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I love dogs. Unfortunately, I've lost three of my four the last year. I'm one of those men that grieve when their fur babies leave, and especially with the first one that left me, it hurt a long time. I still think about her more than a year later.

Since the Warrior Forum is the help desk of the internet , I've got a question. The last dog is about 7 years old. She was an inside dog for the first two years and an outside dog afterwards because of how the house was after we moved. She sheds very heavily. You pet her and you'll get a handful of hair every time.

We've recently moved again and we live on the ocean and the other side is a highway so there isn't really a safe place for her to be outside right now. So, she's an indoors dog again. I just got to thinking i haven't seen any hair anywhere in the house whereas normally, there would be piles of it outside at the old places.

Does anyone have any idea why it *seems* she's quit shedding? When I've petted her the last couple of days since coming inside I've not seen any excess hair.

Could it be the stress of being outside or she feels safer together with the family? Her diet hasn't changed. If not emotional, what? By the way, within the last week when she was still outside at the old place, she was shedding as normal. So, this is a sudden change it seems.

Ideas?

Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

    I love dogs. Unfortunately, I've lost three of my four the last year. I'm one of those men that grieve when their fur babies leave, and especially with the first one that left me, it hurt a long time. I still think about her more than a year later.

    Since the Warrior Forum is the help desk of the internet , I've got a question. The last dog is about 7 years old. She was an inside dog for the first two years and an outside dog afterwards because of how the house was after we moved. She sheds very heavily. You pet her and you'll get a handful of hair every time.

    We've recently moved again and we live on the ocean and the other side is a highway so there isn't really a safe place for her to be outside right now. So, she's an indoors dog again. I just got to thinking i haven't seen any hair anywhere in the house whereas normally, there would be piles of it outside at the old places.

    Does anyone have any idea why it *seems* she's quit shedding? When I've petted her the last couple of days since coming inside I've not seen any excess hair.

    Could it be the stress of being outside or she feels safer together with the family? Her diet hasn't changed. If not emotional, what? By the way, within the last week when she was still outside at the old place, she was shedding as normal. So, this is a sudden change it seems.

    Ideas?

    Mark
    I think you will identify the reason from this article which gives 6 reasons as to why....

    https://petfluence.co/blog/post/dog-...opped-shedding
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Thank you Mark. I searched and couldn't find anything that seemed to fit. This page doesn't either.

    One thing I read is that sometimes it comes and goes, so I'm sure it will come back eventually. In the meantime, I'll enjoy less hair everywhere. I was worried it might be a sign of something bad. We'll see.

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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      Thank you Mark. I searched and couldn't find anything that seemed to fit. This page doesn't either.

      One thing I read is that sometimes it comes and goes, so I'm sure it will come back eventually. In the meantime, I'll enjoy less hair everywhere. I was worried it might be a sign of something bad. We'll see.

      Mark
      One factor that does stick out. You moved!!. And you moved to a totally different environment, by the sea. Their must be some truth in shedding being seasonal, that must be factual at least to an extent.

      But you moved to a place where there is always moisture and salt in the air, not to mention a prevailing wind so it will always be cooler. And if that's the case then the dog somehow wants to retain a thicker coat? I am speculating though but may be some truth in this. Dog adapts to change in environment?
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    Mark, do you have AC indoors? If the temperature is cooler than outside, that might be a factor. Also she could be reacting to the change in natural light patterns now that she's indoors all the time. Just ideas.

    I'm sure you know that shedding frequency varies between breeds and times of year. And changes in hormones play a part - have you ruled out she could be pregnant?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Stress is a factor, too. If you have a dog accustomed to living indoors and you keep him outdoors - shedding may increase. Seasonal shedding is huge where we live because of winter weather. In warmer climates doesn't happen.

    My Gracie had surgery on both knees when she was 7 yrs old and from that time on whenever we went to the vet for anything she would start shedding in handfuls when we drove into the veterinarians parking lot. It would continue until we got back home. Other than that, she hardly shed at all.

    My son's Great Pyranees goes to the groomer regularly because of her long white double coat. Only regular combing and back combing keep the shedding under control for her. Worst shedders I've had were German Shepherds - they also have a double coat.

    I don't think twice about vacuuming daily to pick up dog fur...but if i lived with a human that made such a mess it would drive me crazy. Go figure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    It's a little bit cooler because of the ocean breeze but not much. We haven't gotten the AC situation handled right yet (long story) but inside she sleeps in the AC at night and during the day, she is by my feet and I'm always using a fan. So, overall, she's bit cooler.

    They were always shielded from outside dogs just because they were either inside or in the yard except for when we go out to play or walk. Here there are more dogs and she's having to learn how to deal with them because she doesn't have that experience with an outside dog. She would fight with her sisters sometimes but that was family with someone she knew. Also, the move, new house, learning where her spot is, getting used to having to ask to go out to pee, etc. is probably very stressful.

