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Been reading a lot lately about fasting because of an article that caught my attention.

You go without food for a few days and only drink water.

Been reading a lot of stuff that says it's beneficial in so many ways. If most of what I read is true...the benefits are amazing:

can reverse some diseases

resets your metabolism

clears your mind to focus like never before

reverses aging by cleaning bad cells from your body

the whole thing is interesting...

I'm thinking about going on an extended water fast (10 days).

Anyone else tried this, and if you have do you have any thoughts or feedback?
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  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

    Been reading a lot lately about fasting because of an article that caught my attention.

    You go without food for a few days and only drink water.

    Been reading a lot of stuff that says it's beneficial in so many ways. If most of what I read is true...the benefits are amazing:

    can reverse some diseases

    resets your metabolism

    clears your mind to focus like never before

    reverses aging by cleaning bad cells from your body

    the whole thing is interesting...

    I'm thinking about going on an extended water fast (10 days).

    Anyone else tried this, and if you have do you have any thoughts or feedback?
    Our resident expert: Claude, will be along to discuss this topic with you shortly.

    Oh, hang on a minute, you said fasting, thought you meant "Fast Food"

    All joking aside (yes they were jokes) I don't think anyone here does such a thing. The nearest I have got to fasting is called retirement. You just eat less.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Years ago my mother decided to fast and ended up in the hospital with a concussion - she was light headed from hunger after 5 days- fell and hit her head.


    I'd suggest you look into 'intermittent fasting' rather than a drastic 10 day water only fast.



    Two days a week (I fasted on Tues and Thurs for a couple years) or fasting 18 hrs a day and eating only during 6 hrs....is healthier than a long term fast.


    I don't necessary 'buy' all the lists of pros - but I know from experience it can shake up/wake up your metabolism. Just don't go way out there with it on the first try - do a weekend or every other day...to start with.
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

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      Two days a week (I fasted on Tues and Thurs for a couple years) or fasting 18 hrs a day and eating only during 6 hrs....is healthier than a long term fast.


      I don't necessary 'buy' all the lists of pros - but I know from experience it can shake up/wake up your metabolism. Just don't go way out there with it on the first try - do a weekend or every other day...to start with.
      I prefer a 8-10 hour window of eating with the biggest meal rather at breakfast or lunch or before 3 pm . It more in the belief I get better sleep if my digestive system is resting as well.

      I'm not much a fan of skipping breakfast and eating a huge meal close to going to bed and the getting up and working out in the morning and not eating until lunchtime

      People doing that are probably just teaching their bodies to turn that big dinner into fat stores while they sleep or their bodies will cannibalizes small amounts of muscle every day to reduce the calories burned in the morning

      I had put 20 pounds on the first couple months of the lockdowns and I pulled that off from October to now
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    I usually "fast" for around 42 hours or so maybe one day a week. In my view, this helps reset the metabolism and gives the liver a day off to recover.

    But I wouldn't recommend anyone going into a strict water-only fast unprepared. Several years ago, I decided to cut down on carbs by reducing or eliminating foods containing wheat, pasta, rice and potatoes. I've since been able to slowly reintroduce the odd carb-rich item, but I've got to the stage where I no longer crave them.

    For some years now, I've only needed one meal a day, usually in the evening. During the day, I'll just have coffee, tea or water. This makes it really quite painless to fast for a day - it's literally just skipping a meal.

    Apart from any health benefits, what I enjoy most about this regime is the extra time it's given me during each day, plus the added pleasure of planning and savouring that daily meal. For me, it's a win-win.
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  • Profile picture of the author max5ty
    @ Kay King - that sounds terrible about your mom. I'm thinking (now that I consider this more), trying to do 10 days right away is a bit too extreme. I'll probably start with no more than 3 days.

    The 2 days a week is interesting. I had read a lot about intermittent fasting also...it seems to be a big thing.

    @ Frank Donovan - the interesting stuff I read about was how your body switches from burning carbs to fat after a day or two...and resets itself to do this. I'm probably not explaining it exactly right, but I found it interesting. The one meal a day thing is interesting.

