Just ordered Dr. Joe Dispenza's "Becoming Supernatural" off Amazon

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He is one of the most respected and world renowned Neuroscientists. Cannot wait to get it in a few days.

Anyone else listen or follow this guy ??

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  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    Al Koran wrote a book along those lines in the 50's (Bring out the magic in your mind) This is not new stuff. He would say things like, if you want a BMW, or some posh car of the day, buy a key chain with a BMW pendant on it. All about reinforcement, reminders to help with intent.

    Working towards these things with a clear vision is not supernatural. It's mainly the adjustments you make to move towards your goal.

    A woman told my father that she wanted desperately to go to visit Japan but had no funds. She was made redundant from her job and received a payoff. So she went to Japan. Now she could have kept those funds as a stopgap to finding her next job, but chose not to, but, she achieved her ambition.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post


      Working towards these things with a clear vision is not supernatural. It's mainly the adjustments you make to move towards your goal.
      It's just semantics that he used for the title of his latest book. That's all. If you followed him you would realize this is indeed not not "new" stuff he has come upon .

      It is cutting edge neuroscience that few know little about to the extent he is educated and the way he explains it.

      This guy has some powerful tools and notions. Check this out. You may need to watch it a few times to get it. It's pretty deep.

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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        It's just semantics that he used for the title of his latest book. That's all. If you followed him you would realize this is indeed not not "new" stuff he has come upon .

        It is cutting edge neuroscience that few know little about to the extent he is educated and the way he explains it.

        This guy has some powerful tools and notions. Check this out. You may need to watch it a few times to get it. It's pretty deep.
        now it is neuroscience that will be abused .. for personal development marketing .. did to many people in the self development field over use that quantum physics and vibrating strings stuff..

        we live in a rapidly changing world yet we are adapted to a slowly changing world .. we are getting addicted to the change and new things .. while having the conflicting desire for thing to stay the same and be predictable .

        the model he is talking about is a society where by 35 people have their carrers or earning potential mapped out so .. because they are waking up the same time going to work at the same place doing the same kind of work and making about the same kind of work ..everything sort of crystalizes .. and people go to sleep planning to wake up after retirement and do all the nice things they have to put off now
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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          now it is neuroscience that will be abused .. for personal development marketing .. did to many people in the self development field over use that quantum physics and vibrating strings stuff..
          You raise a very legit point. And I agree. Many are definitely profiting from this. But the way I look at it is at some point they were espousing the ideas before making any money. at all. So I try to go in with an open mind and see if what they say makes some sort of rational sense
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          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by discrat View Post

            You raise a very legit point. And I agree. Many are definitely profiting from this. But the way I look at it is at some point they were espousing the ideas before making any money. at all. So I try to go in with an open mind and see if what they say makes some sort of rational sense
            go over his powerful message but look for limiting beliefs that he implanting or further enforcing .. training your subconscious to set some kind of alarm off when new limiting beliefs are being fed in ..

            how come it is somewhat common for people to go through a midlife crises .. exactly when at 35 ..things are settle or however he put it ..although it is less common now with how often people change jobs and careers ..

            In my world .. i think living for any type of retirement is far worse for people than those that are living someone anchored to past traumas .. look at everything going on.. and all the way people mess their lives up ..in the hope of not having to work any more .

            people who live to be over a hundred have some bad habits .. but also tend to still have some work that makes them feel useful and gives them a reason to get out of bed..

            while the Monday morning heart attack .. is more common a few years after retirement .. than while people are working .
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    Las' time I ordered a regulah book or course or brain implant was before I discovered the miracle of Telekinetic Encyclopaedia Nightly.

    Ha! I know what you thinkin'!

    Surely Telepathic Encyclopaedia Nightly is the way sooperior learnin' experience for a gal switched out half her hairdo for a 5' antenna of possibility.

    Hey, but forgive Moi for presupposin' you all morons: prahblem with alla the offahs free flowin' into your braino c/o telepathic knowledge stuffs is the ads.

    Speshly nightly, when miscreant viruses preclood smoochie raptures we once knoo.

