an important "service" ... "Organizing The Word's Information" for example. Personally I don't think it's just about making money. For me it's about having the vision (etc.) to create something fantastic. (And then monetizing it.)

                Jonathan.

                Some of these websites (Facebook, for example) may have started in one guy's bedroom as a hobby.

                If they are a business, they are selling something. What they sell is the business they are in.

                Some people think they have a business, when they really just have a website...a hobby.

                Once the website (or platform) starts selling something, it's now a business.

                And the words "Internet business" means you sell something. Whether it is ads, software, information , or booties. And whatever it is that you are selling, means you are in that business.

                For example, NBC is in the Broadcast advertising business.

                The only way they could be in the business without selling advertising, is if they were PBS, and depended on charity.
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                • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                  Some people think they have a business, when they really just have a website...a hobby.

                  Once the website (or platform) starts selling something, it's now a business.
                  I would call it: "A business in the making."

                  Personally I don't think it's a "hobby" when People are putting in a lot of time, effort, and energy creating their Website/Business. Before it went live, YouTube.com wasn't a hobby ... They were serious about building it.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                    I would call it: "A business in the making." Personally I don't think it's a "hobby" when People are putting in a lot of time, effort, and energy creating their Website/Business. Before it went live, YouTube.com wasn't a hobby ... They were serious about building it.
                    But their intent was to make money, not provide great service. You're trying to split hairs when the subject is bald.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                      But their intent was to make money, not provide great service. You're trying to split hairs when the subject is bald.
                      Again: I'm working on doing both.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                    I would call it: "A business in the making."

                    Personally I don't think it's a "hobby" when People are putting in a lot of time, effort, and energy creating their Website/Business. Before it went live, YouTube.com wasn't a hobby ... They were serious about building it.
                    The difference between a business and a hobby is...Are people currently giving you money in exchange for something?

                    If the answer is Yes, then you have a business.

                    If the answer is No, then you have a hobby.

                    If someone is putting together the parts of a business...but never gets to the point of someone giving them money, they didn't have a business.

                    In fact, they didn't even have a business failure. They had a dream of having a business.

                    They imagined that they were building a business. But until money exchanges hands, it isn't a business.

                    For example, all the hours I've been here giving business advice....is a hobby. It's a way to pass the time. I feel that I'm giving value. But it isn't a business until I get a credit card number from someone.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                      If someone is putting together the parts of a business...but never gets to the point of someone giving them money, they didn't have a business.
                      True. I agree. However I still wouldn't call it a "hobby." I would call it an incomplete venture or -- like you said -- a "failure." (Or course, People can learn something from that if they're determined to succeed.)
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                      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                        True. I agree. However I still wouldn't call it a "hobby." I would call it an incomplete venture or -- like you said -- a "failure." (Or course, People can learn something from that if they're determined to succeed.)
                        A business cannot be a failure until you stop trying.

                        Here.

                        Has anyone ever sent you money because of something you sold online? Ever? Even once? If they did, you have a business, although a small one.

                        If they nobody has ever bought something, or sent you money, from your website...then you are not as yet in a business.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                          No I understand Claude: Essentially that's the definition of a "Business." Thanks.
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                        • Profile picture of the author socialentry
                          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                          A business cannot be a failure until you stop trying.

                          But what if the business is hemorrhaging money and you die from a heart attack due to overwork.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                            Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

                            But what if the business is hemorrhaging money and you die from a heart attack due to overwork.
                            Like many things, it was an expression. But you did your job well Mr. Literal. : )
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                            Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

                            But what if the business is hemorrhaging money and you die from a heart attack due to overwork.
                            I'm catching on I don't know if it by intent but the common answer to most of you examples is .

                            You are probably dead

                            Step off a ledge of a 60 story builing . Probably dead .
                            Head of ig farbed during ww2 . You probably now a dead Nazi .
                            Die of a heart attack .. your dead

                            Joined Taliban might not be dead yet ..joined is is probably dead
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                          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                            Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

                            But what if the business is hemorrhaging money and you die from a heart attack due to overwork.
                            Then you didn't fail, because you cannot experience failure. And if you die from overwork, you were in the game. You were fighting the fight.