    @ lanfear63 - when you mentioned "fast food" it reminded me of that ad that said something like:

    "Was a very smart person that put the "s" in fast food"
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize
    One of our friends adult children did a water fast for religious
    reasons and died during that. He was in his forties.

    So I would not recommend going on a water fast unless you
    are under a doctor's supervision and/or excellent health.

    When I was younger, in my twenties and thirties, my normal
    weight was 125 lbs and whenever I noticed a weight gain,
    I would fast for three days until that extra weight was gone.

    I can't do that anymore since I'm elderly now and my health
    isn't that great, and I don't want to do anything to make
    myself worse.

    Just be very mindful of what you do, and make sure that
    you take your overall health condition into consideration
    before doing anything rash, don't just do things because
    it's the fad or because you read about it in a book.
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    • Profile picture of the author max5ty
      Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

      One of our friends adult children did a water fast for religious
      reasons and died during that. He was in his forties.

      So I would not recommend going on a water fast unless you
      are under a doctor's supervision and/or excellent health.

      When I was younger, in my twenties and thirties, my normal
      weight was 125 lbs and whenever I noticed a weight gain,
      I would fast for three days until that extra weight was gone.

      I can't do that anymore since I'm elderly now and my health
      isn't that great, and I don't want to do anything to make
      myself worse.

      Just be very mindful of what you do, and make sure that
      you take your overall health condition into consideration
      before doing anything rash, don't just do things because
      it's the fad or because you read about it in a book.
      Interesting comments Monetize.

      I'll take your comments into consideration.

      It's scary to hear that someone died while fasting. That's sad. I'll probably do some more research into the whole subject of fasting
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      • Profile picture of the author Monetize
        Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

        Interesting comments Monetize.

        I'll take your comments into consideration.

        It's scary to hear that someone died while fasting. That's sad. I'll probably do some more research into the whole subject of fasting

        I am not a doctor but I'm fairly certain that he had
        some underlying medical condition. I read that he
        had been fasting on his blog, after he passed.

        I have noticed that the younger generations are not
        going to the doctor the way we did back in the olden
        days. We went to the doctor to get checkups and to
        make sure we were okay even when nothing was
        wrong, it's just something that we did.

        But these days people don't go to the doctor until
        they have three days left to live. Many people are
        getting their medical advice from sites like WebMD
        and social media, then they take some Robitussin
        or whatever and carry on.

        And this was even before COVID, I'm not even
        referring to being on lockdown.

        I don't know what's going on with people. They
        will spend all their money fixing up their cars or
        going on vacations but don't give a care about
        themselves.
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        • Profile picture of the author Odahh
          Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

          I am not a doctor

          I don't know what's going on with people. They
          will spend all their money fixing up their cars or
          going on vacations but don't give a care about
          themselves.
          The younger generations with the money to go on vacation probably have the financial ability to take care of their Health

          Those who have to put all their money into fixing their cars and filling their tank to get to work might not be able to afford to go to the doctor

          I like taking vacations outside the US where I can afford to pay out of pocket for a visit and pay 50 bucks

          Medical care is to expensive for many in the younger generations
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by max5ty View Post


    I'm thinking about going on an extended water fast (10 days).
    Please don't. It will be a shock to your system, and I promise you that it will make you weak and sick.

    Start with a day or two. If that feels fine, wait awhile, and try three days. Work up to it.
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    • Profile picture of the author max5ty
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      Please don't. It will be a shock to your system, and I promise you that it will make you weak and sick.

      Start with a day or two. If that feels fine, wait awhile, and try three days. Work up to it.
      Thanks.

      Actually, I'm starting to think my original goal was a little crazy now that I look back on it.

      You're right. I'm just going to start out being reasonable and go from there
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

        Thanks.

        Actually, I'm starting to think my original goal was a little crazy now that I look back on it.

        You're right. I'm just going to start out being reasonable and go from there
        What are you hoping to accomplish with a water fast

        The longer fasts traditionally worked to create hallucinations or deep religious devotion

        Today it seems to be used as a way to cleanse or an attempt to lose weight

        I'm sure there are many other roles of fasting In the past.
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  • So much hangs on where your natchrl metabolism is at.

    Gotta tellya, if'n I fasted for more'n 2 days, hoomanity would finally discovah the secret of invisibility.

