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What I discovered...

by max5ty
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I had posted before about dry fasting.

These are the conclusions I've come to.

There is no better way to lose fat than dry fasting.

I just completed a 7 day dry fast.

Let me explain why I think this is the ultimate way and not sound like a total wack job:

First, let me say...don't attempt this if you're in an environment where it's extremely humid and you sweat like crazy from doing nothing. Note: it has been done, but I wouldn't recommend it. I also would recommend if you have medical conditions and to consult with your doctor before doing so.

Your fat cells are mostly water. When your body is looking for water it takes water from the fat cells and completely destroys them...unlike water fasting where it just shrinks them. When it destroys the fat cells it also keeps your body from having saggy skin.

Dry fasting (in my opinion and from studies) will clear up a lot of the issues you have in your body.

Dry fasting does not cause the electrolytes in your body to deplete like water fasting does.

During dry fasting, you will lose approx 2 pounds of fat each day. The scales will show a bigger drop (up to 5 pounds)...but some of that will be regained once you start eating and drinking.

So, that's what I've discovered.

I think it's one of the biggest secrets of dieting I've found. The biggest thing is it's free.

You may disagree and I'd like to hear your arguments.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    That's risky. Dry fasts are recommended for 16-24 hrs with an absolute maximum of 3 days. Risk of dehydration - kidney damage, urinary tract damage.


    4 days without water can result in death. Why would you risk your body's basic functions to lose a few pounds fast? Intermittent fasting works and doctors say it's not only safe but good for you. Refusing fluids is not a great idea.
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    • Profile picture of the author max5ty
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      That's risky. Dry fasts are recommended for 16-24 hrs with an absolute maximum of 3 days. Risk of dehydration - kidney damage, urinary tract damage.


      4 days without water can result in death. Why would you risk your body's basic functions to lose a few pounds fast? Intermittent fasting works and doctors say it's not only safe but good for you. Refusing fluids is not a great idea.
      The older I get, the more I realize the diet industry is controlled by myths.

      You won't die after 3 days with no water. I and thousands have proven it.

      It won't damage your organs.

      Yes, it's not for everyone...but I believe it is the secret to losing weight.
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

        The older I get, the more I realize the diet industry is controlled by myths.

        You won't die after 3 days with no water. I and thousands have proven it.

        It won't damage your organs.

        Yes, it's not for everyone...but I believe it is the secret to losing weight.
        I totally agree!! As Claude and others have pointed out in the past, the 4 day without water = death mantra is about as real as the Easter bunny.

        It's laughable that people still believe that nonsense
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        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
          Originally Posted by discrat View Post

          I totally agree!! As Claude and others have pointed out in the past, the 4 day without water = death mantra is about as real as the Easter bunny.

          It's laughable that people still believe that nonsense
          Years ago I saw a documentary about surviving in a desert where people were collecting some water from under the sand. It was said that 2 fluid ounces per day was enough to keep you going. Not a great deal to drink for alleviating any proposed dry diet worries.

          Also, their is water in foods, like vegetables and fruit, so you are taking some in whatever you eat for the most part.
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          • Profile picture of the author discrat
            Max , you are an intense son of a gun. Don't know how you do it but I really admire your work ethic and balls to the wall mentality
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            • Profile picture of the author max5ty
              Originally Posted by discrat View Post

              Max , you are an intense son of a gun. Don't know how you do it but I really admire your work ethic and balls to the wall mentality
              One subject that has always interested me is fitness.

              From around 10 when I got my first weight set, and set it up in the garage...up until about 40, I would pump iron every other day.

              Even did dianabol for a few years. It's a steroid that pumps you up like nothing else. I finally came to my senses and stopped that since it's undoubtedly not healthy, and, once you quit taking it you lose a lot of your size. I decided to just go for the men's health type physique.

              My ex-mother-in-law, who I'm still good friends with, has been on a diet ever since I've known her. Her idea of a diet is to buy the latest diet pill or stock up on the latest diet food or drink. I mean WTF are Keto Gummies? 100 bucks a month for what?

              99.99% of all the diet pills etc. are nonsense. For a lot of people, just the idea of paying for them makes them feel like they're accomplishing something.

