It's not about the money it's about: Power of Positive Thinking & Personal Growth

lanfear63

2 years ago

Originally Posted by ZephyrIon

Could you agree?

Which would be pretty worthless if all this good stuff does not make you successful and make some money.

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Kay King

2 years ago

WHAT is 'not about the money'?

I think you should expand on this a bit - otherwise, you'll have the same responses that appear in ever thread about 'positivity' etc.

For me, work is about the money. Successful people I know both online and offline are positive people. They don't expect their 'work' to provide for their financial, emotional, psychological and social needs. Those who expect all that are usually disappointed no matter what work they do.

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discrat

2 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

For me, work is about the money. Successful people I know both online and offline are positive people. They don't expect their 'work' to provide for their financial, emotional, psychological and social needs. Those who expect all that are usually disappointed no matter what work they do.

Bingo, we have a winner.

Yeah for me, work has always been for the most part about the money. If you find most of your enrichment in life through your work ...well I feel sorry for you. I find this in my family, friends, spirituality, volunteering , church etc...etc...

Although as I noted in previous posts what I have been doing lately has been very rewarding and a money maker on top of that

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Veera Mary Dsouza 2 years ago

I believe that when we think positive automatically personal growth takes place
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- GordonJ 2 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Veera Mary Dsouza
  
  I believe that when we think positive automatically personal growth takes place
  
  Isn't ^^^ what it is all about?
  
  When anyone sez, I BELIEVE... best to look at their lives and SEE what they really believe.
  
  Doubt is the shadow of fear.
  Confidence is a reflection of success.
  
  ACTION is the revelation of faith.
  
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- Jonathan 2.0 Banned 2 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Veera Mary Dsouza
  
  I believe that when we think positive automatically personal growth takes place
  
  Yeah I think "Positive Thinking" definitely plays a part ... (For the record, when I say "Positive Thinking" I don't mean someone repeating affirmations like "I'm very wealthy, I'm very wealthy ..." And just sitting around expecting to "manifest" the money from "The Universe.") For me the term "Positive Thinking" literally means: "Thinking positively."
  
  For what it's worth ― that has been somewhat Life-changing for me.
  
  P.S.
  According to Collins English Dictionary "Positive" has been defined as: "You are hopeful and confident ― and think of the good aspects of a situation rather than the bad ones."
  
  Also on the topic of "Personal Growth", I think that takes much more than just thinking positively. Again though, I think it's often part of it ... (Especially in the beginning.)
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DWolfe

2 years ago

On another note we have a whole section devoted to the Power of Positive Thinking called the Mind Forum https://www.warriorforum.com/mind-warriors/

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Kay King

2 years ago

I deliberately put this topic in the OT, Don.....to avoid the same talking points that appear in other similar threads in the past.

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Claude Whitacre

2 years ago

Originally Posted by ZephyrIon

Could you agree?

If you said "To me, it's not about the money it's about: Power of Positive Thinking & Personal Growth".....then how could we argue?

And...you left us with two choices. It's not an either/or thing. And what it "might be about" could have nothing to do with either.

For me...and I'm assuming you are talking about marketing....it's about being great at something, and using it to make you money. And later in life, it became a feeling of obligation to teach others what I know .....in a very narrow field. I'm not a Wise Man at the top of the mountain. In fact, I could be described as the mountain itself...wide in my bottom and pointy at my top.( Sorry, I thought it was funny)_

I suppose that's a bit about personal development....but I assure you, it has nothing to do with positive thinking.

For some people, they lead a fulfilling life in a Cause. To some, it's a matter of Duty. And to many, it's a matter of leisure. What is fun is desired.

And some..., it's a hole that can't be filled with anything.

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tagiscom

2 years ago

Originally Posted by ZephyrIon

Could you agree?

No, it is all about the money!

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

If you said "To me, it's not about the money it's about: Power of Positive Thinking & Personal Growth".....then how could we argue?

And...you left us with two choices. It's not an either/or thing. And what it "might be about" could have nothing to do with either.