    It is naht in my intrest to do this -- but as a confirmed cocktail lovah, prolly I could use a liquid detox sumtime.

    So I would wanna look in on sumthin' like fastin' as a meditative an' soulful kinda thing.

    When X hours are ovah (an' your biggest prahblem is how not to bite chunks outta your neighbor's dog), you can resoom your regulah eatin' plan.

    I appreciate the discipline here.

    Prahblem with plenty food plans are the BANS gowin' on for weeks.

    Like ditchin' all carbs.

    What you gaht here is imbalance playin' out for months, steada the regyoolr punctuation of a fastin' regime.

    So that is why ima gowin' on an ANTIFAST.

    I will endeavah to consoom alla my regulah carbs, proteins, vitamins etc ... but ima pig out Sundays on Blitz Muh Tits treats.

    I been undahweight for muh height pretty much forevah, an' I figure this is MY TIME to start packin' a bootay could kill a frickin' mule if'n I pirouette all spontaneous.

    If'n I can dual wield squidos all simultaneous, prolly I can get to combat evil for reals.
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  • I tried fasting for 48 hours. I was successful in doing it, but I must admit, in the last 12 hours of my fast I was already think about what to eat when I'm done. LOL.

    I don't really know if it did something for me, though. Maybe it was good for my liver, I don't know.
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  • Profile picture of the author N1coleW
    It doesn't work like that, you can't fasting 10 days without any practice before, start from one day, experienced your feelings and then you can increase the amount of hours. Just go step by step, you need to prepare your body
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  • Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

    Been reading a lot lately about fasting because of an article that caught my attention.

    You go without food for a few days and only drink water.

    Been reading a lot of stuff that says it's beneficial in so many ways. If most of what I read is true...the benefits are amazing:

    can reverse some diseases

    resets your metabolism

    clears your mind to focus like never before

    reverses aging by cleaning bad cells from your body

    the whole thing is interesting...

    I'm thinking about going on an extended water fast (10 days).

    Anyone else tried this, and if you have do you have any thoughts or feedback?
    I personally haven't tried fasting exactly as you stated above, however I did fast using the 16/8 fast.

    So you only eat from 12pm to 8pm, and fast from 8pm to 12pm the next day.
    It worked really well and I did this for 1.5 years.
    I lost weight and was never sick in that time.

    I think it is worth doing personally.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize
    I saw this article and thought of this thread.
    Scientists say that fasting can help fight infections.

    https://www.studyfinds.org/fasting-food-poisoning
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  • Profile picture of the author max5ty
    So an update for anyone wanting to know:

    Today I ended a 10 day water-only fast. Actually at 12:01 this morning.

    The first two days were tough because I kept wanting to eat. After about the 4th day I really wasn't hungry, but sometimes it would come in waves but pass quickly.

    By the fifth day, I was having terrible leg cramps that were unbearable so I got some zero-calorie electrolyte packets to put in my water. I discovered most of the problems people have when they fast (other than having a medical condition) is that they lose electrolytes. I was drinking over a gallon of water a day, but that also causes your body to flush out electrolytes. So, I would highly recommend anyone doing over a 3 day fast to make sure you have packets or powder or whatever of electrolytes. There are all kinds of brands.

    On the ninth day, I was very irritable. Every little thing would set me off. Not sure why.

    On the tenth and final day, I was actually thinking it wouldn't be that hard to drag this out to 14 days...but then I came to my senses.

    I run every morning and have for years...but by the fourth day, I just didn't have the energy to run anymore. I just walked from then on out.

    Some say they get great mental clarity...I can't say that happened to me. My mind seemed to be all over the place most of the time.

    Some say on days 6 - 8 (or whatever) they had tons of energy. I can't say mine worked like that. My energy wouldn't go by the day, it would go by the hour. I might get up and feel lazy and then a couple of hours later be full of energy for a couple of hours...but I couldn't say it was all day.

    On day seven I spent hours looking up healthy recipes online. I discovered zoodles which are zucchini cut into strips. Some of the recipes were making me hungry. I'm trying some of them. There was also spaghetti squash that looked really good...recipes for sweet potatoes that were amazing. This list could go on forever...