    So, yeah, I get actschwl books flown ovah outta the ether, if'n only jus' to smell the pages.

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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    I cannot put this book down.

    Here's an excerpt : "But in Medications, Anna learned that she could teach her body emotionally what here future would feel like ahead of the actual experience that elicits that feeling. Her body as the subconscious Mind did not know the difference between the real event and the one she was imagining and emotionally embracing."

    This is pretty powerful stuff. Maybe not new but it hit me as a pretty impressive notion .

    In other wards meditate and visualize yourself being rich before actually becoming rich, and feeling that emotion of Abundance and embracing that before it actually happens to you. Your body does not know the difference. Once you feel this emotion of Abundance through proper meditation you will not care about money as that part will take care of itself in the end.

    I wonder if the wisdom of Mr. Whitacre could attest to this phenomenon as it relates to selling and becoming wealthy ( emotionally) even before the coins hit the wallet??
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

      I wonder if the wisdom of Mr. Whitacre could attest to this phenomenon as it relates to selling and becoming wealthy ( emotionally) even before the coins hit the wallet??

      My Friend.
      I'm not sure I can give you what you want...but I can tell you this.

      That feeling you have? That thrill you feel (reading the book) as though you have just discovered fire?

      I know that feeling.
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      • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post


        I wonder if the wisdom of Mr. Whitacre could attest to this phenomenon as it relates to selling and becoming wealthy ( emotionally) even before the coins hit the wallet??

        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        My Friend.
        I'm not sure I can give you what you want...but I can tell you this.

        That feeling you have? That thrill you feel (reading the book) as though you have just discovered fire?

        I know that feeling.

        I imagine its the same mentality as "Fake it till you make it"
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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

          I imagine its the same mentality as "Fake it till you make it"
          I think that is a fair comparison. Although from what I gather this notion in the book goes a lot deeper than that.
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        My Friend.
        I'm not sure I can give you what you want...but I can tell you this.

        That feeling you have? That thrill you feel (reading the book) as though you have just discovered fire?

        I know that feeling.
        Thanks Claude !

        I know some think of his teachings as pseudoscience but he uses fact based evidenced with MRIs and EEG's etc...etc... to exhibit and back up his claims as it relates to the Brain, Mind, and Heart coherence.
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        • Profile picture of the author Odahh
          Originally Posted by discrat View Post

          Thanks Claude !

          I know some think of his teachings as pseudoscience but he uses fact based evidenced with MRIs and EEG's etc...etc... to exhibit and back up his claims as it relates to the Brain, Mind, and Heart coherence.
          this is the off topic .. not the mind forum .. so look at the marketing tools ..

          so how much is it to attend the workshop and get the training .. to learn this amazing ..solve everything type of meditation ..

          so you have bought the book .. now reading the book .. what is the sales letter you bough and that is hundreds of pages trying to sell you ..

          it sound like you are being sold a course on a special type of meditation

          drink 8 glasses of water a day has no basis in science .. it was part of marketing bottled water ..i can explain whe the plastic and cardboard industries where great with promoting recycling
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          • Profile picture of the author discrat
            Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

            this is the off topic .. not the mind forum .. so look at the marketing tools ..

            so how much is it to attend the workshop and get the training .. to learn this amazing ..solve everything type of meditation ..

            so you have bought the book .. now reading the book .. what is the sales letter you bough and that is hundreds of pages trying to sell you ..

            it sound like you are being sold a course on a special type of meditation

            I am extremely skeptical of self help and anything in general for that matter.

            But I guess you could say I was sold off his YT videos. Just watching them and getting a no BS behind the seen look at this guy. And how rational he sounded.

            The book itself I paid less than $10 for off the Used at AMZN
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            • Profile picture of the author Odahh
              Originally Posted by discrat View Post

              I am extremely skeptical of self help and anything in general for that matter.

              But I guess you could say I was sold off his YT videos. Just watching them and getting a no BS behind the seen look at this guy. And how rational he sounded.

