True crime cases really intrigue me...

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However let me clarify and get one thing straight : I am not one of those people who have a morbid curiosity for psychopaths and serial killers. I am not in the business of glamorizing them or one of those nut cases who befriends/marries a Charles Manson or starts a pen pal correspondence with a Jeffrey Dahmer.

No, they repulse me to my core and their evilness is utterly vile and something that I cannot wrap my head around.

But what I am fascinated by is how can someone be so polar opposite in their mindset and behavior than the rest of us ( relatively) normal people ?? How does an educated, seemingly well spoken and well groomed person like Ted Bundy do what he did to young innocent women? How does Richie Ramirez savagely rape and kill an elderly and innocent wheelchair bound lady?

The more I try to figure it out the more I get perplexed about it. Maybe it is just something that we will never figure out as to what is going on in their brains.

It just makes no sense to me. It's truly like we are dealing with a different species here. Kind of like an alien or something.



Anyway, your thoughts ?
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  • Why would you think you could 'figure it out'? People think differently, process things differently - there are psychopaths and sociopaths...and what frightens us is that we can't see what is 'inside'.


    I've taken several courses in psychology and my favorites were in abnormal psychology...you might enjoy an online course like that. It doesn't really explain HOW people are that way - but the ways they are is really fascinating.
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    • Yeah I know. But the curious nature of my Mind always seek to try to rationalize everything. And there is just NO rationalizing this.

      A crazy thought entered my mind the other day when I was driving through a grocery store lane. There was an elderly woman just taking her sweet time on a Walker while I was in a hurry to get by. I said to myself what if I yelled to her, "get out of the way you old bag of bones". Just a random, senseless thought. And then I thought to myself what a shock it would be to her and how bad I would feel if I did something like that.

      Let alone push her, or hit her, or worse.

      Human behavior just escapes me sometimes.
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  • You had the thought but would never act on it....others would act on the slightest provocation.


    Yet others would never have the 'thought' at all....


    When asked about raising his four children, Stephen King (author) said "I speak quietly and firmly to my children...though at times I may be dismembering them in my mind."


    We all know people who change drastically when they drink alcohol...I've always wondered which 'person' is real - the sober one in control or the drunk acting on impulse.
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    • I used to know a man who was a kind generous thoughtful man, until he drank. Then he wanted to fight at the slightest provocation. When he was sober, he apologized profusely to me. I told him that I knew he was a good guy, but that he was someone who shouldn't ever drink, because then he would hurt people.

      People react differently to alcohol. My Dad was a drinker for a few decades. Fall down drunk. When drunk, he was quiet...not mean, not loud...just quiet. I tend to get a little louder (when I used to drink).

      I think there isn't one real person. Drinking changes us. Some of us in subtle ways, some in profound ways.

      But I firmly believe that we are not just one real person.

      My brother-in-law asked me once about why I acted differently when selling. I asked him if he was the same person around babies, at work, with his wife, with friends,

      He said "No. I act differently depending on the circumstances".
      I said "Everyone does. Which one is real? All of them. We are all of them".

      And I think drunk people are just changed a little when they drink. It's all the real them.

      Man, I love listening to the sound of my own voice!
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  • Just within the last couple of weeks a 51 year old cold case of a slain police officer was solved and led to the arrest of a 71 year old suspect.

    Details here: https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2022...2971662584734/

    Congratulations to the cold case detectives in Maryland for the great work over the last year which led to the arrest of the suspect.

    I really wonder how this guy lived with himself for 51 years. Did he ever even think about what he had done? What about the family of Special Deputy Sheriff Captain James Tappen Hall? The grief that became a daily thing for them for the rest of their life.

    I'm guessing the suspect just didn't give a damn.

    Ken
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    • Didn't give a damn or thought that he was right?

      True psychopaths will sleep like a baby, which is why we hear story's about sex slaves or people treated like dirt for decades, kept prisoner in other peoples homes.

      Although relatively normal people can act in this way then switch to normal most of the time, (an episode in MASH, tv series where a young guy kills several people, ends up in hospital and wants to write his Mother, like nothing has happened).

      And others do this they go insane and others do this they are worried, or it seems that psychotic behavior is linked to past trauma and or social economic conditioning.
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    • Always find Cold cases interesting. We had one here in NJ called Princes Doe. She was found murdered in 1982 they just solved the case this past July. Forty Years to the day. Even the FBI used her case for training.

      "One such case is that of Princess Doe of Blairstown, one of the nation's most puzzling mysteries and coldest cases. On July 15, 1982, the body of a white female was found by workers at the Cedar Ridge Cemetery on Route 94 in Blairstown, Warren County. The girl's age was estimated between 14 and 18 years, she was 5-feet 2-inches tall, and weighed about 110 pounds. She had been dead five to ten days. She had been beaten to death with a blunt instrument."

      "On June 30, 1983, Princess Doe became the first person entered into the FBI's national computerized unidentified deceased files. The case is now a textbook course taught at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Va..... "

      Here is a link to the story https://weirdnj.com/stories/princess-doe/
    • If the killer was a Sociopath, he would blame the victim or society for his crime. And he would likely eventually tell someone....usually as bragging.

      A psychopath would never tell anyone, or show any remorse. Psychopaths don't feel rapport, but they can feel regret.

      Most murders are not done by sociopaths or psychopaths. Most are momentary loses of control. And the murderer genuinely feels terrible after the fact. But feeling terrible about something you have done may not be enough to turn yourself in, or confess to a murder.

      This is just based on things I've read about psychopaths and sociopaths. Who really knows?
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  • I found some recent news interesting - drought in the west has lowered the level of reservoirs and lakes by 20 or more feet - and several bodies have been found...or skeletons perhaps.


    When I read about them being found I wondered if somewhere a killer was thinking 'oops'....
  • Hmmm, I know people whose interest in tech and digital marketing drive them to the data-focused approach. And I think that's what reasonably good crime investigations do. I also read and watch these things. But I pay attention on how to catch them.

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    However let me clarify and get one thing straight : I am not one of those people who have a morbid curiosity for psychopaths and serial killers. I am not in the business of glamorizing them or one of those nut cases who befriends/marries a Charles Manson or starts a pen pal correspondence with a Jeffrey Dahmer. No, they repulse me to my core and their evilness is utterly vile and something that I cannot wrap my head around.