    Just wanted to give a quick update on this post
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by max5ty View Post


      On the ninth day, I was very irritable. Every little thing would set me off. Not sure why.

      You were irritable because you were starving.

      I've been wondering if fasting affects men and
      women differently. I'm pretty sure it does, I think
      men can go longer without eating.

      I know that I can't go for more than a couple of
      days without eating if I'm sick or something and
      can't get out of bed, after that I have to call
      somebody to bring me something to eat.

      If you like zoodles you should try a spiralizer.

      BTW, I wish you would have put fasting in the
      title, every time I see this thread I think it's
      about copywriting.

      And didn't everybody here tell you not to do
      that water fasting thing?
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      • Profile picture of the author max5ty
        Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

        You were irritable because you were starving.

        I've been wondering if fasting affects men and
        women differently. I'm pretty sure it does, I think
        men can go longer without eating.

        I know that I can't go for more than a couple of
        days without eating if I'm sick or something and
        can't get out of bed, after that I have to call
        somebody to bring me something to eat.

        If you like zoodles you should try a spiralizer.

        BTW, I wish you would have put fasting in the
        title, every time I see this thread I think it's
        about copywriting.

        And didn't everybody here tell you not to do
        that water fasting thing?
        I agree I should have put fasting in the title.

        And, a spiralizer, that is on my list next time I go to Walmart.

        I did a ton of research on the whole fasting thing. It's been done for ages for all kinds of reasons.

        I think I was irritable on day 9 because I knew I only had one day left. I really wasn't hungry at all. Matter of fact, on day 8 when I was in bed, for a minute I was wondering what I had eaten because I felt so full.

        I don't think I'll do 10 days again. I would probably stick to 3. There is a lot of scientific research out there that has studied long-term fasting for getting rid of a lot of diseases. Also, those undergoing chemo and fasting for 3 days prior had a lot less damage.

        The one thing that intrigued me about fasting was "autophagy" which is where our body gets rid of old cells. All very interesting.

        Thanks for your feedback
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  • Thanks for the update.

    Seems a balanced intake has merits.

    Excess has its drawbacks, even if'n you partyin' with Moi, but there is a downside to wholescale puritanism also.

    Cool you done the test tho.

    Without testin', what is there?

    (Acstschwlly, in the current climate, it is called "makin' shit up".)
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  • Profile picture of the author max5ty
    A couple of last things...

    went and had blood work today, everything was good.

    Was going to try the Keto diet after the fast. They say after around 24 hours of fasting your body uses up its glycogen and starts burning fat...which is what the Keto diet is all about. Lots of fat, lots of protein, and very few carbs.

    Well, I do not think I can do the Keto diet because of my running every day. I tried to run the last couple of days with hardly any carbs and just couldn't do it...so I'm off the Keto thing. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

    Was talking to the doctor today...if you're a heavy coffee drinker, a smoker, drink a lot, have food addictions, diabetes, heart problems, other medical conditions that weaken your immune system, it's not advisable to fast for an extended (or any) period of time without medical supervision
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

      A couple of last things...

      went and had blood work today, everything was good.

      Was going to try the Keto diet after the fast. They say after around 24 hours of fasting your body uses up its glycogen and starts burning fat...which is what the Keto diet is all about. Lots of fat, lots of protein, and very few carbs.

      Well, I do not think I can do the Keto diet because of my running every day. I tried to run the last couple of days with hardly any carbs and just couldn't do it...so I'm off the Keto thing. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

      Was talking to the doctor today...if you're a heavy coffee drinker, a smoker, drink a lot, have food addictions, diabetes, heart problems, other medical conditions that weaken your immune system, it's not advisable to fast for an extended (or any) period of time without medical supervision
      Just go to and do a Google search Maxheadroom, and you will have an answer you can blindly trust!

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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

      A couple of last things...

      Well, I do not think I can do the Keto diet because of my running every day. I tried to run the last couple of days with hardly any carbs and just couldn't do it...so I'm off the Keto thing. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

      supervision
      Sources of macro nutrients matter a lot .

      And developing a way of eating you can maintain long term.