              The book itself I paid less than $10 for off the Used at AMZN
              the great part about books .. if you have marketing built into the book . and the book gets given away or sold as used .. or pirated and printed in other countries ..instead of the smailsh royalty per book .. you are getting a lot of marketing that bring you far more money

              am i wrong stepping back.. and just look at the marketing system being employed .
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              • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
                Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                the great part about books .. if you have marketing built into the book . and the book gets given away or sold as used .. or pirated and printed in other countries ..instead of the smailsh royalty per book .. you are getting a lot of marketing that bring you far more money

                am i wrong stepping back.. and just look at the marketing system being employed .
                Nope, it's smart.
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                • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                  Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

                  Nope, it's smart.
                  people talking about abundance are usually firmly rooted in the language of lack ..
                  rich people tend to live on less than they earn .. ..there is no amount of meditation .. that can replace actually saving and investing part of what you earn or being debt free (from debt that is not producing income)
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                  • Profile picture of the author discrat
                    Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                    people talking about abundance are usually firmly rooted in the language of lack ..
                    rich people tend to live on less than they earn .. ..there is no amount of meditation .. that can replace actually saving and investing part of what you earn or being debt free (from debt that is not producing income)
                    But I would argue that there is NO amount of Money alone... that can make you truly happy and fulfilled in Life
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                    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                      But I would argue that there is NO amount of Money alone... that can make you truly happy and fulfilled in Life
                      there is .. zero money ... but then can that statement you made be rooted in lack ..and anti wealth belief system .

                      i revert to looking for a way to make money ..that brings happiness and fulfillment on a daily basis ..
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                      • Profile picture of the author discrat
                        Originally Posted by Odahh View Post


                        i revert to looking for a way to make money ..that brings happiness and fulfillment on a daily basis ..
                        Not for everyone. You live in a bubble if you think that is a universal notion. That exact belief you just described above has been the downfall of many.

                        Believe me I have been there and made a lot of money on a daily basis. It only acted as one out of many variables that made my Life complete and joyful. But definitely in of itself it will no way give you enrichment and fulfillment in your Life in any deep way!


                        It's called having Balance
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                          Originally Posted by discrat View Post


                          Believe me I have been there and made a lot of money on a daily basis. It only acted as one out of many variables that made my Life complete and joyful. But definitely in of itself it will no way give you enrichment and fulfillment in your Life in any deep way!


                          It's called having Balance
                          Very true.

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                          • Profile picture of the author discrat
                            Originally Posted by Declan O Flaherty View Post

                            Very true.

                            Having money is not the key to happiness, but it sure takes the sting out of being poor
                            - Del Boy (only fools and horses)
                            Yes so true, Declan. If you have trouble paying your rent every month or buying necessities like food then having Money is vitally important.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                          Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                          Not for everyone. You live in a bubble if you think that is a universal notion. That exact belief you just described above has been the downfall of many.

                          Believe me I have been there and made a lot of money on a daily basis. It only acted as one out of many variables that made my Life complete and joyful. But definitely in of itself it will no way give you enrichment and fulfillment in your Life in any deep way!


                          It's called having Balance
                          my bubble is built from a position there won be retirement in 30 years when i get to that age .. and there is potential for me to live another 60 years .from now ..

                          so my bubble is .. i am going to work the rest of my life .. so i should find do work that i enjoy and is rewarding .
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                          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                            Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                            my bubble is built from a position there won be retirement in 30 years when i get to that age .. and there is potential for me to live another 60 years .from now ..

                            so my bubble is .. i am going to work the rest of my life .. so i should find do work that i enjoy and is rewarding .
                            When you say "retirement" do you mean Social Security?

                            If it's going to take 30 more years for you to reach retirement age, you can put aside $100-$200 a month now, in an index mutual fund....and retire wealthy, not needing Social Security at all.

                            Working the rest of your life can be a choice, it isn't necessary.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                      But I would argue that there is NO amount of Money alone... that can make you truly happy and fulfilled in Life
                      Unhappy people are unhappy, no matter how much money they have, where they live, how much they drink, how many vacations they take. Unhappiness is self generated.

                      The same with happiness, unless you are being tortured or live in abject poverty, or are ill.

                      But having enough money to not have to worry about having enough? If you are unhappy, you find something else to be unhappy about. If you are happy, it won't make you more happy. But it will make life less painful.