              You can lose weight for free. Eat healthy and get moving...even if it's walking around the block every day.

              As far as 'balls to the wall mentality', I've been told more than once I can sometimes be exhausting to be around

              Someone can see an empty storefront and talk about putting a dog grooming business in it. Before they're done talking I'll be on the phone calling the number and finding out how much the place is and when can I meet to look at it.

              I do believe in planning...but speed also comes with years of experience.

              It's like I posted about some years ago where the speaker at a conference told everyone to raise their hand as high as they could.

              Everyone raised their hands. Then he said raise them higher. Everyone raised them higher.

              Then he said raise them even higher. Everyone started stretching higher.

              Then he said stand up and raise them higher. Everyone stood up and raised them as high as they could.

              Then he said to stand on your tippy toes and raise them as high as you can.

              The point is, that everyone should be at the last step with everything they do.

              The first time he said raise them as high as you can, people stayed seated and raised them.

              You should try and become the person that the first time around you are on your tippy toes and trying to touch the ceiling.

              Anyway, I've yammered on enough today.

              Thanks for all the comments. They are all interesting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    It's about 8 months from when you posted about this. Where you back to where you were before doing this the first time.

    How much was your body fat percent and how is your overall fitness as far as cardio and strength.

    I'm not that old so I'm far more impressed with how long someone can maintain the fat loss verse how fast they can lose it.

    How much of the weight you Lost the first time around came back before you did the fast this time
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    • Profile picture of the author max5ty
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      It's about 8 months from when you posted about this. Where you back to where you were before doing this the first time.

      How much was your body fat percent and how is your overall fitness as far as cardio and strength.

      I'm not that old so I'm far more impressed with how long someone can maintain the fat loss verse how fast they can lose it.

      How much of the weight you Lost the first time around came back before you did the fast this time
      Not exactly sure what my bodyfat is today. I know most people have 6 pack abs and I have 12 pack.

      Then again, I've been a runner for years so that may have something to do with it.

      This was an experiment to see if it actually helped.

      It does.

      Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

      Well I mentioned this before. When I had congestive heart failure and had to have a stent put in, in the weeks before that my weight ballooned and I gained 24 pounds due to water retention. I spent 5 days in hospital, average liquid intake, no drip fitted which was a relief. I passed it all in 5 days after taking Lasix and lost the 24 pounds and had the op.

      Probably does not relate to this directly but one things for sure, the most effective weight loss program I have ever done, lol. But, it indicates that some weight could be gained by water retention if your body does not process it properly. No Idea if that's a thing that doc's check for when advising obese patients.
      Fat cells are almost 90% water if not more.

      When your body if deprived of water it starts to create what's called molecular water.

      That's water that is drawn from your cells.

      There is a ton of research on this topic if anyone is interested in looking into it.

      It's really not that hokey or weird.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

        Not exactly sure what my bodyfat is today. I know most people have 6 pack abs and I have 12 pack.

        Then again, I've been a runner for years so that may have something to do with it.

        This was an experiment to see if it actually helped.

        It does.



        Fat cells are almost 90% water if not more.

        When your body if deprived of water it starts to create what's called molecular water.

        That's water that is drawn from your cells.

        There is a ton of research on this topic if anyone is interested in looking into it.

        It's really not that hokey or weird.
        If you are already in great physical condition and you don't know how much body fat you have. Are you sure losing body fat has any real benefits for you. . Especially where you said you lost 20 pounds the last time you did this around October and at least 14 this time.

        In arguing against the diet industry and western medicine in some ways you are still arguing from the cam of fat loss always good.

        Anyway I was also under the impression that all the living healthy cells in the human body had roughly the same amount of water
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        • Profile picture of the author max5ty
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post


          In arguing against the diet industry and western medicine
          The American Heart Association came out with a report a few days ago that said they predict the obesity rate will go from 41% to 60% in the next 30 years.

          Isn't that odd with more diets, pills and supplements now sold than ever before? A multi-billion dollar-a-year industry. The report was covered by most major news networks if you care to look it up. They also predicted some other troubling statistics based on obesity and its predicted rise.

          The diet industry is all about the money they make and the fibs they feed people.
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

            The American Heart Association came out with a report a few days ago that said they predict the obesity rate will go from 41% to 60% in the next 30 years.