    If the shedding comes back, we deal with it But I hope it doesn't.

    Thanks for all the insights.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    We inherited a 7 month old husky from a friend who couldn't keep her indoors. She doesn't just shed, she molts... literally wads of fur!

    Although she now resides with the 'ex' - We noticed she shedded far less when we kept her indoors than when she was an outdoor dog.

    The fact we live in Florida and it's too damn hot to keep a husky outdoors definitely reduced the shedding as the cooler air and minimal change of seasons seemed to deduce her 'winter coat' some.

    Nonetheless, no matter how you slice it, husky's in full bloom are gorgeous fur babies... but, when they molt, OMG, you could stuff a pillow case with the amount of fur they lose.

    We, my new love and I have two 7 week old lab/bullies we acquired 10 days ago, shedding is the least of the issue... they're teething, tyrannical, and equally adorable, we're in training mode!!!

    As far as WHY a dog would shed less? - I would think less stress being indoors, climate control, and far less seperation anxiety being kept indoors.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    two 7 week old lab/bullies
    You are in for a rough year

    Over the years I've had 'mixes': lab-retriever, lab-chow, lab-pit, lab-spaniel. The 'lab' part makes for destructive pups with energy to spare...but then that same 'lab' dna makes for wonderful family pets when they grow up.

    When I adopted my current rescue, Ginny, I had her DNA done because I could not figure out what her breed was....we talk about 'heinz 57' dogs....I've gone one. This is her dna. Percentages aside - she is 100% sweetie and has become my Velcro dog.

    Hound
    16% Treeing Walker Coonhound
    15% Bluetick Coonhound
    5% Beagle
    2% American Foxhound
    2% Segugio Italiano
    2% Catahoula Leopard Dog

    Terrier
    11% Chihuahua
    4% Parson Russell Terrier
    4% Dachshund
    4% Toy Fox Terrier
    4% Russell Terrier
    2% Wire Fox Terrier
    2% Rat Terrier

    Sporting
    10% Labrador Retriever
    3% English Springer Spaniel

    Herding
    5% German Shepherd Dog
    2% Collie
    2% Lacy Dog

    Asian and Oceanian
    3% Chow Chow

    Guard
    2% Doberman Pinscher
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    • Profile picture of the author max5ty
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      You are in for a rough year

      Over the years I've had 'mixes': lab-retriever, lab-chow, lab-pit, lab-spaniel. The 'lab' part makes for destructive pups with energy to spare...but then that same 'lab' dna makes for wonderful family pets when they grow up.

      When I adopted my current rescue, Ginny, I had her DNA done because I could not figure out what her breed was....we talk about 'heinz 57' dogs....I've gone one. This is her dna. Percentages aside - she is 100% sweetie and has become my Velcro dog.

      Hound
      16% Treeing Walker Coonhound
      15% Bluetick Coonhound
      5% Beagle
      2% American Foxhound
      2% Segugio Italiano
      2% Catahoula Leopard Dog

      Terrier
      11% Chihuahua
      4% Parson Russell Terrier
      4% Dachshund
      4% Toy Fox Terrier
      4% Russell Terrier
      2% Wire Fox Terrier
      2% Rat Terrier

      Sporting
      10% Labrador Retriever
      3% English Springer Spaniel

      Herding
      5% German Shepherd Dog
      2% Collie
      2% Lacy Dog

      Asian and Oceanian
      3% Chow Chow

      Guard
      2% Doberman Pinscher
      All interesting.

      I'm wondering, and I'm not trying to be mean or anything...

      but who knows if any of this stuff is true?

      I mean this poor dog has just about a percentage of every breed there is in it.

      Has anyone really verified this stuff is for real?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I've had my DNA done - in fact, quite a few cousins, etc did the same as we had a family 'mystery' that my (genetics expert/biology professor) cousin uncovered by accident.


    I was not much of a believer before then but those tests in conjunction with Ancestry.com and a lot of research told a story that explained unexpected DNA results. What we learned was a long buried family story that i doubt anyone back in that time expected to be told. I don't have the patience to do all that sifting, etc - but my cousin actually LIVES for that stuff (and can put you to sleep talking about it sometimes).



    As for my little dog - her dna is hilarious to me. She is a mutt's mutt.
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    • Profile picture of the author max5ty
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I've had my DNA done - in fact, quite a few cousins, etc did the same as we had a family 'mystery' that my (genetics expert/biology professor) cousin uncovered by accident.