                      Having money gives you choices. Not having money reduces your choices, and changes them.

                      Sorry, I speak in declarative sentences. A failing I find humorous.
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                      • Profile picture of the author discrat
                        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                        Unhappy people are unhappy, no matter how much money they have, where they live, how much they drink, how many vacations they take. Unhappiness is self generated.

                        The same with happiness, unless you are being tortured or live in abject poverty, or are ill.

                        But having enough money to not have to worry about having enough? If you are unhappy, you find something else to be unhappy about. If you are happy, it won't make you more happy. But it will make life less painful.

                        Having money gives you choices. Not having money reduces your choices, and changes them.

                        Sorry, I speak in declarative sentences. A failing I find humorous.
                        Claude, I agree with about everything you just said except the bold part. If you are a truly happy person by nature, and you all of the sudden win the $500 milliion powerball you will be more happy than before . I guarantee it
                        ( THAT'S IF YOU HIRE THE RIGHT ATTORNEY , KEEP RELATIVES AT BAY WITH THE HANDOUTS, KEEP YOUR NAME ANONYMOUS, TOLERATE THE "WOODWORK" PEOPLE ETC...ETC.. LOL)
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                        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                          Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                          Claude, I agree with about everything you just said except the bold part. If you are a truly happy person by nature, and you all of the sudden win the $500 milliion powerball you will be more happy than before . I guarantee it
                          ( THAT'S IF YOU HIRE THE RIGHT ATTORNEY , KEEP RELATIVES AT BAY WITH THE HANDOUTS, KEEP YOUR NAME ANONYMOUS, TOLERATE THE "WOODWORK" PEOPLE ETC...ETC.. LOL)
                          If you are a very kind giving person, and the winnings are confidential (and you tell nobody) I see where that could be true. You could do a lot of good, without anyone knowing it was you. And you would die contented.

                          So I agree with you.

                          But for the vast majority of people? If they played the lottery (which means they aren't wealthy already. Wealthy people generally don't play the lottery).....they like the fantasy of having lots of money.

                          A million dollars? It could fund a retirement, buy a nice home, you'd be able to pay for your kid's college....and you would return to normal after a few years... A million sounds like a lot. But it isn't. A mortgage, a few cars, some savings...taxes...and it's gone.

                          If you won $100 million dollars? And you are like the vast majority of lottery players?

                          There would be the initial high from winning. Maybe you would go on a nice vacation. Maybe pay off the mortgages of your friends and relatives...something like that...

                          And after the initial thrill....comes the crash.

                          You see, you (I don't mean you personally) have no experience with real wealth. You don't know how to treat the money...how to handle the inevitable friends and relatives that want it.

                          And none of them will be happy. Why? Because they will find out that others got more than they did....or you bought one aunt a home and not another....

                          And once they borrow money (Which of course never gets paid back) you are now their source of money. And if you ever say "No" to a money request, you are now the enemy.

                          And nobody will turn on you....like people that owe you money.

                          You invite everyone over for Thanksgiving, and now it's expected forever. And even though they showed up.."He's rich, it's the least he could do".

                          Soon, you are expected to give money over...without much of a reason at all. And nothing you do for them will feel like it's enough (to them)

                          In my life, I've met several big lottery winners. All of them are miserable. They buy a mansion in a rich neighborhood...they trash the mansion, because they have no idea how to treat property like that. The neighbors quickly hate them. If you are ever in a truly high end neighborhood, and know that one person on that street won the lottery...you can easily spot that home.

                          And what are the chances that everyone in your family...especially your spouse...will agree with you on how to spend the money? Who to share it with?

                          Divorce? Bankruptcy? , The divorce rate among lottery winners is four times the national average and you have a 65% chance of going bankrupt within 15 years (I looked it up).

                          Lottery players, by the fact that they play the lottery, are not great money managers. Not used to making large incomes. And none of that changes when they win.

                          I speak from the experiences that have been shared with me from lottery winners, large insurance settlement recipients, wealthy friends, and my own experience.
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                          • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                            If you are a very kind giving person, and the winnings are confidential (and you tell nobody) I see where that could be true. You could do a lot of good, without anyone knowing it was you. And you would die contented.