For me...and I'm assuming you are talking about marketing....it's about being great at something, and using it to make you money. And later in life, it became a feeling of obligation to teach others what I know .....in a very narrow field. I'm not a Wise Man at the top of the mountain. In fact, I could be described as the mountain itself...wide in my bottom and pointy at my top.( Sorry, I thought it was funny)_

I suppose that's a bit about personal development....but I assure you, it has nothing to do with positive thinking.

For some people, they lead a fulfilling life in a Cause. To some, it's a matter of Duty. And to many, it's a matter of leisure. What is fun is desired.

And some..., it's a hole that can't be filled with anything.

You are at the top of the food chain!

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Odahh

2 years ago

Originally Posted by ZephyrIon

Could you agree?

Expanding on this might help a bit.

Personal growth doesn't need money or positive thinking in the equation.

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Jonathan 2.0

Banned 2 years ago

Originally Posted by ZephyrIon

Could you agree?

Yeah I think there's some truth to that ZephyrIon. : )

Although I don't see anything wrong with a Person just doing something just for the money ― "Financial Freedom" is great ― I think for more Personal Fulfilment first and foremost it should also be something they love/enjoy and/or find satisfying ...

After many years reading and studying Personal Development books, the best definition of "Success" I have found is this from Earl Nightingale: "The progressive realization of a worthy ideal." And ― I think it can be almost anything ... (Like deciding to become "A World-Class Mom" and/or Christian) ... With my Personal Development Website, if I already had the money, I would honestly do it all for free. : )

Anyway, I won't go into more detail because I'm sure I've mentioned that "definition" before, and I don't want to repeat myself. (Sorry if I have.)

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P.S.
Here's a couple of examples of "A worthy ideal" (From Jack Canfield's book "The Success Principles") that I haven't mentioned before:

1. "To empower and inspire People to achieve their Destiny." [Robert Allen]
2. "To leave the World a better place than I found it ― for People and for horses too." [Montey Roberts]
3. "To educate and inspire People to live their highest Self based in courage, purpose and joy, verses fear, need, and obligation." [T. Harv Eker]

HTH
[Mod: I hope it's OK to post this, because I believe it has value and adds "balance" and "variety" to the discussion.]

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max5ty

2 years ago

I agree.

I think the people that really make it in life are looking to conquer things that most won't ever conquer.

Someone has an idea...one person gets hung up on a million reasons why it won't work...the other just does it.

It's not about the money...it's about the accomplishment and achieving something.

There's a reason why some are wealthy and some aren't...even though everyone is given the same opportunities.

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Odahh

2 years ago

Originally Posted by max5ty

I agree.

I think the people that really make it in life are looking to conquer things that most won't ever conquer.

Someone has an idea...one person gets hung up on a million reasons why it won't work...the other just does it.

It's not about the money...it's about the accomplishment and achieving something.

There's a reason why some are wealthy and some aren't...even though everyone is given the same opportunities.

People have different levels of ambition even with the same starting level of opportunities and skills or ability to develop skills.

The more valuable the skills and the more willing someone is to use those skills to enrich others. The higher the probability they will build wealth over 10 20 or 30 years.

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Princess Balestra

2 years ago

I dreamt once I personally grew sum squidos.

Desirable excess, hangin' right offa my chest, yeah ima swing these around evry time I in the mall.

But then I kinda half woke up.

An' I gaht IRL Perky Princess seekin' only to spring from her slumbah ...

kinda undooly restrained by Somniflooent Princess, suffocatin' near to death bcs fat frickin' strawbs jammed in her nostrils an' I crushed sum random cat to death with muh flesh.

Concloosion?

Yeah, so that growth thing nevah worked out this time ...

but mebbe next dream I gaht 4 boobies.

Yeah, that is it.

Actschlly, make that FIVE boobies.

2 regulah.

2 accessory.

+ wan growin' direct outta my fayuss.

See?

I even added in a + to my reasonin' here!

Positive AF!

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tagiscom

2 years ago

For some it is about power and control nothing else.

Good always overcomes bad.