                            Also, no business always makes a profit. All businesses contract and expand. Sometimes growing too fast, and the economy shifts, makes you hemorrhage money. And you can hemorrhage money...and still have some.

                            If you survived, and the business rebounds, you haven't failed.

                            But you cannot be a failure until you put real effort into a goal, and then eventually gave up.

                            Dying isn't a failure. Everyone dies.And everyone dies of something.

                            What's interesting to me is that, if you never do anything, you aren't a failure. If you never make an attempt at business, or sports, or being a parent, or helping someone....you can't fail at it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Agreed Claude. I think of my wife. She has experienced blogging success but feels allergic to IM. Ditto for most female bloggers I know. Certainly, successful IM women are out there but I agree with different wiring.

    We tend to gravitate toward role models or examples of success who look like us. If 10 years ago, I saw mostly women blogging, I likely would have made a different choice. I'd have thought blogging is mainly mommy bloggers, and I am a single guy, so I'll pass. I happened to see a lot of guys on page 1 of Google and thru research, and resonated.

    Always way cool to see women rocking out IM.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

      Always way cool to see women rocking out IM.
      Definitely: Many of them do an amazing job. : ) And like I mentioned, in certain Markets being a Woman would be beneficial.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    I get marketing emails from a couple of women who put out killer stuff but their target audience is females. So, I get the emails but don't join the FB groups because then it would be obvious I wasn't their market due to my FB profile picture.

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  • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    Just curious.
    : )
    We don't know what you mean by IM. What is IM?

    I agree with Claude, the Internet it is a marketplace, when it needs to be one.

    Blogs. IM? Some of the most PROFITABLE blogs are about Quilts, Patterns, Sewing, found via etsy, and other such sites.

    Jinny Beyer has a vertical operation dating back over 20 years, long before many men entered IM, whatever that is. I could name literally HUNDREDS of women who are marketing successfully online.

    I would be willing to wager that the % of success is much higher for women than for the male Warriors, some of whom have struggled for years.

    MAYBE, by your thinking, of what you think IM to be, you are right. But online and women using all the marketing channels, thousands of them.

    GordonJ

    PS Of all the newsletters and autoresponders I've signed up for, 80% of the ones I read are sent by women. Gurus and IMers quickly hit the trash can, some make it impossible to opt out, so I never open, just trash.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

      But online and women using all the marketing channels, thousands of them.
      Yeah and that's an amazing thing: Just seems to me that Online (in general) there seem to be less women: I could be wrong.
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      • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        Yeah and that's an amazing thing: Just seems to me that Online (in general) there seem to be less women: I could be wrong.
        Maybe it has to do with where you hang out. Being ONLINE, in general, includes those who are online via cell and mobile devices, and if a woman is selling her shoes at eBay, is she doing IM? I don't know.

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        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
          Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

          Maybe it has to do with where you hang out. Being ONLINE, in general, includes those who are online via cell and mobile devices, and if a woman is selling her shoes at eBay, is she doing IM? I don't know.

          GordonJ
          Good point Gordon. I suppose mainly I was thinking about this Forum: There are definitely less Women than Men here. Maybe that's true with other places online?
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    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    Just curious.
    : )

    Cant you just use google to ask all of your random questions ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

      Cant you just use google to ask all of your random questions ?
      Lol. Well many People do ... However this is a discussion Forum.
      : )
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    lol a marketing forum, you need to hang out with some Buddhist monks or something and work out your yang.

    so much pointless wasted time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

      lol a marketing forum, you need to hang out with some Buddhist monks or something and work out your yang.

      so much pointless wasted time.
      Lol. Personally I think working on/creating a successful Business/Website is a great way for a Person to work on their "Yang." (Just my opinion.) Although it wasn't intentional People have treated me differently (more kindness and respect etc.) since I got serious about being an Entrepreneur.
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      • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        since I got serious about being an Entrepreneur.
        well I wish you every success in that endevour.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
          Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

          well I wish you every success in that endevour.
          Thanks. : ) Much appreciated.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        Lol. Personally I think working on/creating a successful Business/Website is a great way for a Person to work on their "Yang." (Just my opinion.) Although it wasn't intentional People have treated me differently (more kindness and respect etc.) since I got serious about being an Entrepreneur.
        I have given up on wanting to be an entraprenuer . I will just be ok with owning a business that make a real good profit margin .