                            So I agree with you.

                            But for the vast majority of people? If they played the lottery (which means they aren't wealthy already. Wealthy people generally don't play the lottery).....they like the fantasy of having lots of money.

                            A million dollars? It could fund a retirement, buy a nice home, you'd be able to pay for your kid's college....and you would return to normal after a few years... A million sounds like a lot. But it isn't. A mortgage, a few cars, some savings...taxes...and it's gone.

                            If you won $100 million dollars? And you are like the vast majority of lottery players?

                            There would be the initial high from winning. Maybe you would go on a nice vacation. Maybe pay off the mortgages of your friends and relatives...something like that...

                            And after the initial thrill....comes the crash.

                            You see, you (I don't mean you personally) have no experience with real wealth. You don't know how to treat the money...how to handle the inevitable friends and relatives that want it.

                            And none of them will be happy. Why? Because they will find out that others got more than they did....or you bought one aunt a home and not another....

                            And once they borrow money (Which of course never gets paid back) you are now their source of money. And if you ever say "No" to a money request, you are now the enemy.

                            And nobody will turn on you....like people that owe you money.

                            You invite everyone over for Thanksgiving, and now it's expected forever. And even though they showed up.."He's rich, it's the least he could do".

                            Soon, you are expected to give money over...without much of a reason at all. And nothing you do for them will feel like it's enough (to them)

                            In my life, I've met several big lottery winners. All of them are miserable. They buy a mansion in a rich neighborhood...they trash the mansion, because they have no idea how to treat property like that. The neighbors quickly hate them. If you are ever in a truly high end neighborhood, and know that one person on that street won the lottery...you can easily spot that home.

                            And what are the chances that everyone in your family...especially your spouse...will agree with you on how to spend the money? Who to share it with?

                            Divorce? Bankruptcy? , The divorce rate among lottery winners is four times the national average and you have a 65% chance of going bankrupt within 15 years (I looked it up).

                            Lottery players, by the fact that they play the lottery, are not great money managers. Not used to making large incomes. And none of that changes when they win.

                            I speak from the experiences that have been shared with me from lottery winners, large insurance settlement recipients, wealthy friends, and my own experience.
                            I suppose you could say, I'm going to give you all an equal amount, and that's it or
                            say you will distribute what is left In percentage terms when you die, but that might lead to a little accident happening to you. Perhaps it's a good idea to win the lotto in your 70's when friends and family are dwindling, not that you can predetermine that, lol.

                            I, having retired have enough to keep me going, pay the rent, buy food and clothes and a few little luxuries, have a vacation etc.

                            I could upgrade the rental I am in but so far have chosen not too. Does it make me happier to know that I'm "OK', well, perhaps a little.

                            If I won a multi million lottery prize, I may buy my own place but would not get a huge mansion. Just a nice, secure, small home in a reasonable place with facilities close by. Minimum upkeep, perhaps big enough for two just In case I became lucky in love again, Have more vacations and a few more gadgets, décor and a better car etc. if I succumbed to ever loaning out money, It would be gifting, would never expect it back.

                            I would not have that need for an extravagant blowout so many winners have.

                            Money may make you feel a little more secure, but it will not make you feel much happier. A lot of peoples drive in life is for the attainment of money. If they get there, the need for a purpose in life can go away. It may have been your only drive. You had the most fun getting there and now you have it, the fun and purpose will disappear from your life, hence you will feel unhappy. You will say: Been there, done that.
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                            • Profile picture of the author discrat
                              Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post


                              If I won a multi million lottery prize, I may buy my own place but would not get a huge mansion.[/B] Just a nice, secure, small home in a reasonable place with facilities close by. Minimum upkeep, perhaps big enough for two just In case I became lucky in love again, Have more vacations and a few more gadgets, décor and a better car etc. if I succumbed to ever loaning out money, It would be gifting, would never expect it back.

                              I would not have that need for an extravagant blowout so many winners have.
                              Same here. I would just pay off the mortgage of the house we have now. I really like it.