      I was not much of a believer before then but those tests in conjunction with Ancestry.com and a lot of research told a story that explained unexpected DNA results. What we learned was a long buried family story that i doubt anyone back in that time expected to be told. I don't have the patience to do all that sifting, etc - but my cousin actually LIVES for that stuff (and can put you to sleep talking about it sometimes).



      As for my little dog - her dna is hilarious to me. She is a mutt's mutt.
      Was just curious because it said she's like 10% lab...

      and 11% chihuahua.

      Seemed like a big difference
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    • Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I've had my DNA done ...
      Been there, babe.

      When I was 12yo I harbored a belief I was a STREET CHILD who'd been KIDNAPPED bcs my parents were BARREN.

      So I hired a guy to stick a needle in my ass an' make with the science.

      "Sorry, Princess," he said, "but you are, in fact, a Princess. That will be $15,000 please."

      "K," I replied. "So I may be actscwl royalty, but I also ain't stoopid."

      An' I gaht his head put on a stick sumplace.

      Thing is tho -- ain't most pets such cutesy dopes?
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    She looks like a small keg - on stumps.
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    but I also ain't stoopid

    Welllll, if you let him stick a needle in your derriere to check your dna...not sure about that.


    ain't most pets such cutesy dopes

    yup.
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    • Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Welllll, if you let him stick a needle in your derriere to check your dna...not sure about that.
      yup.
      Withya there, poppet.

      Thing is 'bout metaphor, hyperbole an' analhuggous zamples, is how you cain't never know truth from fictschwaahn.

      So when the guy said, "it's only a little prick," I was like "K, so why dontchya jab it in wanna muh titties bcs they so modest you don't gotta care too much 'bout compareurtive dimensions?"

      I know.

      So hilarious, all manifestations of silence inhabited the next 1-2 seckinds like armiggedone had happened an' we were way too off beam to notice.

      I believe a movie is planned now, but I gotta talk it ovah with sum people ain't gaht a cloo.

      "Will this be a Heroine story, a fact-2-spacked documentary, or some nightmare half-naked karaoke presentation involving so many fly-from-the hip sequins the audience will figure either they are in a martial arts movie, or have fallen victim to BRAIN CRABS?"

      "Tbh, I can only handle queries with fewah than 10 woids. Get back to Moi when I showahed an' also sailed down the Nile."

      This is naht my best evah strategy for directin' the narrative back in a feline directschwaahn, but there you go.

      I shall purr from evry slick depression or rounded mound, howevah I am found.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Since it's been years since our dogs have been inside dogs, I kind of forgot how they follow you around.

    Lord, I can't go to the throne, go to bed, go anywhere, without my girl following me and if I pause even for a second she plops down right at my feet.

    This morning, I took her on the long tour to the bathroom just for fun. Then, when I finally went in the bathroom, she was looking at me like, "daddy, are you this stupid? We could've been here 3 minutes ago if you hadn't insisted on taking a tour of the kitchen and living room."

    Because of her ability to figure out how to get out of a fence before, her nickname is Professor. Some days I think she may be smarter than me. LOL

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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      Since it's been years since our dogs have been inside dogs, I kind of forgot how they follow you around.

      Lord, I can't go to the throne, go to bed, go anywhere, without my girl following me and if I pause even for a second she plops down right at my feet.

      This morning, I took her on the long tour to the bathroom just for fun. Then, when I finally went in the bathroom, she was looking at me like, "daddy, are you this stupid? We could've been here 3 minutes ago if you hadn't insisted on taking a tour of the kitchen and living room."

      Because of her ability to figure out how to get out of a fence before, her nickname is Professor. Some days I think she may be smarter than me. LOL

      Mark
      A professor! Does she wear a Lab coat?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        A professor! Does she wear a Lab coat?
        That would be fitting. LOL

        Does anyone else talk to their pets? Not just "come" or "stay" type commands but talk to them.

        Mark
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        • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
          Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

          Does anyone else talk to their pets?
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          Absolutely. However, Piper (My cockatiel) doesn't listen to me. Just like a typical human ;>)

          He knows when I make my 2nd cup of coffee. He starts calling when I'm getting milk out of the refrigerator. To start making his morning treats.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    For years I had a dog named DooDah who would CLIMB the fence - tour the neighborhood and then climb back into the back yard and come in the dog door.


    Going through photos last week I came across Doodah's old tag - had his name, my phone number and it said "I climb fences". Neighbors would call when he showed up and I'd drive over to get him. He would run to the car and get in like 'where've you been?'. What a character.


    Know what you mean by following you everywhere. And yes, talk to my dog and my cat....it's a good excuses when someone asks 'are you talking to yourself'.
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      For years I had a dog named DooDah who would CLIMB the fence - tour the neighborhood and then climb back into the back yard and come in the dog door.