      Less highly processed foods and vegetable oils. And more vegetables . Potatoes instead of potato chips or powdered mashed potatoes.
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

      A couple of last things...

      went and had blood work today, everything was good.

      Was going to try the Keto diet after the fast. They say after around 24 hours of fasting your body uses up its glycogen and starts burning fat...which is what the Keto diet is all about. Lots of fat, lots of protein, and very few carbs.

      Well, I do not think I can do the Keto diet because of my running every day. I tried to run the last couple of days with hardly any carbs and just couldn't do it...so I'm off the Keto thing. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

      Was talking to the doctor today...if you're a heavy coffee drinker, a smoker, drink a lot, have food addictions, diabetes, heart problems, other medical conditions that weaken your immune system, it's not advisable to fast for an extended (or any) period of time without medical supervision

      I don't know how old you are but Dr. Andrew Weil says that when you get
      older, like in your fifties/sixties, you're actually supposed to have a little
      extra weight on you.

      He said that in case you get sick your body needs something to draw on.

      Not obese just a few extra pounds, I would say maybe fifteen pounds or
      whatever you are comfortable with.

      So if anyone reading this is old and skinny, you might want to look into that.
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      • Profile picture of the author max5ty
        Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

        I don't know how old you are but Dr. Andrew Weil says that when you get
        older, like in your fifties/sixties, you're actually supposed to have a little
        extra weight on you.
        I'm 61.

        Been a health freak ever since I was in college getting my Bachelor Of Science in Marketing almost 40 years ago (so long ago smh)...

        I still do some marketing...starting at 250K (customer base)...but other than that I'm retired...

        My avatar says it all...I said I would retire at 50...so Max 50 is where I was...
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        • Profile picture of the author Odahh
          Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

          I'm 61.

          Been a health freak ever since I was in college getting my Bachelor Of Science in Marketing almost 40 years ago (so long ago smh)...

          I still do some marketing...starting at 250K...but other than that I'm retired...

          My avatar says it all...I said I would retire at 50...so Max 50 is where I was...
          I was in food processing in for most of my 20's. It drove me nuts and partly ruined my physical health. I was working different shifts or different hours almost every few weeks for 8 years.

          Stress can turn a very healthy meal into a terrible meal for your body as the cortisol messes up digestion.

          One question that boggles my mind about health nuts is why if you are already on a super healthy diet. Is it health nut who do these supper invasive cleanses . A pile of broccoli a day or a kale smoothie. 3-4 tablespoons of ground flaxseed a day and another tablespoon of apple cider vinegar .

          And the boost to your bodies cleansing system should be great
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        • Profile picture of the author Monetize
          Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

          I'm 61.

          I am sixty.

          I can't say that I was ever a health nut. I have gone vegetarian every once in
          awhile but it never lasted long because I love steaks, prime rib, shrimps
          and other goodies.

          But I also love fruits, veggies, nuts, and dairy.

          And I could live on avocados if I had to.

          I remember when I was pregnant I ate so much avocado/guacamole it's a wonder
          that my baby wasn't green!

          Those years pass by fast, don't they?

          Young people have no idea how soon they will be old, if they are so lucky.

          Anyway, no matter what our age, now is the time to eat properly, drink smoothies,
          stay well hydrated, take supplements, get rest, and do as much self-care as possible.

          If you have not been doing any of these things, start now, it's not too late.

          And lay off things that are not good.

          It is so important to take proper care of oneself, so that whenever we do get old,
          we have our good health for as long as we can.
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          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

            I am sixty.


            Young people have no idea how soon they will be old, if they are so lucky.

            Anyway, no matter what our age, now is the time to eat properly, drink smoothies,
            stay well hydrated, take supplements, get rest, and do as much self-care as possible.

            If you have not been doing any of these things, start now, it's not too late.

            And lay off things that are not good.

            It is so important to take proper care of oneself, so that whenever we do get old,
            we have our good health for as long as we can.
            I take whole food supplements I have been taken moringa, turmeric, and a vitamin d supplement for almost a year. If I don't the aches and pains come back pretty quick.

            You either learn to eat better and take supplements. Or take medications every day that are far more expensive.