                              And then I would just rent real extravagant houses on the beach for 2 weeks at a time in places like Corpus Christi , Galveston, and Hilton Head Island a couple times a year.
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                              • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                                Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                                Same here. I would just pay off the mortgage of the house we have now. I really like it.

                                And then I would just rent real extravagant houses on the beach for 2 weeks at a time in places like Corpus Christi , Galveston, and Hilton Head Island a couple times a year.
                                this isn't meant to be critical ..or in any bad way .

                                instead of meditating on the feeling of rich and becoming rich.. meditate on the feeling of having a paid off mortgage and the wealth that provide the property tax payments every year and the money you need to rent those very nice houses for a few weeks every few months .

                                what would having your mortgage paid off feel like ..that feeling you want ..is what you should feel when you are meditating..
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                                • Profile picture of the author discrat
                                  Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                                  this isn't meant to be critical ..or in any bad way .

                                  instead of meditating on the feeling of rich and becoming rich.. meditate on the feeling of having a paid off mortgage and the wealth that provide the property tax payments every year and the money you need to rent those very nice houses for a few weeks every few months .

                                  what would having your mortgage paid off feel like ..that feeling you want ..is what you should feel when you are meditating..
                                  Definitely a great point. Be specific in your Meditations
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                                  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                                    Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                                    Definitely a great point. Be specific in your Meditations
                                    abundance is far more than money though ..but still look at the growing list of thing that only rich people had access to that are becoming more available and affordable . so i personally find folly in trying to visualize richness .. it is way to vague ..because real richness is based on individual tastes ..

                                    i have no interest in a big house or nor do i want to ever own a car again .. i would prefer a couple bedroom villa with a nice swimming pool and several acres of land in a tropical country ..and on my land plenty of fruit trees producing fruit all year .. and plenty of fresh coconuts available in the area . so if i want something to snack on .. i walk through the yard and grab fresh fruit .. or graze on other things ready to eat ..

                                    in the US can't really get that anywhere .. plenty of places that is available though ..
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                            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                              Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post


                              If I won a multi million lottery prize,
                              There is a huge...insurmountable difference between earning a hundred million dollars through your efforts...and winning a hundred million dollars by buying a ticket.

                              Earning large sums of money changes you on a cellular level. You become a different person. You become a person capable of earning that much money. The ambition needed, the skills developed, the views about money...all evolve when you are actually accomplishing something that includes wealth.

                              But winning a hundred million dollars? You don't change at all. All your flaws and eccentricities are just now magnified. Any pettiness, thoughts of revenge because of personal slights...all get magnified and start expressing themselves.

                              Winning the lottery isn't wish fulfillment...it's like getting blind drunk and then getting punched in the face. We talk about how we would react...how we would behave....but if it happens, all that quickly goes out the window.
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                                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                There is a huge...insurmountable difference between earning a hundred million dollars through your efforts...and winning a hundred million dollars by buying a ticket.

                                Earning large sums of money changes you on a cellular level. You become a different person. You become a person capable of earning that much money. The ambition needed, the skills developed, the views about money...all evolve when you are actually accomplishing something that includes wealth.

                                But winning a hundred million dollars? You don't change at all. All your flaws and eccentricities are just now magnified. Any pettiness, thoughts of revenge because of personal slights...all get magnified and start expressing themselves.

                                Winning the lottery isn't wish fulfillment...it's like getting blind drunk and then getting punched in the face. We talk about how we would react...how we would behave....but if it happens, all that quickly goes out the window.
                                I don't think it's always as clear cut as you say. It can be that you hit upon a winning formula, hit upon a method, got a lucky break or invented or promoted a product that captured the publics imagination and got sudden large sales after years of trying. It all adds up to yes, of course, perseverance, but equally the big money can come suddenly and when it does, you may be only a little more prepared than someone who wins the lottery but not greatly so. Remember what we were talking about in the other place about internet guru's having impoverished families if they suddenly died.

                                You will notice I said multi-millions as referring to a lottery win and in that I was thinking more in terms of 5 million which would still be life changing to most .