      Going through photos last week I came across Doodah's old tag - had his name, my phone number and it said "I climb fences". Neighbors would call when he showed up and I'd drive over to get him. He would run to the car and get in like 'where've you been?'. What a character.


      Know what you mean by following you everywhere. And yes, talk to my dog and my cat....it's a good excuses when someone asks 'are you talking to yourself'.
      Wow, you must have got a little tongue tied when taking him outside to do his ablutions. Time for a DooDoo DoohDah
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      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      For years I had a dog named DooDah who would CLIMB the fence - tour the neighborhood and then climb back into the back yard and come in the dog door.

      Going through photos last week I came across Doodah's old tag - had his name, my phone number and it said "I climb fences". Neighbors would call when he showed up and I'd drive over to get him. He would run to the car and get in like 'where've you been?'. What a character.

      Know what you mean by following you everywhere. And yes, talk to my dog and my cat....it's a good excuses when someone asks 'are you talking to yourself'.
      I also had a dog that could get through fences next door, but he preferred smashing his way through and chewing through when he was a pup.

      Can't remember his name so "PITA" will do, thankfully after ten years there is no trace of any fence wrecker to be found and there is peace in the neighbourhood, (apart from another stupid mut that barks all hours of the morning with other ones joining in).

      Since all of my neighbours are gutless wonders, one or two of the right words usually does the trick.

      Suffice to say l don't have any love affairs with dogs, although cats can do warkabouts and end up in trouble, but at least they are quiet.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I guess our property is the 'chosen one' today. There are 32 Canada Geese in the front yard and on the driveway.


    They'll pick around in the newly mowed yard for a while then head to the pond down the road. Love to watch them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
      Since we've lived in a coastal region that last few years, we would get seagulls at our old house. They would come down and eat dog food out of the dog's dishes. And the dogs, staunch protectors of our castle they are, would just sit there and let them. They'd be lying around just watching the birds and wouldn't even growl.

      I've wondered what went on maybe when I wasn't home. Did the seagulls come down and 'splain the situation to the dogs in a way that they decided to keep their mouth shut? I mean these dogs would bark at anything else but the birds. It's cray cray!

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      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I guess our property is the 'chosen one' today. There are 32 Canada Geese in the front yard and on the driveway.


      They'll pick around in the newly mowed yard for a while then head to the pond down the road. Love to watch them.
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  • Profile picture of the author max5ty
    Speaking of dogs...

    I read an email a couple of days ago that was talking about a crappy dog business.

    There's a business that goes around and cleans up dog crap at people's houses.

    Sounds like a crazy idea...but they're estimating they'll make 2 million dollars this year.

    So, of all the ways to make money, I guess cleaning up after dogs is a good way.

    The name of the company is Swoop Scoop. I believe they're in Washington state.
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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    There's another company in the same business. I think it's a national chain - https://www.doodycalls.com/ They may have been on an episode of the Shark Tank.

    The pet sitting or dog walking service is also becoming very popular.
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    • Profile picture of the author max5ty
      Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

      There's another company in the same business. I think it's a national chain - https://www.doodycalls.com/ They may have been on an episode of the Shark Tank.

      The pet sitting or dog walking service is also becoming very popular.
      Interesting.

      I don't think I've ever heard of this as a service before.

      I guess it makes sense in a way though.

      Learn something new everyday I guess.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Pet sitting is something we've needed. Not that we're out on world travels or anything, but maybe just going away for a couple of days for a holiday weekend.

    When the dogs were outside (with plenty of shelter) in a fenced in area, they could be okay with a day or two away. But now, that outside isn't an option, we'd need a pet sitter.

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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
    Who knew you had to be trained to be doggy pooper scooper? Trained & Uniformed Technicians at least at DoodyCalls.
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    • Profile picture of the author max5ty
      Originally Posted by Ken Leatherman View Post

      Who knew you had to be trained to be doggy pooper scooper? Trained & Uniformed Technicians at least at DoodyCalls.
      Probably safety and hygiene and how to deal with mean dogs.

      In the story I read the owner said every time he runs a help wanted ad he gets at least 100 applicants.

      So, maybe the pay is pretty good?

      I'm surprised someone hasn't invented a spray that you just spray on and it dissolves it into some kind of liquid or gas.

      They've got about everything else on the market these days.
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  • Profile picture of the author olivia24
    There could be multiple factors contributing to this decrease in shedding. Being indoors and with the family might be reducing her stress levels, which could impact shedding. Or there might be a seasonal shift in shedding patterns that coincides with your move.
    Even though you mentioned no diet change, it's worth considering if there have been any unintentional dietary shifts.Generally, reduced shedding is a good thing and you shouldn't be worried about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Renegade Wingman
    It's rare but sometimes dogs stop shedding as they age, but it depends on the breed and other possible genetic factors.
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