            As for getting old we are the first few generations that have to deal with that issue in masse around the world.
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            • Profile picture of the author Monetize
              Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

              I take whole food supplements I have been taken moringa, turmeric, and a vitamin d supplement for almost a year. If I don't the aches and pains come back pretty quick.

              I am going to order some moringa tea.
              Everybody is raving about it on Amazon.
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              • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

                I am going to order some moringa tea.
                Everybody is raving about it on Amazon.
                I have yet to try the tea I have only gone with the tablets I'd go with powder . But the tea seems fine but does it get all the nutrients in that the powder and tablets do.

                But the miracle of miring is how easy it is to grow and the number of ways it can be added to the diet for its nutrient load

                I'm lazy and it become real easy to cook vegetables in my digital pressure cooker and have them taste good. And throw in seasonings and the flaxseed and others things into the vegetables when I eat them.

                I'm determined the make healthy eating for myself easier cheaper and even tastier than than unhealthy eating
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                • Profile picture of the author Monetize
                  Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

                  I'm determined the make healthy eating for myself easier cheaper and even tastier than unhealthy eating
                  This can be done especially if you cut back on meats and eat more
                  vegetables, fruits, nuts, and grains. And also if you are able to grow
                  some of your own veggies you can save some money plus have
                  more quality control.

                  I will order the tea this week and let you know after I try it.
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          • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
            Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

            I am sixty.

            I can't say that I was ever a health nut. I have gone vegetarian every once in
            awhile but it never lasted long because I love steaks, prime rib, shrimps
            and other goodies.

            But I also love fruits, veggies, nuts, and dairy.

            And I could live on avocados if I had to.

            I remember when I was pregnant I ate so much avocado/guacamole it's a wonder
            that my baby wasn't green!

            Those years pass by fast, don't they?

            Young people have no idea how soon they will be old, if they are so lucky.

            Anyway, no matter what our age, now is the time to eat properly, drink smoothies,
            stay well hydrated, take supplements, get rest, and do as much self-care as possible.

            If you have not been doing any of these things, start now, it's not too late.

            And lay off things that are not good.

            It is so important to take proper care of oneself, so that whenever we do get old,
            we have our good health for as long as we can.



            It's funny, I ate whatever, whenever until about six or so years ago when I bitched in this off topic forum about my chronic knee pain and every one here said "lay off the salt", which I begrudgingly did, and voila! The pain and swelling in my knee went away.

            Not putting additional salt on my food soon gave way to not eating foods with any salt additives, which after a few months basically made me feel ten years younger.

            So I started reading and soon learned how bad sugar was and trying to find food without sugar and salt additives is really difficult if you want to eat processed food, so that got me to learning about whole and organic foods (not the store franchise), which eventually led me back to growing a veggie garden.

            I don't remember the timeline but somewhere in there, I stopped eating processed and red meat such as beef, bacon, ham, sandwich meat, etc.

            So now I eat whatever, whenever as long as it's not crap. My weight is right where it's supposed to be and I feel great and have for a few years all thanks to this business forum... lol, go figure

            Oh yeah, I forgot, for the most part, I only drink black coffee and water, I drink coffee till noon and water for the rest of the day.
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            • Profile picture of the author Monetize
              Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

              Oh yeah, I forgot, for the most part, I only drink black coffee and water, I drink coffee till noon and water for the rest of the day.

              I have found that many of these online marketers and other
              business people here and elsewhere, especially the more
              successful ones and people with money in general, most of
              them pamper themselves because they have beautiful lives,
              nice homes, families, and they want to continue enjoying all
              of that for as long as possible.

              And some of them give great advice about various topics.

              But you would have found a solution to your problem from
              somewhere, even if you went to the doctor or WebMD,
              because it was bothering you and you needed a solution.

              I read Sugar Blues thirty years ago, I know that too much
              of it is bad, but I feel like I need sugar and carbs. I don't
              consume excess sugar, but if something needs it, I use it.

              I do not add salt to my food unless it's french fries or onion
              rings and things like that, but I love to season my food with
              cumin, smoked paprika, curry powder, etc. If you use other
              seasonings, you won't really miss the salt.