        That I can run solo or with a small number of part time or seasonal help

        I move to Florida this weekend and I'm looking to start a business growing microgreens then add growing oyster mushroom and a bit of worm farming once I can get a few acres of land

        Entraprenuer is a catch all phrase and it doesn't say much untill you are in a business making a profit or enough to keep the business open .

        You are not a real entrprenuer untill you are in a business that has products that customers are buying

        And then you just might be self employed if the business is not something you can sell at some point .
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        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          You are not a real entrprenuer untill you are in a business that has products that customers are buying.
          Interesting: I'm definitely in the process of becoming a successful Entrepreneur. (Incidentally Alan Sugar said that true Entrepreneurs are born -- not made.) Not 100% sure I agree with it completely however I think there could be some truth to it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

            Interesting: I'm definitely in the process of becoming a successful Entrepreneur. (Incidentally Alan Sugar said that true Entrepreneurs are born -- not made.) Not 100% sure I agree with it completely however I think there could be some truth to it.

            tbh excloosivity -- speshly where there ain't no choice in the matter -- can elevate some & deny most.


            bcs we speakin' along gender lines here, jus' wanna raise that as an ishoo.


            Was it Reagan who said, "expectations of obviousness must be met by evidence to the contrary before equality of change rules the roost "?


            (No, actschwlly, that was Moi -- far as I recall, Reagan starred in a coupla movies alongside horses who weren't Ed, then trickled down his optimistic bonhomie till the next president guy showed.)
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          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

            Interesting: I'm definitely in the process of becoming a successful Entrepreneur. (Incidentally Alan Sugar said that true Entrepreneurs are born -- not made.) Not 100% sure I agree with it completely however I think there could be some truth to it.
            Because you seem to have a high bar ideal .

            What is you definition if a true entreprenure . Any shmuck with a business plan can call themselves an entraprenur.

            When you get to real or true enraprenures .
            Does someone have a profitable business. Or are all their profits going into growing the business so the business is getting bigger and worth more cash.

            Or have they sold a business .
            Money and profit are how you keep score in a business no matter where in the world you are doing business.
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            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
              Well People are born with certain "qualities" (etc.) and some of them lend themselves to being a successful Entrepreneur.
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    I should clarify what I said earlier.

    The internet is simply a means to market to customers....an advertising and communication platform. There isn't really an "internet" business.

    I suspect that, depending on what's being sold....the core industry...you'll find either more men or more women.

    But every industry tends to attract one gender over the other.

    In my industry, nearly everyone that owns the business in the US is a white middle aged (or elderly) man. In fact, I may be the only person in the industry that isn't a staunch Republican. It's just the kind of person attracted to this industry.

    Child care centers? I suspect are mostly owned by women....because that's who is more attracted to that industry.
    True, the US is doing far better than we are, a case in point is Bluesteel, investing a billion into expansion of their steel company in the US, (and not here). I guess AU, needs to start producing more socks, lol.

    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

    Women should know their place. Jonathan should know better than posting threads like this because one of them might read it and get ideas. Now we wouldn't want that now would we. When Jonathan emerges from his home office having spent endless hours perfecting his websites he expects the house to be spick and span, his dinner on the table and his wife looking attractive. Not sitting on her laptop making money.

    Men should ensure that they can spend as many hours as they like pursuing pipe dreams and the way they do this is to marry a woman who has a rich father who provides for them both.

    There, I said it.
    Sitting on her laptop,......pfft, l won't ask!

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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      True, the US is doing far better than we are, a case in point is Bluesteel, investing a billion into expansion of their steel company in the US, (and not here).
      There is no such company as Bluesteel. Never has been. Bluesteel was the code name of one of the conspirators who spread insider trading information in the movie Wall Street.

      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      I guess AU, needs to start producing more socks, lol.
      Your constant reference to socks will go right over the heads of anyone outside of Australia or New Zealand so it seems kind of pointless to constantly refer to them.

      Anyway, would you care to explain why you're making references to socks to our international friends, or would you like me to do it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Nolimihero
    There are statistically more men, but I don't think that is because of any kind of gender discrimination.
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