            Isn't that odd with more diets, pills and supplements now sold than ever before? A multi-billion dollar-a-year industry. The report was covered by most major news networks if you care to look it up. They also predicted some other troubling statistics based on obesity and its predicted rise.

            The diet industry is all about the money they make and the fibs they feed people.
            Probably something they took.

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  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    Well I mentioned this before. When I had congestive heart failure and had to have a stent put in, in the weeks before that my weight ballooned and I gained 24 pounds due to water retention. I spent 5 days in hospital, average liquid intake, no drip fitted which was a relief. I passed it all in 5 days after taking Lasix and lost the 24 pounds and had the op.

    Probably does not relate to this directly but one things for sure, the most effective weight loss program I have ever done, lol. But, it indicates that some weight could be gained by water retention if your body does not process it properly. No Idea if that's a thing that doc's check for when advising obese patients.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamell
    Glad you achieved your goal .I am also impressed with the fact that you have warned people not to dry fast under certain circumstances.

    Whilst I have an athletic build I sometimes go with out breakfast naturally without it being planned which of course depends on how my Morning starts .
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    That really has nothing to do with what I was saying.

    Now I don't care about the diet industry. That is not causing the obesity crisis around the world.

    The food inflation and the rapid destruction of the fast food industry may slow down the obesity crisis in the USA.

    But I'm more under the believe that it is what people eat and drink that gets them fat
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    • Profile picture of the author max5ty
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post


      The food inflation and the rapid destruction of the fast food industry may slow down the obesity crisis in the USA.
      The fast food industry has a small part in the obesity crisis...and I'm assuming you mean fast food as in combo meals at the burger place etc.

      One thing I've mentioned before is that I'm a sucker for reading everything and watching every documentary put out...some good, some nonsense on fitness and nutrition subjects.

      I could go into paragraphs and paragraphs talking about why there is an obesity crisis, and it would drone on forever...

      and could go on and on about why nutrition labels on most of the food in grocery stores are misleading to the average shopper...

      but I'll keep it simple.

      Processed carbs are a huge culprit of obesity. I guess technically you could call it fast food.

      Walk into Walmart and on the right you can get all the fresh vegetables, and fresh fruit you want. You can then go over to the meat section and get almost any type of fish, chicken, or other healthy meats you want.

      You can pay for that, go home, and eat healthy.

      But, most people don't shop that way.

      There are also rows and rows of processed things you can buy. Sodas. Breakfast cereals that are mostly loaded with sugar...

      the list goes on, but I'll stop there because I think you get the general drift.

      Of course, the diet industry doesn't make people fat. It keeps them fat.

      As I said in a previous post, it doesn't cost money to lose weight.

      Before everyone thinks I'm probably the killjoy of the party, I'll admit that I too sometimes occasionally eat unhealthy. I'll eat fast food and drink soda or maybe sometimes a few beers...

      but it's not my normal everyday routine.

      Eat healthy and get moving is the answer.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
    diets don't work



    whatever it is that made u fat is still there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Okay we are in the same book and on the same page. The diet industry confuses people about what is and is not healthy.

    Then the medical industry create villian in food the are almost never the hundreds of additives allowed in processed food.

    You know fats carb colesteral salt .

    Any pattern of eating that makes it easier to stay around maintenance calories can be healthy. If someone is eating a large excess of calories even if the food is healthy they will gain weight over time.but certain kinds of medicine make weight gain much easier.

    Then we can factor in average age which has increased in the USA and around the world. It was below 30 in 1980 now it is close to 40.

    There is a long list of reasons for the increase in obesity. In the USA and around the world.there is no real simple answer.
    I'm not a pro diet person not much into pills and powders.

    Change the diet for a few weeks take a few pounds of maintain for a few months then do it again.

    Not a fan of taking a huge amount off then spending months watch it go back on.

    Plus it's more about having to tighten my belt a little more every few months.

    Oh yeah my other view is if you eat real food you're body uses a high percent of the calories digesting and breaking down the food.while highly processed food And fast food tends to dissolve in the body and have the carbs and fats easily available but also causes hunger sooner
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