              I could not live on coffee and water. I usually drink some
              bottled water each day, but I like juices, Gatorade, ice tea,
              etc., I feel that it's another way to get nutrients, so I don't
              like plain water that much. Again, I think that men and
              women are very different in what they can do without.

              To anyone who would bash me for drinking bottled water,
              if you saw the Erin Brockovich movie, the company she
              was pursuing over the Chromium-6, the cancer-causing
              chemical, remember that? Well, it's in ALL the water now
              so I don't use tap water for anything but household use.
              I don't boil any food in tap water, I only use bottled water.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    So if anyone reading this is old and skinny, you might want to look into that.
    Reminded me of a conversation with #2 son years ago....we were watching a parade of people going through the line at a vast casino 'buffet' and what we noted was this:

    An inexpensive all-you-can-eat- buffet attracts overweight people (for the huge amt of food) and older people (for the good price). We noticed many obese people - many senior citizens....then we noticed there were no obese senior citizens.

    That day made more of an impact on me than any 'they say' or medical advice. I weigh 10 lbs more than I did in high school, 15 lbs more than I did in college....and that was a LONG time ago.

    i was looking at photos from Woodstock last week on my computer.....dozens of photos of the thousands who were at that famous concert. I noticed two things in particular - hardly anyone was overweight....and the women had natural sized, non-enhanced boobs.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Reminded me of a conversation with #2 son years ago....we were watching a parade of people going through the line at a vast casino 'buffet' and what we noted was this:

      An inexpensive all-you-can-eat- buffet attracts overweight people (for the huge amt of food) and older people (for the good price). We noticed many obese people - many senior citizens....then we noticed there were no obese senior citizens.

      That day made more of an impact on me than any 'they say' or medical advice. I weigh 10 lbs more than I did in high school, 15 lbs more than I did in college....and that was a LONG time ago.

      i was looking at photos from Woodstock last week on my computer.....dozens of photos of the thousands who were at that famous concert. I noticed two things in particular - hardly anyone was overweight....and the women had natural sized, non-enhanced boobs.
      I thought about this a little bit.

      Maybe the reason old overweight people don't frequent the buffet at a casino is that they have trouble getting around...and may have health related issues that keep them from traveling as much.

      And at the concert? Imagine you are an obese person. Standing in line, walking long distances....not what an old fat person wants to do.

      That's my guess. Of course, I have no idea what fat people do...Nope!
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Reminded me of a conversation with #2 son years ago....we were watching a parade of people going through the line at a vast casino 'buffet' and what we noted was this:

      You always have such interesting stories!

      I LOVE those casino buffets because the food is excellent.
      For a buffet. And I prefer buffets in general because you're
      not waiting around for your food to be brought to your table
      for an hour and a half. Especially when you're hungry.

      I agree with Claude, all the old fat people were probably
      getting room service.
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    Woodstock was just before the government got in the business of telling people what to eat and what not to . Corrupt food science based on cherry picked data.

    I'm actually going to put most of the blame on aircondioning and over consumption of cold liquids. As much of the excess calories in the diet come from what people drink

    Are you sure all the fat old people where not just in playing bingo
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      As much of the excess calories in the diet come from what people drink

      You are so correct! I gained some weight a few years ago
      and I was wondering why because I wasn't really eating
      that much but I was drinking sodas all day long, and it
      dawned on me that I needed to lay off of those and
      drink more low calorie fluids.

      BTW, I always love your thought-provoking posts.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

        You are so correct! I gained some weight a few years ago
        and I was wondering why because I wasn't really eating
        that much but I was drinking sodas all day long, and it
        dawned on me that I needed to lay off of those and
        drink more low calorie fluids.

        BTW, I always love your thought-provoking posts.
        Thank you

        Ever read how McDonald's burgers don't decay when buried in the ground. The explanation McDonald's give is the burgers has low water content.

        Observe the dryness of the food you eat and why you have to drink so much fluid.

        And many cultures eat fermented foods or eat a good amount of soups and stews.

        Prior to science many cultures figured out how to get the most nutrients out of foods not just how to grow the most get food to stay on the shelf as long as possible. And to get people to eat as much as possible.
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  • Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

    I noticed two things in particular - hardly anyone was overweight....and the women had natural sized, non-enhanced boobs.
    Squidstock.