                                So, in both cases, often you would achieve either sudden wealth in a short space of time or instant wealth for a lottery win.

                                You talked about saving over time about putting a few hundred aside into this or that each month. Then, you decide to cash out. A sudden lump sum becomes available when you retire. You know it's coming and have spent most of your life being used to leading a modest lifestyle in pursuit of that end. Does it mean that you are mentally prepared for it? not always.
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                                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                                  Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                                  You talked about saving over time about putting a few hundred aside into this or that each month. Then, you decide to cash out. A sudden lump sum becomes available when you retire. You know it's coming and have spent most of your life being used to leading a modest lifestyle in pursuit of that end. Does it mean that you are mentally prepared for it? not always.
                                  That's not the same as winning money.

                                  If you save and invest over years, you are developing habits and discipline that will inform you about what to do with the money.

                                  After all, it is your money.

                                  But winning money? That's someone else's money. That's a huge difference.

                                  Being an employee, and having your retirement paid for as part of a benefits package is also different from saving and investing.

                                  With pension plan that are built without your involvement, it's your money, but it didn't take discipline to save it. It didn't take a resistance to temptation to take the money now.

                                  If saving and investing take discipline, planning, and patience.....you'll treat that money differently than if it's just given to you in a lump sum.

                                  I suppose there are exceptions. Stupid people...for example...can take all their hard earned retirement fund....and give it to a friend to start a business. Then they lose it all. That sort of thing.

                                  By the way, inherited money is very much like lottery winnings. A sudden windfall of money, that the person isn't psychologically prepared for. So it gets wasted, usually very quickly.
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                                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                                There is a huge...insurmountable difference between earning a hundred million dollars through your efforts...and winning a hundred million dollars by buying a ticket.

                                Earning large sums of money changes you on a cellular level. You become a different person. You become a person capable of earning that much money. The ambition needed, the skills developed, the views about money...all evolve when you are actually accomplishing something that includes wealth.

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                                the people i have met and talked with over the last several years who had built wealth ..i never asked exact net worth ..there is just a different way people who build wealth talk about money .. the very nice cars rich people tend to buy get well taken care of and tend to hold their value or go up in value over time ..

                                or if any value is "lost" a wealthy person can tell you how much more they peilive the made from that car .. than they lost in value ..

                                i've also run into people whos families had wealth for well over a hundred years .. and they spend a lot of time doing charity work in the US and around the world .. it think that is the only way parents who build wealth can keep their children grounded ..

                                without that framework of building wealth people are money sieves and no amount of money will solve their poverty .. they will just be poor with more expensive tastes ..
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    I had ulcer for 2 years and was super skinny, as in I lost 7 pounds in just a week w/o even exercise. Whenever I go to the doctor and take my prescribed pills I would still be so skeptic, the meds worked though but after a few days I would still be vomiting every morning and had a hard time eating everytime! Times passed and I discovered a book called "The Secret" by Rhonda Byrne<3, it contained about "the secret" to everything that has in my life! after reading about it I changed like day compared to night. It made my life so bright, not only had I stopped vomiting and felt great after a few days of forgetting about I had illness, I was able to tell things that I desired deep down in my heart. I'm just a teenager and somehow, I already know what to do with my life with full confidence! Living life has never been so simple, happy, wealthy, peaceful and FUN. Life isn't a bore, it's meant to be lived fully, every good nor bad things in this world is created for us, and all we have to do is to attract it. The world is full of mysterious, overflowing, joyous abundance, so why not take a state of life that cushions and comforts? (I'll say it again) EVERYTHING GOOD NOR BAD IS A BIRTHRIGHT AND IT ALL STARTS WITH OUR HABITUAL WAY OF THINKING. What you think and send out will always come back. It's a way on how I see/judge other people, like the skeptic ones, always noticing the bad spot in the middle of a beautiful view, so guess what? are they happy? I don't think so haha, likewise to the people with good attitude and expects success? well THEY GET SUCCESS. The law is just live your life with fulfillment, faith, joy, wealth and peace!
    Good luck on your daily work and always remember to be in a positive state of mind. BECAUSE MIND IS OVER MATTER, It's still related right??
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