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Claude Whitacre

2 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

For some it is about power and control nothing else.

Good always overcomes bad.

Always. There are no exceptions. Especially if the winner is assumed to be Good, and the loser is declared Bad.

That's the secret to making the statement true.

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tagiscom

2 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Always. There are no exceptions. Especially if the winner is assumed to be Good, and the loser is declared Bad.

That's the secret to making the statement true.

It depends the power goes to some peoples heads and they do things they shouldn't do, but since they answer to no one they commit worse acts and then get away with that.

I guess it all boils down to give one person a billion and will they be a decent person in 10 years time or an arse...?

Power and flawed thinking can destroy businesses, people and countries.

I know that this gets back to the "kill Hitler when he was a baby" dilemma, since killing an innocent baby may make you just as bad.

Musk is probably the best example or buys Twitter for the betterment of mankind, but catch him at his favorite Mexican restaurant he is a very nice human being.

But a human being with considerable power.

Others with power abuse it and treat their staff as punching bags.

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discrat

2 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Always. There are no exceptions. Especially if the winner is assumed to be Good, and the loser is declared Bad.

That's the secret to making the statement true.

Respectfully , I would have to disagree in some respects with you , Claude. I can think of numerous psychopaths of history in the financial and capitalistic realm who stayed on top til the very end. And went to their graves with much success as they trampled on many poor souls to get there

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Odahh

2 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Respectfully , I would have to disagree in some respects with you , Claude. I can think of numerous psychopaths of history in the financial and capitalistic realm who stayed on top til the very end. And went to their graves with much success as they trampled on many poor souls to get there

Yeah but if it nothing that gets them pull into federal court and charged with crimes. They are still good people. Who have channeled their conditions into something that society they are in rewards.

You could probably find far more people in the personal development space taking advantage of desperation in people and feeding them false expectations and positive thinking that ends up leaving people far worse off. But they usually get found out and end up with large fines . Bankruptcy or prison time

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Frank Donovan

2 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Respectfully , I would have to disagree in some respects with you , Claude. I can think of numerous psychopaths of history in the financial and capitalistic realm who stayed on top til the very end. And went to their graves with much success as they trampled on many poor souls to get there

Robert, read Claude's post again - and the post it was in response to - and imagine him saying it with a straight face.

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Dan Riffle 2 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

Robert, read Claude's post again - and the post it was in response to - and imagine him saying it with a straight face.

I was going to point this out myself, but I wanted to see Claude's response stringing Robert along.
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- Frank Donovan 2 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Dan Riffle
  
  I was going to point this out myself, but I wanted to see Claude's response stringing Robert along.
  
  Of course, it's possible that Robert's been stringing Claude along...and we've all been suckered!
  
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  discrat 2 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Frank Donovan
  
  Of course, it's possible that Robert's been stringing Claude along...and we've all been suckered!
  
  You give me too much credit, Frank. I don't have that much going on 'upstairs'. At least not anymore
  
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Claude Whitacre

2 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Respectfully , I would have to disagree in some respects with you , Claude. I can think of numerous psychopaths of history in the financial and capitalistic realm who stayed on top til the very end. And went to their graves with much success as they trampled on many poor souls to get there

My Friend;

I just now read your post, and the ones after it.

Yup, I was joking.
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About "Good winning over evil"........"Good" is always what someone wants.....and "Evil" is what someone doesn't want. So it always just comes down to who is saying it, and what is the side they are on.

Everyone thinks they are the hero or victim of their own story. Nobody sees themselves as the bad guy.

And I agree with your statement.

Originally Posted by discrat

You give me too much credit, Frank. I don't have that much going on 'upstairs'. At least not anymore

Don't sell yourself short.

I've now read maybe thousands of your posts. And at no time did I ever think "This man is stupid".

And there have been plenty of times here that I didn't know if someone was joking or not.

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discrat

2 years ago

Owned...!!!

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lanfear63

2 years ago

"I've now read maybe thousands of your posts. And at no time did I ever think "This man is stupid"

I've read thousands of yours...Stupid of me.

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