    Wish I'd been there on a srsly perky ticket.

    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    That's my guess. Of course, I have no idea what fat people do...Nope!
    Subtly, an' kinda cuddly, your combined abdomenhood makes the genrl air less like you gaht on the summit of Everest.

    See, cos I been readin' 'bout this, plus also the Mexico City Olympics.

    Accordin' to them wayback sherpas, "taking each breath felt as if our lungs were encased in iron. We wished to expand our ribcages, but it was as if we were bound by iron maidens."

    An' what 'bout Transversus Dominis, the Greek javelin guy who collapsed in Mexico, gaspin' half to death? Accordin' to The Athens Mercury, he said, "I always considered myself a supreme tosser until this moment, but now I'm merely spent."

    Hey, so Bulbilicious Stomachkind is sparin' these kindsa people the agony of diffyoosified Oxygen.

    It's like you bulldozin' the best of the air 'bout the planet for the common good.

    As celebrity burgah eatah Don "Carb Fiend" McShlopper said so eloquently, "my inability to resist 20 sextuple pounders a day kinda counts against my general health personally -- but it warms my heart to consider the asthmatic guys I'm keeping alive merely by sleeping for 2 days after a 200 Bun Special. Where once they might have asphyxiated, now they heroically crawl."
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    No casino buffets this weekend - Gulf Coast casinos are shutting down today in preparation for Hurricane Ida.


    Really strange timing.


    16 years ago to the DAY I worked to help close down our casino - then rushed home to pack and prepare my house for Hurricane Katrina.


    Tomorrow the highways leading away from the coast will be just as bumper to bumper as they were 16 yrs ago to the day when I spent over 13 hrs getting to Atlanta (usually a 5 1/2 hr trip).


    Just hope Ida keeps moving fast - and doesn't slow over the gulf which would strengthen it and allow it to become larger. Glad I'm not there...once was quite enough.
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    I could never eat 3 meals a day.

    But only one big meal cooked.

    And something like oatmeal and fruits for breakfast and try not to eat after 7pm.

    I am gym nut as well. So alot of protein and natural food as much as possible.

    They say you should have alot of small meals...that is quite impossible for me.

    Like eating only one chip.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I was just skimming through this thread and I found something appalling:


    blame on aircondioning
    no no no no no


    As anyone who has ever lived in the deep South will tell you - the two greatest inventions of all time are air conditioning...and Coolwhip.
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I was just skimming through this thread and I found something appalling:



      no no no no no


      As anyone who has ever lived in the deep South will tell you - the two greatest inventions of all time are air conditioning...and Coolwhip.
      Oh good someone got the joke at least I hope. Haha but the only running many people do several months out of the year is from their air conditioned car to an air conditioned building I lived in the Philippines for a few month had to go without ac after a typhoon knocked the power out for several days the relationship ended a few hours before the power came back on.

      I have lived in Las Vegas , Tucson AZ, and Florida. So I understand what you mean. But I thought deep fryers beat cool whip. Because everything you can eat gets deep fried in the south
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    Monetize

    You reminded me of why I want to travel and live outside the USA. I love coconut water straight from fresh coconuts and the coconut meat is tasty too. And good coconut oil is easy to get and food taste better cooked in it. And fresh vegetables are easily available.
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      You reminded me of why I want to travel and live outside the USA. I love coconut water straight from fresh coconuts and the coconut meat is tasty too. And good coconut oil is easy to get and food taste better cooked in it. And fresh vegetables are easily available.

      Coconuts are delicious but I would need more reasons than
      just that to justify leaving the U.S. and living somewhere else.

      Especially not right now.

      But to each their own.

      Stay safe!!!
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

        Coconuts are delicious but I would need more reasons than
        just that to justify leaving the U.S. and living somewhere else.

        Especially not right now.

        But to each their own.

        Stay safe!!!
        I have many more reasons but it's definitely a not right now thing at this point it make the money to buy a boat and travel around the Caribbean. But that is years off as I want a solar powered boat.

        So I need to get rich
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    Chris Hemsworth's trainer says intermittent fasting is 'crazy' effective for weight loss
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